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What is the foumula so that I don't god mod.

What is the foumula so that I don't god mod.
This (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29122) should help you out.

Nonsense. Use this:

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=lima%20beens

Nonsense. Use this:

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=lima%20beans

correction, use this http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=lima%20beens

Yeah, I thought it was beans, not beens. but anyway.

*posty deleted due to previous edit*

Great now hes going to think he can have 4 thousand planes. Seeing how you put it at 50% defence budget

Great now hes going to think he can have 4 thousand planes. Seeing how you put it at 50% defence budget

OOC: So, what's your problem? Don't wanna lose your hegemony?

OOC: Sorry, clearly you haven't be around long enough to know about Lima beens. The minute he thinks he can have 4000 Planes, hes going to get them. He just won't listen to common sence! Also, using 50% of your budget on defence isn't very smart, I would expect many coups against your government with that kind of spending.

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=lima%20beens&defenseprovided=1&defense=17&militarybudget=1

I put his military budget at 17% which is about what the US uses. It uses like 7-11% of it's GDP, but 17% or so for its budget which is still kind of high. Anyhow, that should do nicely.

Artitsa Gross Domestic Product

Population: 439,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: All-Consuming
GDP per Capita: $30,000
GDP: $13,170,000,000,000
National Budget: $4,624,408,440,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 5.97%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 17%
Military Budget: $786,149,434,800

Enough for:
25,278 F-15Es, or...
39,307 Su-34s, or...
41,816 F-16s, or...
71,468 MiG 29s, or...
182,825 M1A2 Abrams, or...
262,049 T-90s, or...
1,341,551,936 M-16s, or...
2,620,498,116 AK47s

hehehe, I always like seeing that. 262,049 T-90s... lovely, would that mean like 340,000 T-80UM5s ;)

OOC: some people need to look at the real world. At the height of the Cold War, USSR was spending almost 56% of its GDP on defense. I know it's crazy but the commies were indeed crazy.


Artitsa Gross Domestic Product

Population: 439,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: All-Consuming
GDP per Capita: $30,000
GDP: $13,170,000,000,000
National Budget: $4,624,408,440,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 5.97%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 17%
Military Budget: $786,149,434,800

Enough for:
25,278 F-15Es, or...
39,307 Su-34s, or...
41,816 F-16s, or...
71,468 MiG 29s, or...
182,825 M1A2 Abrams, or...
262,049 T-90s, or...
1,341,551,936 M-16s, or...
2,620,498,116 AK47s

hehehe, I always like seeing that. 262,049 T-90s... lovely, would that mean like 340,000 T-80UM5s ;)

OOC: some people need to look at the real world. At the height of the Cold War, USSR was spending almost 56% of its GDP on defense. I know it's crazy but the commies were indeed crazy.


Artitsa Gross Domestic Product

Population: 439,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: All-Consuming
GDP per Capita: $30,000
GDP: $13,170,000,000,000
National Budget: $4,624,408,440,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 5.97%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 17%
Military Budget: $786,149,434,800

Enough for:
25,278 F-15Es, or...
39,307 Su-34s, or...
41,816 F-16s, or...
71,468 MiG 29s, or...
182,825 M1A2 Abrams, or...
262,049 T-90s, or...
1,341,551,936 M-16s, or...
2,620,498,116 AK47s

hehehe, I always like seeing that. 262,049 T-90s... lovely, would that mean like 340,000 T-80UM5s ;)


And you know that Russia is now broke right? Their economy is no imploded. Consider that.

OOC: I know this will sound real n00bish, but... don't hurt me! ^_^ Can someone explain to me the exact difference between GDP, National Budget, and Military Budget? I don't want to get them mixed up, thus overspending, thus godmoding...

Here is the new exetonian spending budget:


Exetonia Gross Domestic Product
Population: 9,000,000
Civil Rights: Rare
Economy: Reasonable
GDP per Capita: $7,500
GDP: $67,500,000,000
National Budget: $8,318,295,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 0.86%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 7%
Military Budget: $582,280,650

Enough for:
18 F-15Es, or...
29 Su-34s, or...
30 F-16s, or...
52 MiG 29s, or...
135 M1A2 Abrams, or...
194 T-90s, or...
993,652 M-16s, or...
1,940,935 AK47s

OOC: I know this will sound real n00bish, but... don't hurt me! ^_^ Can someone explain to me the exact difference between GDP, National Budget, and Military Budget? I don't want to get them mixed up, thus overspending, thus godmoding...

GDP is the total amount of revenue that your country brings in. Taxes, Tariffs, confiscated property, spoils of war, payoffs from other countries, etc.

Budget is the amoung of money that your government uses to fund things such as highways, subsidize businesses, fund colleges, etc.

Military Budget is the amount of money that your country spends on defense. IE. buying weapons of war and training people, upkeep of military forces and paying your troops, providing health care, etc. Your military budget is included in your national budget.

OOC: You are a n00b. consider that. and so are we.

IC: GDP: the total of everything your country makes in a year.
National Budget: is what your government can spend on things like welfare, education, roads, military, etc.
Mil Bud: The amount you decide to spend on the military.

From the library of:
The Holy Druzian Emperor
Master of Allawi and the Druze


OOC: I know this will sound real n00bish, but... don't hurt me! ^_^ Can someone explain to me the exact difference between GDP, National Budget, and Military Budget? I don't want to get them mixed up, thus overspending, thus godmoding...

So for higher the Defence budget percentage, the lower in good living for your people. If 50% of your budget is spent on defence, that means you only have the other 50% for Hospitals, Schools, Roads, government services, and just about everything else.

So for higher the Defence budget percentage, the lower in good living for your people. If 50% of your budget is spent on defence, that means you only have the other 50% for Hospitals, Schools, Roads, government services, and just about everything else.

Correct. If your GDP is 100 million and you spend 50 million on your military, then your people get 50 million for government sponsored roads, schools, healthcare, welfare...take into account that the budget also pays the people who work for the government... your leader, his advisors, post office peeps, and other federal employees.

OOC: Bear with me for a teensy bit longer. ^_^ If National Budget goes to health care, education, welfare, etc, and Military Budget goes to military stuff, what does the leftover money do? Paychecks and stuff? *feels so silly asking that, but does nevertheless!*

OOC: Bear with me for a teensy bit longer. ^_^ If National Budget goes to health care, education, welfare, etc, and Military Budget goes to military stuff, what does the leftover money do? *feels so silly asking that, but does nevertheless!*

It goes to erase your deficit or to a surplus. It can go to foreign aid, etc.

OOC: Bear with me for a teensy bit longer. ^_^ If National Budget goes to health care, education, welfare, etc, and Military Budget goes to military stuff, what does the leftover money do? Paychecks and stuff? *feels so silly asking that, but does nevertheless!*

NATIONAL BUDGET INCLUDES MILITARY BUDGET. MILITARY BUDGET COMES OUT OF NATIONAL BUDGET.


OOC: tooootal n00b.

ooc: yes lunarion, you hit it bang on the nail there. It also goes on whatever else u can think of such as institues above the nation's leader's head such as certain fbi/cia projects etc

ooc: Druze, just be happy your flaming me Out of Character. You're annoying me, I'll be looking for you to slip up in character. I'll be there.

ic: Its not a n00b question, At least your taking the time to ask questions like this, unlike other players...

Some people have their defence budget as low as 3%, however that doesn't allow for alot of spending. I keep mine at 15%, but I have stockpiled massive amounts of money for when I need it. With a surplus of roughly 1 Trillian each NS year, Im in the clear.

Population: 1,149,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $40,215,000,000,000
National Budget: $21,524,998,320,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 13.38%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 25%
Military Budget: $5,381,249,580,000

Enough for:
173,030 F-15Es, or...
269,062 Su-34s, or...
286,236 F-16s, or...
489,204 MiG 29s, or...
1,251,453 M1A2 Abrams, or...
1,793,749 T-90s, or...
9,183,019,761 M-16s, or...
17,937,498,600 AK47s

Automagfreek Gross Domestic Product


Population: 1,189,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $41,615,000,000,000
National Budget: $23,595,705,000,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 8.51%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 15%
Military Budget: $3,539,355,750,000

Enough for:
113,805 F-15Es, or...
176,967 Su-34s, or...
188,263 F-16s, or...
321,759 MiG 29s, or...
823,105 M1A2 Abrams, or...
1,179,785 T-90s, or...
6,039,856,228 M-16s, or...
11,797,852,500 AK47s

--BALETED--

Automagfreek Gross Domestic Product


Population: 1,189,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $41,615,000,000,000
National Budget: $23,595,705,000,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 8.51%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 15%
Military Budget: $3,539,355,750,000

Enough for:
113,805 F-15Es, or...
176,967 Su-34s, or...
188,263 F-16s, or...
321,759 MiG 29s, or...
823,105 M1A2 Abrams, or...
1,179,785 T-90s, or...
6,039,856,228 M-16s, or...
11,797,852,500 AK47s

AMF your an animal! lol, quite the country there.

Eredron Gross Domestic Product
Population: 14,000,000
Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Good
GDP per Capita: $10,000
GDP: $140,000,000,000
National Budget: $31,639,440,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 2.26%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 10%
Military Budget: $3,163,944,000

Enough for:
101 F-15Es, or...
158 Su-34s, or...
168 F-16s, or...
287 MiG 29s, or...
735 M1A2 Abrams, or...
1,054 T-90s, or...
5,399,221 M-16s, or...
10,546,480 AK47s

OC: Sweet. You guys rock. I'm a noob, too, so I had no idea what my budget was. I wasn't buying anything for that reason... now I can go shopping!

Chicken Island Budget:

Population: 9,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $225,000,000,000
National Budget: $69,217,200,000 (17% military)
Military Budget $11,766,924,000

FYI... you are not a noob when you ask questions that help you get better at this game. You are a newbie. There is a significant difference. Don't put yourselves down unless you are known for doing and being incredibly immature, stupid and nearsighted.

OOC: How often do you get the money stated in that write-up? GDPs are only earned during, by definition, "a specified period of time", so... what is that period of time in NationStates? An RL month? An RL day?

OOC: How often do you get the money stated in that write-up? GDPs are only earned during, by definition, "a specified period of time", so... what is that period of time in NationStates? An RL month? An RL day?

Depends on what you RP as an NS year. I happen to go with 1rl Day= 1NS month. That way I am not getting an obscene amount of money every day, but every twelve. It also lets me kind of put time limits when RPing. Every 6 hours = 1 week. We don't work sundays, so every hour = 1 day.

Some people go by 1week= 1 yr, some 1day = 1 yr. it all depends on you, but when it comes down to RPing, usually the timeline is set by the RP being played out.

Enough for:
128 F-15Es, or...
200 Su-34s, or...
212 F-16s, or...
363 MiG 29s, or...
930 M1A2 Abrams, or...
1,334 T-90s, or...
6,830,692 M-16s, or...
13,342,620 AK47s

Bear with me, for one more question! ^_^ Okay, if it says that I can afford the things above (well, one thing from the list above) with my military budget, can I just say that my country buys those for that NS year? Or, are those just examples, and I actually have to buy them from a storefront thread? Or, alternately, do I have to open a thread saying I purchased them?

Okay, maybe an example would help. Let's say I go with the 1 RL day = 1 NS month thing. After twelve days, can I just say I bought, say, 363 MiG 29s, or do I have to make an RP thread saying "This year, my military purchased such and such and such"? Do you get what I'm saying? ^^;;

The Island States Gross Domestic Product
Population: 751,000,000
Civil Rights: Few
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $18,775,000,000,000
National Budget: $5,178,295,200,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 6.9%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 25%
Military Budget: $1,294,573,800,000

Enough for:
41,626 F-15Es, or...
64,728 Su-34s, or...
68,860 F-16s, or...
117,688 MiG 29s, or...
301,063 M1A2 Abrams, or...
431,524 T-90s, or...
2,209,170,307 M-16s, or...
4,315,246,000 AK47s


Yes, you may check my nation and you will find that I spend massive amounts on defense. I put it to 25% because like hell I'm going to collapse my country over a few thousand tanks ;).

Bump! Can someone answer my question?

El bumpo...