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Druze's Demise

Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:10
The Most Serene "Republic" of Berëza has declared war on Druze, on behalf of the alternative-sexuality population that formerly resided in Druze (ooc: i'll get the full name later), and on behalf of The Empire of the Mindset. We plan on removing the present government, and turning over the captured land and people over to The Mindset, that it may become one of their provinces, or one of whatever geopolitical denomination they have.

This is not a TAOBB attack at this time. Berëza feels that the threat is sufficiently small, and sufficiently urgent, so as not to have to waste time gathering a much larger army whose extra strength would be useless here.

Combat forces are as follows:
58 Divisions of Mechanized Infantry, with 10000 combat troops and 2500 APC's each.
45 Divisions of Armor, with 10000 tank crewmen and 1500 tanks each.
23 Divisions of Support, with 10000 combat troops and about 3000 fire support systems (such as mortars, artillery, rocket trucks, etc.) each.
7 Divisions of Airborne Infantry, with 10000 paratroopers/helitroopers each.
8300 combat fixed-wing aircraft, 2400 of which are fighters, the rest attack aircraft and bombers.
7200 combat and combat/transport helicopters.
About 700 Special Forces.
About 200 Specially-Designated (Spetznaz) Forces.
A moderately large fleet that will be declared if it becomes relevant. It includes aircraft carriers, landing craft, shore bombardment ships, supply ships, and long-range missile carriers.
Full support personnell, vehicles, and supplies for all.

All forces have been dispatched. Long-range tactical bombers will be attacking military fortifications shortly. The full force is expected to arrive no sooner than midnight RL, no later than noon tomorrow.
Celack
23-10-2003, 22:11
Why again?
23-10-2003, 22:12
The Rouge Nation of Technophobes is interested in assisting with the annexation of Druze, and will allow mindset to have the territory, we have no interest in it.

(OOC: elaborate "can I help killit?")
Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:14
celack - he's being a violently aggressive homophobe.

technophobes - well, you can...but you'd be helping someone who's already helping someone. go for it if you wish. (i have no interest in the territory, either).
The Mindset
23-10-2003, 22:16
You shouldn't do this in the name of me. I do plan on the annexation of The Druze, due to its extreme homophobic attitudes. Since my nation is incredibly against homophobics, racists and religious fanatics, I made the decision to destroy this pitiful nation.

I have no interest in the territory, I only wish to rid the world this vile piece of slug droppings.
23-10-2003, 22:16
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The UNSC is willing to sell weapons of war. Please see UNSC InternationalMarket.
Celack
23-10-2003, 22:17
oh. Can you solve this through diplomacy(i have to ask) and if not can I help?
Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:17
war update - Druze is feeling sleepy, and i want to eat dinner. sorry, people. no show yet. come back later.
The Mindset
23-10-2003, 22:17
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The UNSC is willing to sell weapons of war. Please see UNSC InternationalMarket.

As said before, you have 24 hours.
Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:18
oh. Can you solve this through diplomacy(i have to ask) and if not can I help?

tried that. didn't work. check out http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84592&start=40
23-10-2003, 22:18
Exetonai would liek to offer an area for the states to hold diplomatic talks. Should they fail, exetonia sees no reason why the annexation cannot continue (wars have broken out over less in r/l)
23-10-2003, 22:18
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24 hours to? Hey, we aren't homophobic. We reformed our ways. Hell, we're allowing the to emmigrate to our nation.
Celack
23-10-2003, 22:20
Can I help in the war?
Hattia
23-10-2003, 22:24
Hattia is formally condemning The Most Serene Republic of Bereza's actions and is requesting that they call off the attack.
The Mindset
23-10-2003, 22:26
Hattia is formally condemning The Most Serene Republic of Bereza's actions and is requesting that they call off the attack.

May I ask why? If you are homophobic, then you have every right to condem, if you are not, explain your opinion?
Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:26
Hattia is formally condemning The Most Serene Republic of Bereza's actions and is requesting that they call off the attack.

why?
Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:27
Can I help in the war?

same goes for you as for technophobes. help if you like. i'm getting no spoils of war, so don't expect any yourself.

but once again, WE ARE ON HOLD. i'm hungry and druze is sleepy.
Blademasters
23-10-2003, 22:28
UNSC, The Armed Republic of Blademasters is going to enforce a blockade on your territories until The Mindset can take further punitive action.
Hattia
23-10-2003, 22:28
Ooops, sorry I read it wrong, I thought you were attacking it because you were homophobic.

Sorry
23-10-2003, 22:29
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The hell?! We haven't done anything.
Blademasters
23-10-2003, 22:34
UNSC, this blockade is simply to prevent your military from amneuvering out of the system, and to prohibit any enemy militaries from entering until a time as we see fit, all civilian traffic will be permitted past. You should not see this as a hostile action, only to protect innocent lives. Depending on the situation when Mindset arrives, we may or my not allow his ships to pass. Consider this a box, with swords pointing out, and in.
Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:34
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The hell?! I haven't done anything.

my point exactly. UNSC'sn't done anything. i don't care what they've said or thought. as long as they don't act on their homophobia, i don't care. so unless you've evidence of wrongDOING, i'm going to moderately condemn military action against them. not so much the blockade, though, as long as it's only for military stuff.
23-10-2003, 22:36
Exetonia now officialy declares it's borders open for delegates of all parties involved in this escalating conflict to discuss their problems and come to a conclusion - Government of Exetonia - External affairs division
23-10-2003, 22:37
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Hey, Im supporting your cause. I'm selling weapons to nations for cases such as these.
Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:39
you're not helping me - you're spacetech, and i've plenty of weapons meself. and i'm mildly pissed at you, too.
23-10-2003, 22:42
We respectfully request, in the name of world peace, that all nations intent on conquering Druze provide documentation of the alleged Druzian crimes against those of "alternative sexuality."

Until the nature and extent of the alleged "violent aggression" are declared, we feel that those who plan to annex Druze have no right to interfere in the affairs of that nation and are in fact conducting themselves no better than the government they intend on destroying.

While you claim to be against radicals, racists, and homophobes, you are quick to rush to war against a nation without providing, in our opinion, sufficient reason. Furthermore, you intend to annex the nation rather than bring those responsible for these as-yet-unproved crimes to justice. We cannot, we will not, accept this as any sort of "just" war.

We will not intervene, but we reiterate our request for the agressors here to show the world community evidence of the crimes of which they speak.
23-10-2003, 22:43
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Why? Anyways you have your military were selling them to nations who are seeking to help you.
Bereza
23-10-2003, 22:47
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84592
23-10-2003, 22:49
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And we did what other than accept them into our nation?
23-10-2003, 23:03
We have read the document you have provided.

We find the situation appalling. No human, regardless of orientation, may be bought, sold, or transported like cattle.

Despite this, we still see the intention of total annexation to be intolerable. The human-rights abuses conducted by a small number of people does not provide sufficient reason to destroy the soverignity of a nation and incorporate it into another.

Should you opt to apprehend and punish only those responsible for these actions, we will remain silent. However, should you carry out your plans of annexation, you will place the mark of imperialist aggression upon your nation. You shall not be liberators, you shall not be righteous, you shall not be agents of justice; no, you shall be conquerers, conquerers who kill innocent civillians (for it is inevitable in every war) and rob them of their national identity.

The path you choose is the wrong one. We urge you to reconsider.
The Mindset
23-10-2003, 23:10
We have read the document you have provided.

We find the situation appalling. No human, regardless of orientation, may be bought, sold, or transported like cattle.

Despite this, we still see the intention of total annexation to be intolerable. The human-rights abuses conducted by a small number of people does not provide sufficient reason to destroy the soverignity of a nation and incorporate it into another.

Should you opt to apprehend and punish only those responsible for these actions, we will remain silent. However, should you carry out your plans of annexation, you will place the mark of imperialist aggression upon your nation. You shall not be liberators, you shall not be righteous, you shall not be agents of justice; no, you shall be conquerers, conquerers who kill innocent civillians (for it is inevitable in every war) and rob them of their national identity.

The path you choose is the wrong one. We urge you to reconsider.

Taking out the leader will not prevent their ways. Taking out the country will.
Bereza
23-10-2003, 23:21
it's the same thing - when you take out a leader, you need to replace them. with your own puppet. which is the same as (often worse for the conquered people than) annexing it.

the annexation continues, soon's Druze wakes up.
24-10-2003, 02:53
You would subjugate an entire nation for this warped reasoning?

Is it not possible to let them pick a new leader? Why must it be your own puppet? Surely there must be citizens willing to step forward and fill the roles left by the old government! Surely in a developed, industrialized nation the people can assemble quickly enough to accomplish this...

We find this latest comment by The Mindset disturbing. You advocate genocide and the destruction of nations for the actions of but a few?

You do little to earn a good name for yourself with this kind of talk, and we shall have nothing further to do with you as you are merely a bloodthirsty tyrant.

Alas; since we are small and do not practice the brutal annexation our fellow countries, we can only hope and pray that the arrival of your nations doom is hastened. The world shall be a better place for it.

Good day.
Taka
24-10-2003, 03:10
You are a very young and niave nation, so we will forgive you for not seeing the benifits to the anexation of this country. Not only will they be given the economical benifits of belonging to a larger and more powerful natoin, they will be able to spend all of thier leftover income on consumer goods, as the Mindset will protect them in times of trouble. . . not to mention that they will recieve the culture and sociaty that they lack now as a relitivly primitive nation. We are acculay a bit surprised that neither nation here is a member of the Imperialist League of Gentlemen, though we respect all Imperialists, wether they be part of our League or not. Happy hunting Beraza and Mindset.
24-10-2003, 03:12
I don't think their being annexed...I think their being destroyed.
Taka
24-10-2003, 03:16
oh, well in that case, happy crater making.
24-10-2003, 03:17
OOC: Wow, this post has become popular even without our RPing.

IC: We understand this urge to annex us to be a manifestation of your religious prejudice and your contempt for Druzian and Allawian religion and culture, your desire to use Allawian and Druzian resources for your own perverted goals, and your Christian crusading tendencies.

Hence, we shall pursue the two following courses:

1. We shall refer this act of aggression to the UN Security Council (in which we have our ally).

2. We will refuse to partake in this silly little exercise.

So long,

The Holy Druzian Emperor
Master of Allawi and Druze
Bereza
24-10-2003, 05:32
and your Christian crusading tendencies.

just for that, we will defenestrate your "high emperor". we are not religious, or crusaders, and we have nothing against your culture or religion. we militarily object to your homophobic policies, that's all.

2. We will refuse to partake in this silly little exercise.


are you IGNORING us?

oh, yeah - UNSFNWNC..whatever...we declare war on you, too. The Mindset has provided us plenty of evidence for this.

and i'd like to make a statement:

The Most Serene "Republic" of Berëza, in its military campaigns, always places the minimization of civilian casualties at high priority. Just look at our Atlantiopiean campaign. Druze will not be destroyed - it will be conquered by minimal means necessary, and turned over to The Mindset.

Keep in mind that The Most Serene "Republic" of Berëza will be doing the actual conquering, not The Mindset. We don't know what sort of military strategies they use, but it doesn't matter. Druze will not be destroyed.
Bereza
24-10-2003, 06:08
talk is cheap

lies are expensive

so's all this military hardware that just landed on an unspecified area/coast/border of Druze
24-10-2003, 06:10
The Druze has left the building.


OOC: Like Elvis has left the building. G'night all and may you enjoy the Druze. The Druzians shall whoop your asses like the Somalians whooped the Americans'
North Germania
24-10-2003, 06:16
Anyone remember how the Somalian to American losses were around 200:1?
24-10-2003, 06:17
Anyone remember how the Somalian to American losses were around 200:1?

uh...that would mean we killed 20,000 of them...think about it.
Britmattia
24-10-2003, 06:21
what, massive local casualties and forces pulled out because they have an election coming up? Rad.

I'm also empowered by His Most Glorious Militaristic Majesty to offer all of our offensive military capacity to any anti-druze operations, provided we're transported to the battlefield, our transport ships still being in acquirement. We feel strongly that homophobia should not find a home in any nation, and if that home is infested by crazy religious people, that just makes bombing it more fun.

Nicholas Drake
Minister of Defense

(force request available on telegram)
Bereza
24-10-2003, 06:50
what, massive local casualties and forces pulled out because they have an election coming up? Rad.

I'm also empowered by His Most Glorious Militaristic Majesty to offer all of our offensive military capacity to any anti-druze operations, provided we're transported to the battlefield, our transport ships still being in acquirement. We feel strongly that homophobia should not find a home in any nation, and if that home is infested by crazy religious people, that just makes bombing it more fun.

Nicholas Drake
Minister of Defense

(force request available on telegram)

The Most Serene "Republic" (cough) of Berëza officially thanks you for your support. You may assist us in the attack, though we warn that we will not slow down to collaborate with you, and will take minimal (though some) measures to avoid involving you on the recieving end of gunfire.

in other words, we'ren't going to stop you, but we'ren't going to help you, either.
North Germania
24-10-2003, 06:59
20:1. Accident.
Bereza
24-10-2003, 07:07
2000 hours local time, off a Druzian coast. A large Berëzan warship armada escorts an utterly massive flotilla of Berëzan ground forces, numbering well over 2 million (including support/logistics people), as they make their way to the staging point for the amphibious assault. As the sky turns from a dark pink to a dark blue, the men and women of the 45th Mechanized Infantry division, sitting in and on their BTP-1 APC's in a landing craft, duck their heads as a circle formation of ISh-12 Yastreb strike jets flies very low overhead, towards the coast. Further off in the distance, pairs of TV-3 tandem-rotor transport choppers were making their way in the same general direction. Behind them, they heard the roar of heavy naval guns, as Berëzan gun cruisers and battleships fired at the beach. In front of them, they could see and hear the shells, ranging from relatively benign 170mm to collossal 23.5", find their targets. And all around them, almost as far as they could see, were landing craft and transports. The sheer size and strength of the force was enough to inspire confidence in the most nervous soldier, or make the most confident enemy back down, thought Private Georgi Guzman, as he sat in the commander's hatch of his squad's APC. Dressed in the standard MechIn outfit of a medium-length black/green coat, smoking a cigarette, and fiddling with the buttstock of the APC's Sokolov machine gun, he stood up to look at the coast. The shore bombardment looked like it wouldn't leave much for the makeshift marines (the Berëzan military has yet to create a dedicated amphibious force) to do.

Flashes in the air meant that something was attacking the strike jets, though he couldn't tell if it was ground fire, or aircraft.

"Shit!" exclaimed his friend, Private Nadia Tur'evina, ducking as another flight of Yastrebs streaked towards the coast, even lower than the last. Another shortly followed. Tur'evina and Guzman's landing craft lurched as it began to move, causing both to stumble - MechIns were not used to amphibious assaults.

The attack was on.

ooc: off to sleep now. pick up around noon or so tomorrow.
Bereza
24-10-2003, 22:13
i'm back. respond, please.
Bereza
25-10-2003, 17:34
i see youre ignoring me....very well...