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OOC: Before I write this, let me say that your involvement here will not get you the Colossus's plans, or a Colossus of your own. Just wanted you to know.

IC:

As many of you may know, in a recent conflict with the nation of Arbra our Flagship, the Colossus, was destroyed. The Colossus was the largest and most powerful ship we had ever constructed. It took us nearly 20 years to construct, had a crew of over 30,000, and had more power than most Klonor Battlegroups.

We are now a much weakened nation (Before anybody decides on a quick annexation, we do still have some really nasty defenses set up. I say BRING IT ON!) and the remainder of our fleet is without visible leadership or an inspiring symbol. We need something to unite the members of the armed forces, and to give hope to the masses.

We now ask that the members of the Galaxy add their construction facilities to ours so that we may, together, construct a new and better Colossus. With the combined resources of the Galaxy we hope to finish the new Colossus within a decade, rather than the 20 years the original took.

We cannot give you the schematics for the Colossus, or allow you to construct one for yourselves, but are willing to compensate you for all expenses, as well as give each helping nation a "Package Fleet" of their own (see my store thread for details). Also, each nation shall be given an S.S.S (Sub-Space Signaller) that will have a direct link to the new Colossus. Signal with the S.S.S. and the Colossus will be instantly allerted, coming to the resuce with any help it can, hopefully giving back a little of what you have given us.

This is of vital importance. Please, help us.


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Duke Solomon Klonor
Founder: Galactic Alliance
Founder: Inter-Stellar Alliance Organization (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82472)
Member: Extra-Solar Union of Systems (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82439)
Member: StarCon Space Treaty Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81934)
Member: The New Jewish Alliance
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we'll help. we donate 10,000 laborers.

If theres any projects the small,technogically backwards and war weaken commonwealth of Wintrees can do to assist in the construction of this new warship we would be glad to help, although we are probably limited to welding...

Hey, even 6 km. long starships need welders. Your're welcome to come aboard.

Klonor... you shoulda TMed me, I'll rebuild it for free since we're allied through multiple alliances. My shipyards will get on it as soon as you send some designers over my way to tell us what to do :wink: 'course if you don't want me to do that...

We will help you rebuild your ship but for the help we request 15,000 marines to be stationed on that ship at all times! All of the marines are trained as engineers and pilots. We can provide up to 15 Trillion on any project but does not mean you'll get more that a couple billion. We can also give 4,500 highly trained ship builders!

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Victor Lenin II
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Member of Starcon

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Where was I when this happened?

LRR, I'm sorry but we can not allow you to station 15,000 marines on the ship. Besides the fact that there is nowhere near enough room, we don't station other nations militaries on our ships.

And were you in France?

Klonor, we still consider ourselves your allies... we would love to help you make a new flagship... but as with any case of a supercruiser.. we protest this construction of this oversized vessel. It serves no purpose, no supercraft ever does. This design has far more Cons than pros. We refuse to donate any funds or technology unless you can prove that this ship is worthy of the Glorious name of Klonor of which we consider friendly. We do not want to see funds wasted on just a large target that serves no purpose.

Supply a purpose and we will be glad to donate, if not... well, you can always come to us for a design.

whoops :oops: error
1500 and whos LRR? :wink:

LRR, I'm sorry but we can not allow you to station 15,000 marines on the ship. Besides the fact that there is nowhere near enough room, we don't station other nations militaries on our ships.

And were you in France?

When did I say that?

LRR, I'm sorry but we can not allow you to station 15,000 marines on the ship. Besides the fact that there is nowhere near enough room, we don't station other nations militaries on our ships.

And were you in France?

When did I say that?He meant LoA (Craterdude)

Besides the morale boost and visible symbol, it is also very efficient militarily.

In one ship we have the firepower of an entire battle group. It provides quick responses to threats and almost instantaneous reaction to unforseen events, whereas if we sent individual smaller ships it would take hours to get them all there, co-ordinate, etc.

It can performs almost any role singlehandedly. Unlike most huge ships (which just have a bunch of "super death cannons") this ship also has anti-fighter guns, support ships, etc.

Also, the Colossus is not an oversized vessel. It is 6 km. in length, most space nations have mainstream capitals ships (as in there are many of them and are produced on a regular basis) much larger than that.

I'll give an example of Colossus use.

There is a two pronged attack on Klonor systems. One group attacks the base at Gamma Draconis. Most of our ships are there (it's a base), and are thus engaged at Gamma Draconis. However, another fleet attacks the Deneb system. Now, the ships at Gamma Draconis are in the middle of a pitched battle, and are set up in formation so that each ship can perform its role. To remove a significant number of ships to defend Deneb would eave massive gaps in the fleet and allow for massive casualties. However, if we just sent the Colossus to Deneb, it would have the firepower of a battle group and be able to defend the system, and the ships at Gamma Draconis would be able to stay there.

One more point: I just love that ship and being able to say "Yeah, well I bet my Colossus could kick your flagships ass!"

LRR, I'm sorry but we can not allow you to station 15,000 marines on the ship. Besides the fact that there is nowhere near enough room, we don't station other nations militaries on our ships.

And were you in France?

When did I say that?He meant LoA (Craterdude)

Oh. But anyhows, Klonor, we will let you use our drive yards in orbit above LRRSV Europa II.

LRR, I'm sorry but we can not allow you to station 15,000 marines on the ship. Besides the fact that there is nowhere near enough room, we don't station other nations militaries on our ships.

And were you in France?

When did I say that?

Sorry, mis-wrote. I meant LoA (Land of Ages) but wrote LRR (Lunatic Retarded Robots) instead. LRR had the more recent post, and I guess the letters were on my mind.

Besides the morale boost and visible symbol, it is also very efficient militarily.

In one ship we have the firepower of an entire battle group. It provides quick responses to threats and almost instantaneous reaction to unforseen events, whereas if we sent individual smaller ships it would take hours to get them all there, co-ordinate, etc.

It can performs almost any role singlehandedly. Unlike most huge ships (which just have a bunch of "super death cannons") this ship also has anti-fighter guns, support ships, etc.

Also, the Colossus is not an oversized vessel. It is 6 km. in length, most space nations have mainstream capitals ships (as in there are many of them and are produced on a regular basis) much larger than that.

I'll give an example of Colossus use.

There is a two pronged attack on Klonor systems. One group attacks the base at Gamma Draconis. Most of our ships are there (it's a base), and are thus engaged at Gamma Draconis. However, another fleet attacks the Deneb system. Now, the ships at Gamma Draconis are in the middle of a pitched battle, and are set up in formation so that each ship can perform its role. To remove a significant number of ships to defend Deneb would eave massive gaps in the fleet and allow for massive casualties. However, if we just sent the Colossus to Deneb, it would have the firepower of a battle group and be able to defend the system, and the ships at Gamma Draconis would be able to stay there.

One more point: I just love that ship and being able to say "Yeah, well I bet my Colossus could kick your flagships ass!"

Hey! The Emancipator has both anti-caps and anti-fighter weapons, but considering that LRR battle doctrine necessitates lots of small, fast, hard-to-hit ships, a vessel the size of the Colossus would be very slowing to our battle movements. The Emancipators are on the whole smaller, and I believe they accellerate faster. Hey have firepower to be reckoned with, enough so that the number of them in a horde would be quite formidable, but they are quite lacking in armor compared to the colossus.

i will donate 10,000 laborers, and our luck in rebuilding such a "collosal(might not have spelt that right, ignore the spelling)" flagship.

LRR, I never meant that your ships didn't have anti-fighter guns.

The Colossus has a top speed of 1 light-year per minute, would you really be slowed that much? :lol:

Hmm... well, all I can say is, Capsule Corporation runs perfectly with our efficient Cap ships. True, a uber-destroyer does have a lot of firepower and a lot of consolidation, but it also makes a big targets. 3 of my cap ships could easily equal it's firepower, and tenfold it's defensive abilities.

Take our largest ship, for example, the Kryptonite (Soon to be replaced, outdated)
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At only 800 meters long, this ship is as maneuverable as any Federation Starship, and as powerful as most super star destroyers. This ship alone could take on your "Collosus" (sp) and take it out with ease, without even deploying any of its support craft.

I strongly recommend getting over this "Morale Symbol" phase of yours and going with Practicality and Shear Power, not that fear crap that SSDs etc impose.

LRR, I never meant that your ships didn't have anti-fighter guns.

The Colossus has a top speed of 1 light-year per minute, would you really be slowed that much? :lol:

I meant in real space, not FTL. All LRR ships (for the sake of RP decency) have a speed of about 1ly/2.8min. Cap ships, such as carriers and battlecruisers, as well as destroyers and mobile shipyards, can make long jumps, but smaller ships usually need to ride the h-space waveform of the larger ships to get a decent distance.

Capsule Corporation has researched, and is now testing, a Cascading Hyperspace Fold Drive... folding hyperspace in short jumps. It's rated the fastest thing wer have, and has worked so far, at a CC record speed of 1200 ly/h (Umm... let's see... 20 Ly per minute?)

Not to brag or anything, just saying.

Capsule Corporation has researched, and is now testing, a Cascading Hyperspace Fold Drive... folding hyperspace in short jumps. It's rated the fastest thing wer have, and has worked so far, at a CC record speed of 1200 ly/h (Umm... let's see... 20 Ly per minute?)

Not to brag or anything, just saying.

CC, let me just say that the Super Star Destroyers from Star Wars are in no way equal to my Colossus. (Boy, don't I sound egotisitcal. However, I have spent a very long time on compairsons of strength, speed, shield technology, etc.) The SSD's would, in fact, be easily killed by an Orion class Destroyer, my main capital ship of 2.1 kilometers and of which the Colossus overpowers by a factor of 5.

If your Kryptonite equals an SSD, then you have a ship that is vastly inferior to almost all the space navies out there. (Sorry, but while I love SW more than anybody else on this forum, their weapons tech and methods are not that powerful)

I think you should find a better ship to compare it to, since I know your ships are better than that.

Back to the Colossus, you said that it makes a huge target. Well, it also sports defensive technology beyond anything in the Klonor Empire. Equipped with energy absorbtion armor, break through hull plates, our newest shield technology (which uses a special dimmer function to deflect almost all laser based weapons), etc. it can take more of a beating than it could give itself.

anyone here a fellow star trek fan??

Pssh, Please, I meant an ECLIPSE class Super star destroyer ;) The one that has 1000 Guns and a million fighters and a superlaser and totals up at 11 miles long :P

Yeah, that powerful :P

Maybe we should run a simulated contest between the two starships? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

anyone here a fellow star trek fan??me! but Star Trek Tech is sooo overrated :P So i have star-trek sized ships, with Star Wars Weaponry, and Robotech power, and Robotech Big guns and shields :P oh, and Robtoech FTLs

Oh, and well i guess I have Star Trek Shields now, thanks to Xanthal.

Truth is, I made up ALL my tech, and I get inspired by nearly every sci-fi.

anyone here a fellow star trek fan??me! but Star Trek Tech is sooo overrated :P So i have star-trek sized ships, with Star Wars Weaponry, and Robotech power, and Robotech Big guns and shields :P oh, and Robtoech FTLs

Oh, and well i guess I have Star Trek Shields now, thanks to Xanthal.

Truth is, I made up ALL my tech, and I get inspired by nearly every sci-fi.hey, i forgot, does star trek come on on the weekend? if so, what time and what station?

Have you seen my Starship/Battleship comparison? If you read that, I think it will explain everything.

And my Colossus would beat the Ecplise (your ship would beat the Eclpise, easily. Most peoples flagships could.) This is not just me being egotistical, I have actually spent hours upon hours working out the equivelants in firepower and other stuff. SW tech is not good for combat ships.

OOC: Before I write this, let me say that your involvement here will not get you the Colossus's plans, or a Colossus of your own. Just wanted you to know.

IC:

As many of you may know, in a recent conflict with the nation of Arbra our Flagship, the Colossus, was destroyed. The Colossus was the largest and most powerful ship we had ever constructed. It took us nearly 20 years to construct, had a crew of over 30,000, and had more power than most Klonor Battlegroups.

We are now a much weakened nation (Before anybody decides on a quick annexation, we do still have some really nasty defenses set up. I say BRING IT ON!) and the remainder of our fleet is without visible leadership or an inspiring symbol. We need something to unite the members of the armed forces, and to give hope to the masses.

We now ask that the members of the Galaxy add their construction facilities to ours so that we may, together, construct a new and better Colossus. With the combined resources of the Galaxy we hope to finish the new Colossus within a decade, rather than the 20 years the original took.

We cannot give you the schematics for the Colossus, or allow you to construct one for yourselves, but are willing to compensate you for all expenses, as well as give each helping nation a "Package Fleet" of their own (see my store thread for details). Also, each nation shall be given an S.S.S (Sub-Space Signaller) that will have a direct link to the new Colossus. Signal with the S.S.S. and the Colossus will be instantly allerted, coming to the resuce with any help it can, hopefully giving back a little of what you have given us.

This is of vital importance. Please, help us.


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Duke Solomon Klonor
Founder: Galactic Alliance
Founder: Inter-Stellar Alliance Organization (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82472)
Member: Extra-Solar Union of Systems (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82439)
Member: StarCon Space Treaty Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81934)
Member: The New Jewish Alliance
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The nation of N. Encarta has not understood how this has happend

Have you seen my Starship/Battleship comparison? If you read that, I think it will explain everything.

And my Colossus would beat the Ecplise (your ship would beat the Eclpise, easily. Most peoples flagships could.) This is not just me being egotistical, I have actually spent hours upon hours working out the equivelants in firepower and other stuff. SW tech is not good for combat ships.*slap slap slap* pay attention! I said the FirePower of the Eclipse, The Maneuverability of a Starfleet Ship, the Defensive strength of a Large Asteroid, the FTL Speed of an SDF, the fighter capacity of Half a carrier, and an uncomparable Infragability rating (Meaning you can beat it up really bad, and it won't randomly blow up, you would have to vaporize it to get it to be destroyed.

And all this, without godmodding!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

My ship tech is borrowed from many sources. There's homeworld, Homeworld 2, random musings, other NS'ers, and stuff I think up.

Pay attention to what I'm saying, you just described the Colossus exactly. Everything that you just said fits precisely with what I have always said about the Colossus. How is the Colossus not an excellent ship? I'm not saying it's the best, but you seem fixed on the notion that it's just a giant death gun that is uneconomical, unefficient, easy to destroy, and pointless. I like you, but you have yet to support any of your statements.

Frankly, I'm tired of discussing this. This is a thread meant to get people to lend me support. If you think the Colossus is a bad ship, fine, but don't say it.

N.E., what don't you understand?

While the Empire is not able to, or willing to, provide funds for such a project, we would like to know where you get your pictures. :)

By the way, the intellectual level of this converstation has dropped to that of a second grader (oh yeah? well, MY battle crusier is A BUHZZILION times bigger than yours, so there! phhhhhh!). I suggest you get your act together.

Grand Emperor Yoshi

One more point: I just love that ship and being able to say "Yeah, well I bet my Colossus could kick your flagships ass!"

I never said I didn't have the maturity of a second grader :lol:

I get my pictures from the FreeSpace video games. You can find the pics at www.volition-inc.com/fs and at www.freespace2.com

LRR will contribuite 300 constructor suits as well as engineers.

Ssakura will lend you 1,000 of our highly trained shipbuilders, and 10 billion dollars in support.



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Pay attention to what I'm saying, you just described the Colossus exactly. Everything that you just said fits precisely with what I have always said about the Colossus. How is the Colossus not an excellent ship? I'm not saying it's the best, but you seem fixed on the notion that it's just a giant death gun that is uneconomical, unefficient, easy to destroy, and pointless. I like you, but you have yet to support any of your statements.

Frankly, I'm tired of discussing this. This is a thread meant to get people to lend me support. If you think the Colossus is a bad ship, fine, but don't say it.

N.E., what don't you understand?Well.. then there's one big difference... size and maneuverability! The kryptonite is 1/10th its size, and has rouighly the same abilities, but including speed.

good lord Klonor, answer my question! do you want me to build it for you for free? If yes, send some designers to my planet, if no, tell me (I'm TGing you this too)

Klonor, I will help fund the rebuilding of your ship. I will begin by giving you 100,000,000 credits. *Sending Credits* Please, only use this for rebuilding of ur ship.

I will build the colossus for free. (For myself :D )

*sigh* The Mundanstraat, pride of the Thunderstraat Navy and stolen from a former GA member, could probably disable your Colossus in a fair fight. Plus it could run away better than anything you've got; we have an alliance with hyperspace beings that can accelerate our ships to a maximum speed of one lightyear every ten seconds, even though that would destroy our ships in less than half an hour.

*sigh* The Mundanstraat, pride of the Thunderstraat Navy and stolen from a former GA member, could probably disable your Colossus in a fair fight. Plus it could run away better than anything you've got; we have an alliance with hyperspace beings that can accelerate our ships to a maximum speed of one lightyear every ten seconds, even though that would destroy our ships in less than half an hour.

You are, like, a week old. How do you have this kind of tech? In your country, it should still be considered uncool to listen to MIDI clips of operas in your spare time.

*Is disgusted at the primitiveness of Thunderstraatian culture.*

I bet you don't even have MIDI files yet.

Tisk Tisk :roll:

*sigh* The Mundanstraat, pride of the Thunderstraat Navy and stolen from a former GA member, could probably disable your Colossus in a fair fight. Plus it could run away better than anything you've got; we have an alliance with hyperspace beings that can accelerate our ships to a maximum speed of one lightyear every ten seconds, even though that would destroy our ships in less than half an hour.hahahahahahahahahaha, can't.........stop.................laughing..............at...................stupid................ .warmongering..............hahahahahaha......................nooooooooooob.....................hahah ahahahahahahaa. there is not WAy YOU WILL PROBABLY EVER beat the COLLOSUS, maybe in a few months. bwagaghahaha :lol:

*sigh* The Mundanstraat, pride of the Thunderstraat Navy and stolen from a former GA member, could probably disable your Colossus in a fair fight. Plus it could run away better than anything you've got; we have an alliance with hyperspace beings that can accelerate our ships to a maximum speed of one lightyear every ten seconds, even though that would destroy our ships in less than half an hour.hahahahahahahahahaha, can't.........stop.................laughing..............at...................stupid................ .warmongering..............hahahahahaha......................nooooooooooob.....................hahah ahahahahahahaa. there is not WAy YOU WILL PROBABLY EVER beat the COLLOSUS, maybe in a few months. bwagaghahaha :lol:Arbra did...

*sigh* The Mundanstraat, pride of the Thunderstraat Navy and stolen from a former GA member, could probably disable your Colossus in a fair fight. Plus it could run away better than anything you've got; we have an alliance with hyperspace beings that can accelerate our ships to a maximum speed of one lightyear every ten seconds, even though that would destroy our ships in less than half an hour.


Wow, that has to be one of the most obvious and idiotic displays of godmoding I've seen this month. I'm impressed.

Klonor, if you still need any help rebuilding, just tell me what you need. Money, laborers, parts, materials, you name it and I'll send it.

*sigh* The Mundanstraat, pride of the Thunderstraat Navy and stolen from a former GA member, could probably disable your Colossus in a fair fight. Plus it could run away better than anything you've got; we have an alliance with hyperspace beings that can accelerate our ships to a maximum speed of one lightyear every ten seconds, even though that would destroy our ships in less than half an hour.hahahahahahahahahaha, can't.........stop.................laughing..............at...................stupid................ .warmongering..............hahahahahaha......................nooooooooooob.....................hahah ahahahahahahaa. there is not WAy YOU WILL PROBABLY EVER beat the COLLOSUS, maybe in a few months. bwagaghahaha :lol:Arbra did...no IM TALKING ABOUT THIS NOOB WHO THINKS HE CAN BEAT IT, NOT ABRA.

The nation of Taka, in a year of economic prosperity has decided to donate two of our quantum singularity generators to your cause. The most powerful generator we have come across, it harnesse the power of a black hole to convert matter into pure energy, the only thing left a small amount of anti-matter, which can then be used in a matter/anti-matter generator to provide additional power. Able to provide not only enough power to keep a Takain Battleship opperational, but also to run two half-million terrawatt lasers for up to three minutes at a time, we belive it will be enough to keep your Collosseus well powered. Should you need a faster method of travel than FTL travel, or Fold generators can allow you to teleport to any known gravity well instantly. The Quantum Singularity Generators have been shiped, and the Takian Engering Guild is on standby should you decide you want our Fold drivers. TG me for details on costs and restriction on the fold drives.

o, klonor, can the ship be rebuilt yet? do you have enough workers, parts, and money yet?

Okay, let me clear a few things up:

1) Arbra killed the Colossus because we were having on hell of a battle (Arbra is, or was, Sniper Country's space colony). He was leaving space and we were just blwoing the hell out of each other (I won. Blew up his entire space fleet and then conquered and destroyed his planet. YAY FOR ME!)

2) Blademasters, I HAVE RESPONDED. I keep saying no, and you never seem to have gotten my message.

3) That idiot who said he could kill the Colossus has been idioting it up for a while. He posted it in my storethread, said that all the members of the ESUS could easily be killed by him, and some other stuff. I say we just ignore him, or blow the hell out of him.

4) Everybody who's been sending me money and technology, thanks a lot. However, I have enough already. What I really need are actual ship building facilities, since the reason the Colossus takes 20 years to build is because the parts take so long to build. If I have somebody building the Beam Cannons, and another person manufacturing the armor, and a third person building the engines, then it will get finished a lot more quickly. I know there's a big difference between sending help to build something and actually building it, but that's what I need. If you guys want to take back some of your donations, I understand.

Guanyu will begin making Beam cannons en masse for the restoration of this fine ship. Also, armor plating will be developed at the same time and shipped to whomever does the primary armor production. We are glad to be of assistance.

Wow, that's some spy system you've got going there. I haven't even given you the specs on the Beam Cannons and you're already making them. :lol:

I'll have the tech boys send you over a copy if the plans. Also, there are only 12 on the whole ship, not enough for an "en masse" production.

CC, let me just say that the Super Star Destroyers from Star Wars are in no way equal to my Colossus. (Boy, don't I sound egotisitcal. However, I have spent a very long time on compairsons of strength, speed, shield technology, etc.) The SSD's would, in fact, be easily killed by an Orion class Destroyer, my main capital ship of 2.1 kilometers and of which the Colossus overpowers by a factor of 5.

If your Kryptonite equals an SSD, then you have a ship that is vastly inferior to almost all the space navies out there. (Sorry, but while I love SW more than anybody else on this forum, their weapons tech and methods are not that powerful)


Actually, the heavy turbolasers on an outdated transport are rated at 200 gigatons. Lucasfilm canon policy is that something is canon until contradicted directly by a movie. I will point out again the part about the ship being a troop transport, the Acclamator. Consider then what a ship meant for fleet combat and planetary bombardment is capable of, like an ISD. That's backed up by several books which refer to BDZ operations, in which an ISD commences a 24 hr orbital bombardmen of a planet, turning its surface into a sea of magma about 1 kilometer deep.

I have some Orions and I am building from the beam cannons on those. If the specs for these cannons are different, I will change them. Given the limited number of beam cannons, I will begin full-on armor manufacture once the cannons are done.

The Beam Cannons on the Colossus are an advanced, heavier version. Capable of recharging faster, targeting more precisely, and shooting much more powerful energy, they make the Orion guns look pathetic by comparison (The C equals more than 5 Orions, even though it has less than even three times the amount of guns.)

I have sent the plans.

I'm getting right on it. The beam cannons should be done inside a month or two (assume 3-4 days RL). Armor may take a while for a ship that size, but I will get it to you as soon as I can.

The armor on the Colossus is built in break away sections connected to pressure sensors and covered in a recently developed energy absorbtion metal. I'll build that, the Beams should give you enough to work on.

klonor, how long is the collosus in km?

The Colossus is 6.25 km. long.

Several pirate captains take great interested in this.

The Colossus is 6.25 km. long. :shock: oops, mine is way to big then. i will lower my capital/flag ships size to about 7km. is that a good size for it? i'm not going to build another flag ship for a WHILE.

Klonor, as an Ally and a friend, Indra Prime will do what we can to see that the Colossus is brought back up to fighting status. We will send some of our best ship designers and field construction workers to assist you in construction of your new ship. If wished, we will also supply you with some of our unique technology that we have offered to very few others (who are now our Allies). We will need the Colossus in the future, not Indra Prime, but it would be useful to have its assistance in the ESUS. We will also provide funds to get it back up and running. Just tell us what you need.

Indra Prime Senior Directorate

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The first two beam cannons have been completed. We have sent them to you so you can determine whether they are properly made. If you have any problems with them tell me and I will have my engineers fix them. If there are no problems with them, the rest should be completed fairly soon.

The Colossus is 6.25 km. long. :shock: oops, mine is way to big then. i will lower my capital/flag ships size to about 7km. is that a good size for it? i'm not going to build another flag ship for a WHILE.

Lemme just say that size has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the ship. I've seen people with ships 150 km long (and it wasn't godmodding, they'd really worked on it) that have been beaten by ships only in the 500 meter range. Decide what your ship needs (X number of laser guns, Y number of fighters, etc.) and then figure out how big it would need to be to have all it. Make it quality, not quantity.

P.S. If your ship is the ship I'm thinking of (I read so many descriptions they all blur together) then it seems just fine.

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IP, we of the Klonor Empire greatly appreciate your offerings, but we don't need any technology right now (I managed to scam enough off the GA back when it existed). What we do need is help in the actual construction. Any construction workers and ship building machinery that you could offer would be received with open arms.

OOC: Guanyu - are the beam cannons being SHIPPED their via space?

Don't even think about it. These will be guarded (unlike the Harbingers), and I would LOVE to see your wannabe space fleet get trashed by a few of my Orions.


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Of course, a shot from the gorgons EM cannon would disable an Orion. Too bad they take 10min to recharge :(. That reminds me, in the other thread, just say what happens to the Leviathan from the EM shot.

So you're GP! And I already posted

And the thread seems to have disappeared. I can't find it, even when I do a search. Got a link?

One of our construction fleets is on the way to assist you. The things we offer to the Alliance is also open for you to purchase.

We thank you. Your nation shall also receive an S.S.S. for your donations.

Galactic Pirates, the cannons are being shipped via space travel but are guarded by two Orions I purachased from Klonor as well as three of my own Scimitar-Class Warships, which are the approximate equivalent of two orions when their firepower is added together.

EDIT: Forgot the fighters. Each Scimitar carries a complement of 120 bombers and 360 fighters.

The hull of the ship is 30% complete, with the interior systems and equipment almsot 70% installed.

Klonor-

We extended aid to you when you asked before, and we wish you to know we will extend any further aid you require in this case. As previously stated, we only ask that you provide for transportation, and help ARgyres with its own space program when it chooses to leave the confines of this planet and reach out for the stars.

May the Lord look kindly upon your efforts.

King Nikos II
Ruler, Holy Republic of Argyres

If you will visit my store thread, I'm sure you will find any and all ships that you require for your journey into space. If you wish to manufacture your own ships rather than becoming dependant upon another by buying them, we could arrange for a technology exchange. Simply let me know what you need.


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Do the Heavy Beam Cannons meet with your approval Klonor? I need to know whether I can ship the rest of them as they are completed.

They meet with the approval of the Subach Innes Board of Directors, we are awaiting their arrival.

We'd be willing to donate a scaled down version of our point-defence system, including power adapters, turrets, cannons, targeting AI, weapon subsystems, and high-gain FTL sensors(effective range is just over a light second in radius); specify the power avalible that you're willing to dedicate to the guns(my particle lance can be easily scaled) and number of cannons desired, and if you place them properly, you should have a fighter and missile kill-zone a light-second across around your ship(again, provided you can get enough power to the guns to kill them).

And as a bonous, they'll be constructed out of one of our Sub-Atomic Particle Lattice(tm) varriants, so they'll likly be one of the toughest parts on your ship. All we ask is that you refrain from trying to reverse engineer anything; we'll provide spare parts and do any major maintaince you need for free, aside from that it'll be a clearly labled 'plug and play' type system.

EDIT: as in, you can just slip worn parts out and replacment parts in, turn it on, and it'll do the rest. Modular systems and all that.

Oh, and the AI is just a regular computer. Nothing that's going to become self-aware on you; it's far too limited in scope.

The Incorporated States of Argheraal wish to contribute to the projet.

Our orbital factory, the "Vulcanus Forge" can manufacture the required electronics needed for the ship, just send us tech details of what is needed.
http://www.3dshop.com/Gallery/SCI-FI/106S.jpg

Our four mining ships will help provide required minerals and ores form the asteroid belt.
http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/somtaaw/command_ship3.gif

Also, "Vulcanus Forge" could help manufacture the armor plating for the new Colossus.

Matthew Steel Saberhagen
President
Incorporated States of Argheraal.

As we have recieved approval, another six Beam Cannons have been sent. The remaining four should be done soon and will be sent immediately upon completion.

we don't need any technology right now (I managed to scam enough off the GA back when it existed). What we do need is help in the actual construction. Any construction workers and ship building machinery that you could offer would be received with open arms.

Kanuckistan, we thank you for the tech donations, but we don't really need it.

I know, but most aspects are already covered, and I figured that if I was going to help you build something for your flagship, I might as well give you something better if I have it.

And we're not donating the tech, just the systems.

Klonor-

If you will kindly provide transport, we have found another 5,000 volunteers willing ot help with manual labor. In addition, we have large amounts of several minerals (OOC: whichever ones you need, i'm foggy on ship construction) for your use.

After we have resolved another situation, we will explore your store, we thank you for your help.

Dimitri Tsanakas
Argyri Foreign Minister

i think this will help... 200 of each...

Servent/Body Guard 'bots
http://www.angelfire.com/art/embil/robots.jpg

the "wasp" 300 Series Multi-Purpose Construction Bot
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/karma0/images/catbot.jpg
Height: 16 feet, Weight: 2.5 tons, capable of lifting up to 1 ton, the 300 Series MPCB is perfect for construction requirements and comes equiped with surveying sensors and built in Plasma Welding equipment. the MPCB is Very low mainence and uses Modular components as much as possible. Requires 30 minutes of chargeing for every hour on the job.

the "Fix-it" 250 Series Utility Drone
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/karma0/images/250utillity.jpg
Height: 5-9 feet, Weight: 0.86 tons, Its all well and good to have large amounts of machinery running around, but what if one of them needs an upgrade or is damaged? obviously it would require alot of effort to transport move a 16 foot behemouth from the center of a crater so thats why we created the utility droid. these wondeful little things will make sure everything is in running order and if theres a problem they cant fix, it will contacct the appropriate Human professional!

and zare too... tell us how much you need

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Bob, thanks for the Wasps and Fix-its, but I have no real use for the bodyguard dudes (I've got an exclusive contract with someone else, I only buy his combat bots and he knocks a couple zeros off the price)

they're good for... ... ... building?

Isn't that what the Wasps and Fix-it's are for?

So, would you like a Kanuckistani high-end point-defence system instead of building a less potent system of your own design, or not?

'Cause if you do, I'm going to need the aforementioned data so I can actually build 'em for you.

No thanks, I'll stick with my own stuff (hasn't failed me yet)

Isn't that what the Wasps and Fix-it's are for?

yes...

zare... tell us how much you need(good for hulls)

What is zare?

Zare is an extremely rare mineral that is incredibly strong, supposedly. Bob managed to mine a bit off of the Rhetalian planetary body he now owns. (You should look into purchasing a land plot).

The Master Foreman of the "Vulcanus Forge" sits at his command Chair and muses..

You know something Karl?..

What is it Master Foreman?

Turns to look at his Second in command

There's all this building going on.. hull.. armor.. computers.. beam weapons, engines and the gods know what else.. but you know the one thing no-one has thought of yet?..

The Second in Command looks at the Master Foreman trying to guess what he is refering to, but without succes..

No Master Foreman.. i cannot think what could possibly be...

The Master Foreman smiles..

Toilets.. a ship that big is going to need lots of toilets.. after all, you just cant open an airlock and go out to water the grass, now can you?

And i figure a ship that big will need at least fifteen thousand toilets or so..

The second grins and turns to the command console, he types the orders to one of the manufacturing sections into building toilets..


OOC:
A bit of comic relief... :)

I must say, we actually could use a supplier of that specific manufactured good. How much for the plumbing?

The Master Foreman looks at Duke Klonor over the Vid-Screen..

Well, your Lordship, plumbing, cess tanks and a couple of small waste recycling plants are part of the toilet deal, so, no extra expenditure on your part.
I figure that if you are going to give a package fleet to every government that helps you build a Colossus, well.. it more than pays itself..

Dont you think?

Oh, and tell ya what, i'll throw a case of Highland Scotch for your Lordship.
Or some other spirits if i can get it.. [wink/smile]

Thanks a bundle, I was just gonna have my soldiers cross their legs and hold it, but installing some toilets will make everything a lot easier.

the Master Foreman laughs and slaps his thigh..

Not good for morale your Lordship, and soldiers cant fight well while wanting to take a leak..

A beeping sound makes the Master Foreman turn

Well, a new shipment of of prefab bulkheads, corridors and ships' barracks is ready to depart for the new Colossus, i'll send the case of Scotch over with the shipment..
Have a good day your Lordship, it is time to return to work..

The Master Foreman yells a his Seccond in Command.. Yo! Karl.. get a section to manufacture showers.. seven thousand of 'em for the Colossus, they need toilets, they'll need showers too!!..

Screen goes blank

OOC

Well, time to get some sleep.. i'll pick the thread in the morning...

good night all..

The last four Heavy Beam Cannons are complete and on their way to Klonor. If there is anything else you need made in order to reconstruct the Colossus, inform me and I will start working on it right away.

EDIT: Double post.

... i think it needs some borg tech... adaptive shields.. and a regenerating hull... that whould be nice...

It alread has energy absorbtion armor, diffusion shields, and break away plating. What more could borg tech offer it?

... fixing itself?... i don't know...

Yeah....well......(I've got nothing else to say right now, so I fall back onto my backup)

Do you like cheese?

... no...

Chloro-borg Tech enhances the flow of information, and enacts super-efficiency into n AI, or even a human. Shields managed by Chloro-Borg technology could fix themselves, no engineers needed. if a section of shields went down, the other emitters would immediately cover, preventing a hole, while the nanites repaired the sore spot in the emitters. If a circuit is shorted out or broken, then the circuitry is automatically rerouted. With Chloro-Borg technology, circuitry is smart. its no longer just a series of wires and resisters for electricity to flow, it is a supercomplex superhighway of power and information. like the difference between running water through a pipe and running blood through circulatory system

Electircity is no longer power, it is blood.

NOTE: i say Chloroborg, because that is our controlled version of borg technology. Controlled, so that it wont try to eat us and assimilate us :P Bob's borg type tech might work too... but I am unsure. I think so.

All the stuff that you mentioned (Shields switching to cover a hole, rerouting circuitry, etc.) is controlled by independant and advanced A.I. systems. I think we have it covered.

How can this ship be destroyed then if it has all this super powerful stuff?

Karl Jorgenssen, "Vulcanus Forge" second in command looked at the Master Foreman as the last shipment of toilets and showers with all the required plumbing left for the Colossus construction site..

Master Foreman?.. the last shipment is on it's way.. what shall we build next?

The Master Foreman looked at some data on his screen and turned to his seccond in command

Hmmm.. three of our miner ships have sent a sizable amount of processed ore and mineral.. Presses a couple of buttons to call up some information..

Flak Guns.. we will begin flak gun construction, fifteen of them.. with the ore we have we can build five or seven of them.. so while we wait for the arrival of more processed ore we will begin with that..

Very well Master Foreman.. Turns to his own console and sends the orders for the manufacturing sections to begin flak gun construction..

If you still need help, Penguenia's shipyards are always ready to aide, Old Friend.

-Emperor Raziel

How can this ship be destroyed then if it has all this super powerful stuff?

Actually, all my counter arguments are really because I want this to be a pure "Klonor" ship. No outside technology. Since my character IC wouldn't refuse all this excellent and free technology, I'm having it be that we already have everything and it's even better. When I RP the Colossus it will not be as uber powerful as I describe it here.

When do you expect this "monster" to be done by?

It should be done in 5 RL days (5 NS years). Nov. 3'rd (I think). If it was only me it would take another 10 years past the current estimation.

I offered to rebuild it for you, as my puppet Magnus Isle.

Klonor, check your TGs.

Klonor, check your TGs.

Unless your Keebler I haven't gotten any TG's from you.

really? crap. alright I'll re send it to you.

I got it now.

Master Foreman?.. the first seven flak guns for the new Klonor Colossus are ready to be shipped, engineering teams for the instalation worls are waiting the Ready Go signal to depart..

The Master Foreman noded and gave the order over the microphone..

Teams one to seven you are cleared to leave, and make sure you do a good job on installing those guns..

After turning off the microphone and watching with satisfaction the departure of the transports he turned to his second in command..

When will the four miners arrive with the shipments of ore?..

In one hour they will be here Master Foreman.

Good.. we can then begin construction of the remaining flak guns.. get the teams ready to begin work..

Karl turned to his console and issued the apropriate orders..

The last of the Heavy Beam Cannons have arrived at the Klonor Shipyards. Anything else you need?

The incoming shipments have been received from all nations. As of right now there is nothing un-assigned, so you can just relax and think about what you'll do with your free Package Fleet.

Karl came into the mess hall where he found Master Foreman DeWinters eating a large steak with fried potatoes and green salad, he sat oposite from him with a datapad..

Sir? we have completed another four flak guns.. i took the liberty to ship them over to the Colossus construction site.. we have received a new shipment of ores and mineral and we will begin construction of the remaining four flak guns as soon as they finish transferring the ore..

DeWinters just nodded in between mouthfuls of steak
Good lad.. now.. have something to eat.. rest for awhile.. transfer will take a couple of hours at least so take a break..

Yes, sir.. He punches his order on a pad and in a couple of minutes he gets a plate of smoked salmon with baked potatoes covered in mushroom gravy...

We would like to announce the completion of the hull and interior systems of the Colossus. All that remains to be done is the installation of the remaining weapons and the activation of the MiniStar III. We're almost there!

DeWinters and Karl watched from recdec 7 as the last shipment of flak guns left for the new Colossus construction site to be assembled and mounted on the huge ship, the transports slowly gained speed, the Master Foreman took a deep drag of his cigar and let the smoke slowly out..

Another job complete.. a big job at that.. but we made it..

Karl did not take his sight off the transports..

Yes, Sir.. what will be our next assignment now?

Well, if all goes according to schedule with those brains in R&D down planet we will begin construction of the new R-Type fighter..

But meanwhile Karl, we are deserving of a few days rest.. you up for a hand of poker?

The second in command smiles and turns to look at his superior..

Sure thing Ewan, shall i gather the usual bunch?

Yep.. meet you all in recdec 2 in one hour..

DeWinters turns and leaves recdec 7 heading to his quarters..

Beam Cannons and Flak Guns fully installed. Final 13 Laser Turrets and final 6 Missle Towers being installed now. MiniStar III fully activated. Estimated Time of Completion: Today! (RL)

Notify us when the Colossus II is completed. The newly completed Indra Prime Flagship Phaeralon will escort the Senior Directorate to the launch site and the christening ceremony (if there will be one).

You are lucky, you beat the announcement by about 3 minutes.

IC:

"ATTENTION ALL NATIONS! I, the Duke Klonor, would like to officially announce the completion of the Colossus! Thanks to the generous help donated by many helpful nations we have completed the ship in only 8 years, beating even the most generous estimations. The official launching of the ship shall occur tomorrow (RL), but it is, at this moment, fully operational! We thank all who helped, and hope that this event shall be celebrated throughout the Universe!"


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First launch of the Colossus! Approximately 10:36 EST (my space dudes still use the old time measurments) the Colossus left spacedock in the Gamma Draconis system and embarked on its first patrol. It worked perfectly, surpassing our wildest dreams. Enemies of Klonor, beware. The Colossus is now on station.


http://www.3dap.com/hlp/art/fsstory/big/ColossusDebut.jpg

President Steel watches with "Vulcanus Forge's" Master Foreman DeWinters the images of the new Colossus..

Magnificent ship... Magnificent indeed..

Th Master Foreman turned to look at the President briefly.. then back at the screen

Indeed Mr. President.. Many nations helped build it, lets hope it lasts longer than the first one.

Oh, i am sure it will, the experiences of defeat are not easily forgotten
When can we expect our "Package Fleet"?

Soon i am sure Mr.President.. Soon..

Thanks for reminding me

IC:

"To all nations who helped us in our endeavor, simply transmit the coordinates of the destination and the Package Fleets shall be delivered."

Argheraal
Alpha Coronae Borealis V
GalLong 41.9
GalLat +53.7

hmmm..
Ok.. i will assume you sent the fleet...

Yeah, I posted it in my ship thread (I thought it'd be more appropriate)

Just send ours to the outskirts of The Rhetalian System. They can dock with the station we have orbiting there.

Wow, I made a splash.
First, I stole my flagship from a much larger puppet of mine. I never said I could beat the ESUS. In fact, I said I could never beat the ESUS. I was not godmoding. I have a nice alliance with hyperspace creatures, that is all. I take back what I said about the fair fight; you'd probably smash my whole fleet. The thing is: You have a very large ship. So what?
What's to stop other people from building their own very large ships?
It is much easier to hollow out a planetoid and fill it with weaponry than to just build a very large ship.

I have stopped idioting! I have *sob* learned my lesson... :oops: