NationStates Jolt Archive


new naval dockyards

26-10-2003, 13:35
the discovery of large strong metal deposits alongsid the natral haubours provided by my fuded costlin has prompted the construction of masive naval dockyards in Aracas the plan is that when completed they will be able to churn out 5 ships a week to exsact specifications cost for bulding will be given before the buld is complet. this will cost me 100000000credits and will tacke a week to complete the biuld with my current workforce we should work should be finished by 2/11/03 and the first dock should be up and runing by 29/10/03 however this will be for work on my own forces. build is 3% complete. the construction of a helicopte aronautics center has begun to develop coppas most suiter to sip based rolls this construction for this is much simpler than the dockyards and is alredy 25%complete reasrh has alredy begun.
27-10-2003, 10:55
the work on the dokyard is 15%complete and is on schdual. The building of the helicopter reserch center is almost complete and the bilding of a prototype is complete and testing has begun.
click hear to see a picture i cant get the image in not for lack of trying (https://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/content/data/gallery/full/1066917225f.jpg)
Gazelle AH-1


The Gazelle really is the 'sports car' of the rotary-wing world of Naval Aviation. A superb aircraft its flying qualities are splendid and its forgiving nature.


Gazelle AH-1
Engines 1 x 592shp Turbomeca free power turbine
max speed 200kph
celing 1km
Crew 1 or 2 pilots

armerment
2 miniguns placed under th fusalarge able to put out 1000 rps
can take 3 missile pods taking either anti tank, anti sub, anti surface ship missiles

cost for a prototype = 5 mil
28-10-2003, 10:34
the work the ship yard is still on schdul and is now 30% complete. the building of helicopter center is now 75% complete and a second helicopter is in development the merlin multi purpouse personal / anti submarine
Powered by three Rolls Royce Turbomeca gas turbines, the rugged, crashworthy airframe is of modular construction, mainly of aluminiumlithium, aluminium and composites. The rotor system, which is fully folding, benefits from some of the most advanced helicopter aerodynamics in the world. With a maximum all-up-mass of 14,600 kg, and a top speed of 167 kts, the Merlin can carry four homing torpedoes or depth charges, and has sufficient fuel for a radius of operation of over 200 nautical miles.

merli
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/gallery/full/1055492803f.jpg
The aircraft and its mission system are managed by two computers, linked by dual data buses. The glass cockpit is configured for single pilot operation, as is the dual redundant flight control system and auto pilot. All crew stations can access the management computers and can operate the tactical displays, fed by the Blue Kestrel radar. Navigation is state of the art with ring laser gyros, inertial reference systems GPS, doppler and radar altimeters. The sonics suites are both Passive, (AQS903), and Active Dunking Sonar (FLASH), both system benefiting from some of the most advanced form of information processing. Electronic Support measures (ESM), are supplied by the new Orange Reaper and the mission system is completed by a comprehensive communications fit. The capability of the Merlin weapon system is such that it has been double-earmarked for the two Primary Roles of both anti surface anti surface missile capability is planned for the Merlin Mk2

armerment
4 hard points best suted for homing torpedoes for the anti submarine roll can also carry 4 homing missiles
twin foward mounted mini guns

The Merlin
Engines 3 x 2,200shp gas turbines.
Rotor diameter 18.6m
Length 22.8m
Max Speed 167 knots
Max weight 14.6 tonnes
Crew 1 pilot + 1 observer + 1 aircrewman +20 soilders can be carried
£7 million
29-10-2003, 11:01
finaly the first of my dokyards is complete the build of the type 23 frigate the sa Atradies
type 23 frigate
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/gallery/full/1005833599f.jpg
Type 23 Statistics
Displacement: 4,200 tonnes
Length: 133m
Beam: 16.1m
Complement: 185
draught 5.5m

Armament:
misiles 2 x Quad Harpoon Missile launchers. anti-ship missile with a range of 130 km travles at mach 0.9
Vertical Launch Sea Wolf anti-missile system poin defenc agaist planes and missiles with a range of 10 km

guns - 114mm MK 8 gun 25 round a minut range 22km
2 x 30mm Close range guns
2 x Magazine launched anti submarine torpedo tubes

Aircraft:

1lynx helicopter 1merlin


Propulsion:

Turbines:

CODLAG (Combined Diesel and Gas) - 2 x

Rolls Royce Spey gas boost

Diesels:

4 x GEC-Alsthom Paxman Valenta

Electric:

2 x GEC motors

£170,000,000,000
29-10-2003, 11:17
also the development of the gazel has led to a need for a more manouverable anti suface anti submarine role wich is lighter and easyer to lanch from a frigate and moving the merlin on to air craft carriers
lynx mk 8
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/gallery/full/988622567f.jpg
The Lynx Mk8

Primarily an anti-surface and anti-submarine helicopter designed to operate from frigates and destroyers of the Fleet, this fast and capable aircraft has recently been updated to the Mk8 standard, which is now in service throughout the Fleet. The aircraft is being fitted with a very advanced Central Tactical System and Passive Identification Device in addition to the equipment currently fitted. Each independent flight comprises a pilot, an observer and a team of 7 maintainers. They embark in their ship whenever it sails. Able to fire the Sea Skua anti-surface missile, the Lynx forms an integral part of the ships detection and weapon system and can project the influence of a ship over great distances with the key element of surprise. In addition to the Sea Skua the Lynx has the Sting Ray torpedo and the older technology, but nevertheless most effective depth charge for anti-submarine warfare. The aircraft may also be fitted with a machine gun pod.

A second variant of the Lynx is in service with the Royal Navy. The attack/utility version is operated in support of the Royal Marines in conjunction with the Commando Sea King. It fires the TOW anti-armour missile and gives an autonomous and flexible response against tanks and armoured personnel carriers to the Land Force Commander during Amphibious Operations.

The Lynx
Engines 2 x 900hp Rolls Royce GEM BS 360-07-26 free power turbines
Rotor diameter 12.8m
Length 13.4m
Height 3.5m
Max Speed 180 knots
Max weight 4.4 tonnes
Crew 1 pilot + 1 observer + 1 aircrewman
armermentTOW anti armour misiles
2 foward facing mini guns
up to 3 inteligent torpedoes

£6,000,000
29-10-2003, 22:15
broardsword
http://www.specialoperations.com/Aviation/Black_Hawk/ride.jpg
speshalized helicopter gunship specialized for clearing the area and geting the troops on the ground after havung made a horrbile mess of any enermie on the ground.

gets 15 meters from the ground and drops ropes out of either door whlst desmating the area with mini guns on either door soildes an then absil onto the ground

spesifications

engins 2 x rolles royse 1000 hp armardas
max speed 150kph
celing 2000 m
armerment mounted mini guns either side in the two doors
4 anti armour misile pods holding 20 mosiles each
crew 1 x pilot 1 x observer 2 x gunners 1x air crew man and up to 10 soilders

10,000,000
CoreWorlds
29-10-2003, 22:41
So how much are all of these things? (I notice your economy is a basket case, which is bad, very bad)
29-10-2003, 22:53
Arcas, you are hearby ignored due to your basket case economy. YOU CANNOT AFFORD such a project even with support let alone build any vessels. Come back when your economy is thriving (like mine :P)
30-10-2003, 10:21
i have the support of a country with a strong econamy and 517 million citzens and a 60%. Also note my tax rates whch are currently 82% and higher erners are charged closer to 100%
30-10-2003, 10:25
gazel is 5 mil
merlin is 7 mil
a type 23 frigate is 300 mil
linx is 6mil
broadsword costs 10 mil
Ancient and Holy Terra
30-10-2003, 10:35
Aracas Gross Domestic Product
Population: 12,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Basket Case
GDP per Capita: $500
GDP: $6,000,000,000
National Budget: $768,888,000

Sorry bud, but I think Exetonia is right. You're only supposed to devote ~20-30% of your budget to military matters. I suppose you could argue that your research facilities are also used by civilians, so you could devote a larger part of the budget to this research, but I'd still say that you're too young at the moment.

Having a larger country back you does not mean that they'll pay for all of your stuff. You need to be able to finance the majority of the construction, or else everything produced is technically owned by the larger country.

Also, high tax rates are unrealistic in the real world. People will have no desire to make money if they're gonna have 80% of it taken away at the end of the year. Still, your prices are certainly realistic, which is good.

You show promise. Just back off of the gas a bit, let your nation and its economy grow, and then get back to this project. And before anybody laughs at me, I'm not a new nation...merely a resurrected May nation...:?
30-10-2003, 10:45
the large nation backing me is doing so for me to produse thes wepons for sale in his shop this thread is just till the shop is up and running
30-10-2003, 10:56
Aracas Gross Domestic Product
Population: 12,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Basket Case
GDP per Capita: $500
GDP: $6,000,000,000
National Budget: $768,888,000

Sorry bud, but I think Exetonia is right. You're only supposed to devote ~20-30% of your budget to military matters. I suppose you could argue that your research facilities are also used by civilians, so you could devote a larger part of the budget to this research, but I'd still say that you're too young at the moment.

Having a larger country back you does not mean that they'll pay for all of your stuff. You need to be able to finance the majority of the construction, or else everything produced is technically owned by the larger country.

Also, high tax rates are unrealistic in the real world. People will have no desire to make money if they're gonna have 80% of it taken away at the end of the year. Still, your prices are certainly realistic, which is good.

You show promise. Just back off of the gas a bit, let your nation and its economy grow, and then get back to this project. And before anybody laughs at me, I'm not a new nation...merely a resurrected May nation...:?

ooc:- What is GDP per capita and GDP? This could help me a lot of you were to explain and how do u work it out? thanks
31-10-2003, 10:11
also pepole seem to have forggotten the realativly low cost of workers meaning that cost of producing goods costs alot less than because of the relativly low cost of labour. also this happens in the real world countrys like england and america are massive employers in china and other LEDC's
31-10-2003, 10:31
i, as a demiliterized zone, am not allowed to develop my military but I have a need for a defence. Looking through these Forums i found this developing nation, about the same age as me, with a militry development and have decided that i m in need of defence.

I am willing to donate half my militry buget or 3,474,954,000 to the militry development of aracas in the understanding that if my borders are thretened he will send military to defend them.
31-10-2003, 11:17
Greetings from the Rouge Nation OF Nauac

We like your development of equiptment Aracas and would like to invest 1billion USD. Of course, you will have to allow your equiptment to be sold in our region shop.
As you are in our Region i will help fund your military development further if needed, as i have $978,127,487,500 to spend on my military; so contact me if you need anything else.
Meulmania
31-10-2003, 12:41
Aracas Gross Domestic Product
Population: 12,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Basket Case
GDP per Capita: $500
GDP: $6,000,000,000
National Budget: $768,888,000

Sorry bud, but I think Exetonia is right. You're only supposed to devote ~20-30% of your budget to military matters. I suppose you could argue that your research facilities are also used by civilians, so you could devote a larger part of the budget to this research, but I'd still say that you're too young at the moment.

Having a larger country back you does not mean that they'll pay for all of your stuff. You need to be able to finance the majority of the construction, or else everything produced is technically owned by the larger country.

Also, high tax rates are unrealistic in the real world. People will have no desire to make money if they're gonna have 80% of it taken away at the end of the year. Still, your prices are certainly realistic, which is good.

You show promise. Just back off of the gas a bit, let your nation and its economy grow, and then get back to this project. And before anybody laughs at me, I'm not a new nation...merely a resurrected May nation...:?

ooc:- What is GDP per capita and GDP? This could help me a lot of you were to explain and how do u work it out? thanks


GDP is Gross Domestic Product and per capita means per person so your GDP per capita is how much money your citizens are making each (on average).

Note:- Your prices are way over the top compared to deals I have been able to get from other nations. I suggest lowering them if you want to sell many.
Crookfur
31-10-2003, 13:01
Actually the prices aren't bad, a bit low perhaps but since they are in £s (ie multiply by 1.6 to the get the $ price) that perhaps isn't a factor.


Just one niggle: why of earth does your broadsword have 6 engines? why not the 2 that actually appear in your pick (of an MH-60 DAP).

Unless this is a massive helo there is now way you are getting more than 11 men in it (the basic black hawk has room for 11 troops and the DAP only really room for 8 at the most).
31-10-2003, 13:11
this is the acctual cost for the type 23 frigate
so from now on it costs £170,000,000
31-10-2003, 14:24
the broadsowrd is based on the blackhawk (baisicly the best picture i could find) i will macke the change to the amount of men.and moters thank you for your advise and support

also thanks for your support nagroth and Nauac i will send you both a lynx helicopters as a token of our eternal thanks your donations have streagthened my economy massily an put me in the position of being able to begin the devalopment of a destroyer and an helicopter carrier

type 42 destroyer
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/gallery/full/989593562f.jpg
the type 42 is the current desroyer of the aracan fleet. primaraly an air defence destroyer but works well in mulipule rolls.

specifications
displacment 4675 tons
leangth 141.1m
beam 14.9 m
draught 5.8m
speed 30+ knots
range 4,000 miles at 18 knt
crew 269

armement
missiles- sea dart twin lancher-anti aircraft missile range of over 80km#

gus- vikkers 114mm mk 8-21kg shell at 25 rounds per minute ------over22,000meters
-------4 GAM BO 20mm cannon range 900 rounds per minute 2km
2 phalianx mk 15-20mm automatic Gatling gun range of approximately 1 mile fire at the rate of 3,000 rpm automatic anti air traking system

torpedoes-6 342mm trpedoe tubes

air support

1 lynx mk 8 recomended (not included in price)

price £150,000,000

ocean helicopter assult carryer
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/gallery/full/1012386789f.jpg

possible the only helicopter carryer currently in the world.its main roll is as a helicopter landing platform but with its four large landindg craft it dobles a an anfibious assult platform

specifications
displacment 21,758 tones
leangth 203.4m
beam 34.2 m
draught 6.6 m
flight deck 5,389 sq m
speed 19 knts
range 8,000 miles at 15 knts

armement
3 phalianx mk 15-20mm automatic Gatling gun range of approximately 1 mile fire at the rate of 3,000 rpm automatic anti air

air suport
12 merlin's
6 lynx mk 8

boats
4 large landing crafts carrying 200 troops each

land forces (not included in price)
500 troops + 300 emergncies
40 ladrovers
34 trilers
6 fild guns

£154,000,000

landranger AA62 landing craft
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/data/%5B(1241)-05-11-2002%5Dlanding.jpg

large landing craft able to carry 200 troops or 100 and a vicle and trailer

statistics
Length : 29.8m
Beam: 7.4m
Draught: 1.7m
Displacement: 240 tonnes (fully loaded)
Propulsion: 2 x diesel engines for 8.5 kts
capacity 200 troops or 100 with vicle and traler or gun or 100+tank

£3,500,000