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After the sucsusful launch of the LBS Untouchable the ship is for sale. The Untouchable class has 80 anti ICBM SM-2 weapons that can intercept missiles and planes, even stealth ones do to infared up to 250 kilometers away. Although for the stealth ones you'll have to wait for 20 kilometers. Also on board are two nuclear reactors that push the ship to 25 knots. It aslo has 20 Tomahock tubes, 2 triple 16 inch gun implacments, with another 6 16 inch guns. Its other weapons include, 24 fast firing 10 inch guns. The ship is 243 meters and 87 centimeters long and 50 meters and 67 centimeters wide. Its displacemnt is 87,287 tons. It has 20 anti torpedo torpedo tubes, capable of taking out enemy torpedos. The ship has 15 inch armour. Requires a crew of 2275 drrafties, and 78 officers. One can nearly defend and entire fleet from missile attack. Or 5 can defend a fleet against torpedos and almost all missiles. They are also good offensive weapons, and will make the battleship true again.
In recent tests, 250 ICBMs were fired at it and nearly all were taken out outside 100 miles, of the ship.
Price: 1.5 billion

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http://www.ifrance.com/aeronautiquemilitaire/images/Missiles/Patriot.jpg

The Evolution class battlelauncher is the first battlelauncher ever its first 100 meters of ship are pur battleship then theres another 100 meters where theres 200 VSL tubes followed by 75 meters of battleship. The ship is poered by 2 nuclear reactors that push the ship to 22 knots. The ship has 19 inch armour and it has 6 18 inch guns and 10 16 inch guns. The crew is 1985 enlisties and 67 officers. It is a new type of ship that can cause vast amounts of damage to a ship before it comes into range of the guns than it can finish them with its guns. It is the evoltuion class battlelauncher
pirce: 1.3 billion.
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Titan Class Torpedo Boat. A small torpedo boat with 4 forward torpedo tubes, a Titan-1a super presurised gas turbine. Capable of 35 knots can be devistating against fleets. It has a crew of 52 enlistees and 3 officers. Its 27 meters long and 5 meters wider.
Price: 35 million
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The Typhoon class SSBM
The Typhoon class was a ballistic missile submarine made by the soviet navy and was the biggest submarine ever built. It was a devistain 175 meters long, and could sink to a depth of 400 mters. It was so amazing that it oculd launch its missiles from port and hit the U.S.! It carries 20 SLBM with up to 200 nuclear warheads. Its displacment is 24,500 tons, and can reach 27 knots. Its engines are 2 nuclear reactors. The ship has a crew of 45 enlisties and 45 officers. It holds 20 SLBMs being 2x10
Price: 2.3 billion
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The Alpha class SBM
The fastest submarine ever built it can reach devistating speeds of 43 knots, but this time it has a reworked reactor a record that should last for a long while. It has a displacment of 2300 tons, and has a crew total 76. Even though it has only one nuclear reactor. The Alpha class is more than a match for the L.A. class.
Price: 1.4 billion
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/alfa-DNSC8704339.JPG

Minsk class SSBM, an updated Typhoon class, it has 135 SLBMs being 3x15 or 1.5 times as wide and long as they typhoon class. It has two pressurized nuclear reactors, that pressurize the power to increase power. It has 4 633mm torpedo tubes, and has a crew of 78 officers and 118 enlisties. Its only dowside is a high matnince cost.
Price: 3.4 billion

Volga class attack aub
An updated Alpha class with a menacing 6,700 ton displacment and one super preasurzed nuclear reator, capable of sending this beauty to 55 knots, with 6 forward 633mm topedo tubes, 4 backword, 8 on each side and tons of counter measures. It has a crew of 17 officers and 58 enlisties, its only downside is its high matnince cost.
Price: 2.3 billion
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The MiL-1 is now availible it is a plane thats designed to fly at only 50 feet, it is bassiclly a better A-10, it has a 2 inch cannon as well as 10 hardpoints. It flys at mach 1.3 and is quite hard to shoot down or even detect on on radar. It has a crew of one.
Price: 25 million
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The MiL-2 a superhigh altitude attacker/figheter. Desgined to fly at 100,000 feet, it is one of a kind and very hard to shoot down. It flys a mach 2.5 it is designed to carry 8 hardpoints with air to air missiles and 10,000 pounds of internal bombs. It can bomb its target and defend its self in a dog fight. Some thing planes haven't been able to do for 50 years! Crew: 1
Price: 30 million
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/jas2.jpg

MiL-3 a plane with one purpose to take out B-1s, B-2s, F-117s, and B-52s. A intercepter capable of up to 100,000 feet it has a crew of tow, one to man the super advanced infared and rader, and one to be the pilot. It can detect even stealth planes 20 kilometers awar, and can easly kill them. It has a meanising 14 hard points 6 internal 8 external. Also it has a 4 inch cannon and can go to mach 2.9 do to its two Titan-2b advanced turobofan engines that have turbojets in the middle to increase poower. It can easilly take out a B-2 costing 800 million. Buy them today
Price: 35 million
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A plane has been developed it is the MiL-4. It has two of these engines and is quite impresive. it does need tons of fuel which it gets it has wing bays for 400L of natural gas. It has other internal baysaround the engine for 1000L of the mixture. The plane that has 200,000 pounds of thrust can reach speeds of mach 7. It cruises at mach 6. It has a crew of 2. One is the pilot. The other is the radar operator.

Stats:

Hardpoints: 11

Range: 10,000k without refueling or 4 hours

Weight: 70,000lb

Thrust: 200,000lb

Crew: 2

wingspan: 43 feet

length: 39 feet

Cost to public: 70 million

1, please. (it's a present for Konohagekure Village)

order confirmed that will be 1 billion. The ship willa rive in 6 months.

money wired. Thanks for the ship!

want one for yourself? I have payment plans!

Jono, got a pic for it????

Hmm... I don't know. I already have an Iowa class right now, and i believe buying the production plans might hurt military spending (I still need to search for aircraft).

ahhhh ya. ONe se who is this.

Not bad, but you should come up with more specific stats. Unrelated it seems like my battlecruisers could take it on nicely, they're slightly larger then an Iowa class. My battleships and dreadnoughts(carrier/battleship crossover in the case) are even bigger then that.

i myself don't wish to buy one, but i congratulate you on learning on learning how to RP better. I wish you luck in the future.

please. This is almost differnet class then a bttleship. I'll acept payment over 5 year. YOu get the ship immidiatly if your small.

It would likely work, but it is of course easy meet for a my Valkyrie bombardment criusers, while your VLS complement is alrger and you have more guns, my guns have a far far longer reach and higher rates of fire.

yes that is why it ahs tommahocks.

I would buy one, but I already have a couple Iowa Class Battleships

so buy one anyway. These things can defend a fleet against missiles!

Anti-torpedo torpedos? You would be better off with countermessures, much cheaper that way, and do you have any idea how hard it is to hit a torpedo wiht a torpedo?

They have both. Why would it be so hard. Patriots can hit missiels that go much faster.

Lima, i don't want to be rude but you do realise that tomahawks and SM2 standards can use exactly the same type of VLS cell?

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/mk-41-vls.htm

If it was me i would just have 100 VLS cells and mix and match what you carry at any given time.


Oh and guns have one rahter nice advantage over missiles, they tend to be less effected by CIWS esspecially with nice high RoF weapons.

water is also much thicker than air, you are relying in a prop propultion system, so a torepod goes much slower and turns much slower than a missile.

Congrats on your new rp skills! we'll take one for research. money wired upon confirmation

So Torpedos go in straight lines it should be easy. Crookfur, the only reason I changed is because Clan Smoke Jauguer told me it was god modding if I didn't change. Do you want to buy some?

thank you. The ship would be 1.5 billion but because hte first 5 get 33% off you get it for, 1 billion. The ship we be sailed to your harbour by a crew who will then with your permission be airlifted back, in 6 months.

Unfortunatly, our Valkyrie class criusers suplly all the guns we need and our Gertrude class destroyers more than enough AA/AM cover

yes but do they have anti torpedo torpedos, or are they one ship????????? oooooooo ahhhhhhhhhhhh.

Think of it more along the lines of someone throwing a tenis ball at you, and then you throwing a tenis ball at it and knocking it out of the air. . . that would eb closer than the Patriot reference. Plus, countermessures would still be cheaper than torpedoes.

Counter measures are not nearly as reliable.

That claim is akin to saying its more reliable to shoot a bullet out of the air with your own bullet than to put on a bulletproof vest. On a complelty unrealted topic, *IE, before I forget* congraduations on not Godmodding, our little Lima is growing up, soon we'll have to find someone else to label n00b.

any more buyers?

o with the armoured vest thing. Yes if you can hit it because you dont get a bruiese. And we can hit it here.

think for 1 billion you can defend your fleet form missiles!

I am still a bit warry of that claim, but if you are willing to produce one with countermessured in place of the torpedos, I'll buy one, the Prince could always use anouther playtoy.

ok. Its a deal. We would give you a price cut but because you're already gettign 33% off sorry. It will arrive in 6 months. The factorys are warming up and the metal starts poring in.

my little lima is growing up sniff sniff :cry:

excelent, would you like that via money, platinum, tungstun or titanium?

platinum, thank you anymore orders?

thank you. The ship would be 1.5 billion but because hte first 5 get 33% off you get it for, 1 billion. The ship we be sailed to your harbour by a crew who will then with your permission be airlifted back, in 6 months.
$ wired

thank you.

bump

This deal won't last long!

5 plez

ok that is 5 billion dollars. The order will be sailed to your country in 2 years. Thank you for your order.

Lima Beens wrote:
we have hte Untuouchable class battleship needed for any fleet right now youc an get one for 33% off at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85505

total purchase: 1 billion USD
money wired upon confirmation

thank you order confirmed

98,736 1 lb ingots of pure platium have been loaded onto a cargo plane and are being shipped to your nation. Two squads from the Takian First and Only Peacetime Legion have been dispatched to defend this shipment as it makes its way to your landing strips. We will arive with the hour, and take our latest toy when we leave. . . Graviton beams from the Dreadnaught Prince's Furry will be used to tow it to space, and fold it to Proxima Centari, where it will act as a museum and military history center.

the plane touches down. multiple trucks pull up and are loaded. The trucks then go to the tresury.

this ship is amazing!

Erm, so the ship carries 80 Anti-ICBM missiles.

You fired 500 ICBMs at it, and it took all of them out.

:?

Something's not right with your maths, there....and besides, if you said you had a ship that could take out 500 ICBMs (which, in case you didn't know, cruise at extremely high altitudes), I doubt many people would accept it.

that was a computer simulation. In real life chances are that a few would get by. But the point is it stops the vast majority.

that was a computer simulation. In real life chances are that a few would get by. But the point is it stops the vast majority.

No, 80 interception missiles would take out less than 80 ICBMs. There is a margin of error, that means not every single missile could be effective.

Therefore, if someone fired 500 ICBMs at this ship, more than 420 would continue on their merry way.

I think you need someone to service your nation's computers....

n. I have 80 launchers each with 4 missiles. I surpose that's 280. I gues I was calculating realoading. Oh well I'llchange it to 250, thank you.

n. I have 80 launchers each with 4 missiles. I surpose that's 280. I gues I was calculating realoading. Oh well I'llchange it to 250, thank you.

Ok, I didn't realise you meant 80x4.

Still, that's less than 500....

That's ok. I changed it to 250. Thank you for your help. Would you like to buy one or tow or three?

That's ok. I changed it to 250. Thank you for your help. Would you like to buy one or tow or three?

No problem, no thank you.

For such an 'Über' ship, it would have been nice if you went a bit more in-depth into it's description. It would have also been great if you could atleast spell it all correctly. :P

You've edited your post 12 times already, could you atleast fix some of this stuff?

o sorry. I'lla dd some more description. Would you like to buy some?

Hows that Har Land, good enough for you to buy one?

---Secret Transmission---

To: Lima Beens
From: Free Bonstocknian High Command
Subject: Our order

We would like ten of these new battleships in order to help liberate the Bonstocknian homeland. Please keep it secret. The order will come to 15 billion USD.

The People's Navy would like to purchase 2, one for defense and war and another for reverse engineering and redesigning our own ships, we will send 4,000,000,000 USDs. *money wired*

Secret Message, delivered by hand:
order is confirmed. The first 3 will arive in 6 months. The other 7 in 3 years. Thank you for your order.

We will take 1. We will eventually destroy this ship, but, it will allow us to figure the weaknesses in the ship.

(and maybe begin producing our own varient)

thank you. The order is confirmed. It willa arrive in 1 year.

I will take one of your ships, send it fast!

I will take one of your ships, send it fast!

I will take one of your ships, send it fast!

I will take one of your ships, send it fast!

I will take one of your ships, send it fast!

I will take one of your ships, send it fast!

ok. It will be sent in 6 months. Order confirmed

If someone orders in the enxt two minutes they get 33% off!

I will order one to finish off my military spending for the next 2 years.

order confirmed thats 1 billion.

the sale is over.

I believe one of these ships would not seriously harm our military budget. As such, I would like to purchase one Untouchable-class battleship for the Queendom of Lunarion, at a cost of $1.5 billion USD. The money shall be wired to you immediately.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/447989/lunarion_war_minister.gif
Gen. Nick Shaft
Minister of War
Army Chief of Staff
Lunarion

order confirmed. Do to many orders it will arive in 18 months.

any more buyers?

8 Please, for the fleets.

15 plz

confirmed. The orders will arive in 5 years. We are waiting for a new factory to become operational in 6 months.

any more orders?

Any more orders?

2 please.

*money wired*

order confirmed. It will arrive in 2 years.

Congratulations on your new ship Lima Beans!
We would like to buy 3 of your ships.

OOC: I hate to point out to you that 250mi infra-red is impossible, as water molecules in the air hold a heat signature, and thus infra-red signatures at distance get obscured, making an effective infra-red range under the best theoretical conditions limited to well under 1mi (likely 500' or so). As location of water molecules is effectively random, there is no way to compensate.

Short-range missiles are virtually impossible to intercept because of short targetting and tracking times. So while you might be able to knock down cruise missiles, ship to ship missiles would hit before your missiles could acquire targets. Ship-based missiles cannot carry enough fuel to hit an ICBM, which is many miles above you, not to mention that, even if you could, the recoil of launching such a missile would sink your ship by forcing it under water.

I also agree with previous comments on the impossibility in intercepting torpedoes. Not to mention torpedoes leave no heat signature, and so are undetectable by almost any method (until impact), much less by something computer automated.

When designing ships/etc... think about the science of what you are proposing. If you don't know, try to look it up, or ask someone. (Or play future tech, where no one cares that half of their technology is likely impossible).

Well you can detect torpedos on sonar.... but everything else you said is pretty much right.

Well you can detect torpedos on sonar.... but everything else you said is pretty much right.

I seem to recall that torpedoes are too small for standard sonar, but i could be wrong. Certainly missile guidance systems aren't going to be able to incoporate a sonar system capable of detecting them.

Well I thought torpedos gave out enough sound.... For the infared, ok we'll do it for a mile. THank you for your corctions.

ICBM's can, and hav, been shot down by US ships in the Pacific, during testing.

thank you freedom country.

anymore buyers?

O ya another not e ICBMs are quite easy to shoot down.

They are slow, cant maneuver to avoid. Their main point is that they are HIGH.

Anyway, money wired for 8.

all orders confirmed.

ICBM's can, and hav, been shot down by US ships in the Pacific, during testing.

Now i'm curious. Do you have a web page i could check out?

It's happened - they used improved versions of the SM-2. And yes, torps can be easily picked up on sonar.

Though everything else about this ship still reeks of godmod.

ICBM's can, and hav, been shot down by US ships in the Pacific, during testing.

Now i'm curious. Do you have a web page i could check out?

No, just something I heard during my time in the RAF.

Someone in the brief was saying that the Americans had a new gizmo, and that the UK want it.

Anyway, did you know that the Patriot can shoot down Planes?

Congrats on the better RP, much nicer. As a side note, your ship may be better classed as a heavy cruiser. With only 6 16-inch guns, it hardly fits the standard for battleships. Not saying that you have to fit the mold, but this is more a super-heavy battlecruiser. Also, you might want to upgrade your armor a bit. it doesn't have to be thicker, necessarily, but 9" is the equivalent of a WWII era destroyer or so.

These are little discrepancies that you might want to clear up in the future. Nice vessel though. Also, although it is possible to intercept ICBMs with missiles, it is hardly an accurate job. Yes the tests say what the tests say, but it reality, you are not going to hit more than about 60-70% of the time on a good day. And consider that many ICBMs will actually separate before your missiles gets close, meaning all 2-8 warheads will be independent targets.

Torpedo hunting is actually quite easy, it's downing the torpedo that is hard. Anti-Torpedo-Torpedoes simply aren't very good. Nixies and other counter measures are much more effective for stopping incoming torps.

Overall, it needs a little work, but your tests are going to be much more effective than real-world scenarios. If this ship gets into a slugfest with most other nations capital ships it's going to lose. Most of our ships can take a good hit and still operate at a lesser efficiency... yours is going to take a single hit from a 12-16" shell and shatter at the point of impact with a 9" belt.

ICBM's can, and hav, been shot down by US ships in the Pacific, during testing.

Now i'm curious. Do you have a web page i could check out?

No, just something I heard during my time in the RAF.

Someone in the brief was saying that the Americans had a new gizmo, and that the UK want it.

Anyway, did you know that the Patriot can shoot down Planes?

The Patriot was actually initially designed to take out incoming ICBMs as well. The newest versions are quite capable of taking out just about anything in the air, including fighters...

Yeh well, with the amount of Patriots this thing has, its bound to down it.

any more orders. And may I ask whats god modding about it?

two more planes will be availible soon!

The evolution class battleship/vls will be availible in a little while.

Lot of people making accusations but no one really knows what their talking about. First it hasn't really been proven that Patriots can intercept missiles (well I'm not to sure of its effectiveness in the Iraq war recently and that information will likely not be very reliable). A missile has never been sucessfully intercepted (like I said I'm not to sure about the Iraq situation). Patriots were primarily designed to intercept only certain missiles. The missiles which fall into this category are those similar to Scuds, Scaleboards, etc. Think of V-2s. These are the type.

Now for ICBMs (none of you know much about these). The only time these can be really and effectively intercepted is in their launch stage (ie: after they've just been launched and are going up towards the sky). Theres better termonology but I'm too lazy to find it.

Ships can be refueled at sea by refueling ships. Something very much overlooked on NS by RPers. I can see how ships would be deployed to areas suspected of having nuke ICBMs and then as soon as one appeared on radar an interception missile would immediately be launched as this would be the only real good time to intercept. Its like a ship version of airborn laser (using missiles instead).

There's somemore too but I forgot it.

thank youf or your information, but I read somewhere that SM-2s can take out ICBMs in all their stages. Would you like to buy some?

2 please. *Bios Wired* (That's our currency)

order confirmed. It will be shipped in 12 months.

any more orders?

any more orders?

please buy a MiL!

please buy!

About your 'Untouchable' ship:

1)IR doesn't work up to 250 miles, maybe 10, 15 miles. The heat signature gets really mixed up by other heat signatures and water molecules in the air (they absorb and disperse the heat) at long ranges.

2) You can't intercept ICBMs 100 miles from the target, because they'd still be in their flight phase, which is way over the stratosphere.

3)Anti-torpedo-torpedos are not reliable, you'd have to track a fast moving target and it's hard to turn in water.

thank you Ill change that.

these planes are amazing!

Lot of people making accusations but no one really knows what their talking about. First it hasn't really been proven that Patriots can intercept missiles (well I'm not to sure of its effectiveness in the Iraq war recently and that information will likely not be very reliable). A missile has never been sucessfully intercepted (like I said I'm not to sure about the Iraq situation). Patriots were primarily designed to intercept only certain missiles. The missiles which fall into this category are those similar to Scuds, Scaleboards, etc. Think of V-2s. These are the type.

Now for ICBMs (none of you know much about these). The only time these can be really and effectively intercepted is in their launch stage (ie: after they've just been launched and are going up towards the sky). Theres better termonology but I'm too lazy to find it.

Ships can be refueled at sea by refueling ships. Something very much overlooked on NS by RPers. I can see how ships would be deployed to areas suspected of having nuke ICBMs and then as soon as one appeared on radar an interception missile would immediately be launched as this would be the only real good time to intercept. Its like a ship version of airborn laser (using missiles instead).

There's somemore too but I forgot it.

Ok, it's called the boost-phase. Realistically, the best chance you have of stopping an ICBM is 5 seconds before burnout. That does not mean onse they have just been launched and are going into the sky. An ICBM continues to burn until it is outside of the atmosphere and locked into an appropriate trajectory. You have, roughly two and a half-minutes for solid propellant missiles at range, and four for liquid-propellant missiles at range.

However, it is posible to intercept the re-entry vehicles it is just nigh on, impossible to do so as they have no propulsion, are relatively small and their only heat signature is the friction of the air on them. The new Patriots are designed to deal with this situation, however ABM tests have never been performed. As for shooting down aircraft, we have seen their capability in shooting down our own aircraft.

The current ineffectiveness of anti-ballistic missiles has led to the development of the airborne laser. So I retract my previous statement that the Patriot can knock just about anything out of the air and correct it to: anything except the untried and untested ICBM re-entry vehicle targeting.

any more buyers?

thank you Agnosticium

Any other orders?

Ii would take one :D (untouchable class battleship) , if :( the price was a little more reasonable, 1.5 billion is practiclymy intire war budget, 1 billion, no more. Even if I had a higer war budget ,a battleship would not be worth nearlythat much. In fact, I am starting to think that my generous offer of 1 billion is too high. :cry:

Lot of people making accusations but no one really knows what their talking about. First it hasn't really been proven that Patriots can intercept missiles (well I'm not to sure of its effectiveness in the Iraq war recently and that information will likely not be very reliable). A missile has never been sucessfully intercepted (like I said I'm not to sure about the Iraq situation). Patriots were primarily designed to intercept only certain missiles. The missiles which fall into this category are those similar to Scuds, Scaleboards, etc. Think of V-2s. These are the type.

Now for ICBMs (none of you know much about these). The only time these can be really and effectively intercepted is in their launch stage (ie: after they've just been launched and are going up towards the sky). Theres better termonology but I'm too lazy to find it.

Ships can be refueled at sea by refueling ships. Something very much overlooked on NS by RPers. I can see how ships would be deployed to areas suspected of having nuke ICBMs and then as soon as one appeared on radar an interception missile would immediately be launched as this would be the only real good time to intercept. Its like a ship version of airborn laser (using missiles instead).

There's somemore too but I forgot it.

Ok, it's called the boost-phase. Realistically, the best chance you have of stopping an ICBM is 5 seconds before burnout. That does not mean onse they have just been launched and are going into the sky. An ICBM continues to burn until it is outside of the atmosphere and locked into an appropriate trajectory. You have, roughly two and a half-minutes for solid propellant missiles at range, and four for liquid-propellant missiles at range.

However, it is posible to intercept the re-entry vehicles it is just nigh on, impossible to do so as they have no propulsion, are relatively small and their only heat signature is the friction of the air on them. The new Patriots are designed to deal with this situation, however ABM tests have never been performed. As for shooting down aircraft, we have seen their capability in shooting down our own aircraft.

The current ineffectiveness of anti-ballistic missiles has led to the development of the airborne laser. So I retract my previous statement that the Patriot can knock just about anything out of the air and correct it to: anything except the untried and untested ICBM re-entry vehicle targeting.

Thanks for the details. However patriots are not so good. They have an 11.5 second solid fuel rocket motor. They weren't designed origionally as missile interceptors (I think). There are certain missiles in Israel designed specificly for intercepting ICBMs. Typicly anything coming down is difficult to intercept (ie: a scud B coming at you). Patriots are prox frag and are firstly targeted by radar on ground and then switched to its own radar when it comes into range. I don't know if any of these specs were designed for high altitude interception of ICBMs so you can judge for yourself. And yes it appears as if Patriots are good at taking out our own planes. Lol.

Also there are subs being developed (and this is what I forgot last time) which are small and fairly undetectable to sonar. So I would assume a small torpedo would be rather difficult to track.

Also, buy Lima Beans' ships (and planes).

Thought I'd put a positive comment to this rather kind fellow for allowing me to discus this on his storefront thread.

I Will Take Two Untouchable Class Battlehsip 8) But Only For $1 Billion Each :twisted: Ok?

I Will Take Two Untouchable Class Battlehsip 8) But Only For $1 Billion Each :twisted: Ok?

Money Will Be Wired Upon Confirmation Of Order

I guess only because your new.

don't forget we have MiLs!

(This is Artitsa)
Whats a MiL?

a plane check the original poste. It says so.

Apparently their both hard to shoot down. Even though one flies at 50 feet or so... brushing into trees and the such... getting hit by AAA fire... ya know. Dah well.

I know so I exagerated.......... oh wellt hey do fly at mach 2.

please pelase buy a MiL! They're better than A-10s and FB-111s

NO ONE has bought a MiL :(

the evolution class is avaible

plese do buy :(

please buy

I Dont Want To Look At our Original Post :shock: So Tell Me What An Evolution Class Is

a combination of a VLS and a battleship for 1.3 billion.

don't forget you're supporting a good cause!

We would like 4 MIL-1s and 4 Mil-2s please, for 220 million shuriken (1 shuriken=1 dollar).

order confirmed. The NiL-3 and the Titan class are now availible

the MiLs are being shiped. Thank you for your order.

We would like to order 260 MiL-3 planes.

that will be 9.1 billion. I think youc an afford it but your broke now. Order confirmed.

OOC: Yes, that used up my budget for the NS Year (all i'm buying today)

*money wired*

thank you for your order.

any more orders?

Our Trimvirate your order is being shipped

dont forget we have the Titan class

Our Trimvirate your order has arrived.

any more buyers?

the factorys are done all their jobs.

The factorys are gearing up to make the Typhoon and Alpha class subs.

bump

please buy!

please buy

b-u-m-p whats that spell?

Bump!
We wish to buy 2 Untouchables and 1 Evolution, please.

confirmed!

nuking land please stop spamming... anyway order confirmed!

*The money from Cypherland is rerouted to a coreworlds bank, then sent to Lima Beens' account, for security.*

thank you

money received.

I'm like tigger I'm the only Lima Beens

please buy!

bump

we know have Typhoons and Alphas

any buyers?

cant someone buy

b-u-m-p!

please buy

i bump too much

I have a couple of hints for you that may help you sell better. First of all, you need more specifications for your aircraft. You also need realistic altitudes... the max sustained altitude these days is 85,000 ft or so. the absolute altitude records is 123 or 125,000. Most fighters only get near 40,000. Some cruise near 60,000 or so. Also, get more facts about what you are selling. Make it somewhat original. We can all jsut go find someone who renames their stuff. Also, your A-10 improvement... to carry the A-10s load, armor and a 4" cannon... you have to be packing more frame than that. That's a 101.6 mm cannon you are talking about...ie the size of a tank's main gun. And there is no way on earth it's going to fly at Mach 2 with all of that on it. People aren't buying because it's not all that realistic. There are people in NS who are willing to go for something with speed but realize it can't be all that armored. Range is cut down, etc. Do more research before you just start slinging stats.

thank you

agnosticium we did the changes

10 of each for the 3 jets-30 jets.
total purchase:900 million USD
money wired upon confirmation
thank you

planes sent

planes sent

any more orders?

soon more things will be availible

2 mil

what Sparten?

5 mil-2s

I will buy a typhoon class and a untouchable class ships. Money is being sent with complementry slaves. Congrats on your RPing skills.
King theoden of Aust
Lord of Slaves
Drag the waters of life.

ships wired

sorry sparten, order confirmed

Minsk and Volga class added

Greetings from North Germania. We would like to purchase the following:

100 MiL-1 Fighter Jets for $2.5 billion. Money wired. Thank you.

- Armed Korps of North Germania -

order confirmed they will arrive in 6 months

don't forget we have Minsks

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After the sucsusful launch of the LBS Untouchable the ship is for sale. The Untouchable class has 80 anti ICBM SM-2 weapons that can intercept missiles and planes, even stealth ones do to infared up to 250 kilometers away. Although for the stealth ones you'll have to wait for 20 kilometers. Also on board are two nuclear reactors that push the ship to 25 knots. It aslo has 20 Tomahock tubes, 2 triple 16 inch gun implacments, with another 6 16 inch guns. Its other weapons include, 24 fast firing 10 inch guns. The ship is 243 meters and 87 centimeters long and 50 meters and 67 centimeters wide. Its displacemnt is 87,287 tons. It has 20 anti torpedo torpedo tubes, capable of taking out enemy torpedos. The ship has 15 inch armour. Requires a crew of 2275 drrafties, and 78 officers. One can nearly defend and entire fleet from missile attack. Or 5 can defend a fleet against torpedos and almost all missiles. They are also good offensive weapons, and will make the battleship true again.
In recent tests, 250 ICBMs were fired at it and nearly all were taken out outside 100 miles, of the ship.
Price: 1.5 billion

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The Evolution class battlelauncher is the first battlelauncher ever its first 100 meters of ship are pur battleship then theres another 100 meters where theres 200 VSL tubes followed by 75 meters of battleship. The ship is poered by 2 nuclear reactors that push the ship to 22 knots. The ship has 19 inch armour and it has 6 18 inch guns and 10 16 inch guns. The crew is 1985 enlisties and 67 officers. It is a new type of ship that can cause vast amounts of damage to a ship before it comes into range of the guns than it can finish them with its guns. It is the evoltuion class battlelauncher
pirce: 1.3 billion.
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Titan Class Torpedo Boat. A small torpedo boat with 4 forward torpedo tubes, a Titan-1a super presurised gas turbine. Capable of 35 knots can be devistating against fleets. It has a crew of 52 enlistees and 3 officers. Its 27 meters long and 5 meters wider.
Price: 35 million
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The Typhoon class SSBM
The Typhoon class was a ballistic missile submarine made by the soviet navy and was the biggest submarine ever built. It was a devistain 175 meters long, and could sink to a depth of 400 mters. It was so amazing that it oculd launch its missiles from port and hit the U.S.! It carries 20 SLBM with up to 200 nuclear warheads. Its displacment is 24,500 tons, and can reach 27 knots. Its engines are 2 nuclear reactors. The ship has a crew of 45 enlisties and 45 officers. It holds 20 SLBMs being 2x10
Price: 2.3 billion
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The Alpha class SBM
The fastest submarine ever built it can reach devistating speeds of 43 knots, but this time it has a reworked reactor a record that should last for a long while. It has a displacment of 2300 tons, and has a crew total 76. Even though it has only one nuclear reactor. The Alpha class is more than a match for the L.A. class.
Price: 1.4 billion
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/alfa-DNSC8704339.JPG

Minsk class SSBM, an updated Typhoon class, it has 135 SLBMs being 3x15 or 1.5 times as wide and long as they typhoon class. It has two pressurized nuclear reactors, that pressurize the power to increase power. It has 4 633mm torpedo tubes, and has a crew of 78 officers and 118 enlisties. Its only dowside is a high matnince cost.
Price: 3.4 billion

Volga class attack aub
An updated Alpha class with a menacing 6,700 ton displacment and one super preasurzed nuclear reator, capable of sending this beauty to 55 knots, with 6 forward 633mm topedo tubes, 4 backword, 8 on each side and tons of counter measures. It has a crew of 17 officers and 58 enlisties, its only downside is its high matnince cost.
Price: 2.3 billion
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The MiL-1 is now availible it is a plane thats designed to fly at only 50 feet, it is bassiclly a better A-10, it has a 2 inch cannon as well as 10 hardpoints. It flys at mach 1.3 and is quite hard to shoot down or even detect on on radar. It has a crew of one.
Price: 25 million
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/tornado-frg-19990531-f-0073c-005.jpg

The MiL-2 a superhigh altitude attacker/figheter. Desgined to fly at 100,000 feet, it is one of a kind and very hard to shoot down. It flys a mach 2.5 it is designed to carry 8 hardpoints with air to air missiles and 10,000 pounds of internal bombs. It can bomb its target and defend its self in a dog fight. Some thing planes haven't been able to do for 50 years! Crew: 1
Price: 30 million
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/jas2.jpg

MiL-3 a plane with one purpose to take out B-1s, B-2s, F-117s, and B-52s. A intercepter capable of up to 100,000 feet it has a crew of tow, one to man the super advanced infared and rader, and one to be the pilot. It can detect even stealth planes 20 kilometers awar, and can easly kill them. It has a meanising 14 hard points 6 internal 8 external. Also it has a 4 inch cannon and can go to mach 2.9 do to its two Titan-2b advanced turobofan engines that have turbojets in the middle to increase poower. It can easilly take out a B-2 costing 800 million. Buy them today
Price: 35 million
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/mig-31-DDST8809319_JPG.jpg

please buy!

please buy

Im not sure if I've mentioned this.. but the Alfa sub was a bad sub..

I reworked the reacotr...... plus it can go at 40 knots!

any other complains

Heh, as did we. If you care to explain how you fixed the Liquid metal drive, please do.

we didn't put in that reacotr we put in a brand new one.. expensive but it did its job

well that makes no sense. The liquid metal drive is what made it go 44kts.

We know the new reactor has two.. one liquid metal for when it has to go fast and one standard, works like a charm

no you didn't know that. You just said all you did was replace it. You just made the sub heavier, and take away space within the submarine.

so we took space our forces will have to live with it :D do to the extra weight it could proally only go at 38 instead of 44 knots

please buy

Mind explaining how you got something that large to reach speeds of 55 knots? I caught flak for making a fast attack minisub capable of 55 knots, so how the hell did you get a full sized sub to go that fast?

ooc: the moment I saw who had posted most recently I knew it wouldn't be an order

ic: we did it by taking a liquid metal reactor that could reach 40 knots(it also has a reagular one for when it doesn't want to go so fast) and then squeeed the steam down so that it would have more power.

ooc: ok, this site has not been used for a very long while so it's back please buy!

all prices down by 50%!

now with the MiL-4!