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I have always believed that homosexuals are an inferior people.

My reasoning behind this quite simple. I believe that, in the genetic code, there are two kinds of traits: There are superior traits, which help an organism survive and create a healthy population, and there are inferior traits, which hinder the organism's ability to reproduce and thus causes harm to the population of the particular organism.

Homosexuality, by definition, is a condition that causes an organism to mate with another organism of the same gender. Under those conditions, reproduction is impossible.

Therefore, under my definition of superior and inferior traits, homosexuality is an inferior trait because it harms a species' ability to reproduce. Using this reasoning, it becomes evident that homosexuals are genetically inferior to heterosexuals. When applying this to humans, it means that because of their genetic flaw, homosexuals are less then human. Therefore, not only are homosexuals undeserving of the right to marriage, but they are also undeserving of any other rights set aside for normal humans.

I urge all nations, for the good of themselves, to take steps to rid their populations of these undesireables.


~Kaiser Treize Jäkal, Aviean Empire

What are your views twards the retarted? Albinoes? People with O- blood? The red haired?!?

The Real Kaiser, the Tremalkien Kaiser would like to make sure that everyone realizes that Tremalkier shares no such views. All people are treated as they should be in Tremalkier, as the resources they are. Unless they are completely useless, which is hard to be, I mean, even a retarted person can serve as a human shield, in which case they are killed.

Surely, there is no reason to look down on these people, just oppress them all.

---Message from Argyres Foreign Ministry---

Therefore, does anyone with any sort of disability, even the most mild of learning disorders, qualify as an inferior being that ought to be disposed of? Your speech smacks of brute intolerance and lacks common sense.

Dimitri Tsanakas
Foreign Minister
Holy Republic of Argyres

Considering that overpopulation is a real problem in modern society, homosexuality, can indeed be a desirable trait. Also keep in mind that should homosexual couples desire to adopt that will ease the problem of overcrowded state-run orphanages.

Therefore, not only are homosexuals undeserving of the right to marriage, but they are also undeserving of any other rights set aside for normal humans.

I urge all nations, for the good of themselves, to take steps to rid their populations of these undesireables.


~Kaiser Treize Jäkal, Aviean Empire
In Rumaniac the people barely have any rights at all.
So what you're suggesting would hardly be worth trying.

Alshim Dahiz - Emperor of Rumaniac

I have always believed that homosexuals are an inferior people.

My reasoning behind this quite simple. I believe that, in the genetic code, there are two kinds of traits: There are superior traits, which help an organism survive and create a healthy population, and there are inferior traits, which hinder the organism's ability to reproduce and thus causes harm to the population of the particular organism.


Therefore, under my definition of superior and inferior traits, homosexuality is an inferior trait because it harms a species' ability to reproduce. Using this reasoning, it becomes evident that homosexuals are genetically inferior to heterosexuals. When applying this to humans, it means that because of their genetic flaw, homosexuals are less then human. Therefore, not only are homosexuals undeserving of the right to marriage, but they are also undeserving of any other rights set aside for normal humans.

I urge all nations, for the good of themselves, to take steps to rid their populations of these undesireables.


~Kaiser Treize Jäkal, Aviean Empire

OOC: Well someone has realized they have bad genes so they pretend nothing is wrong and start insulting what is in them. (Does the name Mr. Garrison from South Park come to mind?)

Well, you type awfully well for an idiot.

In other news today, Kahta decided that the decision to expand it's military by 100% 2 NS years was a good idea. The president stated that is Aviea will be struck with military grade explosives if they kill anyone.

Offical Respones of the S-S Government-

NO COMMENT

The Real Kaiser, the Tremalkien Kaiser would like to make sure that everyone realizes that Tremalkier shares no such views. All people are treated as they should be in Tremalkier, as the resources they are. Unless they are completely useless, which is hard to be, I mean, even a retarted person can serve as a human shield, in which case they are killed.

Surely, there is no reason to look down on these people, just oppress them all.

OOC: :lol: :lol:

Homosexuals actually work pretty well, especially the females... *cough*
However, it's better having them slave at a factory like the majority, than deporting them or similar.

Alshim Dahiz - Emperor of Rumaniac

*The press quiets down as Sniplidia's president Dmitiri Cassel comes to the podium, about to respond to Aviea's comments*

Sniplidia wants to make one thing perfectly clear. We disagree with the Kaiser of Aviea. While his points on homosexuality and how it is impossible to reproduce are valid, it doesn't matter if it will create offspring in this day and age. Humans are being created at an exponential rate and isn't threatened at all by homosexuality. It's on these principals that we say that homosexuality is a sexual preference and a personal choice that gives no danger whatsoever to mankind. We thank you for your time.

*Cassel leaves the podium while a staff member tries to settle the press down*

The Kaiser of Attica would like to let the Kaiser of Aviea know that if any harm comes to the homosexuals in Aviea, the Empire of Attica will be forced to intervene on their behalf.

Kahta will be doing the same thing as Attica.

The Ottoman Empire is prepared to immediately grant asylum to 100,000 Aveian homo-, bi-, and transexuals. In light of that government's indefensible violation of its own citizens' human rights, we withdraw our ambassador and are expelling Aveia's diplomatic presence in Constantinople.

Sultan Omer
Keeper of the Gate of Felicity

Her Majesty Queen Miriven Mi'Viana of Lunarion does not share the Kaiser's views. It is Her belief that homosexuality, under certain circumstances, can indeed be beneficial to a population and is not currently a problem. Lunarion is also willing to accept refugees from Aviea if they wish to escape the discrimination they face from their Kaiser.

~Her Majesty Miriven Mi'Viana's Foreign Offices~

Despite what many of you have said, I still stand by my beliefs, and I soon plan to enact a series of laws to put the undesirables in their place.

The Attican First fleet is being put into mobilization, and is going to head to international waters right outside of Aviea.

Due to their backwards, hatefilled outlook towards homosexuals. The Empire of Aviea has been added to the list of nations Haaregradia will not do business with. We wish all other nations would join us in imposing economic sanctions against this vile nation.

While under cases where the rights of individuals are not being broken, we would issue sanctions, when they are, force is deemed necessary.

The Attican First fleet is being put into mobilization, and is going to head to international waters right outside of Aviea.

I do believe you're being far too hasty.

Considering that overpopulation is a real problem in modern society, homosexuality, can indeed be a desirable trait. Also keep in mind that should homosexual couples desire to adopt that will ease the problem of overcrowded state-run orphanages.

I agree, overpopulation is a real problem and a good way to curve it is to exterminate unwanted fringe groups: like homosexuals, the mentally handicapped, red heads, albinoes and Jews...

Der Flugzeugtraegergruppeeins ist in Auslandwässer vor Aviea.

Translation

The First Carrier Group is in international waters outsive Aviea.

Several Aviean Luftwaffe divisions are on alert in Aviea's coastal cities, ready for action if Attica tries anything.

Due to their backwards, hatefilled outlook towards homosexuals. The Empire of Aviea has been added to the list of nations Haaregradia will not do business with. We wish all other nations would join us in imposing economic sanctions against this vile nation.

count us in. we may be a small country, but we will assist The Empire of Aviea in every way we can.

Iuthia thoroughly condemns this act against… oh screw it, it’s not like he’s the only nation that is actively against homosexuals. I’ll put it to you simple Aviea; we are adding you to our not very infamous Blacklist of nations to place economic embargos on, we will not trade with Homophobes nor will we invite you to political events we run…

At the same time we would like to condemn military action against Aviea, though we may stop condemning military action should it be found that Aviea kills homosexuals for being homosexuals. I’ve had enough of silly little wars over things like national policy.

I agree, overpopulation is a real problem and a good way to curve it is to exterminate unwanted fringe groups: like homosexuals, the mentally handicapped, red heads, albinoes and Jews...

I agree, overpopulation is a real problem and a good way to curb it is to exterminate unwanted fringe groups: like homosexuals, the mentally handicapped, red heads, albinoes and Jews...

I agree, overpopulation is a real problem and a good way to curb it is to exterminate unwanted fringe groups: like homosexuals, the mentally handicapped, red heads, albinoes and Jews...[/quote]
so when over population is a problem, you kill the people who don't breed?

ooc: i used to think bush was one of the few idiot leaders of a country...

I agree, overpopulation is a real problem and a good way to curb it is to exterminate unwanted fringe groups: like homosexuals, the mentally handicapped, red heads, albinoes and Jews...
so when over population is a problem, you kill the people who don't breed?

ooc: i used to think bush was one of the few idiot leaders of a country...


Are you suggesting that Jews, albinoes and red heads can't breed?
wow....... just wow.......

Ignore the n00b, guys, he's toast anyway. :wink:

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

no, in reference to homosexuals.

do you have something wrong with us?

on any nation that attempts to exterminate any part of its population. That is all.

Rbotekmaster
Prime Minister of the Holy Republic of Salivan

Considering that overpopulation is a real problem in modern society, homosexuality, can indeed be a desirable trait. Also keep in mind that should homosexual couples desire to adopt that will ease the problem of overcrowded state-run orphanages.

OOC:plus lesbains rock!

no, i am just mocking thet fact that someone wants to lower their population problem by killing off their homosexuals.

and what do you mean "toast"?

The Attican First fleet is being put into mobilization, and is going to head to international waters right outside of Aviea.

I am including the following units to be under your command for possible hostilities with Aviea.

5 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
5 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
They are fully loaded with missiles.

The Republic would like to spell out its particular opinion of this issue:

regardless of the Aviean position, military response is simply not the answer.

The Republic endorses the idea of cultural exchange, so that the Aviean society may bask in the enlightened glow of West Caesarean ideals and philosophy.

Certainly we will respond with military force on any aggressor to the sovereignty of the peaceful yet backwards nation of Aviea.

E. Orville Jamsbury,
Deputy Foreign Minister

In regard to the inhumane treatment of homosexuals by Aviea, Talaax has put an economic embargo on thier nation. No more Talaaxian products will enter Aviea until the inhumane treatment is stopped. We urge all other nations to follow suit.

In regard to the hostile and aggressive action taken by both Attica and Kahta, we urge you to stop the aggressive action. War should only be a last resort and all of the other possibilities available to you have not yet been exhausted. We strongly urge you to follow the example of Talaax and to withdraw your ships at least 500 miles from the international/Aviean waters boundary.

The Commonwealth of Wintrees agrees with the Attican Empire over the mobilisation of defence forces to combat the threat to the lives of the Aviea minority peoples. To support the Attican Empire we shall Divert Task force omega to the location of their 1st fleet. As well as readying the Queens Division for action.

The Talaaxian Government urges the government of WinTrees to reconsider their decision. War is not always the answer. There are many options available to you besides conflict.

We strongly urge you to follow the example of Talaax and to withdraw your ships at least 500 miles from the international/Aviean waters boundary.

My ships will remain in international waters, what is wrong with that? They can get as close as they wish as long as they are in international waters.

We strongly urge you to follow the example of Talaax and to withdraw your ships at least 500 miles from the international/Aviean waters boundary.

My ships will remain in international waters, what is wrong with that? They can get as close as they wish as long as they are in international waters.
You wouldn't feel just a little bit threatened if Talaax posted a fleet in international waters just off of your coast? Aggressive action such as this is not the answer right now. Exercise peaceful means before resorting to violent action.

I would like to remind everyone present that I never said I planned to kill or incarcerate any of the "undesirables." The worst treatment they will recieve from the Aviean government is deportation.

And my ships shall remain until we see to it that that occurs.

The Aviean Kriegsmarine's 3rd and 5th U-boat fleets have been deployed to the international waters.

U-Boats 120-140 have been deployed to guard the First Carrier Group. (Thats 20 Los Angeles class Subs.)

We urge both sides to withdraw forces away from each other. This dispute can be solved peacefully.

My forces will only remain until the people in his nation are safe.

Will a promise from the Aviean Government that no one will be harmed suffice? Aviea, are you willing to make a promise of that sort?

I promise, upon my sacred honor, that no fate worse than a deportation shall fall upon the undesirables.

~Kaiser Treize Jäkal, Aviean Empire

As I said, my ships will leave once they are deported.

The honorable delegates of Aviea and the Attican Empire must realize that, in the interest of the safety of these deportees, we cannot risk open war, for it will only result in unnecessary casualties. I believe that it would not be to Aviea's advantage, but rather would hurt their international image, to harm these people; for this reason, there should be no reason for any naval fleets to occupy these waters prepared for battle. I have the utmost confidence that this matter can be solved peacefully, and am willing to support the delegate of Talaax in the pursuit of a diplomatic resolution.

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Janine Valenova
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Lunarion

My ships are not in his waters, any warlike actions must be begun by him.

While the people of Plenzonia cry out to crush the disgusting illegitamate government of Aviea, our Premier wishes things to be dealt with peacefully for the time being.

Many prominent members of Plenzonia's Politikburo and Duma are openly homosexual and Plenzonia opens it's boarders to any refugee that wishes to flee the wretched nation of Aviea, be they homosexual, bisexual, transexual, transgendered, straight, or just happen to have an IQ over 60 and realizes that no sane person would remain is such an inferior nation.

Our Premier would also like to call all nations who wish to do harm to Aviea to hold off on any attacks until such a time where only the Kaiser and the boot licking swine who agree with him remain in his nation.

The Premier further issues that the doctrine of "No worse fate than deportation" be ignored as the bold faced lies that have plagued many nations in the past. Plenzonia will assume that death camps are currently being built and suggest that if other nations decide to call of the attack entirely, a multi-lateral unarmed diplomatic force be kept within Aviea to ensure that not now, nor will there ever be any harm done to said homosexual, bisexual, et al, people. Any harm done to anyone within this group will be considered an act of war.

Off of the AMS Wilhelm I (a Nimitz), 2 RF-111s (reconaissance planes) take off, with cameras, to search for possible death camps.

I believe it unwise to "assume" that Aveia is building death camps for these homosexual citizens, on the sole basis that it is just that: an assumption. As history repeatedly shows, assumptions, which have no backing, only fall backwards into conflict. Although I agree that all nations should adopt a pacifistic standpoint for the time being, I implore everyone to make no assumptions about what is or is not going on within Aveia without viable proof.

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Janine Valenova
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Lunarion

As an European nation, the Republic of Coreworlds seeks to admonish (read: scold) the Attican Empire for its warmongering activities and advises it to remove its forces to a more reasonable distance. At the same time, we request for Aviea to open its borders for a few Jedi inspectors to make sure that no undesirable actions are being practiced on the homosexual population. A Learjet with the Jedi will arrive within three hours of confirmation.

Slightly OOC: War is not the right answer, guys.

I have just signed the Undesirables Act, and it is now offical law within the Aviean Empire. It is as follows:

--Undesireables Act--

1) By the supreme authority of the Kaiser, All homosexuals, bisexuals, transexuals, the physically disabaled, mentally disabled, dissidents, etc. are now classified as undesirables.

2) All people classified as undesirables will be revoked of their Aviean citizenship.

3) All undesirables, due to their lack of citizenship, are to be deported.


~Kaiser Treize Jäkal, Aviean Empire

OOC: You are aware that if by 'jedi' you mean the jedi from star wars, I will simply ignore you?

My ships are still in international waters. I see no valid reason for me to move them.

OOC: I have no intention of honoring CoreWorld's request.

Aviea - Assuming you did not shoot down my recon planes, what did they see?

Aviea - Assuming you did not shoot down my recon planes, what did they see?

I did send up a luftwaffe division to "buzz" the recon planes, but none were shot down.

There were no camps of any kind. I'm not going to waste the resources required to maintain those on undesirables.

But what did they see? I am sure they would see something, maybe a tree or so.

Also, talaax, in a reply to your earlier post, you once DID post a fleet outside my waters lol.

They saw lots of urban environment with an occasional patch of forest.

any military? et cetera?

OOC: Yes, i did mean Jedi, but they're human refugees from the Purges and currently act as our diplomats and peacekeepers. Besides, they're the only ones who can build lightsabers, as no one else can, and make excellent negotiatiors, so i ignore your ignore statement.

Haaregradia will gladly accept all gays, lesbians, bis, TSTVs and political dissidents. We will send several passenger ships to accept the willing.

We still wait for a statement from the Aviens to accept or deny our requests for inspectors. We're neutral in all other respects.

Then CoreWorlds, you are ignored in modern RPs by me, as jedis are NOT realistic.

Then CoreWorlds, you are ignored in modern RPs by me, as jedis are NOT realistic.

aww man! :( :(

any military? et cetera?

Lots of millitary installations.

We still wait for a statement from the Aviens to accept or deny our requests for inspectors. We're neutral in all other respects.

DENIED

You can't deny me the ability to ignore other nations...

OOC: I meant to quote CoreWorld's post.

Very well. We will stay out of your affairs and if you wish to kill each other, that is no longer our problem. Farewell.

A Cruise Liner from the Talaaxian Cruise Line is now enroute to Aviea to pick up the quote "undesirables". They will be taken to Talaax then given the choice of settling there or moving on to other nations. Any action taken against the liner by any of the parties in the area will be seen as an act of war and reciprocal action will be taken.
The economic embargoes on Aviea will be lifted once the "undesirables" have left Aviea.

Aviea, just a reminder, if you choose war with Attica, you also bring war to your own country with Kahta as well. We have armoured airbourne, and airbourne infantry that can arrive anywhere in the world in 24 Hours.

In other news today, several RORO's were spotted leaving Kahtanian ports. The whereabouts of the first, second, and third infantry divisions are unknown. The first, second and third armoured divisions are also gearing up. Kahta does not wish to have any hostilites, but is flexing its military muscle.

Several Aviean Panzer divisions have been deployed to strategic locations within the Aviean Empire, and the Aviean Wehrmacht has been placed on alert. Several divisions of the Aviean Waffen-SS have also been deployed, and their current wherabouts are undisclosed at this time.

On a completely different note, the "undesirables" have begun their massive exodus from the Aviean Empire.

The TCS Liner Boru has arrived in an Aviean port. Aviean "undesirables" have begun loading onto the ship.

Aviea - Approximately how many "undesirables" are leaving your nation?

1.5 million

{Official message from His Serenity President Hart, to Aviea}

I am glad you have condemned the sin of homosexuality, but your decision to deport them and your other undesirables puzzles me. Why not enact a reform program for those with mental dysfunctions, and only deport the physically disabled? The reform programs in Automastan work quite well; any Avieans you wish to be reformed until you set up your own program are welcome here. We would be delighted to turn them into desirable citizens. However, if you do not wish to reform them, I would like to send five military transports to ship them to willing nations.

{The President turns his attention to the rest of the world}

Please, my fellow leaders, do not attack Aviea over something so trivial. What the Kaiser does in his own country is his business; you wouldn't want him (or me) to attack you for your misguided national policies, would you? Please pull back your fleets from outside Aviea's national waters, lest I feel compelled to send some of my own navy to defend it.

The Empire of Atlantisa is willing to accept all peoples with mental disabilites to conduct reseach into brain activity. We feel that our recent with our developments in stem cell technology can help these people.

A commercial airline will send four 727s to pick up those who are mentally disabled. The plane is expected to arrive in Aviea in 8 hours.

The Free Land Of Froggyliciousness is currently deporting "undesirables" as you describe, but not people with physical/mental disabilities. Wish you luck.

~Supreme Chancellor Lance Johnson

{Official message from His Serenity President Hart, to Aviea}

I am glad you have condemned the sin of homosexuality, but your decision to deport them and your other undesirables puzzles me. Why not enact a reform program for those with mental dysfunctions, and only deport the physically disabled? The reform programs in Automastan work quite well; any Avieans you wish to be reformed until you set up your own program are welcome here. We would be delighted to turn them into desirable citizens. However, if you do not wish to reform them, I would like to send five military transports to ship them to willing nations.

{official message to President Hart}

I have no plans on setting up a re-education program of any sort. I have no desire to waste the Aviean Empire's recources to try and reform the undesirables, when it would be easier to just deport them. But I appreciate the offer anyway.

~Kaiser Treize Jäkal, Aviean Empire

Deputierte Karl Strukk, an openly gay member of the Attican Reichstag, had only this to say:

"Both of your nations make me sick."

The rest of the Reichstag generally agreed. The Reichstag also barred trade with Froyyliciousness and Aviea.

Kill the gay man!


Deputierte Karl Strukk, an openly gay member of the Attican Reichstag, had only this to say:

"Both of your nations make me sick."

The rest of the Reichstag generally agreed. The Reichstag also barred trade with Froyyliciousness and Aviea.

Druze, again, is that IC or OOC?

What do you think?

:twisted:

Druze, again, is that IC or OOC?

OOC: Druze go take care of the legion of people that already want to tear your head off and leave this matter to other people.

IC but feel free to read the insulting parts of this OOC:

Most of the nations here are severely disturbed. It is sick disgusting freaks like you that make this world a horrible place to live in. Plenzonia is a peaceful nation, but it's going to far now. It is safe to say that the world, nay all of existance would be better off by scouraging intolerant, ignorant and flat out stupid worthless bags of flesh like you off the planet. The anger and outrage of the whole of the Plenzonian people are immeasurable, and the only thing that pacifies them is the knowledge that your outdated dogma and ideas are just that. Outdated. People like you will be forgotten if not spit upon as the world marches forward. You are disgusting.

Plenzonia would also like to thank the few compassionate nations involved, I'm sure some of you share and understand my feelings. And believe without listing the many nations who got tangled in this, you'd know which category you fit into.

A fleet of Plenzonian military transports and civilian luxury vessals, everything the population can spare is being sent to pick up these poor, poor people. We suggest you hurry this exodus before we decide to turn your "nation" into a river of blood.

Druze, do you really want me to assume it is IC?

---UPDATE!---

The last of the undeirables are waiting at the docks.

The TCS Liner Boru has picked up as many people as it can hold. 600,000 people, jammed in to the ship with some sharing staterooms with up to 25 others and other's sleeping in dance halls, corridors, closed down restaurants and such. The Talaaxian Government has sent a second ship, the TSS Viking to pick up the rest of the people waiting for evacuation.

Kahta has now demobilized one armoured and one infantry division.

---Update!---

There are now no undesirables left in Aviea.

---Update!---

There are now no undesirables left in Aviea.

Same here. Congrats.

~The Free Land Of Froggyliciousness