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My Military

Kahta
24-10-2003, 22:44
This is the Military of Kahta. Any suggestions are welcome, and yes, I have double checked the figures


Reserves 518,600
140,000 M4/Shotgun Combos
140,000 Individual Combat Weapons
14,000 Dragonuv Sniper Rifle
84,600 HK G11
140,000 FC-57A2
518,600 Soldier Packages



Presdiental Protection 40,000
10,000 Colt Model 635
10,000 HK UMP 45
10,000 FNP 90
10,000 M4/ M249


Infantry 504,000
504,000 Soldier Package
14,000 Leif APC
86,000 M3 Bradleys
50,000 Benelli Shotguns
50,000 M98A1 Javelins
50,000 Barrett M82A1
50,000 HK MSG-90A1
50,000 Reinmetall MG3
3,840 UH-1 Hueys
50,000 MK-19 Automatic Grenade Lunchers


Paratroopers 84,000
84,000 M4/M203
42,000 M224 60mm Mortar
84,000 Soldier Packages

Tanks 17,000
16,000 M1A2
500 FT-4 Light Airbourne
500 Beowolf MBT

Artilery 1,100 (Need more MLRS)
100 RGA-SPA
1,000 MLRS

Anti Tank 28,000 (Need more AH-64's)
28,000 AH-64

Air Force 19,215 (Numbers not including ground crew)
180 F/A-18 Superhornets
2,030 F-15's
700 F-14
3,100 F-22
60 P-3
100 F-72
160 EA-6B
110 C-17A
125 C-130
110 E-767
110 KC-767
200 B-52
110 E-2
110 MH-60
200 B-2
1,000 Tornado

Navy 74,680 (Not including civillian companies contracted out)
3 Iowa Class BB
70 Arliegh Burke DD
1 Defiant Class CVN
75 Ticonderoga Class C
100 RORO Tank Transport
2 United States Class CVN
15 Ohio Class SSBN (Need more SSBN's and SSN's)

WMD's
20 Nuke ICBM
500 Nuke ICBM
150 SLBM (on Ohio SSBN's)
10,000 Kahta ICBM's (only 3,000 have Nuclear warheads
24-10-2003, 22:45
You have way too many tanks.
TheLiberator
24-10-2003, 22:49
everyone is allowing him to have NUKE ICBM'S? how come i couldn't have any? he is only 3 days older than me!
Kahta
24-10-2003, 22:52
You have way too many tanks.

Armoured divisions are our main offensive unit. We have 34 Armoured divisions. Our tanks cost us a lot of money every year and take pride in them.
Crookfur
24-10-2003, 22:56
A few discrepancies (no real thoughts on nukes):

Far far too many attack helos and almost no transport helicopters?

Transport helos are vital to a modern force where as while useful attack helos (esspecially the apatche) have soem problems, they aren't the ultimate battlefeild unit. Even huge militaries who absoultuly love helos (ie the USA and russia) don't have anything like that many. Gunships tend to be restricted in thier roles.


Your airforce is also rather heavy rmember that a single aircraft has a ground support crew of somewhere between 10-20men (based off nimrod squadron details, fighters might be a bit smaller).
Taka
24-10-2003, 22:57
Good point, Too many nukes, cut it down to about 20-30, you've got a hell of a lot of tanks, I'm surprised you don't ahve any Aircraft Carriers, your army seems a litle bit close combat happy, and your Airborn has too many morter teams.
Kahta
24-10-2003, 23:04
everyone is allowing him to have NUKE ICBM'S? how come i couldn't have any? he is only 3 days older than me!

I am about the size of the RL United States. During the Regan years ther were easily 10,000 ICBMs
24-10-2003, 23:08
I see someone is a regular FC customer....
24-10-2003, 23:10
But unlike the US, you have FAR more tanks, et cetera.
Agrigento
24-10-2003, 23:10
Honestly though, that tank amount is insane. China has about 16,000 and they have 5 times the population of you, not to mention the fact that most of them are from the 50's and all of yours are brand new!
Kahta
24-10-2003, 23:15
A few discrepancies (no real thoughts on nukes):

Far far too many attack helos and almost no transport helicopters?

Transport helos are vital to a modern force where as while useful attack helos (esspecially the apatche) have soem problems, they aren't the ultimate battlefeild unit. Even huge militaries who absoultuly love helos (ie the USA and russia) don't have anything like that many. Gunships tend to be restricted in thier roles.


Your airforce is also rather heavy rmember that a single aircraft has a ground support crew of somewhere between 10-20men (based off nimrod squadron details, fighters might be a bit smaller).

The AH-64's are used primarily in conjunction with the tank divisions. They provide a very powerful 1-2 punch against armoured or infantry divisions.
Agrigento
24-10-2003, 23:17
You also use the G-11, brave man...

Can I get some info on the Individual Combat Weapon you use? Because if it is the OICW then I you must use a lot of Squad Support weapons. Adding your sniper rifles and other weaposn to the OICW and it looks like you have a way to high Squad Support : Primary weaponry ratio.
Autonomous City-states
24-10-2003, 23:21
2,030 F-15s? 700 F-14s? 3,100 F-22s? 1,000 Tornados? That's not only ridiculous... that's obscene.
24-10-2003, 23:24
Or use Hind series helos... heavy gunship and troop transport all in one.
Crookfur
24-10-2003, 23:26
The AH-64's are used primarily in conjunction with the tank divisions. They provide a very powerful 1-2 punch against armoured or infantry divisions.


At most you would be talking about 100 per division so unless you have 280 divisions...
Ravea
25-10-2003, 00:24
Throw in some Uzis, Mac-10s, Sig-Saures, and some more artillery. Thats mainly what my army uses.

Good choice with the Baretta. I love that gun!
Omz222
25-10-2003, 00:30
2,030 F-15s? 700 F-14s? 3,100 F-22s? 1,000 Tornados? That's not only ridiculous... that's obscene.
Someone else also tried to convince Kahta --- just doesn't work.

And Kahta should know that there are tank-fired HEAT rounds that can be fired at low-flying helicopters, not mentioning the popular ADATS and Avengers.

Also, the AH-64 have a crew of 2, not 1.

I am about the size of the RL United States. During the Regan years ther were easily 10,000 ICBMs

You must be mistakening warheads with ICBMs. A warhead is not an ICBM.

Also, you should know that Reagan's crazy spendings on military, such as the "ship competition" with the Soviets, gained himself a lot of defecits.

EDIT

Also, posted in the other thread:

I really doubt an August nation can maintain 80,000 M2s, 28,000 AH-64s, and 400 B-2s and B-52s, plus 5000 F-15s and F/A-22s.

Also, with 75 cruisers, it is just an overkill. You need a lot more frigates and attack subs.

Aside from the overkill numbers, you are serious lacking in several other units. You need much more artillery pieces, for one thing --- towed light guns to Crusaders or Paladins. You also don't have transports and utility helicopters. You should also have humvees.

You also need a lot more logistics units for army and navy: recovery vehicles, submarine tenders, fast combat support ships, oilers, etc.

Your military also seems to lack anti-air capabilities and your ship seems to lack significant ASW capabilities. A missile defence system is not for shooting down aircraft.

I'd suggest you to cut back on the numbers for logistics units and for budget. Also, it is always wise to cut back on numbers for military effectiveness.
25-10-2003, 00:34
YOu need to retire the EA-6B and go with the new and better EF-18
Omz222
25-10-2003, 00:36
YOu need to retire the EA-6B and go with the new and better EF-18
The EA-6B is good enough --- although in the USN iti s already reaching its service life limit.
25-10-2003, 00:48
I like to say... nice military.
25-10-2003, 01:39
UUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRR DDDDDDDDDUUUUUMMMMBBB
Kahta
27-10-2003, 22:02
You also use the G-11, brave man...

Can I get some info on the Individual Combat Weapon you use? Because if it is the OICW then I you must use a lot of Squad Support weapons. Adding your sniper rifles and other weaposn to the OICW and it looks like you have a way to high Squad Support : Primary weaponry ratio.

Yes, it is the OICW. The snipers are trained to act alone and not neccesarily with a squad. I like having diverise squads.
Kahta
27-10-2003, 22:08
2,030 F-15s? 700 F-14s? 3,100 F-22s? 1,000 Tornados? That's not only ridiculous... that's obscene.

No, not really if I need to defend myself.
Kahta
27-10-2003, 22:14
2,030 F-15s? 700 F-14s? 3,100 F-22s? 1,000 Tornados? That's not only ridiculous... that's obscene.
Someone else also tried to convince Kahta --- just doesn't work.

And Kahta should know that there are tank-fired HEAT rounds that can be fired at low-flying helicopters, not mentioning the popular ADATS and Avengers.

Also, the AH-64 have a crew of 2, not 1.

I am about the size of the RL United States. During the Regan years ther were easily 10,000 ICBMs

You must be mistakening warheads with ICBMs. A warhead is not an ICBM.

Also, you should know that Reagan's crazy spendings on military, such as the "ship competition" with the Soviets, gained himself a lot of defecits.

EDIT

Also, posted in the other thread:

I really doubt an August nation can maintain 80,000 M2s, 28,000 AH-64s, and 400 B-2s and B-52s, plus 5000 F-15s and F/A-22s.

Also, with 75 cruisers, it is just an overkill. You need a lot more frigates and attack subs.

Aside from the overkill numbers, you are serious lacking in several other units. You need much more artillery pieces, for one thing --- towed light guns to Crusaders or Paladins. You also don't have transports and utility helicopters. You should also have humvees.

You also need a lot more logistics units for army and navy: recovery vehicles, submarine tenders, fast combat support ships, oilers, etc.

Your military also seems to lack anti-air capabilities and your ship seems to lack significant ASW capabilities. A missile defence system is not for shooting down aircraft.

I'd suggest you to cut back on the numbers for logistics units and for budget. Also, it is always wise to cut back on numbers for military effectiveness.

Aliright, I have $3 Trillion in cash right now from budget surpluses. I'll be posting that on my nations website shortly.

I am also going to have a running list of needed items.