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The factory that will make the LBS Steamroller, and the following ships in the Steamroller class, is 17% done. It will take 30 more months before the factory is completed and another 24 months to make the LBS Steamroller. All Lima Beenians are waiting for the wonderful ship to be completed!

What is this LBS Steamroller?

How many times must we explain this to you? You CANNOT afford to be building naval ships, especially not ones this big. Even if you could afford to build them, after becoming a radioactive lake, you do not have the population to man such a large vessel, much less several of them. Quit your godmodding before every nation on this site ignores you and you have no one to RP with at all (if you can even call what you do RPing...)

play this http://www.funauthority.com/ConquestMain.asp

may I ask why a nation of nearly 50 million can man a navel vessel. Plus we can afford it due to the 600 billion that we sold from sellign Jono Land. Plus the money we got for rebuilding helped here because the factory used to make tooth paste and we had to rebuild it.

the factory is now 30% off.

I'll send you some cold ones. I hope this will help you speed up production.


The Great and Glorious
Tunashirt :twisted:

thank you it has the crews now work with more vigor. They are expected to now be done, the factory now in 1 year.

thank you it has the crews now work with more vigor. They are expected to now be done, the factory now in 1 year.
What is the LBS Steamroller? Another godmodship with 800mm guns that can move at 30 knots?

nooooooooooooo. The biggest gun is 16 inches.

Stats please

here are the stats

40 inch armour all along, 100 Patriot missile sites some SM-2-MR Surface-to-Air missiles some Sea Sparrows some Harpoon ASMs, some 20 Tomahawks tubes, vls, Also 10 quad cannon 16 inch guns, and 24 cannons with 36 6 inch guns.Also 6 nuclear reacotrs and 10 screws and a speed of 25 knots.
I have some people say it would work. Unum Veritas

I'd help you with your Project but first:

Describe this ship
Stop using the 600 Billion and reconstruction payments as an excuse. You've said that in over 10 Storefronts and like 20 Threads. Enough is Enough, you've obviously spent it all by now, it doesn't just keep coming back! you've spent it already, and you STILL can't afford the upkeep for your hundreds of other vessels.
Aren't you a lake?
Shouldn't your people be calling for a rebellion? You did divert the funds sent to help them towards armaments, and like half of them are in the miltary...
If I deem this ship to be a godmod, I will ignore you s'more.

besides my milatray budget is 67 billion using a 5th of my entire budget.

See, this is called COMMON SENSE.
It might be possible, but here are a number of problems-
1.Biggest target in the world. A battery of 155mm guns could take it out, and not worry about missing. Don't get me started on subs. Enough said.
2.It would not be able to hit 25 knots. No matter how many screws you have, the pure mass of the ship will limit speed severely.
3.Crew-No big deal, only about 10,000 men, and the rest of your navy for logistics and repairs JUST FOR THAT SHIP.
4.Use-Land Attack Platform-NONE. This thing would be wasted before it even got 500 miles off the enemy coast. And that's about all the use there is for a battleship, which is basically obselete anyway.
5. Cost of maintinance per year- Ready to give up your national budget?

So you get 67 Billion a NS year eh... you spend about 200 Billion in maintence on those hundreds of ships. Technically you should be in major debt.

here are the stats

40 inch armour all along, 100 Patriot missile sites some SM-2-MR Surface-to-Air missiles some Sea Sparrows some Harpoon ASMs, some 20 Tomahawks tubes, vls, Also 10 quad cannon 16 inch guns, and 24 cannons with 36 6 inch guns.Also 6 nuclear reacotrs and 10 screws and a speed of 25 knots.
I have some people say it would work. Unum Veritas

This ship would probably cost 600 billion dollars.

here are the stats

40 inch armour all along, 100 Patriot missile sites some SM-2-MR Surface-to-Air missiles some Sea Sparrows some Harpoon ASMs, some 20 Tomahawks tubes, vls, Also 10 quad cannon 16 inch guns, and 24 cannons with 36 6 inch guns.Also 6 nuclear reacotrs and 10 screws and a speed of 25 knots.
I have some people say it would work. Unum Veritas

This ship would probably cost 600 billion dollars.



GODMOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here are the stats

40 inch armour all along, 100 Patriot missile sites some SM-2-MR Surface-to-Air missiles some Sea Sparrows some Harpoon ASMs, some 20 Tomahawks tubes, vls, Also 10 quad cannon 16 inch guns, and 24 cannons with 36 6 inch guns.Also 6 nuclear reacotrs and 10 screws and a speed of 25 knots.
I have some people say it would work. Unum Veritas

This ship would probably cost 600 billion dollars.



GODMOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whats a god mod? What Remiesia said (if so your an idiot) or what LB said?

Ok here is how the ship works. It has 40 inch armour all along it has the armourment which I had already stated. It is gigantic it has the deplacment 100,000 tons and is gigantic. It ahs 6 nuclear reactors which we have learned to build after examining the reactors on our nuclear powered ships. We are no longer a lake do to the 600 billion we spent on rebuilding from the 1 trillionw e got. Plus the 1 trillion can not have been used up because most of our orders have been canceled. Please state if it is a god mod. If you think it is we'll try to change it if yous till agree we will cancel the program.

ok.We will imit the ship to 60 knots. Besides the 155mm guns wouldn't do much because has 40 inch armour.

try like a 300,000 if not more Displacement. AND NO CAPITAL SHIP CAN GO 60 KNOTS
Thought I'd clear that up.

ok.Second remember our policy our ships are used at a must use system. Usually they are kept at the coast rotting away. Therefore no matnince cost.

sorry I meant 20 knots and if you think it should be 300,000 knot we'll make it that. I know it would eb a giagantic target, but it has 40 inch armour.

See, this is called COMMON SENSE.
It might be possible, but here are a number of problems-
1.Biggest target in the world. A battery of 155mm guns could take it out, and not worry about missing. Don't get me started on subs. Enough said.
2.It would not be able to hit 25 knots. No matter how many screws you have, the pure mass of the ship will limit speed severely.
3.Crew-No big deal, only about 10,000 men, and the rest of your navy for logistics and repairs JUST FOR THAT SHIP.
4.Use-Land Attack Platform-NONE. This thing would be wasted before it even got 500 miles off the enemy coast. And that's about all the use there is for a battleship, which is basically obselete anyway.
5. Cost of maintinance per year- Ready to give up your national budget?
Did you even READ this?

yes, I did. I have explained most of them, i have brought the speed down to 20 knoyd. The 155mm gun Idea is that soemthing like 7 inches it would take 6 at the SAME spot to take it out. 10,00 men isn't that much, for Britain is it? It could posibly get in range of the coast, like I said there is a reson it has 40 inch armour. The matince cost like I said its grounded 90% of the time. Any more questions. Would you like to preorder one they will cost 5 billion.

They should cost like 20 Billion, and a nice sub shot to the Shafts/propellers should disable this bumbling beast.

ok. They will cost 20 billion. Oh by the way if this works I'd like to use this for countermesures. A mini torpedo that goes out and hits the other one. Wouldn't it work?

sorry I meant 20 knots and if you think it should be 300,000 knot we'll make it that. I know it would eb a giagantic target, but it has 40 inch armour.
Excuse me, if it has 40 inch armor ON THE DECKS, ON THE BRIDGE, it will SINK, because there is NO WAY IN HELL your ship can go more than 10 KNOTS without SNAPPING IN HALF. 10,000 men IS TEN TIMES THAT OF AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, you nimrod. And you want me to preorder one of these "floating" (I use the term with caution) godmods?

ok. They will cost 20 billion. Oh by the way if this works I'd like to use this for countermesures. A mini torpedo that goes out and hits the other one. Wouldn't it work?
Not if you use a supercavitating torpedo... MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

Why would it sink. If it has 40 oinch armour there it stops it from breaking in half. If you think I need it I'll bring up the displacemt to 500,000 tons. May I ask why it is a god mod. This is not like the B-1052 it could actully work. One of things could get up to 20 knots. Besides 500 miles off the coast is close enough for the Tomahocks.

ahh what is a supercavitating torpedo anyway?

The close range explosion to your propellers would be damaging. And they could launch several torpedoes at once. Or just keep going until you run out of torpedoes which you more than likely will, and the chances of missing a torpedo under water are pretty good. Like hitting a artillary shell with another.

ok... I've got a couple scenarios for you.

1: A ship that big would be open to terrorist attacks, People would love to hijack something that big...

2: Some launches an ICBM while your ships at the dock.... All your navy goes bye bye....

3: This would be a sitting duck to bombers, unless it has air defense.....

Why would it sink. If it has 40 oinch armour there it stops it from breaking in half. If you think I need it I'll bring up the displacemt to 500,000 tons. May I ask why it is a god mod. This is not like the B-1052 it could actully work. One of things could get up to 20 knots. Besides 500 miles off the coast is close enough for the Tomahocks.
Why? Because the superstructure holding up the armor would snap. Period. Also, a ship with a displacement of 500,000 tons is not going to hit more than 10 knots. It's called common sense, and physics. And it's TOMAHAWKS, learn to spell. They can also be shot down easily, they are quite slow. Not all nations have the missile defense capability of Serbia.

And may I ask how this is even useful?

it does have air defense besides, it also has ICBM defense like the kind in the Bear and the Dragon. Well you could hi-jack any ship couldn't you besides I may put a battalion of an extra 5,000 men on board just to defend.

Ok. I guess we'll keep it at 300,000 tons of displacement. The infastructure would snap why?

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Today the Nation of SilveryMinnow successfully tested both a Montanna Class Battleship and a Enterprise Class Aircraft Carrier in Naval Manuevers off the SilveryMinnow Coastline. The Montanna Class Drednought Boasts a Flag speed of 28 knots and 44 inch Twin Main guns on Bow and Stern turrets. Fire is directed by Radar guidance giving the vessel improved range and attack capabilities. The Enterprise Class Aircraft Carrier boasts a Capacity of 100 aircraft (HellDiver, WildCat,) and a Flag speed of 31 knots.

Futher information is Classified.

it does have air defense besides, it also has ICBM defense like the kind in the Bear and the Dragon. Well you could hi-jack any ship couldn't you besides I may put a battalion of an extra 5,000 men on board just to defend.

1. Battalion = roughly 500-700 men. The most basic self-sufficient fighting unit.

2. How would you supply 15,000 sailors and marines? The weight of the ship would probably double with them and all their supplies aboard. Either that or it would need its own replenishment ship to follow it around constantly.

I guess theres a new record for biggest gun in the world due to the Montanna Class Battleship, anyway that helps me a bit becaus ei t proves ships that big can hit 20 knots.

so why couldn't it have its own relenish ship to travel with it? So overall would it work.

Ok. I guess we'll keep it at 300,000 tons of displacement. The infastructure would snap why?
It's called gravity, maybe you've heard of it.

And considering the amount of people on this ship, it just might need an infrastructure-
The basic facilities, services, and installations needed for the functioning of a community or society, such as transportation and communications systems, water and power lines, and public institutions including schools, post offices, and prisons.

Hard to hijack ehh???

All some one has to do is send a special agent to become a citizen, then he joins the navy, the ship is so large, it is the main focus of the navy, your 10,000 people operating on board will need replacements once in awhile, he becomes a replacement, then he boards the ship secretly with an explosive strapped to his chest, during some period the shp is in open ater, he goes into the cockpit, pulls out the detonator, and bammmm.....

No. No it could not. It would seriously snap in half, and in any High seas it would roll, thereby destroying your precious super ship. I don't want to think about the costs for supplying 15,000 men on a ship out at sea.

so why couldn't it have its own relenish ship to travel with it? So overall would it work.
Relenish? WTF?
And it would take the entire US Auxillary fleet to supply one of these.

so why couldn't it have its own relenish ship to travel with it? So overall would it work.

Because you'd need to have a fully-stocked supply ship following it around, which is probably an easier target to take out. If someone took out the supply ship, that turns your battleship into a very expensive bathtub toy.

so why couldn't it have its own relenish ship to travel with it? So overall would it work.
Relenish? WTF?
And it would take the entire US Auxillary fleet to supply one of these.

Actually you're right...it would probably take a bunch of them.

ohh, well couldn't that work for anyship ever? Anyway would it or wouldn't it work. The supplyship could travel right beside it. And why would it turn into a bathroom toy? Snap in half ehh? 40 inch armour is mighty hard to snap. With a bit of engineering it wouldin't snap and hte more it weighs the harder it is to roll over.

ohh, well couldn't that work for anyship ever? Anyway would it or wouldn't it work. The supplyship could travel right beside it. And why would it turn into a bathroom toy? Snap in half ehh? 40 inch armour is mighty hard to snap. With a bit of engineering it wouldin't snap and hte more it weighs the harder it is to roll over.

ohh, well couldn't that work for anyship ever? Anyway would it or wouldn't it work. The supplyship could travel right beside it. And why would it turn into a bathroom toy? Snap in half ehh? 40 inch armour is mighty hard to snap. With a bit of engineering it wouldin't snap and hte more it weighs the harder it is to roll over.

I have answered all your questions would it be possible?

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No. It is not possible, we have proven every one of your statements impossible or ineffective.

ahhhhh which statements.

Just about all of them.
The ones on the speed, crew, weight, armor, cost.
And with 40 inches of armor, 300,000 tons, the ship will be snapped in half by stress in a storm.

Why does it seem every time you ask us if it works you really only accept us saying yes?

1. 60 inches? Are you nuts? The WWII battleships had about 60 cm of armor, tops. Your ship would be limited to 10 knots at best, and let's not even get started on the topic of fuel.

2. 15,000 sailors/marines? You'd need an amazing amount of space to provide the necessary facilities to suport them, which only makes the ship even larger.Not to mention in need of more supplies.

3.You don't have the infrastructure required to build such a large ship.

4.Back to the topic of armor. A few torpedoes can sink even the largest vessel, so armor merely slows a ship down. Considering how large your ship would be, it would be an easy target for unguided bombs from a strategic bomber. Besides, somebody might use biological or nuclear weapons against the ship (it's the size of a town and incredinly expensive, which makes it a worthwhile target).

First I said 40 inches. Second I said earlier thatt would have some counter emasures n board for Torpedos if they work that go like this a mini torpedo is launched to go after it. And I bet I could get 20 knots with 10 screws the storm part. YOu may be right I shall have to work on its infastruture. The factory is now 60% done. The fuel topic Every one has to be flollowed by 5 oilers.

on the topic of nukes etc. It will have nuke defense like the kind in Tom Clancy's The Bear and the Dragon. I knopw it may sound amazingly big. Mainly what you are saying is that it wouldn't be useful. Not that it wouldn't work.

can patriots take out bombs?

First I said 40 inches. Second I said earlier thatt would have some counter emasures n board for Torpedos if they work that go like this a mini torpedo is launched to go after it. And I bet I could get 20 knots with 10 screws the storm part. YOu may be right I shall have to work on its infastruture. The factory is now 60% done. The fuel topic Every one has to be flollowed by 5 oilers.

1. Nope, considering how big(and heavy) your ship would be, 10 knots is pretty fast.

2. Every one? You mean you're actually building more than one?! Get real. You'd need an amazing amount of raw materials and manpower to build even one. The cost of having several would be astronomical!

No we're only making one a t the start. If we sell alot we will make more. Or we may make one per a year. Or something like that. Can we compermise the speed of cruising 15 knots?

Ummm...to sell anything, you need a surplus of it. Therfore if you are going to sell that giant ship, you need to build more than one (unless you intend to sell the first one, which I say is daft).

As for the speed, a top speed of 15 knots sounds fair to me. However, other nations might not agree.

no. We will make the ship to sell when it has been ordered. 15 knots agreed.

under a bribe htat if they got it done by now, the workers would get several benifits, the factory is now completed construction, has begun on the ship, oh can Patriots stop bombs and how much should i sell the ship for?

Any nation that buys one will be ignored. You just don't understand your ship ISN'T POSSIBLE!! The torpedoes you mentioned, if you can give me a very accurate description plus rl proof that it could happen, I'll believe you. Otherwise, a Submarine would own this vessel. Hands Down.

WHY isn't it possible. All youa re saying is that it wouldn't be very useful not htat it wouldn't work.

You always say "what's wrong. tell me if this is godmodding." we always say yes. you need to admit that it won't work or be ignored. i don't know why you guys bother to say it is impossible. he won't listen. on another topic, anyone who buys it won't be able to rp except with other stupid n00bs.

ok we got real life prrof http://ussnorris.homestead.com/News.html

you aren't listening WHY ISN'T IT POSSIBLE like I said all you are saying is thaat it wouldn't be pratical not that it wouldn't work!

pelase answer me. If a questions tumps me the factoryw ill go back to making Toothpaste.

Just how well any of these weapons works is, of course, open to conjecture.

Go ahead and use it. I doubt your nation would have a better version of what the US has, and I doubt it would be able to stop a 65+ knot torpedo (Swordfish). Also, its apparently just starting out, and can be argued as to how well it works.

What we mean is, or rather what I mean is, no sane government would do it. The moment its out of the harbour the bloody thing would sink, and snap in high seas. You say "Yeah we'll put 5 Oil tankers behind it" like it ain't no thing! Having a fleet of Resuppliers and Oil Tankers follow around one crappy ship is completely proposturous. If you have any shred of a good RPer in you, the ship would not be built. Its completely insane. AND THERES NO WAY YOU COULD BUILD IT IN TWELVE MONTHS!!! Unless your entire population is building it... and in that case, i might have to free your population from injust treatment by a brutially oppressive regime.

for the 400-somethingth time. that much armor would break the ship in half

ok we got real life prrof http://ussnorris.homestead.com/News.html
U.S.S. Norris Newsletter?
Proof of what?

LISTEN-
It is not possible because-
THE WEIGHT OF THE SHIP WOULD CAUSE IT TO BREAK OPEN IN ROUGH WATERS, or any waters for that matter. 40 inch armor won't save it, that's what's causing it to break.
LOGISTICS-It would take the entire USN auxillary fleet to supply this thing. Which you don't have.
SPEED-I don't care if you have 10 screws, it MIGHT, in Class 2 waters, be able to hit 10 Knots. Might.

Paul Limachin looks over the blueprints for the Steamroller class. Yes everything looks in order, ahhh the meetal has arrived from the mines he notices, yes there is tons the first shipment is 50,000 tons worth. It will most likly need more. But if it does work he'll go down in history as the man who made the Steamroller. Originlly the plan was impossible 25 knots bahhh, 15 knots is more realistic. Some of his aides wondered if it would float he answered, how can it not. The aides seemed to think that it was simply to big. They didn;t know physics he knew it DID have enough displacment. Already the first parts are being weiled together, his estimite of the time it will tkae: 18 months but it will be worth it. A 1000mm torpedo wouldn't breach the armour. Yes it is amazing. Just then one of his aides broke his day dreaming, when he asked, are you sure it needs 2 oilers. Of coasre he answered, it would need 5 if it was gas powered, but this ship only used small amounts or Uranium. This ship will work. There were no doubts in his mid. He then restudied the blueprints wondering the total costs.

ach. n00bs who can't spell don't listen. i officially stop caring what he says from now on ((unless i forget :D)). IGNORED

ok. You have put forward good arguments. I have taken forward them if these counter arguments don't change my mid the factory will go back to making Toothpaste. The ship would carry a bunch of stuff on baorad and who said we can't defend the oiler because it doesn't need fuel. Speed fine I'll bring the sped down to 10 knots. Amnd could you please explain better the breaking open part and then wouldn't carriers break open too?

I've ansered all your question, except for the breaking open one that I don't understand completly, and I beilive proper engineering would solve it. Please say that these counter arguments change your mind.

carriers don't have 40 inches of armor. the weight is so immense, it just can't take the strain in a storm. (or something like that. i can't remember.)

so Carrier weigh a lot too. And wouldn't proper engineering stop it from breaking a part?

no. i can't remember. something about carriers not being heavy on the sides, just the top and inside. yours would be too heavy on the outside.

Ok I have an idea that would stop it from breaking pole about 200 inches thick running betweent the 4 sides.

Ok I have an idea that would stop it from breaking pole about 200 inches thick running betweent the 4 sides.

Carriers don't weigh like 300,000 tons... and the poles would just make it sink. Period.

So knwo the main issue is breaking in half, I still dont understand how waves break 40 inch armour?

Ok I have an idea that would stop it from breaking pole about 200 inches thick running betweent the 4 sides.
That would make it even more prone to breaking and sinking.

ok we'll drop that idea any ideas on how to make it not break in half. Besides why would it break in half?

So knwo the main issue is breaking in half, I still dont understand how waves break 40 inch armour?
YOU NUMBNUT, the armor is the reason it will break. The stress caused by waves on the armor of the ship will snap it in half.

ok we'll drop that idea any ideas on how to make it not break in half. Besides why would it break in half?
Getting rid of all that armor.

here are the stats

40 inch armour all along, 100 Patriot missile sites some SM-2-MR Surface-to-Air missiles some Sea Sparrows some Harpoon ASMs, some 20 Tomahawks tubes, vls, Also 10 quad cannon 16 inch guns, and 24 cannons with 36 6 inch guns.Also 6 nuclear reacotrs and 10 screws and a speed of 25 knots.
I have some people say it would work. Unum Veritas

OMFG! Your post has burned my eyes out!

So waves make armour break in half. Hmmmmmmmmmm you learn something new every day.

here are the stats

40 inch armour all along, 100 Patriot missile sites some SM-2-MR Surface-to-Air missiles some Sea Sparrows some Harpoon ASMs, some 20 Tomahawks tubes, vls, Also 10 quad cannon 16 inch guns, and 24 cannons with 36 6 inch guns.Also 6 nuclear reacotrs and 10 screws and a speed of 25 knots.
I have some people say it would work. Unum Veritas

OMFG! Your post has burned my eyes out!
LMAO! Yeah, every time someone posts something like this, the worlds IQ goes down.

So waves make armour break in half. Hmmmmmmmmmm you learn something new every day.
If there is too much, yes.

HOw mcuh would you need. If the waves were mercury that would provide stress, but wouldn't it have a greater chance of make less armour break in two.

were my posts correct? i think that was right, i'm not sure.

Why build such a large ship? Did you say it was a battleship?

HOw mcuh would you need. If the waves were mercury that would provide stress, but wouldn't it have a greater chance of make less armour break in two.
Actually, it's the weight of the armor that gets stressed. Look, just give up on this godmod-ship....

Someone needs to restart the WMNK just to deal with jono land..... gah.

Ahhhhh you lost me there. I will give it up once an argument gets by me! This one is gettign mighty close.

Ok, here are the problems:

1. Bouyancy. With that much armor, the density of the ship will be higher than 1g/ml. Therefore, it is more dense than water, and will sink. Carrier's are less dense because they have less armor.

2. Stress. The hull of the ship could not sustain that much armor. Assuming the water could hold it somehow, the internal skeleton could not support the armor. With or without waves, the skeleton would collapse because of the immense stress caused by the weight. The armor itself CANNOT hold the ship together. Would you like me to draw a picture for you?

3. Logistical Issues. The ship is extremely large, and would take a HELL of a lot more than you or most nations here can do to support.

4. Tactical Issues. It is a huge target. Unlike a standard fleet, which needs to be attacked in multiple places, your entire fleet can now be attacked at a single spot.

How about an argument called the laws of physics, which states this ships would not be able to move without breaking.

if these counter arguments don't solve you I'll give it up. Increase the size, to 400,000 tons. Strees: create a solid internal skeleton. Logistical Issues: It needs no fule, so that takes out a lot and why can't we have 5 oilers. Tatical, usefulness not workableness.

how the f*ck does it not use fuel?

I believe it works like this: the force and caused by the waves creates pressure on the 40 in side armor. The armor being bashed around, will create stress on other parts of the ship, on the deck, heavy pressure points like where the bridge, and guns sit. Even the mightyest structures crumble. Remember that sports dome thing, it had a great design, but accumulated water that sat on the roof caused the roof to slowly over time to warp, and sink in until out of know where, it collapsed. I'm not trying to put you down, I have nothing against you.

Increasing weight and amount of metal makes it more likely to break. I suggest you learn about actual ships, and common ships. And those people still need food, ammuntion, and tons of other stuff.

ok I'v decided to dump it.

Why not take all that metal and build aircraft?

Would this design work. It ahs the same armourment 6 inch armour same powerplant would be able to hit over 30 knot*** open to arguments. Its main purpose would be a very hard to hit target with the 100 patriot missiles, anti ICBM systems and anti torpedo weapons. It would eb called the Untouchable class be made in the same factory and be made immiditly!

please tell me.

Would this design work. It ahs the same armourment 6 inch armour same powerplant would be able to hit over 30 knot*** open to arguments. Its main purpose would be a very hard to hit target with the 100 patriot missiles, anti ICBM systems and anti torpedo weapons. It would eb called the Untouchable class be made in the same factory and be made immiditly!


Well there is always the possibility that one missile, or something is going to get by. A E-bomb would render it useless, without its electronics working, i.e the engines, it would start to slowlycome to a standstill, then it would be fish food.

I know this is a n00bish question but what is an E-bomb. Ok I guess 100 isn't enough it need 250. So would it work. Not usefullness would it work if so we'lls tart making it now. To be completed in a year.

100 Patriots? Not a chance a ship could fit all of those unless you had a pair of VLSs housing nothing but those. In short you wouldn't fit any other missiles on board unless the thing was as big as it was before.

Artitsa announces plans to create Electronic Bombs, disableing electronics. This will be fitted to a CruiseMissle and should be able to detonate just outside patriot space (which isn't very far)

Each Artitsan Submarine is expected to carry around 4 of these missles. :twisted:

Yes, an E-bomb would destroy it. Why not just build a large number of weapons only ships with little or no armor, with the same amount of resources.

I know this is a n00bish question but what is an E-bomb. Ok I guess 100 isn't enough it need 250. So would it work. Not usefullness would it work if so we'lls tart making it now. To be completed in a year.

An E-bomb is an electronic bomb. Go to a site called www.howstuffworks.com

ok tahnk you I'll stick with 100. But what if they were on different decks say 40 on the main dck on top of other guns. My be 30 on a lower deck and 30 on the deck below it. I have another idea for a ship. I combanation between a VLS and a bttlehsip.

Ok thank you I must sound liek a pathetic n00b(which I am, I just think big) But what if all those patriots etc. were analog.

Yes, I believe that is possible. How much armor is an the hull(the sides) I would go with 70 patriot missiles. Why not take the turrents off of M-1 tanks, make them a bit stonger and use them for your main guns? It would be easier to mass produce with 70 patriot missiles instead of 100.

patriots run digitally, there is not way you can make then analog.

Ok I'll go with 70. The tank idea is a good, one, but I have already planed it a quad cannon with 4 16 inch guns. It's other main thing is 20 Tomohock missile tubes(sorry I can't spell it). Plus an E-bomb would be useless if it was analog.

oh it has 6inch armour, byt he way how much should i sell it for?

patriots run digitally, there is not way you can make then analog.

E-bombs fry all electronic devices in the blast, which is a big blast. Cars, basic electrisity, hospital machines(life saving devices), would not work. Did you play Splinter Cell, and the bad guy uses cyber terrorism, and the trains collide? Its like that. ALL electronics would be rendered usless, power plants, it would set a city to living in conditions of the early 1800's. Howstuffworks has it under military.

oh it has 6inch armour, by the way how much should i sell it for?

I'm not sure if anyones pointed this out yet, but the Americans are in the concept stage of building something along these lines, more along the lines of an floating military base/air field.

I'm not saying a country as small as Lima Beens can do it, I'm just pointing out to everyone that it is possible, or at least deemed to be possible by the US Military. But yeah, money constraits etc etc.

I was hoping no one would mention that.

ok sorry I never knew that, anyway,we could use our ICBM defense agianst it which we have 10 of. The ICBM defense is like the kind in The Bear and the Dragon. So that they are destroyed out of range.

WinTrees it won't have 400ft thick armor though.

Good point :P

ok. How much should this thing cost? I looks like I finally came up with something that isn't godmodding! :D

It still is because you don't have the resources to build it.

I would increase the armor to about 9 in. Im not good with prices. Maybe you should try to find out facts about US carriers, see if you could find out how much the US pays to have theirs made.

And also, all the nations the US picks on in the M.E don't have modern navies that would rape it. Like mine. Its basically a floating base.

ok the armour will be 9 inches wills someone please sell em the resources then. Which ones don't I have?

It still is because you don't have the resources to build it.

No, that depends on where you live. Look at the Middle East, poor but rich in oil, he could have metal rich grounds.

It still is because you don't have the resources to build it.

No, that depends on where you live. Look at the Middle East, poor but rich in oil, he could have metal rich grounds.

It still is because you don't have the resources to build it.

No, that depends on where you live. Look at the Middle East, poor but rich in oil, he could have metal rich grounds.


Sorry, the web site wouldnt respond, so I had to close the page out and login again.

ohh, I have the 50,000 tons I was planning to use on the Steamroller class. I think I'll sell them for 2 billion. The cost of making one is an estimated 500 million

ohh, I have the 50,000 tons I was planning to use on the Steamroller class. I think I'll sell them for 2 billion. The cost of making one is an estimated 500 million

may I ask why a nation of nearly 50 million can man a navel vessel. Plus we can afford it due to the 600 billion that we sold from sellign Jono Land. Plus the money we got for rebuilding helped here because the factory used to make tooth paste and we had to rebuild it.

NO! YOU ALREADY USED IT! JESUS CHRIST!

-eric. the guy who didnt read the whole thread

ahhhhh no. We dumped it remeber. Anyway our milatary budget it over 68 billion.

ahhhhh no. We dumped it remeber. Anyway our milatary budget it over 68 billion.

ok, dude, i'm gonna be "nice" and explain this.

NO, ITS NOT FRICKEN POSSIBLE. why? i seen you buy some air craft inj another thread. the cost was over 3 trillion. you dfont have that money. you are seriously bankrupt. admit that, and i'll help you out.

Lima Beens, while I initially thought that a very big battleship was good, I have come to understand that it would be better to have a regular sized navy with regular ships.

so, as soon as i ring up his 3 trillion sending spree he stops posting? sad indeed

ahhhh when. We aren't even making that ship. Bumplords.

no what site id yous ee that.

ahhhh when. We aren't even making that ship. Bumplords.

good. in MANY NS years you might be able to make a string. just wait. you dont have any now

o. Bumplord we never made the ship with 40 inch armour. But could you please whow me the link where I spent 3 trillion. Besides that was TRY to buy evenit it did happen

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1904165&highlight=

there, an example of you buying 1000 b-2s. and that was on page like 5 of the search. if you want, i'll keep going

It said 20 million, not 2 billion. So I spent 20 billion. Please go back and look again.

please keep going.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1899659&highlight=#1899659

and here you buy 3,000 hornets with one trillion dollars.


shall i go on, oh godmoder?

it cost 18 million each thats a combinded under 60 billion. I know I've spent a lot so I'm stopping buying stuff. I just wanted to fill my carriers.

Uhhh, y'know, if you like klik on the urls I posted and then klik on Data Sheets. You get full diagrams of WWII Battleships, Cruisers, Carriers etc. Complete with Specifics on Guns, Armor, Engines etc.

I just took a Iowa Class Dreadnought and used the Ratios for the differences of specifications between a Bismarck Class BB and a O class BB.

P.S. The Carrier is a Ranger Class, but I used the name of a Carrier in that Class instead.

Save you some headaches.

PPS: I figured it was possible since my major industries are mining, automobiles and Education.

Working on the bomb. :D

E-bombs fry all electronic devices in the blast, which is a big blast. Cars, basic electrisity, hospital machines(life saving devices), would not work. Did you play Splinter Cell, and the bad guy uses cyber terrorism, and the trains collide? Its like that. ALL electronics would be rendered usless, power plants, it would set a city to living in conditions of the early 1800's. Howstuffworks has it under military.

Brass is resistant to electromagnetic pulses, and was used in Cold War American Naval vessels (backup) for just such an event regarding Airburst Nuclear explosions. Popular with the Soviets.