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This is a Hunter Strike Aircraft
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/hunter/survivors/g-psstkemble.jpg
Once again our wonderous technicians at The Nadaskorian State Aerospace Industries have ripped off, er I mean aquired the plans to a classic and combat proven airframe and rebuilt it with some the best flyby wire, and avionics systems we can produce fitted as standard. Remember our Sea Vixens? they are now in front line service with over 20 nations, and our Bucceneers, Drakkens and Victor bombers are selling like hot cakes. So when we aquired the hunter specs, we thought, hey this is a great rough strip strike aircraft idea for small scale conflicts where air superiority is not really an issue, small nations and anybody who goes for the lots and lots style of strike missions.

So you wanna know more?

The Hunter is a single seat light strike aircraft capable of opperarting from rough strips. It's easy to fly and represents a cost efficent way of carrying death to your foes. It isn't fast, it has a top speed of 590mph fully ladden (supersonic in steep dives), but with its on board flare, chaff and ecm defense systems that should not prove a problem. It can fly at up to 60,000ft, but we doubt you'll want to take them that high as they are at their best ducking rader and blowing things up from 0 feet. It's combat radius of 1,200 miles is enough for most opperations, but this can be extended by adding external tanks on the external hardpoints.

OK, what's it's armament?

Every hunter carries 1x30mm Eden multi barrel cannon with 2,000 rnds of ammo and its 6 external hard ponits can carry what ever you want to hang their, sidewinders?, firestreaks?, naplam? the choice is yours (Note- we don not sell extenal stores)

So how much?

You aint gonna believe this but each aircraft cost just £7m each (and this price may fall if we sell enough). How can we do this? the wonders of a modern state controlled economy (no share holders to rake the profits and force the price up), and we intend to build lots of them (The first 300 have already entered service with our own airforce) and of course our willingness to take a small loss in order to spread these wonderfully robust aircraft world wide.

So what are you waiting for? contact us today and let us talk terms* after all you wont find an comperable aircraft at this price anywhere else.




{*Note. Nazi's, facists, imperialists and expansionist capitalists need not apply}

bumperty bump

The Free Land of the Stonies is very interested with your product.
We would like to purchase 50 of your planes.
350 millions USD have been wired on your account.
Thank you.

{*Note. Nazi's, facists, imperialists and expansionist capitalists need not apply}
Then why are you selling the aircraft of the United Kingdom which was one of the biggest empires on earth?

Colonialists need not apply? Nadaskor will become a colony!

Gulag time?

Let's showcase the real meaning of hostile takeover...

Let's showcase the real meaning of hostile takeover...
Yep.
Geforce- thats right!

FIk check TGrams as FR.

Got something against Imperialists?

{*Note. Nazi's, facists, imperialists and expansionist capitalists need not apply}
Then why are you selling the aircraft of the United Kingdom which was one of the biggest empires on earth?

Easy, Nadaskor is an anarchic version of the UK, similar history, same tech, a different trouser leg of history sort of thing.

The Free Land of the Stonies is very interested with your product.
We would like to purchase 50 of your planes.
350 millions USD have been wired on your account.
Thank you.
Planes dispatched.

Damn, what a fruity plane. Lets rough 'em up boys!

-Joseph Stalin

Let's showcase the real meaning of hostile takeover...
Yep.
Geforce- thats right!
This is the sort of stuff I mean, You wont let me play so we will nuke you. If you want our island group to be the grave yard of your armies whilst our ICBM sub renovate your cities to the extent that no one wins. then go ahead. It will be a war no one will win. If on the other hand you wish to go on your way haveing made your point and having failed to intimedate us then that will be the best solution for all of us..


Anyone trying to show us 'A Real Hostile take Over' will be shown the true meaning of a Mutually Assure Desruction Defence policey. We are not an agressive state and our entire armed forces are geared for a bitter defence of our homeland.

Damn, what a fruity plane. Lets rough 'em up boys!

-Joseph Stalin

It's in it's gfactory display colours. We will paint them any colour you wish.

Let's showcase the real meaning of hostile takeover...
Yep.
Geforce- thats right!
This is the sort of stuff I mean, You wont let me play so we will nuke you. If you want our island group to be the grave yard of your armies whilst our ICBM sub renovate your cities to the extent that no one wins. then go ahead. It will be a war no one will win. If on the other hand you wish to go on your way haveing made your point and having failed to intimedate us then that will be the best solution for all of us..


Anyone trying to show us 'A Real Hostile take Over' will be shown the true meaning of a Mutually Assure Desruction Defence policey. We are not an agressive state and our entire armed forces are geared for a bitter defence of our homeland.
And we show you the inner workings of ABM systems such as SDI and Skynet!

Let's showcase the real meaning of hostile takeover...
Yep.
Geforce- thats right!
This is the sort of stuff I mean, You wont let me play so we will nuke you. If you want our island group to be the grave yard of your armies whilst our ICBM sub renovate your cities to the extent that no one wins. then go ahead. It will be a war no one will win. If on the other hand you wish to go on your way haveing made your point and having failed to intimedate us then that will be the best solution for all of us..


Anyone trying to show us 'A Real Hostile take Over' will be shown the true meaning of a Mutually Assure Desruction Defence policey. We are not an agressive state and our entire armed forces are geared for a bitter defence of our homeland.
And we show you the inner workings of ABM systems such as SDI and Skynet!

Have you ever heard of the following Military philosphy's

Satuaration attack
Gloves off offense
Scorched Earth
and The sucker Trap?

If not.......

Everyone has heard of them, the fact is they arnt going to send men to your island group, they are going to nke it to oblivion.
You shouldnt pick on nations bigger than you, especially while there are more of em than you.

Scorched earth? Thats fine were gonna turn you into a gulag anyway.

SDI and Skynet will shoot down your what 200 ICBM's rather easily...

NB- not nuke, annex and turn into 1 big gulag!

gulags -r- us!

Everyone has heard of them, the fact is they arnt going to send men to your island group, they are going to nke it to oblivion.
You shouldnt pick on nations bigger than you, especially while there are more of em than you.

Err, I picked on them? We wanted to sell a few planes then next thing I'm on the verge of being attacked. for what, for trying to ensure that we aint flogging weapons to people we don't trust / are our political opponants. nadaskor has only ever gone to war three time in it's peaceful history, twice as a result of a request from smaller nations under attack from oppressive forces, (and on both occasions that was part of a scratch allience) and once when we were invaded for no reason by some former regional neighbours.

But I have never been swayed by bullies and thugs and I don't intend to do so here.

By the way we have huge ignore cannons.

Everyone has heard of them, the fact is they arnt going to send men to your island group, they are going to nke it to oblivion.
You shouldnt pick on nations bigger than you, especially while there are more of em than you.

Err, I picked on them? We wanted to sell a few planes then next thing I'm on the verge of being attacked. for what, for trying to ensure that we aint flogging weapons to people we don't trust / are our political opponants. nadaskor has only ever gone to war three time in it's peaceful history, twice as a result of a request from smaller nations under attack from oppressive forces, (and on both occasions that was part of a scratch allience) and once when we were invaded for no reason by some former regional neighbours.

But I have never been swayed by bullies and thugs and I don't intend to do so here.

By the way we have huge ignore cannons.
Were invading you because you are a commie who may challenge our superiority of the weapons market. If United Elias joins us, we will have a good share of the weapons market.

OOC:

DT: to be honest the only person he could conceivably be competing directly with would be me, the whole updating of older british stuff isn't quite your bag or really the arket yous ervice (unless you count your oliphant (sp?) upgrades as they in turn are upgraded centurions...).

This is areally a neice market for those who want fun products not super killy mega weapons.

Of course there is always the FC clause...

OOC:
The Gulag Bunch is proud to take commies and turn them into giant gulags!

FC is a dummy when it comes to military tech by the way.

Right, I am an anarcho-socialist, we believe every state has the right to make it's own way in the world, we do not seek to out trade you, unless your scared of competition. We are not a communist state, and your statement as to our being commies shows not only your ignorence of world affairs, but only seeks to confirm our suspisions of the the right and the capitailist system. Under our system of govenment, which is fair and democratic every man woman and child is a part of a decision making system that stretches from the lowest bog cleaner to the President. This is the will of the people and it shall remain so until the people declair it as such. (the father knows best and Few political freedoms bit is because this game does not yet possess the game mechanics for an integrated single party system. I do the best i can with the issues as presented) This is NOT an existing communist system, and one capitailists need only fear if it has to defend it's self. So if you are hell bent on war, atleast do us the justice of having good reason.



OOCDo real nations declair nuclear war on folk who don't share their world view? and have you ever thought why not? I play this game in as relistic way as possible, so if you do want to make an issue of this try to do the diplomatic thing first or you will be ignored.

OOC:
Hitler tried diplomacy with Poland, didnt he? And WE WONT NUKE YOU! Only take some land, if you be good well leave some of your land for you to govern.

Fine, well be like Stalin to finland and demand some nice land first.

OOC:

DT: to be honest the only person he could conceivably be competing directly with would be me, the whole updating of older british stuff isn't quite your bag or really the arket yous ervice (unless you count your oliphant (sp?) upgrades as they in turn are upgraded centurions...).

This is areally a neice market for those who want fun products not super killy mega weapons.

Of course there is always the FC clause...
I sell brit planes.

Sea Harriers, Canberras, and Tornados are the only ones off the top of my head that I can think of.

when will all the other fleets be in place?

I can send a fleet but would prefer tackling the ground war as thats my best armed forces branch.. I also know what Im doing in a land war more or less, whereas in a naval engagement I typically lose either half or all of my forces by the end of it.

Aden gun not Eden gun. Sorry a lIm ittle bit compulsive :D

How do you plan to invade???

10 aircraft carrier battle groups along with tankers/awacs/bobmers are leaving Forcian ports to provide air-superiorety.

How do you plan to invade???
OOC:
Secure a beachhead with marine units, bring in the shock army by sealift ship ASAP, then breakout. Sort of like Normandy mixed with the Vistula offensive.

I'll park my fleets about 1,000 miles off his coast and establish ASW patrols and aircraft onboard carriers will begin flying CAP sorties.

http://www.airpac.navy.mil/gallery/images/f14dusk.jpg

Excellent. Well dispatch some assault ships with 1 Bisonic Fleet to prepare the 1st landings.

I'm going to be calling to duty some of my reservist interceptor squadrons, just incase he tries to bomb Romania. I recommend everyone do the same.

Or just get some SAMs....
-Vlad

air combat is more fun...

We prefer one-sided engagements.
-Vlad

Nadaskor I take it you are located in England? If not, do you have a map of your country?

I sell brit planes.

Sea Harriers, Canberras, and Tornados are the only ones off the top of my head that I can think of.

nice planes but not quite spirited enough compared to real monoliths of wonderfulness like the V-bombers (i went with the vulcan and he with the victor, the victor is the better bomber but the vulcan is just so nice) and the fighers upto the lightning (so what if it has some major problems it is still awesomely cool).

I dumped the sea harrier for the same reasons the UK governemnt are, it is simply too old and has too many problems associated with the GR3 airframe, so i went with a super upgraded multirole evolution of the harrier 2 (GR7 and 9 in the UK and AV-8B and varients in the US).

No.801 sqn defeated F-15's flown by USAF crews in mock combat. A friend of mine in the RN says the move to remove them from service is more of a political decision.

Nadaskor I take it you are located in England? If not, do you have a map of your country?

Nope we are in the indian ocean, I have never bothered to map, but always said the Island gropu consists of an archipeleigo the size of the Phillapines (suze the spelling), consistiong of thick jungle and high mountains.

As far as I see it any attack will be costly for us all, our mainstrike forces are our secret service. It's very big, very diverse and very fanatical with a command structure that is able to function even after the total destruction of the home land. We believe in total war as a last resort defence for situations such as this agression, we leave the exact translation of the up to your imagination, but we never fire the first shot.

However I can see a number of ways out of this that will save effort, ammunition and be lucrative for us all.
a) We co-opperate and I avoid any undercutting price wise on the open market, and avoid selling too each others principle allies.
b) I sell to your organisation exclusivley (bar my political deals), you bump the price and make your profit.
c) Anyone who I find politically 'iffy' I point your way and you do the same.

After all as long as we can keep the other poeple buying there's trade for us all.

Finally ignore sheilds are fully deployed as it is 2.30am UK time and I have work tomorrow.

OOC - I probally wont be around until sunday pm GMT.

Maybe well agree to a deal involving tribute and strategic weapons disarmament....

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87902&start=0

We pay Danegelt to no one. We treat all as equal, we do a deal that we all benefit from or lots of people die. It's as simple as that.

dt we have to find someone to kill FFS!!!

Does lands of ages still have that earth colony? :twisted: :twisted:

Youre gonna pay us lots of Danegeld, boy, unless you want the following to shred you:
Artitsa, Dark Terror, Free Rumania, Xerlox, Augusgrad, Geforce4, TROUSRS, United Elias, Belem.

No.801 sqn defeated F-15's flown by USAF crews in mock combat. A friend of mine in the RN says the move to remove them from service is more of a political decision.

Its a combination of factors, the british government has never been fully behind the harrier and like to stab it now and then.

While the Sea harrier is as it stands a fantastic air to air fighter and a passable antishipping plantform (and about acceptable CAS fighter) it is nearing the end of it's service life. the old model Gr3 airframe had a number of defects that have affected service life somewhat. The indeal plan was to take the G7/9 (based on a newer longer lifed airframe) and make it at least ASRAAM and possibly AMRAAM capable but the government currently feel that the type 45s give them all the air cover they need so the small carriers can make do with Gr9s from joint force harrier for the moment until the new carriers and the JSF arrives.

Most likely the FA2s will be sold on, possibly to the indian navy.

its a sad tale but no worse than many UK govenrment defense decisions (like cancelling the Aden 25mm, the new rounds for the rarden cannon, the TSR issue etc).