NationStates Jolt Archive

This is just a summary of the current state of the nation of Credonia

Country Information
Population: 1,024,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: All-Consuming
GDP per Capita: $30,295
National Budget: $31,027,200,000,000

Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 35%
Military Budget: $10,859,520,000,000

Calculated With: http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html

Current Dictator: Alexander Nicolas Sutton

Armed Forces
Land Units
6,000,000 Troops
3000 Challenger II Tanks
33M1A1 Abrams Battle Tanks
6,000 T-64 tanks
4200 KS1 SAM's
2000 M103 Heavy Tanks
10 DF-5 Missile Launchers
3000 M113 APC's
4200 TDR-3000A1 Tanks
2400 2S6M Tunguska
4800 M-270 MLRS Rocket Artilliary
2940 M1A2 Abrams Tanks
3000 G6 155MM Self Propelled Howitzer's
3600 M2 Bradley APC's
3600 M-15 Light Tanks
1200 HAWK ARSAM
1200 Patriot Missile System
6000 T-95UM Heavy Tanks
6000 M-26 Main Battle Tank
3000 PzH 2000 (Panzerhaubitze 2000) 155mm Howitzers
600 Magistrate Mk. IIa Nuclear Artillary(500 W-3 and 500 WT-2 nuclear artillary shells)

Air Units
600 Alpha Fighter Aircraft
600 F-14 Ultra Tomcats
200 B-52 Stratofortress Strategic Bombers
10 Drago 3000's Fighter Aircradt
600 Mirage 2000-5 Fighter Aircraft
200 Su-37 Fighter Aircraft
240 KH-4 Raptor Attack Helicopters
200 F-117A NightHawk Stealth Fighter Aircraft
20 EA-220A Joint Tactical Bombers
120 B-2 Spirit Stealth Bombers
90 B-1B Lancer Strategic Bombers
440 AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopters
200 F-15E Strike Eagle Fighter Aircraft
250 EA-148 Fighter Aircraft
10 EA-28G Kight Attack/Special Forces
20 EA-24C Multipurpose Helicopter
30 EA-26 Combat Helicopters

Naval units
4 Wasp Class Amphibious Assult Carriers
34 SSN: Los Angeles Class Attack Submarines
4 Crimmond Class Super Carriers
3 Freedom Class Aircraft Carriers
16 Mao Advanced Tactical Class Submarines
40 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
30 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyers
19 Rommel Class Battleships
38 Seydlitz Class Cruisers
25 Clauswitz Class Frigates
32 Manstein Class Destroyers
16 Vanguard Class SSBN Ballistic Missile Submarines
4 EM-150 Dolphin/Piotr Hotamel class Amphibious Assult Carriers
10 EM-220 Tigershark Class diesel electric submarine
1 Nimitz Class Assult Carrier
14 AOE-6 Combat Logistics Ship
7 Triomphant Class SSBN's
5 Land Sturm Class Naval Flagship
100 Foilbourne Frigate
20 Great Lakes Class Battleship
15 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine
10 U-LIDS (unmanned littoral interdiction & defense submarine)

6 Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carriers (Aircraft Per Carrier: 35 RF-11, 35 DD-3 Sabertooth, 5 S-3C Vikings, 10 ASW Sea King Helicopters, 10 DD-2 Infiniti, 2 C2-A Greyhounds, 3 E2-D Hawkeye, 5 EA-6B Prowlers )

6 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers (Aircraft Per Carrier: 35 RF-11, 35 DD-3, Sabertooth, 5 E2-D Hawkeye, 5 AC-150 Tankers, 10 DD-2 Infiniti, 10 ASW Sea King Helicopters)

3 Thunder Child Class Battleship
6 Saviour Class Medical Ships
12 Seawolf Class Fast Attack Subs
12 Astron Class Fast Attack Subs
12 Warspite Class SSBN
12 Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruisers
6 Zumwalt Destroyers
6 Mackensen Class Battleships
24 Visby Class Corvettes
12 Norasia Combat Logistic Ships
18 Valiant Class ASW Frigate
12 Defiance Class Light Frigates
12 Spearhead Class
30 Skjold Class Patrol Craft
12 Thatcher Class Destroyer



Strategic Missile Forces
100 SS-25 Sickle ICBM (Nuclear Warhead)
200 Minuteman III ICBM's (Nuclear Warhead)
20 DF-5 Thermonucler ICBM's
500 TSW-10B ICBM's (Conventional Warhead)
400 CNW-L6M415T Desolator (Thermonuclear Warheads)
400 L6-120A Freedom ICBM's (Nuclear Warhead)
200 REM ICBM (R.E.D. 6 Biological Agent-Biological Warhead)
600 L6-120B Freedom ICBM (Interchangable biological and chemical warheads)
1500 L6-120C Freedom ICBM (EMP Warheads)

Other Things
1 Early Warning Defense System
1 ABM Defense System (can shot down 250 warheads at a time)
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Current Alert Level Of All Armed Forces: DEFCON 2
Current Alert Level Of All Strategic Forces: DEFCON 5
Current Alert Level Of All Biological/Chemical Forces: DEFCON 5
Current Alert Level Of All Nuclear Forces: DEFCON 5
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Current Activities of The Nation
1) At War With Sirens of Titan
2) Protecting the nation
3) Military Expansion
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Our Allies
Too many to list
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ooc: one question. your relativly new so how did you get nuclear weapons? anyway, I don't know yo but you can add me to your partner list 8)

ooc: one question. your relativly new so how did you get nuclear weapons? anyway, I don't know yo but you can add me to your partner list 8)

all of our weapons were purchased :-D obviously some one didnt care whether or not we were new, they just sold them (check the relevant threads), plus i did some under the table diplomacy.

okie dokey :P

OOC:
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 83.02%

Wouldn't that cripple your country's infrastructure, education and other needs?

adjusted

*BUMP*

Quite a few soldiers you got there. More like 5% methinks.

Wanna be alies. Heres my stats (gloating time :D )

ARMY

600,000 Standard troops with FC-57's and USP's
100,000 Spec Ops specialists with FC-21's and USP's
24,000Tank Troops in 6,000 T-80U5's
10,000 Spec Ops troops with FC-57's and USP's
9,000 Tank Troops in 3,000 FT-9 Medusa's
6,000 Standard troops manning 3,000 Motrars with USP's
5,000 Standard Troops Manning 1,000 SAM10 Sites
4,000Tank Troops in 1,000 FT-7 Thorins
4,000 Standard troops manning 2,000 Hellfire Launchers
3,000 Tank Troops in 1,000 FT-101 Bardi's
2,400 Standard Troops manning 600 AA-2 SAM's
2,000 Spec Ops with MP5A2's with torches and USP's
2,000 Commandos with silenced FC-57's and USP's
2,000 Spec Ops Pilots in 1,000 MAH-1 Panthers
1,600 StandardTroops in 800 FT-8 Haralds
760 Spec Ops Pilots in 380 EA-28G's
300 Spec Ops Pilots in 100 EA-26's
400 Pilots in 100 CH-47 Chinook
120 Pilots in 60 TA-13 VTOL Aircraft
120 Pilots in 60 RAH-66 Commanche Helo's
20 Standard Troops with M16A3's, USP's and RGB6's


NAVY

880 Pilots in 440 AF-100FC's
39 Pilots in 13 UH60 Blackhawks on carriers
96 Pilots in 32 SCB Vikings on carriers
46 Pilots in 16 E2C AEW's on carriers
46 Pilots in 16 EA6B SEAD/EW's on carriers
24 Pilots in 8 E23A's on carriers
9 Pilots in 12 CH-47 Chinooks
2 Defiant Class Carriers
4 Freedom Class Carriers
15 Spruance destroyers
12 Aegis cruisers
8 Vodopad Cruisers with:
[8 F-35's and 2 KA-27's]
8 Spiral Class Frigates
8 Los Angeles class submarines
8 Resupply vessels
8 R-500 Deathrain Stealth Cruisers
8 Seawolf Submarines
4 Wasp amphibious assault vessel
1 LAH-1 Aerial Assault vessel with:
[36 Pilots in 12 CH-46 Sea Knights's
27 Pilots in 9 CH-53 Sea Stallion's
12 Pilots in 6 Harrier's
8 Pilots in 4 AH-1W Super Cobra's]
1 Helicopter Landing Vessel
1 Heavy Duty Amphibious Assault Vessel



AIR FORCE

500 Pilots in 100 MA-4 Bombers
215 Pilots in 215 MA-10's
240 Pilots in 240 TA-13's
240 Pilots in 120 AF-100FC's
140 Pilots in 35 C-17's
120 Pilots in 120 MA-14's
36 Pilots/Crew in 20 C-130 Transports
16 Pilots/Crew in 6 C-130 Spectre Gunships
34 Pilots in 17 KA-50 Kamovs
24 Pilots in 6 CH-47 Chinook's
1 Unmanned Fu-29K

Quite a few soldiers you got there. More like 5% methinks.

Wanna be alies. Heres my stats (gloating time :D )

ARMY

600,000 Standard troops with FC-57's and USP's
100,000 Spec Ops specialists with FC-21's and USP's
24,000Tank Troops in 6,000 T-80U5's
10,000 Spec Ops troops with FC-57's and USP's
9,000 Tank Troops in 3,000 FT-9 Medusa's
6,000 Standard troops manning 3,000 Motrars with USP's
5,000 Standard Troops Manning 1,000 SAM10 Sites
4,000Tank Troops in 1,000 FT-7 Thorins
4,000 Standard troops manning 2,000 Hellfire Launchers
3,000 Tank Troops in 1,000 FT-101 Bardi's
2,400 Standard Troops manning 600 AA-2 SAM's
2,000 Spec Ops with MP5A2's with torches and USP's
2,000 Commandos with silenced FC-57's and USP's
2,000 Spec Ops Pilots in 1,000 MAH-1 Panthers
1,600 StandardTroops in 800 FT-8 Haralds
760 Spec Ops Pilots in 380 EA-28G's
300 Spec Ops Pilots in 100 EA-26's
400 Pilots in 100 CH-47 Chinook
120 Pilots in 60 TA-13 VTOL Aircraft
120 Pilots in 60 RAH-66 Commanche Helo's
20 Standard Troops with M16A3's, USP's and RGB6's


NAVY

880 Pilots in 440 AF-100FC's
39 Pilots in 13 UH60 Blackhawks on carriers
96 Pilots in 32 SCB Vikings on carriers
46 Pilots in 16 E2C AEW's on carriers
46 Pilots in 16 EA6B SEAD/EW's on carriers
24 Pilots in 8 E23A's on carriers
9 Pilots in 12 CH-47 Chinooks
2 Defiant Class Carriers
4 Freedom Class Carriers
15 Spruance destroyers
12 Aegis cruisers
8 Vodopad Cruisers with:
[8 F-35's and 2 KA-27's]
8 Spiral Class Frigates
8 Los Angeles class submarines
8 Resupply vessels
8 R-500 Deathrain Stealth Cruisers
8 Seawolf Submarines
4 Wasp amphibious assault vessel
1 LAH-1 Aerial Assault vessel with:
[36 Pilots in 12 CH-46 Sea Knights's
27 Pilots in 9 CH-53 Sea Stallion's
12 Pilots in 6 Harrier's
8 Pilots in 4 AH-1W Super Cobra's]
1 Helicopter Landing Vessel
1 Heavy Duty Amphibious Assault Vessel



AIR FORCE

500 Pilots in 100 MA-4 Bombers
215 Pilots in 215 MA-10's
240 Pilots in 240 TA-13's
240 Pilots in 120 AF-100FC's
140 Pilots in 35 C-17's
120 Pilots in 120 MA-14's
36 Pilots/Crew in 20 C-130 Transports
16 Pilots/Crew in 6 C-130 Spectre Gunships
34 Pilots in 17 KA-50 Kamovs
24 Pilots in 6 CH-47 Chinook's
1 Unmanned Fu-29K

sure, we'd gladly be your ally

BUMP

How do i get an army?

*BUMP*

dinks: usually its based off of 7-15% of u population and other country factors. otherwise just buy stuff and be consistant. someone might ask to see where you got the super world-ending atom bomb ya know.

credonia, 2 things
1: wtf is bump?
2: i would like a powerful ally like you :)

Hmmmmm i wouldnt mind considering an alliance. I like your army. Any takers?

You definately cannot have 410 nuclear weapons, Credonia.

Hmmmmm i wouldnt mind considering an alliance. I like your army. Any takers?

Sure, send me a telegram stating your conditions

You definately cannot have 410 nuclear weapons, Credonia.

Sure we can, and we do, we bought all of them, check the relevent threads

Why do no one realize that the Sea Shadow is a prototype and technology demonstrator of stealth technology on ships? It isn't a combat ship.

dinks: usually its based off of 7-15% of u population and other country factors. otherwise just buy stuff and be consistant. someone might ask to see where you got the super world-ending atom bomb ya know.

credonia, 2 things
1: wtf is bump?
2: i would like a powerful ally like you :)

1. BUMP- Bring Up My Post
2. Sure, telegram me a message stating the terms of the alliance between our two nations

May we ask who you are at war with?

And Here is Raysia's Military stats:

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/raysia.jpgThe Theocracy of Raysia

Factbook Entry: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76782
Tech Listing: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1513267

Population at time of posting: 626,000,000
Economy: Tetering between All-Consuming and Frightening

Enlisted Military: 3,350,000

Expeditionary Force: 500,000
Ground Tactics Forces: 1,500,000
Air Guard: 700,000
Air Force: 90,000
Navy: 510,000
Command and Control: 10,000
Special Forces: 10,000
Other Resources: 30,000


Assets:

Expeditionary Force:
125 Su-37-1820 E-Types
45 RT-1807 Refueler Planes
45 RB-225 MegaFortress Bombers
42 RT-1907 Airborne UCAV Carriers
39 RT-1707 Multi-Purpose Transports
320 RT-2007 Multi-Purpose NVTOLs
800 RF-45 UCAV Bombers
500 RF-12 UCAV Fighters
350 RF-11 Archangels
120 Su-47-1200 Raysian Eagles
250 M1A1 Abrahms Tanks
8 Defender-Class Airships
300 Cyphers

Ground Tactics Forces:
1000 RT-2007 Short Range NVTOL Transporters
350 RT-1707 Long Range Transports
520 Cyphers
Countless Tanks, Ground Transports, Artilleries, Batteries, and Command Centers.

Air Guard (Homeland Defense Forces):
12 Mk I Sky Cleaners
34 Mk II Sky Cleaners
12 Mk I Sea Cleaners
1500 RF-12 UCAV Fighters
500 RF-45 UCAV Bombers
85 Su-37-1820 E-Types
120 RF-11 Fighters
1200 Assault Cyphers
4 Defender-Class Airships
Countless Defensive Batteries and Artilleries

Air Force:
1000 RF-11 Fighters
750 Su-47-1200
750 RT-2007
62 RT-1907 Airborne UCAV Carriers
89 RB-225 Megafortress Bombers
2000 RF-45 UCAV Bombers
1200 RF-12 UCAV Fighters
90 RT-1807 Refueler Planes
18 Defender-Class Airships

Navy (Too lazy to research Class Names):
5 Escort carriers
18 Larger Frigates
22 Destroyers
24 Tug Submarines
Countless Smaller Corvettes, missile boats, etc.
6 Sea-Borne Airstrips
24 RF-11
120 RT-2007
120 RF-12
200 RF-45

NOTE: The reason many things from my storefront are not in use, is either because they have been decommissioned from obsoletion, or because some things on the Storefront were made so that 3rd world nations may defend themselves, such as the RF-9.

NOTE2: Raysia currently haves a virtually endless supply of Drop-Boxes. They can be manufactured and assembled at nearly the same pace as deployment.

Any Questions/Things I left out?

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rsig2.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78939)

OOC: sweet, even tho ur showin off lol

OOC: sweet, even tho ur showin off lolI aksed you a question, who are you at war with? I may consider an Alliance... although we don't really like alliances... more like either putting you on the "good list" or the "Naughty List"

We're kinda a Santa Claus nation... free gifts (money) to good nations, coal (throwing rocks, grenades, bombs) to naughty nations. And yes, even jews can get presents from us lol

OK, maybe that was a bad analogy ^_^

OOC: sweet, even tho ur showin off lolI aksed you a question, who are you at war with? I may consider an Alliance... although we don't really like alliances... more like either putting you on the "good list" or the "Naughty List"

We're kinda a Santa Claus nation... free gifts (money) to good nations, coal (throwing rocks, grenades, bombs) to naughty nations. And yes, even jews can get presents from us lol

OK, maybe that was a bad analogy ^_^

LOL were not at war with anyone yet, we are part of the coalition (composed of 20-30+ nations) against the Trojan Empire. They invaded Gibraltar, so were helpin out.

Guess what? Your nations don't exist! I guess not ever planning on seeing a woman's vagina gives you enough free time to invent elaborate pretend armies for your pathetic pretend countries!

Go to hell!

umm yea, that and we sell weapons to eachother :). more like a trade organization set up so everyone can't blow the shit outta eachother with the nukes they just bought...
think about it, we might just end up being all powerful the fair way :twisted:

*** btw guy above me must be having a bad day, posted at same time***

*BUMP*

Credonia, I thought you were in the war against Communist Likon?

I had to pull out, i got involved with another conflict and then pulled out of that one too as a domestic problem came about.

I had to pull out, i got involved with another conflict and then pulled out of that one too as a domestic problem came about.

Were you allied with Lipvinity?

No, credonia has never had an alliance with them

*BUMP*

You can consider us friends.

You can consider us friends.

Thank you, you may consider us friends as well

BUMP

OOC: As long as we're all showing off our militaries, here, Drakonia's Armed Forces: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1636831#1636831

And here is our Navy: http://invisionfree.com/forums/United_Emirates/index.php?showtopic=20

Haven't got around to the airforce, yet or the final unit stats for the army.

Anyway, if you interest in alliances, see here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78302

BUMP BUMP BUMP in the night

http://www.robbiegwynne.nm.ru/img0.gif

Radio Minsk 1500

The Minsk chapter of CND has expressed consern at the recent test of the ELV rocket which it believes is intended for global military domination. The M-CND are planning to hold a vigil outside the Belarussian Foreign Ministry and calls upon Belarus to cut off all diplomatic ties with Credonia. The M-CND will hold massive demonstrations during the Minsk summit at which representitives from Credonia are expected to attend.

The Defence Minister has said that a freindship with the government of Credonia is in the interests of all Belarussians and said Belarus is commited to the fight against International Terrorism

After hearing the news on TV, President Sutton goes to the press room to make a statement to the public.

"Good morning ladies and gentlemen. I am going to make this brief. I have recieved word that citizens from other nations are protesting due to our new ELV. I am going to elaborate on this rocket to clear any misconceptions that may exist. The Delta IV Medium+ (4.2) rocket is a civil launch vehicle developed by the Credonian Space Agency (CSA) for use to place payloads into space. It can place small satellites or payloads into space, but it cannot place large weapons systems into space such as parts for a space based military missile station or something of the sort. This new rocket was designed by the CSA to extend our nations capabilities to exploring other planets, but the practical military applications are just an added bonus. Credonia is a compassionate nation devoted to the saety and security of the citizens of this beautiful planet and as long as i am president, i will do all i can to ensure the safety and security of the worlds citizens. I STRONGLY oppose terrorism and any acts of unreasonable aggression and i am devoted to stoping any types of activities that are aggressive and cause terror. Credonia has no intention of creating more powerful weapons as we already posess 515 ICBM's. The need for more weapons of mass destruction is not necessary. In addition, Credonia, and myself personally am against global domination and imperialism. No one has anything to fear from Credonia as we are a peaceful nation. If any nation wishes to see the specs on our weapons and what we plan to do with them, they may do so by contacting us in private. Thank you."

He steps from the podium, poses for pictures, and returns to his office to contiune watching the news.

BUMP

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The Office of Foreign Affairs

To Secretary of State Smith,
From Foreign Minister Ruskovich

My Inteligence Chiefs are informing me of great troubles in one of our neigbouring nations, the Federation of European Communities, and it is our belief that this is being perpertrated by the New Cardassian government, who have once alrady attempted to invade Belarus once.

Please consult http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97034

Sadly all Minsk can do is send humanitarian assistance as our military is small - however I beg of you to assist the democratic government of the EC are stop the state sponsored terror of New Cardassia. Otherwise this situation could esculate to the rest of the region.

Thank you for your time.

BUMP

why aren't I listed as an ally?

A lot of Credonia's allies are listed. INstead, i'll just put the IADF alliance, that should cover the 20+ nations that are in the alliance, including your nation.

BUMP

A lot of Credonia's allies are listed. INstead, i'll just put the IADF alliance, that should cover the 20+ nations that are in the alliance, including your nation.

Thankyou

BUMP

Hello. I would like to become allied with your nation, oh great VUSSP leader

On what basis would you like to form an alliance with us

On what basis would you like to form an alliance with us

I know you from MSN?

BUMP

BUMP, our military listing is MUCH MUCH larger now but since i dont have my iPAQ Pocket PC with me right now, i cant get the new information.

BUMP

your people will rot in hell and bleed under the boot of the GLA

BUMP

Nice to see you still you my things :)

BUMP

BUMP

uh..forgetting to edit the post to include the NP?

ooc: (I though it would never come to an ooc:) If your at war with terrorist nations, then why have n't you retaliated against GLA Terrorists, who apparently assinated your royal family and terrorist attacked you?

WHAT!?*the armies make short work of the terrorists*...there's a new royal family*whew...

ooc: (I though it would never come to an ooc:) If your at war with terrorist nations, then why have n't you retaliated against GLA Terrorists, who apparently assinated your royal family and terrorist attacked you?

we have but our efforts were shot down (but good came out of it) but were coin after em again soon, ive currently got a little war probem to deal with before i send out anymore threats to terrorist nations harboring GLA terrorist forces

ooc: (I though it would never come to an ooc:) If your at war with terrorist nations, then why have n't you retaliated against GLA Terrorists, who apparently assinated your royal family and terrorist attacked you?

we have but our efforts were shot down (but good came out of it) but were coin after em again soon, ive currently got a little war probem to deal with before i send out anymore threats to terrorist nations harboring GLA terrorist forces

BUMP

BUMP

OOC: Not leting this post die are you credonia?

And I hope you don't mean cuddlebugs when you mention nations harbouring terrorists.

The conflict with terristan, Guerrillistan and the other nations have been resolved, so no i dont mean cuddlebugs.

Interesting

The conflict with terristan, Guerrillistan and the other nations have been resolved, so no i dont mean cuddlebugs.

Good.

BUMP

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(OOC: You know, I might just have to borrow this idea and mkae my own thread with the state of my nation..hrmmm....not a bad idea)

OOC: you should, and ive got quite a few other threads that are supplimental to this, mainly for the organization of my military forces, and then i have my foreign policies thread, its a long thorough list ;-)

OCC:I think I will..just within the next few days. And nice budget calc...seems to give a bit more then the other. >_>

OCC:I think I will..just within the next few days. And nice budget calc...seems to give a bit more then the other. >_>


Yea, its more accurate as well

ooc: one question. your relativly new so how did you get nuclear weapons? anyway, I don't know yo but you can add me to your partner list 8)

Me 2. Credonia I always wanted to be your ally. SO can I be on that list as well please?

Welp..think i'll do this in a few hours...

It's 5.28 in the morning...weee...

Nice way of organizing..of course but..yeah

Me 2. Credonia I always wanted to be your ally. SO can I be on that list as well please?


Sure, post here on this thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126841&highlight=

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I think yuo hvae too many troops given your size. Also you wont ever really need that many. At current levels we have approximately 1.3 million army personnel including reserves and this has always been sufficient primarliy because they are some of the best trained in the world. Better to spend money on equipment and training than sheer numbers.

Perhapps, but soon we will be passing the 1 billion mark, so o well. Weve got a $5 trillion budget so we will do fine.

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hey credonia, even i've got a temple in forum 7 now

BUMP

Will Restore Thread Soon