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AA-3C/D/E Air to Air Missiles

AA-3C sitting on runway
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Concept

Freedom Countries adavanced, long range air to air missile. With various upgrades, including thrust vectoring (on later models) and advanced range. Its range is 220 kilometres, which is capable of dowing most fighters before they do any damage to friendly air and ground units.

Speeding at upwards of Mach 4 after being launched from a plane, it can home in on any units it gets a lock on.

Guidance

This is the real plus point. It uses both Radar Guidance, Heatseekers, Thermal and Laser to guide it. This means that if one gets jammed, the others will still function. It does not have an inbuilt radar, but rather a reciever, meaning that as long as the launchers Radar is on, it can be guided to its target.

As soon as it closes to within 9/11/13 Kilometres (C/D/E Versions) it can then switch to Heatseeking, meaing it can use both radar and Heatseeking, should one get jammed. When it closes to 3/4/5 Kilometres (C/D/E) it can change also to Thermal, picking and keeping to the target relayed to it by Radar/Heatseeking. At 2 Kilometres (all versions) it can use laser, a pinpoint accurate system that can guide the missile to the enemies cockpit, where it is programmed to hit the top side of the aircraft.

It has several maneuver when launched. When initially launched, it climbs higher than the launch point (5,000 feet higher). It then levels out, and flies in pre programmed height to the enemy. When within 1 kilometre, it pulls up, and dives on the top side of the enemy. When close, it slows to just over the enemies speed, and varioes sub muunitions fire the nose cane outwards, n a fireball. This makes a nice hole for the missile (which has a smaller undercone, behind the prime one) to fly into, milliseconds after. The warhead explodes downwards, into the enemy.

Info

The whole missile is 4.6 metres long, and fits into most bomb bays, ot onto the inner wing of most fighters. Using an FC-JASM warhead, it holds enough power to down any fighter, or cripple any Heavy Bomber (B-52, Tu-160 and the like). Also, using FC-IPAD pre charges under the nose cone, it can propel the nose cone and guidance systems 50 metres forward, in a fireball.

Heavily maneuverable in later versions due to thrust vectoring (causes by various hydraulics driven slides at the rear, it can follow the majority of fighters through up to 9G turns. To evade the jammers, it has electrnonic scramblers changing the guidance frequency and process every 0.5 seconds. But the real genius is that if it is within Heatseeking range, if the radar gets jammed it has Heat to fall back on.

An all round useful weapon, used by FC to great extent. Both A,B and C versions were used during conflicts fought by Freedom Country. Origonally a SAM, it was changed to an AAM not long ago. We hope you like it.

Costs:

AA-3C Version : $410,000
(Not with thrust vectoring)

AA-3D Version: $450,000
(Thrust Vectoring included)

AA-3E Version: $475,000
(Thrust Vectoring, highest guidance ranges and free missile ground maneuvering barrow included with every missile)

We hope you enjoy.

Quality missile peeps.

Ballistic Missles will buy:
10 AA-3E Version
Money Wired: $4,750,000
Money wired upon confirmation

Order confirmed.

Thankyou.

I'll buy 50 AA-3Cs and Production plans if possible.

I'll buy 50 AA-3Cs and Production plans if possible.

Plans and rights are not yet for sale.

We wanr you, due to its size and lack of TV, fighters may get away (and have in the past).

Still, sure.

FHAF Engineers were going to attempt placing Kh-29T TVs into the AA-3Cs. I'll still take them.

FHAF Engineers were going to attempt placing Kh-29T TVs into the AA-3Cs. I'll still take them.

They will not be sent then.

DO NOT change modify them.

The Federation of Hrstrovokia has changed it's mind about the purchase. We will not buy.

Very intersting missile and technical data checks out:

The Ministry of Defence Procurement would liek to purchase 46 AA-3E missiles for test and evaluation, however we require infomration on the dimesniosna dn wieght of the missile, in other words how many can be carried on say a Mig-29?

If test are succesful we would like to purchase producion rights and will most lkikely modify the missile slightly to suit our airborne radars and preocedures. This will aslo eman considerbale cost savings as the 1.75 billion of initial appropriations for the Future Standoff Air to Air Weapons (FSAAW) can be reidirectd to the Future Intermediate Range Air to Air weapons (FIRAAW)

5 could be fired off an MiG-29.

1 in between the engines in the middle, 2 where the extra fuel pods would normally go, and 2 more on the outer wings.

3 could be fitted with additional fuel pods on the side.

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Nice AIM-155 AAAM, and a MiG-29 doesnt have the radar!

Nice AIM-155 AAAM, and a MiG-29 doesnt have the radar!
LOLOL

The Kingdom of Crookfur will purcahse 300 AA-3E missiles as an intrim measure until our new SEAAM is ready.

We are very interested, although we still have our worries on the performance, as the Phoenix series in our arsenal performed poorly even in our own mock combat tests.

The missile looks very amazing, we look forward to test it on our F-14s.

We will take 300 E version for evaluation.

Total is $142.5 million

Trust us, the AA-3 is more maneuverable than the Pheonix.

And shut up DT, with your 'encyclopedia' of knowledge. Hell, all of your products, like the T-80UM5, are T-80 pics from the first page of a Google search!!! Everyone needs a pic, and I am using this one. Not everyone can make their own pics, or can be bothered to look for an individual missile pic that no-one has seen before.

And I said a MiG-29 could CARRY it and fire it. It might not bne able to use it to the full, ut it could sure as hell fire it and carry it.

Orders confirmed.

nothing wrong with using existing pics.

I am reticent to puchase. The Dominion has long held grave fears about the drawbacks of semi-active radar guidance. We will, respectfully, abstain from purchase.

It is, incidentally, child's play to retro-fit a MiG-29 with a AWG-9 or similar. Malaysia did it. As have the Luftwaffe.

We have our own Mig-29 Uphgrade package if anybodys' interested.

Mig-29 Upgrades (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75578&highlight=)

Thanks for the thumbs up guys.

And for recommendations, just ask Independent Hitmen.

Conked about 10 of his aircraft :)

We will purchase, say 500 AA-3Es.





237.5 million, payable upon confirmation.

Order confirmed, enjoy.

And you gotta have a good radar to use these properly.

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We have completed our evaluation and fired all of the 46 'E' missiles we originally purchased for this purpose and we have identified some minor flaws which we would like addressed before we buy further;

-When Stored in hot climates or subjected to extreme combat manouvers while on the aircraft it has a tendancy to 'cold launch' and either the proepllant does not engage at all or more normally (14 such times) it will simply ignite several seconds late after it has freefalled for a thoudand or so feet which is obviously problematic when flying low or when the engagement is time critical.

-The onboard the computer is somewhat outdated and not actually very good at decinding on how and when to use thrust vectoring and often vectors too late and hence in the wrong direction.

-General Poor quality if construction and unreliability, we suggest that quality controls are improved as there was poor consistency.

When the actually missile perfomed as designed it was very impressive in tracking targets at considerable range and enagaing them succesfully. Therefore we are willing to work together with you in resolving these faults, which seem easily rectifiable.


Ministry of Defence Procurement and Export,
Federal Dictatorship of United Elias

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We have completed our evaluation and fired all of the 46 'E' missiles we originally purchased for this purpose and we have identified some minor flaws which we would like addressed before we buy further;

-When Stored in hot climates or subjected to extreme combat manouvers while on the aircraft it has a tendancy to 'cold launch' and either the proepllant does not engage at all or more normally (14 such times) it will simply ignite several seconds late after it has freefalled for a thoudand or so feet which is obviously problematic when flying low or when the engagement is time critical.

-The onboard the computer is somewhat outdated and not actually very good at decinding on how and when to use thrust vectoring and often vectors too late and hence in the wrong direction.

-General Poor quality if construction and unreliability, we suggest that quality controls are improved as there was poor consistency.

When the actually missile perfomed as designed it was very impressive in tracking targets at considerable range and enagaing them succesfully. Therefore we are willing to work together with you in resolving these faults, which seem easily rectifiable.


Ministry of Defence Procurement and Export,
Federal Dictatorship of United Elias

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OOC: Wait, isn't calling someone elses stuff 'unreliable' and 'poor quality' godmodding, when you have no evidence.

We found none of these problems, minus the cold launch one. It may just have been the way you kept them.

Even so, an 'F' version is in the works to combat these problems.

We have completed our evaluation and fired all of the 46 'E' missiles we originally purchased for this purpose and we have identified some minor flaws which we would like addressed before we buy further;

-When Stored in hot climates or subjected to extreme combat manouvers while on the aircraft it has a tendancy to 'cold launch' and either the proepllant does not engage at all or more normally (14 such times) it will simply ignite several seconds late after it has freefalled for a thoudand or so feet which is obviously problematic when flying low or when the engagement is time critical.

-The onboard the computer is somewhat outdated and not actually very good at decinding on how and when to use thrust vectoring and often vectors too late and hence in the wrong direction.

-General Poor quality if construction and unreliability, we suggest that quality controls are improved as there was poor consistency.

When the actually missile perfomed as designed it was very impressive in tracking targets at considerable range and enagaing them succesfully. Therefore we are willing to work together with you in resolving these faults, which seem easily rectifiable.


Ministry of Defence Procurement and Export,
Federal Dictatorship of United Elias

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/united_elias.jpg

OOC: Wait, isn't calling someone elses stuff 'unreliable' and 'poor quality' godmodding, when you have no evidence.

We found none of these problems, minus the cold launch one. It may just have been the way you kept them.

Even so, an 'F' version is in the works to combat these problems.

OOC: Well urm... could be but I just though it made it more interesting.

We have completed our evaluation and fired all of the 46 'E' missiles we originally purchased for this purpose and we have identified some minor flaws which we would like addressed before we buy further;

-When Stored in hot climates or subjected to extreme combat manouvers while on the aircraft it has a tendancy to 'cold launch' and either the proepllant does not engage at all or more normally (14 such times) it will simply ignite several seconds late after it has freefalled for a thoudand or so feet which is obviously problematic when flying low or when the engagement is time critical.

-The onboard the computer is somewhat outdated and not actually very good at decinding on how and when to use thrust vectoring and often vectors too late and hence in the wrong direction.

-General Poor quality if construction and unreliability, we suggest that quality controls are improved as there was poor consistency.

When the actually missile perfomed as designed it was very impressive in tracking targets at considerable range and enagaing them succesfully. Therefore we are willing to work together with you in resolving these faults, which seem easily rectifiable.


Ministry of Defence Procurement and Export,
Federal Dictatorship of United Elias

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/united_elias.jpg

OOC: Wait, isn't calling someone elses stuff 'unreliable' and 'poor quality' godmodding, when you have no evidence.

We found none of these problems, minus the cold launch one. It may just have been the way you kept them.

Even so, an 'F' version is in the works to combat these problems.

OOC: Well urm... could be but I just though it made it more interesting.

Ok, I get ya.

Expect 'F' to have a better computer, more speed and better relays to the Thrust Vectoring.. Range is unaffected as is the guidance systems, though they are being modernised slightly. And its primary setting, btw, is what the pilot sets it to at launch. Say its radar at 200km, and the enemy cuts their radar at 15km. It would then switch to the next longest ranged, heat seeking, and find the target that way.

Expect its size to be bigger too.