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OOC: Please do not post IC unless you are a MIDAS-II signatory.

Subtreaty I: Creation of the MIDAS-II Defense Forces.

Section 1: Flag Council.

Subsection A: Makeup

A council of top military decision makers will be formed. The council will consist of 1 member apointed from each nation signatory to this subtreaty. The first head of council will be chosen by vote of the others. The head position will then rotate every 3 decades [[OOC: real life month, simple and not too often]] by alphabetical order of the origional signatory nations, then by order of signing of later signatory nations.

Subsection B: Duties

The Flag Council will be responsible for

1: Creation of a logistics mechanism for M2DForces (see Section 2).
2: Creation of an intelligence analysis and distribution agency.
3: Creation of a legal protection agency for M2DF soldiers.
4: Creation of and makeup of one (1) Force per subtreaty signatory nation.
5: The oversight and general control of these agencies.

Subsection C: Staff

The Flag Council shall have a staff of no more then 10 members per Force per Flag Council Responsibility, plus 10 members directly under each flag officer.

Pilon signs the subtreaty.

OOC: All of us in MIDAS-II have already signed the subtreaty in the other thread. So this is just getting our top officers together.

If anyone wants me to host an image of the Flag (and later Force) officer, just message me for an e-mail address.

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In order to keep the meeting secure and uninterupted, I suggest we hold it aboard a ship. We have yet to establish a physical location, so that should do for now. Which ship? Meh. Doesn't matter.
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Admiral Samuel Wick had been chosen by the President, and confirmed by the Senate, to be the first MIDAS Flag Officer for the Republic. In a way he liked the opportunity to work with a new group of people. Share their experience and likely learn something new from each other. It was almost like being back in the academy. But he also didn't like leaving his ship. Sure the new guy knew his stuff, and he had the experience, but you never really left your old command.

'Funny though,' he thought as he took a seat at the perfectly round table. 'Guy's name was Kirk. Where have I heard that before?'

He pulled out a datapad and poured some water. Since no one else had arrived he began browsing the records of each of the other members of the Flag Council.

Service Record:
Samuel Wick, Admiral
SDFID: KLJ-1498-ASDF
Age: 54
Species: Human
Married: Yes
Children: 1
Enlistment: 2335

Education: 1-8 GPA 3.83, Attended New Vancouver Cadet School (GPA 4.0), Attended Meleni University (GPA 3.78, Major in Space Technology), Attended SDF Academy, New Vancouver (Graduated 1st Lt.).

Postings: 298th Plantary Defense Battery (CO, 2 years), SDF 'Winnipeg' (Lt. Commander, 5 years), SDF 'Hyperion' (Commander, 6 years), Stragetic Planning Board (Captain, 3 years), SDF 'Solar X' (Admiral, Present).

Decorations: Cadet Merit (Academy), Valorous Star (Europa), Valorous Star (Mars), Distinguished Service (Fleet).

In order to keep the meeting secure and uninterupted, I suggest we hold it aboard a ship. We have yet to establish a physical location, so that should do for now. Which ship? Meh. Doesn't matter.
OOC: I would suggest one of all them Spacer ships... but they don't have gravity. There's the Eniqciri Ship Pagag, but perhaps a warship isn't a good place... I dunno. You'll think of something.

IC:

A medium-height man with short blond hair and a khaki waterminer uniform quietly entered the room.

"Excuse me, am I in the right place? MIDAS Flag Council? Name's Gansarek."

Service Record:
Gansarek, Colonel
Age: 37EY
Species: Human
Married: No

Education: General Engineering degree from the University of Alonda-na-Bhairíanol. Piloting license and command instruction from the Gand ac Serikek Military Academy.

Postings: E.S. Pagag, 1EY; E.S. Ganges, 1EY; Iapetus Water Mines, 2.5EY; Flagstaff Corps of Engineers, 7EY; Colonial Guard, 4EY.

The record of the Wazzu officer was the next to show up.

http://members.cox.net/sincityraiders/images/NathanielVolkov.jpg

Nathaniel Volkov, General
Age: 87
Species: Human
Married: Widower
Children: 6
Commission: 2236 [[OOC: Year 2299 by the Wazzu calander as of this post]]

Education: Public education varied, international, no standard grade. Graduated Southwatch University 2234 in sociology and with an MBA. Masters degrees in MIS and Forign Affairs.

Postings: WSS Otter as Supply Officer (finished Lt, 4 yrs), Agu Aerospace Port as head of Logistics (Commander, 10 yrs), Cyan Strategic Logistics Command (General, 13 years), CO of WSF (General, 10 years), CO of Wazzu Earth Logistic Planning (General, 26 years).

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OOC: Charicter note: Volkov is responsible for a lot of change in Wazzu warfare setup. Many in the armed forces see him as somewhat of a hero. Many also see him as getting old and tired...something he feels too. He still has some umph in him, but age is starting to drag him down. He figured it was better to join something new and challenging, but not yet too big...the M2DF. Wazzu Cheif Executive Board Member Brian Walton (basically the president/prime-minister/whathaveyou of Wazzu) agreed and let him go.

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It was at that moment, just after finishing his record, that the man showed up still quite fit for his age.

"Gentlemen," he spoke up with a Russian accent, "I am General Volkov." As he walked over to the two, he held his hand out.

Wick stood, shaking the older man's hand in a firm but non-dominating way. "General, Admiral Wick..."

He waited while he shook hands with the other man, then sat again.

"Since it appears we have some time, we may as well get to know each other."

OOC: We have some Worldships that house our civilian population.

A short Therian strides into the room, his gold and black uniform robes contrasting with his red scales. "Hello. I'm Vice Admiral Grawn."

Vice Admiral Grawn:

Full Name: Tulan Grawn
Age: 452
Race: Therian
Married: Bachelor

Commision: 2020 Mars Calender

Education: Grade 1 Level Private Education (equal to a masters degree)

Postings: TDF Victorious (Captain and XO), TFC Tyrant's Rule (XO)

(OOC: Placeholder until I've got time to work up a character.)

A man with birdlike, black-feathered wings was the next arrival. His garb was the somber black of the Ravenspire Spacy, with white accents. He looked remarkably youthful to be wearing the triple-starburst insignia of a High Admiral, but his credentials checked out; otherwise, he wouldn't be here.

High Admiral Corbin T'Ral
Species: Tenshi
Gender: Male
Age: 51 (OOC: Appears to be 20-25 years younger.)
Marital Status: Married
Spouses: 2
Children: 4
Service: 30 years

Education: Merrill Academy (elementary-secondary, GPA 3.80), Trinity Academy (primary, GPA 3.95), Black Academy (collegiate, GPA 3.85, major in Temporospatial Topology); specialized Ravenspire Spacy Tactical and Command training.

The Pilonese Admiral was the next to arrive. He wore a Pilonese Military Uniform of a Solid Turquoise Colored Material. Though he appeared young anyone who looked at his eyes could tell he was no youth. He wore ribbons from every single battle the nation of Pilon had been in since they came into space.

Admiral Corey Garland
Species - Transhuman
Gender - Male
Age - 196
Marital Status - Unmarried
Children - 6
Years of Service - 83

Education: Like most Pilonese Corey was given a node at age 5 and has learned to fully interact with it to access the sum of Pilonese knowledge. He has personally learned the art of war and headed the recent war against Vascilia County. He is the most decorated Military Officer in the Pilonese Military. It is because of his qualifications that he was chosen as the representative of Pilon, he is the most qualified officer in the Pilonese Military.
Postings: PSS Eternity as tactical officer (Finished Lt. (3 years)), Io Space Fleet Yards (Origanally Assigned as an XO of a small RnD group but worked his way up to Commander before the outbreak of Civil War (7 years)), PSS Zephyr (XO (2 years)), PSS Hyperion (Captain (10 years)), Pilon Fleet Command (Admiral (61 years))
Corey was personally responsible for developing the Phased weaponry still in use today by the Pilonese Military when assigned on Io.

Wick greeted the next two as they arrived, shaking hands with each. "It seems as though we are only missing the RRB appointment and we can begin."

He had begun catagorizing each being according to their profile and noting it down for later use.

Gansarek - Engineering
Volkov - Logistics
Grawn - Fleet Commander?
T'Ral - Special Operations?
Garland - Logistics, Engineering?

A man walked in carrying a briefcase, a glass over his left eye that hung on via his ear, and wearing a black uniform. He placed the briefcase by his side as he sat down, breathing a slight sigh.

Name: Admiral Ifend SerSpaUv
Age: 47
Species: Human-Upper Class
Education: Masters at Spartatonic Institute (Security Education). Emen Private School.

Credentials: One of the first securitors in the ArAreBeen Security Forces, helped in the development of the Security/Peacekeeper system to insure Military efficiency and low cost. Helped in the development of most hypocounters and ship subsets.

Attained a 'Right of Unsiege' from co-workers, nulling any attempts of recall. Transferred himself to M2DF.

¤Tritarchic Dominions of New ArAreBee¤

A slight smile makes it's way onto Grawn's face as he sees the representative from New ArAreBee walk in, but is quicly smothered. He walks over to him, and extends a claw out in front of him. "I don't believe I've made your aquaintance. I'm Turan Grawn, Vice Admiral of the Therian Defense Fleet and Senior Officer aboard the TFC Tyrant's Rule."

General Volkov looked around the room and thought to himself...so, who will I votefor leader?

OOC: bump and get us back on track.

"Everyone's here, so let's get started." Wick manipulated the table controls - a little unfamiliar, but not too much so. A holo of the MIDAS logo popped up in the middle of the table, to be replaced by a blank area a moment later.

"As I see it - we are here to vote for one of us to lead the Flag Council. Normally I would say chose the one with the most experience, but since this is a new organization we may want to lay out how exactly we want the organization to be setup and then decide."

OOC:
I've got a starting MIDAS flag here:
www.pacifier.com/~cziller/midas.jpg

Its not great IMO, but feel free to suggest changes or make your own for consideration. I also have this version, which is a little more direct in many ways. Which is why I'm only posting it as a link as well. ;)
www.pacifier.com/~cziller/harshmidas.jpg

OOC: So no one has a Flag Officer or Fleet Commander (for later) picture they want me to host for them?

IC:

"There are five responsibility in this treaty. There are seven of us. Perhaps best way to procede is one of us for each responsibility. Other two will be leader and second. But maybe some body has better idea."

OOC:
I've got a starting MIDAS flag here:
www.pacifier.com/~cziller/midas.jpg
OOC: I've got nothing to say IC yet, but OOC I'd suggest using a Blue Mars globe instead. Like this one: http://timesurfer.linuxcowboy.net/MarsGlobe.bmp.

OOC: Cool...I can see where Wazzu Elysium is on that. :) Not to mention a few other nations....

EDIT: In other words, "I can see my house from here!!!"

OOC: I will take another whack at it when I get home with that image. Looks nice.

IC:

"That is a reasonable idea. So based on this:"

The sub-part of the treaty came up in the holo.

1: Creation of a logistics mechanism for M2DForces (see Section 2).
2: Creation of an intelligence analysis and distribution agency.
3: Creation of a legal protection agency for M2DF soldiers.
4: Creation of and makeup of one (1) Force per subtreaty signatory nation.
5: The oversight and general control of these agencies.

"We need a Logistics, Intelligence, Judicial, and Force Command Head. The oversight would to me fall upon the force commander and his adjunct. Perhaps we could add two more sections to balance the load. Or divide the force command up into three sections for a reason we decide on."

"Well, I don't mean to seem egotistical, but I believe the best post for myself would be Intelligence. Unless one of those two additional sections ends up being a Corps of Engineers."

"I was thinking a breakdown like this: Logistics, Intelligence, Judicial, Engineering, and Fleet Command. It's somewhat space-centric I know, but we don't have a lot of heavy ground forces. Technically most of us can land ship security teams or marines but that is clearly not the same.

I was thinking the executive officer could also oversee Special Operations. Since that would draw from all five of the other positions I think the XO spot would be a good place to put that."

"That would be - six positions." Volkov broke in. "Perhaps better to have one head of Forces and two Flag over all council?"

Volkov was silent a moment, but continued before anyone else did. "We still also have problem of rotation. Do we rotate all job, or only XO and CO?"

El Bumpa

The Pilonese Commander listened to all of the suggestions before speaking up. "I suggest this, we appoint a Commander and XO be rotating positions but in addition we have each member of the counsel take up a position independantly that they specialize in. This will help spread the workload around a bit."

General Volkov addresses Admiral Garland, "What seven positions should we permenantly hold? And if new member join, what will their Flag Officer work on?"

"I propose this:
Logistics, Engineering, Intelligence, Judicial, Medical, Communications, and Overall Command as after further thought I do believe that will require as much work as any other position. If new people are added I think the first new position to add should be an XO position, as each additional member is added we can then add a new posiiton to this list, making our command easier to run as MIDAS grows in numbers."

"Splitting the command into seperate sub-sections would make it easier - but if we do we risk creating an organization comparable to molasses in it's speed. Perhaps we should simply have new members and old rotated through the Division Commander spot and their Adjuncts either by seniority or through another system."

We always support a system that appoints positions based on a person's ability in that position.

"Which is how it should be. Merit is how we arrived here, and I do not see a reason to change this now."

"Then we are in agreement?" Volkov looked around for nods and shakes.

Admiral Garland nods his head Vigorously.

"One overall commander, and two adjucts with the other four overseeing a branch is a reasonable idea. We need specific ranks for these positions, at least within MIDAS. Just to make organization easier."

Wick brought up the holo, and cleared it.

'General'
'Adjuct General'
'Force Commander'
'Adjuct Force Commander'

'Engineering (Communications, Installations)'
'Intelligence (Gathering, Analysis)'
'Logistics (Gathering, Maintaining)'
'Personel (Justice)'

"Since I believe the plan is for each of our nations to have an individiual MIDAS command our responsibilities on the flag council do not need to duplicate them."

"Good. But am I mistaken or have you listed eight positions? Who would take the last one?"

"I count eight also. Do we have a new member or did you just add an extra position in case a new member joins?"

"Gentlemen, the Force Commanders are the second called for in our treaty, and the Adjucts are their chosen seconds. That leaves six jobs for us."

OOC: Remember? Each nation picks two. One flag officer, one force commander.

"Ah, yes. It is clear now. Then we still have another position to invent."

What about a medical branch commander?

'General'
'Adjuct General'
'Division Commander'
'Adjuct Division Commander'

'Engineering (Communications, Installations)'
'Intelligence (Gathering, Analysis)'
'Logistics (Gathering, Maintaining)'
'Personel (Justice)'

"Ah yes - is that better?"

'Medical (Medical)'

"Seems better rolled into Personnel. I think we would want to keep the amount of personnel covered under each Division balanced. Perhaps 'Force Coordination?' Someone who tracks the forces in the field, and serves as a coverage planning officer essentially."

"Now, Admiral Wick, you have me confused."

"What about?"

OOC:
For everyone who doesn't know - I'm tracking the daily MIDAS UN rankings, along with others. It's always at: www.pacifier.com/~cziller/unrankings.txt

Volkov answers after a moment [[OOC: HAH! Long moment!]] to make sure there isn't any further confusion. "You list eight position and add medical. Nine, for seven Flag officer. I would think you leave out two for Force commander but you change their name."

"Er - Definately not being clear enough. How's this?"

--MIDAS Flag Divisions--

'Engineering (Communications, Installations)'
'Intelligence (Gathering, Analysis)'
'Logistics (Gathering, Maintaining)'
'Personel (Justice)'

'Medical (Medical)' or 'Force Coordination'

"Now these are divisions under the Flag Commander and his Executive officer. Their responsibility is to coordinate these Divisions together, in the case of the Flag Commander, and assign personnel to these Divisions in the case of the Executive Officer."

"I think Force Coordination may be better term. We were not mandated to create a medical branch. Could be very bad for us if diplomatic council thought we were making new treaty." Volkov noted, "But I understand you now. Is good idea."

Volkov's Russian accent is heard again "There are no objections?"

OOC: If there aren't any in 24 hours, we'll just go with it and move on to the next topic.

"No objections here... but perhaps we should avoid implementation of the plan until it is checked by the Diplomatic Council, if you really think they may be worried about it."

"While the military shouldn't be micromanaged by the politicials - they are not fighters after all - I don't see a reason not to at least open the structure up to questions. They may have some valid points to make. We will still ultimately determine the structure according to the charter."

"I think medical is best commanded independently in each fleet. Is more flexible. Engineering, Intelligence, Logistics, Justice, and Force Coordination are acceptable to me. With Flag Command and Executive Officer we have seven. Is good?"

"Agreed. Does anyone have any objections to this structure? If not I agree that we should present it to the Diplomatic Council and see what they say."

"This structure is perfectly acceptable."

"Hmm... This sounds acceptable to us as well."

"A new issue has come up that I would like to discuss with everyone, we believe that the time to begin adding new members has come. We have several candidates in mind already and they have shown an interest in joining. Are we ready to discuss adding new members yet?"

"New member should come from MIDAS-II only. That is responsibility of Diplomatic Council. But you do raise good point. Since we all agree, what happens when new nations sign M2DF subtreaty? Would be hard to make new branch for each one. Perhaps we could put them as second and third in charge of other positions and rotate them too?"

"I would say rotate them - until we have 5 member we could let them pick the division they would second in. Which raises the question: Which of us goes where?"

"I agree. We could let thempick. For us? Is best we should choose leader first. Then...then we make priority list and compare. Agreed?"

"Sounds good. Nominations are open, then?"

Admiral Wick looked around the table - the leadership position would be very important. Who would he like to work for?

'It should be someone more experienced with a combined arms force - ground combat and space combat. As nations Wazzu has both, but they don't have a lot of experience in space or ground combat. Of course really the same could be said of any of us. What wars have we really fought in?'

Admiral Garland simply watched and listened, this was a time for observation.

OOC: OK, so this RP is dying. I propose we just boost it up OOCly so we can get to the next subject.

So, if you agree, please post below what position your Flag officer would like to take (afterall, this is more for RP value later...most of our work will be through our Force/Fleet Commanders).

Commander in Chief - Oversees M2DF
Executive Commander - 2nd in charge, picks up CiC's extra load
Engineering - Ensures ship and fleet compatibility, combat readyness, standards
Intelligence - Joint analysis, ensures secure distribution to Forces
Logistics - Ensures supply to Forces
Justice/Legal - Protects M2DF soldiers, administers justice
Force Coordination - Ensures personel combat readyness



Afterall, we still need to get the bases going and start building fleets.

OOC: I'll take force coordination if no one else wants to. I spend enough time with the map and the rankings and whatnot. Just another spreadsheet to me.

OOC: Well, my guy is good for Engineering, Intelligence, or Logistics- I'll just wait and see what's available.

I would love to take Intelligence.