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Declaration of War Against the Isle of Tortuga

The Macabees
29-10-2003, 02:31
Recently falangist rebels claiming their right to a fascist government in the Empire were put down by the Macabean Imperial Military in a short, but bloody battle around the capital of city of Galicia, Cartagena.

During the rebellion the Isle of Tortuga, a pro-fascist nation, was prone to spread fascist propaganda and attempted to spread the rebellion elsewhere. Luckily our citizens are deeply nationalistic and support the democratic emperor, Finegold III.

But this act of belligerency cannot go without punishment therefore the Empire of the Macabees officially declares war on the Isle of Tortuga for acts against the people of the empire.

Evidence



"Now is the time, we must rise and strike, the Allies hold our citizens hostage in Port Royal, and even now they send a huge force under the pretense of ensuring protection of their farther out Naval outposts, THESE ARE LIES, they come to begin the invasion and re-occupation of Tortuga, we must show them they cannot so easily push us around. As of now I recognize our Nationalist brothers in The Macabees as the legitimate government of that nation, and I shall enter talks with them to supply arms and volunteers, it's time for the world to tremble before the righteous again"


"HA! These false bolsheviks believe they can stop our brethren from acheiving greatness, their armies are being slaughtered by their righteous citizens as we speak. I urge all citizens in The Macabees to join the fight, and together you can defeat this "Emperor"


Thus, the following units have been mobilized (or will be by the end of the month) to take the war to Tortuga ::

The Fleet of the West
5 HNS Marx Class Dreadnoughts
3 HNS Amon Amarth Aircraft Carriers
10 HNS David Oglive class Battlecruisers
20 Gato Class Light Attack Sub
100 Cargo Ships
15 Ticonderoga class Cruisers
5 Iowa Class Battleships
20 Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates
15 Tankers
10 Manta small attack Submarines
10 Honor Class Frigates
3 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier
100 Wolf Class Submarines
100 Canis Class Submarines
35 Minesweepers
20 Minelayers
7 Iowa Class Battleships
13 Jessica Class Heavy Battlecruisers
10 Coastal Cutters
50 Patrol Boats

Total :: 551 Ships


The Heer

5 million infantry
>>250 Divisions (20,000 men each)
>>>3.5 million maitenance, cooks, engineers, etc...
>>>>80,000 Pegaso Heavy Trucks

5,000 Pz.VII "Cougars" (Macabean Tech...not RL tech)
2,500 Stug III Ausf. B AA (Same as above)
2,500 Pz. VI "Cheetahs" (Same as above)
2,500 Pz.IV "King Lions" (Same as above)
>>20 Divisions
>>>50,000 maintenance,cooks,engineers,etc...
>>>>10,000 Pegaso Light Trucks and Medium Trucks

20,000 350mm Howitzers
30,000 300mm Howitzers



These are just the prelimanary forces and may escalate as the war prolongs. We expect a formal answer by Tortuga and the invasion will begin as soon as the forces are fully set to invade.
Artitsa
29-10-2003, 02:33
Artitsa pledges its support to The Macabees as a long time ally. Forces will be allocated at a later time.
The Macabees
29-10-2003, 02:35
Artitsa pledges its support to The Macabees as a long time ally. Forces will be allocated at a later time.

We thank you very much.
29-10-2003, 02:37
The Commonwealth of Dark Terror will aid The Macabees in ridding the world of this fascist menace. The Bisonic Defense Department announced the mobilization of the 1st Motorized Shock Army, 1 of the worlds largest fighting forces (basically intended for blasting right through fortifications), to assist in the invasion (read: overkill!). Deployments are to begin ASAP by sealift ship and cargo plane. The 1st Motorized Shock Army consists of:
• 5,000 T-7M 'Gilgamesh' Heavy Tanks
• 1,250 BMPT-84M Heavy Infantry Figthing Vehicles
• 3,000 BMP-3M2 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
• 300 MSTA-S Self-propelled Artillery Systems
• 65 Smerch-M MLRS systems
• 50 BUK-M1-3 SAM systems
• 400 Gaz-3937-Igla-S SAM systems (sorta like Avenger)
• 150 Pantsir-S1 SAM systems
• 400 BRDM-3 Reconnaisance Vehicles
The Macabees
29-10-2003, 02:41
We will provide the naval cargo ships needed to send over the forces of Dark Terror. Some will be landed by air later on after we have established a foothold on the island.

OOC: Sort of like the 10th Mountain Division in Crete, it was landed at Maleme days after the actual invasion.
29-10-2003, 02:43
We ourselves have 100 sealift ships, but still appreciate the help.
Credonia
29-10-2003, 02:44
Credonia will dedicate any support it can to help Macabees should they require our aid (military or medical)
29-10-2003, 02:46
As one of the Macabees closest and best allies, we too declare war and will fight a longside the Macabees!
29-10-2003, 02:46
As I am deaply shoked by the way Isle of Tortuga acted I will provide
500 of the finest Raysian Aero RF-11 "Archangel" as escorts for your opperations.
The Macabees
29-10-2003, 02:46
Strategic planning will now begin between Manstein (Chief of General Staff of the Macabean Imperial Wermacht) and Dark Terror. We are looking for an invasion as soon as possible.
29-10-2003, 02:48
The Allied States of Zossen pledges finiancial support for The Macabees in this conflict.
29-10-2003, 02:48
The Allied States of Zossen pledges finiancial support for The Macabees in this conflict.
The Macabees
29-10-2003, 02:48
As one of the Macabees closest and best allies, we too declare war and will fight a longside the Macabees!

Thank you, your aid is appreciated.

As I am deaply shoked by the way Isle of Tortuga acted I will provide
500 of the finest Raysian Aero RF-11 "Archangel" as escorts for your opperations

Thank you for your support. The increased protection will do well in the beginning operations for control of the island's beaches.
The Macabees
29-10-2003, 02:54
The Allied States of Zossen pledges finiancial support for The Macabees in this conflict.

We thank you and this will seal our union as allies in the Grossdeutschland region.
The Macabees
29-10-2003, 03:01
The Fleet of the West entered Tortugan waters, some 30 kilometers off the Tortugan coast. The subs and sub destroyers patrol the outskirts as the other ships begin their massive bombardments on a 100km front all around the strip of coast.

180 SS-101 (dive bombers) protected by 60 SS-102's (air superiority) also begin their bombardment of the coast and the back in the horizon the troops designated for the landings begin to approach protected by yet more ships.

The fleet has utmost protection and would be considered all but impregnable.
Credonia
29-10-2003, 03:17
The Fleet of the West entered Tortugan waters, some 30 kilometers off the Tortugan coast. The subs and sub destroyers patrol the outskirts as the other ships begin their massive bombardments on a 100km front all around the strip of coast.

180 SS-101 (dive bombers) protected by 60 SS-102's (air superiority) also begin their bombardment of the coast and the back in the horizon the troops designated for the landings begin to approach protected by yet more ships.

The fleet has utmost protection and would be considered all but impregnable.

Check your nations telegrams ;-)
29-10-2003, 03:17
The Commonwealth has its soldiers on full alert. With a monetary donation to boost our currently fragile economy, we will begin carpet bombing the isle.
The Order of Reptiles
29-10-2003, 03:25
TOR has little to offer, but what we have will be used to aid you in your cause.

TOR is sending the following:

100,000 regular infantry (Which, yes, we do have, albeit its a majority of our ground forces. We have about 400,000 in our army. Figure half is fighting men and women. So thats half my fighting force)
50 bombers (which we were donated)
100 T-55 tanks
Supplies and munitions
Medical staff
Whatever else we can scrounge up.


Defeat the facist menace swiftly, and there will be much buying of drinks in many TOR bars.
The Sword and Sheild
29-10-2003, 04:05
OOC Note 1 ((That fleet is actually incredibly vulnerable, the sheer size makes it unwieldy and incredibly hard to defend, I mean the waters surrounding Tortuga according to the map I have could simply not support a massed fleet of that size. Not too mention the number of supply ships heading to one area is a hugely tempting target for the Tortugan Submarine Raiders, who could easily just sink all your transports that supply it, and once out of fuel just capture your ship, there are reasons I only have about 90 ships deployed in the area, a small number of my actual Navy ))

OOC Note 2(( The actual RP those statements related too is already under way, a war between a resurgent Tortuga and the Allied Nations, we are attempting to make an rp with more in depth tactical action, rather then what I'm sorry to say I am seeing here which is sending number-wanking amounts of troops to a foreign land without consideration for any wars he may already be in, or any other forces besides his (Such as my be-seiged Port Royal Garrison, or my Naval Fleets) in the area. ))

The Allied States requests The Macabees and his allies to withdraw from Tortugan waters immediately. If you didn't already know, Tortuga recently completed it's Rearmament (After me and my ally disarmed him), turned fascist, and recently declared war (On me and my ally), over running my Sevilla Naval Base (He has about 450,000 soldiers on your soil) and be-seiging my only fortress I have on his island, Port Royal Naval Base. The Allied Nations (Myself and the Republic of Canadian Princes) are deploying massive Naval and ground forces to the area to deal with this resurgent Tortuga, planning on a full occupation rather then the disarmament and claiming of Port Royal that ended the last war.

Seeing this massive forces appear without any warning the Allied States are extremely alarmed with it's supply lines now in further jeopardy and the valuable remaining Fleet Carriers now under even more threat. With no decleration of intentions to the Allied Nations directly, and no quesitoning of what forces they might need, we can only assume they intend to capture Tortuga for themselves, something the Allied Nations cannot allow, such nearby lands falling to an Empire still relatively unknown would be incredibly de-stablizing. To these ends the Allied States have for their part in the Alliance begun massive mobilization, ordered up most ships in the Reserve Fleets, and are beginning to contact former allies to possibly join in a limited war on Tortuga against The Macabees should he rashly decide to invade on his own....





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"It takes the Navy 3 years to build a new ship, it takes 300 years to build a reputation, we must not let the Army down" Royal Navy Admiral Andrew Cunningham, upon being told it was too dangerous to risk ships to evacuate Army soldiers from Crete
29-10-2003, 04:16
Alarmina shall give its alleagence to the Allies.
29-10-2003, 04:18
OOC:
I think my tactics will be limited to a massive all out assault, seeing as the shock troops are about as big as his whole army, if not bigger.
The Sword and Sheild
29-10-2003, 04:42
OOC:
I think my tactics will be limited to a massive all out assault, seeing as the shock troops are about as big as his whole army, if not bigger.

OOC: Since this entire RP is based on one where we wanted to have some fun, you will be ignored for that, not blanket-ignored but just for this sim by at least the Allies, not sure about Tortuga though I would imagine him as well. We are doing this for fun, and since he is relatively small to even just me and Canadian Princes, we are using limited forces to ensure the RP is not just number-wanking, but semi-planned out posts where each battle is decided in a lot of smaller posts, the beginning part of it is of course meant to be a Naval War, and just destroying his entire Navy (Which I could probably do with my overwhelming advantage in numbers) would be absolutely no fun. Since I don't think I mentioned it in my last post, these are not the intentions of a nation that just wants to threaten others, in fact Tortuga is not even a Fascist, he just turned one to set up a pre-text for the RP we are currently in, so you see a quick cut-and-paste massive invasion completely defeats the purpose of the RP
The Order of Reptiles
29-10-2003, 13:14
OOC: Its just for fun? Oh, damn.

TOR has seen fit to withdraw all forces. Instead, we are sending one thousand of our best longbow men, as well as five hundred men armed with the prototype "Self loading Muzzleloaders".

These are the village idiots we have so craved to be rid of, so I have a feeling we won't be seeing them again.


Good day, gentlemen.
29-10-2003, 13:41
OOC:
I think my tactics will be limited to a massive all out assault, seeing as the shock troops are about as big as his whole army, if not bigger.

OOC: Since this entire RP is based on one where we wanted to have some fun, you will be ignored for that, not blanket-ignored but just for this sim by at least the Allies, not sure about Tortuga though I would imagine him as well. We are doing this for fun, and since he is relatively small to even just me and Canadian Princes, we are using limited forces to ensure the RP is not just number-wanking, but semi-planned out posts where each battle is decided in a lot of smaller posts, the beginning part of it is of course meant to be a Naval War, and just destroying his entire Navy (Which I could probably do with my overwhelming advantage in numbers) would be absolutely no fun. Since I don't think I mentioned it in my last post, these are not the intentions of a nation that just wants to threaten others, in fact Tortuga is not even a Fascist, he just turned one to set up a pre-text for the RP we are currently in, so you see a quick cut-and-paste massive invasion completely defeats the purpose of the RP
OOC:
More specifically, hold a beachhead with marines, bring in the troops via sealift ships ASAP ( a couple NS months), then break out. Sort of like normandy, except I should be able to overwhelm the defenses with ease. I can see it now, Hitler ignoring the Vistula offensive.

Anyway, Macabees agreed to split up tortuga with me once hes annexed. This might not be so much for fun..
29-10-2003, 16:18
Tortuga can have 100,000 marines.
and 100 F-22 Raptors, Custom built in my Factories.
29-10-2003, 16:25
hehehe,
only kiding,
there coming alright,
in several Ships including two super carriers, A battle ship, and transports all with supply ships etc, But there not helping him,
There coming to kill him.
Five Civilized Nations
29-10-2003, 18:05
OOC:
I think my tactics will be limited to a massive all out assault, seeing as the shock troops are about as big as his whole army, if not bigger.

OOC: Since this entire RP is based on one where we wanted to have some fun, you will be ignored for that, not blanket-ignored but just for this sim by at least the Allies, not sure about Tortuga though I would imagine him as well. We are doing this for fun, and since he is relatively small to even just me and Canadian Princes, we are using limited forces to ensure the RP is not just number-wanking, but semi-planned out posts where each battle is decided in a lot of smaller posts, the beginning part of it is of course meant to be a Naval War, and just destroying his entire Navy (Which I could probably do with my overwhelming advantage in numbers) would be absolutely no fun. Since I don't think I mentioned it in my last post, these are not the intentions of a nation that just wants to threaten others, in fact Tortuga is not even a Fascist, he just turned one to set up a pre-text for the RP we are currently in, so you see a quick cut-and-paste massive invasion completely defeats the purpose of the RP
OOC:
More specifically, hold a beachhead with marines, bring in the troops via sealift ships ASAP ( a couple NS months), then break out. Sort of like normandy, except I should be able to overwhelm the defenses with ease. I can see it now, Hitler ignoring the Vistula offensive.

Anyway, Macabees agreed to split up tortuga with me once hes annexed. This might not be so much for fun..

Why do you even get a slice!?! You weren't involved in the original war... Also Macabees doesn't have the final say, because there were other nations involved in the wars...
Five Civilized Nations
29-10-2003, 18:10
I disagree... You shouldn't be able to split a nation up... No nation has a right to decide the future of another.

In addition, both Sword and Sheild, Canadian Princes, me, and other nations are also involved in this war... You and the Macabees are not alone... If any decision is made about the division of the isle of Tortuga, it should be made by all of us...
29-10-2003, 18:12
I disagree... You shouldn't be able to split a nation up... No nation has a right to decide the future of another.

In addition, both Sword and Sheild, Canadian Princes, me, and other nations are also involved in this war... You and the Macabees are not alone... If any decision is made about the division of the isle of Tortuga, it should be made by all of us...
OOC:
Well, he might not have meant annexation, but he said Id get a piece of him.
Five Civilized Nations
29-10-2003, 18:15
okay then...
29-10-2003, 18:17
okay then...OOC:
And once my usual tactics (a mix of blitz-krieg and some of my own doctorine) are put in place to surround his capital, I think Ill decide how big that piece will be.
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 00:33
OOC: Swords and Shields, a fleet the size of mine in his waters is perfectly manuvarble. The allied fleet in the channel preceeding Normandy is a perfect example of this. Other examples would be the Soviet Baltic Fleet next to Leningrad which protected the city from early German incursions and lasted for over 2 years of the war (although there a rumors that most of it was sunk there after).

IC: The Macabean nation will not bend to anyone who threatens it like this. Your navy, if ever next to mine, will be considered an enemy if you continue this proding, as if I was inferior to you.

My army will continue to attack Tortuga and I will not end my perpetual salvoes onto the island. (OOC: Please post your dead)...

OOC:Also, the numbers in my army are not large... the Red Army had about 9 million by 1945 (although only 6 million on the front) and Im over 4 times the size of the CCCP in 1945.
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 00:44
To the leaders of the allies already around Tortuga:

We have no intention of annexing the entire nation of Tortuga, or to take over the government, neither to install a puppet regime. Our only intention is to "take" a slice of his nation (as is Dark Terror's), occupy it with some 100,000 men, and integrate into the empire.

It's what the Empire consideres a punishment.


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As night turned to dawn 20,000 infantry (the 88th Division) in 667 Higgin's boats (I used a calculator and thats what I came out to) and 200 Pz. VII's (Macabean produced...not the Tiger II or the Lion) in another 100 LCA's began to make their way to the coast with the Western Fleet still firing salvoes out of their large guns. Tomahawks and Cruise missiles also began to pound the coastal villages and cities and some even went as far as possible to the capital of Tortuga.

10 miles to their left another division (the 116th) also began to make their way to the beaches followed by another 200 Pz.VII's and protected by ships and missiles.

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OOC: These are the plans to landings... therefore secret to all other parties..its just for your information type things.

IC: Following the two divisions and 400 tanks would be another 3,000 tanks and 300,000 infantry in increasingly larger waves. All 340,000 men and 3,400 tanks would be on the beaches by H-Hour + 8.

OOC: Yes its supposed to be WWII scale...
30-10-2003, 01:03
Also, the Bisonic Oversees Deployment Fleet, under Admiral Dormutsky, has set sail, heading for the Isle of Tortuga. It is expected that Bisonic landings will soon follow.
30-10-2003, 12:56
my troops will soon be in position to land.
Credonia
30-10-2003, 13:17
Honoring the newly established alliance between Credonia and The Macabees, Credonia stands poised to mobilize and send in troops to assist The Macabees on thier command. Current NON-NUCLEAR military forces are now at DEFCON 3 (elevated state of alert).

Current state of Credonia and its military forces: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84639


Kaimoni .A. Sutton
President of the United States of Credonia
President of the United States of Stapestry
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 17:01
You can begin landing as you as you would like to.

OOC: I need to get Tortuga to answer to this RP or else everything is invalid. Let me TM him...
30-10-2003, 22:15
(( Oh forget it, I meant for all this to be a good RP, now I know what people mean when they say RP has downgraded into people bringing uberwanking amounts of allies in to flood over everything was XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX amount of troops and ships. The Baltic and Channel fleets? NONE of them were ever 500 ships big, the most they reached was around 200 (Not counting Normandy, which if that entire task force was to stay would've been sunk, it's a much different situation) and of that only about 18 were Heavy Capitol ships. This entire thing was supposed to be between me, Canadian, FCN, and SnS, but noooo someone insisted we make it an open RP, and specifically try to get other nations in, bad choice to he who made it. Now I've got an insane amount of nations after me, don't you people know what the hell the word overkill is. Annex me and take my land? While certainly legal in NS, and since I didn't mention the fact that I am doing this specifically so we could have a good war RP (For those not quite understanding, I am NOT a Fascist, we just couldn't think of a reason to have a war with 3 Defensive Democracies, and 1 struggling one, a Fascist rising filled this in) I suppose I couldn't contest it. But know what? This is the oppisite of what it was supposed to be, I'm not even a major force in the war anymore, christ don't you know what a Tactical and not Strategic war means, ugh, anyway, since I really can't blanket ignore you all, I'll be going with the following plan, don't like it? Too bad, I don't care, I'm not RPing here for a long time following this, cut up the piles of nuclear waste all you want ))

IC: *All over the land light peirced for a breif few seconds. The mountains of the North shook on their bases, the plains of the south rippled under the force. Fire lit up the sky as the isle of Tortuga was engulfed in it, hundreds of Nuclear devices going off inside their own borders, the peoples not wanting to continue or give up their land. The Cities were quickly gone, followed by the once beatiful lands. Spared from the destruction was the Port Royal Naval Base of the Allied States of the Sword and Sheild, and wherever the hell it was Macabees landed.*

*On the seas the Tortugan subs that were hunting convoys, upon recieving the order, scuttled their ships or fled to Allied Ports to avoid dishonor. The Surface Fleet made a final sortie out against the Allied Naval fleets (You are aware of the size of his Navy right?, just wondering, and he sent only 90 ships, see that is tactical (in relative terms) not 507 god damn ships), the Death Sortie lasted many hours with the final ship the Tortugan Cruiser Barker finally going down after being ripped apart by repeated salvos from Allied Battleships and Cruisers.*

*Hours later the land was nothing but a dark wasteland, when the sun broke over it again it was reflected by nothing, millions upon millions dead, the citizens knew their place. Perhaps one day in the future the land would be re-populated, and a glorious nation would rise from it's ashes, but for now, it was a radioactive wase....*
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 22:20
OOC: What a poor sport...we never meant to annex you and its just a war...

Oh yea...do you want the full make up of the Baltic Fleet and of the Normandy fleet becaue I can give them to you..

IC: The initial landing forces were quickly chewed up by the flames. Some 1,200 men were killed or severely wounded. The other higgins boats turned around but some were overtunred killing the inhabitants. The rest of the divisions made way back to their fleets and hours later the fleet turned and made way back home.
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 22:23
OOC:

I had nothing to do with the SnS war and I had no plans for tactics. This was a war of annexation and I like to go big. You spread the fascist propaganda without telling me the plan and your taking the consequences of your actions.
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 22:24
The final onslough before them was only part of the death ride of Tortuga. Three patrol boats were sunk off guard but then the rest of the fleet around there turned their guns and opened fire on the last of the Tortugan navy.
30-10-2003, 22:29
OOC:

I had nothing to do with the SnS war and I had no plans for tactics. This was a war of annexation and I like to go big. You spread the fascist propaganda without telling me the plan and your taking the consequences of your actions.


Wait wait wait, this was a war of annexation, but you had never intended to annex me? What the hell does THAT mean, seriously man. You get to annex all you want now, I don't see why your not happy. And I did state, that I should have explained it, and had it just been YOU attacking me I would've continued on against the now completely impossible odds. I would've let you annex me or whatever since I didn't explain it, but following that I DID explain it, and SnS even asked your allies to leave, they would've lost nothing, absolutely nothing, I see no reason to continue on if this is what the people I have to RP with are like
30-10-2003, 22:30
1/4 of this new crater is now claimed by Dark Terror. Good day.
30-10-2003, 22:33
Poor Tortugans....

I do see he has a point with the overkill issue. Come on people you should only need to back someone if it is neccessary.

Emperor mike elliott
Armed Republic Of Royal palm
30-10-2003, 22:34
1/4 of this new crater is now claimed by Dark Terror. Good day.


How about 1/3 and an ice cream cone?
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 22:57
OOC: You could of made a resistance movement..thats what RPing is about..making up a good story line, not some flimsy tactical war, where people lose alot of men but no economical spoils for the victors.

IC:
Six small ships carrying the 1st Infantry Division landed on one of the now destroyed beaches of Tortuga. The 20,000 men stepped out with full bio-chemical suites. Behind them the outline of other ships could be seen.

The Macabean Military had implemented a plan to decontaminate the island for the sake of humanity and to get the nation back on track.

Another division, the 33rd with another 20,000 men were to measure and occupy a full 200,000 square miles of land, 50,000 over the original plans. For the next 100 years trillions upon trillions of sheckels would be poured into the rehabilitation of the island and the re-emergence of the Tortugan nation. Of course the Macabees would always control those 200,000 sq.mi. of land.
30-10-2003, 23:03
OOC: You could of made a resistance movement..thats what RPing is about..making up a good story line, not some flimsy tactical war, where people lose alot of men but no economical spoils for the victors.

IC:
Six small ships carrying the 1st Infantry Division landed on one of the now destroyed beaches of Tortuga. The 20,000 men stepped out with full bio-chemical suites. Behind them the outline of other ships could be seen.

The Macabean Military had implemented a plan to decontaminate the island for the sake of humanity and to get the nation back on track.

Another division, the 33rd with another 20,000 men were to measure and occupy a full 200,000 square miles of land, 50,000 over the original plans. For the next 100 years trillions upon trillions of sheckels would be poured into the rehabilitation of the island and the re-emergence of the Tortugan nation. Of course the Macabees would always control those 200,000 sq.mi. of land.

Whoa whoa whoa, since when was it 200,000 sq. mi. Are you talking about the whole island, you conviniently forgot Port Royal (The Naval Base is also a city), if it is only the land you occupy, then fine whatever. If you didn't notice I started this war against 3 other nations, all 3 of them bigger then me, and I would've let them keep what they won, but we wanted an in-depth war. In the last two days the only military action done by me or the Allies has been some well-thought out and comprehensive statements, only on of which featured fighting at all, and it was a post done in hindsight of the action, all it has been was deploying the necessary forces, and setting up character we would use. Not only did you send a massive fleet and army at me, you Landed it as well! Not a single mention of a character or a post that seemed to go further in depth. Something I might've overlooked if you were cooperating with the other nations so I could be sure I was getting something to keep...
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 23:07
OOC: Actually I never landed it...I refrained from landing it.... before you nuked yourself it was about to land... in fact I was waiting for your reply on your defense (to make a Normandy type landing) but since you nuked yourself and scuttled your ships then I guess i can land...

Oh yea if you have no more than 200,000 sq.mi. how can 450 million people live on it?? The USA has 3.4 million sq.mi. of territory with a population of almost 300,000 million.
30-10-2003, 23:26
OOC: Actually I never landed it...I refrained from landing it.... before you nuked yourself it was about to land... in fact I was waiting for your reply on your defense (to make a Normandy type landing) but since you nuked yourself and scuttled your ships then I guess i can land...

Oh yea if you have no more than 200,000 sq.mi. how can 450 million people live on it?? The USA has 3.4 million sq.mi. of territory with a population of almost 300,000 million.


*Head spinning* The US Has a huge amount of territory that no one inhabits, so you can't really use them as a great example for territoryPopulation. And the point of my question was where did you get the idea it was only 200,000 Sq. Miles. IT ISN'T that was the point, I was wondering if you had occupied the whole island (In which case I meant to point out you can't occupy Port Royal, the only existing city) or just that 200,000 Sq. miles.
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 23:30
OOC: Sorry, no I havent occupied the entire island but I am working to decontaminate it and to restore your nation... see im not all bad..
30-10-2003, 23:49
i will help Isle of Tortugua by sending my troops out to protect the land and the people. And as being a member of the UN i will put a porposel down to support you finacialy.
The Macabees
30-10-2003, 23:52
i will help Isle of Tortugua by sending my troops out to protect the land and the people. And as being a member of the UN i will put a porposel down to ksupport u finacialy.

Is this a declaration of war??

OOC: if you didnt notice he blew himself to hell and im helping his island decontaminate..but if you would like I could annex you too and the numbers wouldn't be as large since I dont need to waste blood on you... hehe
The Sword and Sheild
30-10-2003, 23:59
i will help Isle of Tortugua by sending my troops out to protect the land and the people. And as being a member of the UN i will put a porposel down to ksupport u finacialy.

Is this a declaration of war??

OOC: if you didnt notice he blew himself to hell and im helping his island decontaminate..but if you would like I could annex you too and the numbers wouldn't be as large since I dont need to waste blood on you... hehe

Is that a threat to a nuetral party supporting a devestated nation? I would certainly hope not. I'm sure the nation noticed what happened.

In the meantime the Allied Government has declared Port Royal now a soveriegn Allied Territory. Specialists are being sent in to de-contaminate the immediate area, and delegates have been sent to the UN to ask for teams to handle the island-wide de-contamination.

On the military side, all deployed fleets in the area are being recalled, with the exception of the Port Royal Naval Base squadrons, which will of course stay in Port Royal.
The Macabees
31-10-2003, 00:06
Sword and Shield would you like to take part in a united effort to decontaminate the island? I am trying to send some 50,000 soldiers currently being trained on the field but that might not be enough and my government funds are going to feel the dent even if its a 100 years term.

Also, New Queen's Land, is sending troops which for a "war" which is more than over is more than a threat. There is no real need for troops to defend a dead nation which I am trying to rehabilitize.
The Sword and Sheild
31-10-2003, 00:13
The Sword and Sheild
31-10-2003, 00:17
Sword and Shield would you like to take part in a united effort to decontaminate the island? I am trying to send some 50,000 soldiers currently being trained on the field but that might not be enough and my government funds are going to feel the dent even if its a 100 years term.

Also, New Queen's Land, is sending troops which for a "war" which is more than over is more than a threat. There is no real need for troops to defend a dead nation which I am trying to rehabilitize.

The Senate has discussed and accepted this proposal. 35,000 Army and Marine soldier will remain on station specifically for missions dealing with de-contamination. We will also utilize our Navy in this effort, any nations willing to help can have their men and material transported by the Allied Navy for free to the Isle. Also the Fleet Carrier Invincible and it's group will stay on station for aerial support (Flying over lands to check for things, that sort of thing) to serve as a floating air base since there is little land left on the island for one. Also any nations helping in this effort are allowed to base or dock at Port Royal and it's Naval Base and use it as a base of supplies.