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Declaration of War on The Empire of Espario.

Bryn Shander
20-10-2003, 22:34
As of now, the Principality of Bryn Shander is at war with The Empire of Espario.

The Empire of Espario's racial death camps cannot be allowed to operate any longer. In response to Espario's utter disregard for the global community's condemnation of it's racial genocide programs, the 1st Space Fleet under command of Admiral Aseroth Xiloscient and the 1st and 3rd Terrestrial Armies under command of General Cain Darklight have been mobilized. All forces will arrive within 24 hours, with the first wave arriving in 12.


Forces en route:

1st Space Fleet:
35 Pazock Class transports
30 Papua Class supply ships
22 Musai Class light cruisers
06 Musai Class cruisers (Late production type)
07 Chivvay Class heavy cruisers
05 Zanzibar Class mobile cruisers
01 Gwazine Class battleships
196 Mobile Suits
100,000 troops

1st & 3rd Terrestrial Armies:
20 Gaw Class atmospheric attack use carriers
10 Jukon Class combat submarines
04 Prober Class reconnaissance submarines
02 Gallop Class land battleships
344 Mobile Suits
400 Magella Attack attack use tanks
160 Dopp fighters
40 Dodai YS bombers
08 Luggun reconnaissance planes
500,000 troops
East Islandia
21-10-2003, 03:28
East Islandia will host negotiations to end hostilities and the reign of the Polynesian death camps. As former sufferers of imperialism, we understand what Espario is going through, but we cannot condone their actions and instead urge them to revenge their ancestors not by imprisioning whiteys, but instead by rising above the stereotypes the former rulign class imposed and prospering peacefully and ensurign that they will never be dominated again. Also, we call for the Esparians to find the REAL perpetrators of the crimes.

worse come to worse, we will help you by taking off some of your prisoners off your hands.
21-10-2003, 03:30
As of now, the Principality of Bryn Shander is at war with The Empire of Espario.

The Empire of Espario's racial death camps cannot be allowed to operate any longer. In response to Espario's utter disregard for the global community's condemnation of it's racial genocide programs, the 1st Space Fleet under command of Admiral Aseroth Xiloscient and the 1st and 3rd Terrestrial Armies under command of General Cain Darklight have been mobilized. All forces will arrive within 24 hours, with the first wave arriving in 12.


Forces en route:

1st Space Fleet:
35 Pazock Class transports
30 Papua Class supply ships
22 Musai Class light cruisers
06 Musai Class cruisers (Late production type)
07 Chivvay Class heavy cruisers
05 Zanzibar Class mobile cruisers
01 Gwazine Class battleships
196 Mobile Suits
100,000 troops

1st & 3rd Terrestrial Armies:
20 Gaw Class atmospheric attack use carriers
10 Jukon Class combat submarines
04 Prober Class reconnaissance submarines
02 Gallop Class land battleships
344 Mobile Suits
400 Magella Attack attack use tanks
160 Dopp fighters
40 Dodai YS bombers
08 Luggun reconnaissance planes
500,000 troops


I DECLARE WAR ON YOU.
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 03:31
OOC: Ill post to both threads and see what happens...heh))

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:14 pm Post subject:

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**Official Response From Crownguard, Tercero Xavier Delryn**


This travesty of justice has gone on long enough. I will not kow tow to some backward polynesian nation, content with murdering its own citizentry. I have serious doubts about this so called "riot" and the numbers they represent, whose word do we have on it? Already, we have mobilized our CAF Red Wings (the ones NOT sent to defend Al Anbar) and the Imperial Legions (the "rougher" version of the Royal Stormtroopers). Our avowedly atheist nation cares nothing for a "Holy Empire" or the pitiful culture it represents. We are not interested in negotiations save TOTAL ABJECT SURRENDER. While smaller numerically, we are far superior militarily, economically, and technologically. Crownguard will in no way colonize this island, for we have no need for such a place. We will come in and show you what progress is, not some tin-pot dictatorship. However, this pitiful excuse for a country will be occupied by Crownguardian forces and any country brave enough to stand with us!

Stand with us, nations of the world! As for those in the camps, you have nothing to lose but your chains! Your lives are not your own, but take heart, you will breathe free air once more.

P.S. Have your protests, your racism, but we guarantee you will not see
Espario the winner in this recourse. Death claims us all in the end, at least let us meet him like human beings

-End Transmission-

*As General Bashkiir is in Al Anbar at the moment, the task for the liberation of Espario will commence under the capable leadership of Lt General Corrinos**
Setian-Sebeceans
21-10-2003, 03:32
The Sebecean people will also assit in diplomatic talks between the two nations. If worse come to worse, we will accept refugies from both sides UNCONDITIONAL.
Bryn Shander
21-10-2003, 03:39
I DECLARE WAR ON YOU.

I IGNORE YOU.
CoreWorlds
21-10-2003, 04:23
Here is what happened at the other post:

The CW multirole destroyer, Starfire has just arrived in international waters off the coast of Espario, when the watch officer just picked up a small boat by binoculars.

"Sir?" the WO called the commander, Mark Perry. "I just spotted a small boat about 2 km away bearing 10 degrees port."
Commander Mark Perry is an 40 year old man, with greying brown hair, steel-blue and a fatherly moustache. The Starfire is his first commission, though not his first deployment.
"Very well. Helmsman, change course bearing 10 degrees port."
"Course change, bearing 10 degrees port, aye, sir."
It took only a few seconds for the course change, and a few more minutes for the destroyer to steam for the boat. Commander Perry was astonished to see that there were 40 white people, half of them families, the other half looking like criminals, cramped on the forty-foot long boat. An Esparion gunboat was harrassing it, warning it to turn back or risk being fired upon.
"Comm, send a message to that gunboat. Cease and desist harassing that refugee boat or risk retaliation." Commander Perry ordered.
"Sending message now, sir." The comms officer replied. A few minutes later, a message was fired back, indigent.
"Who are you to order us about like slaves? This boat is fleeing justice, and will be apprehended. Will the nation of CoreWorlds please kindly keep it's long nose out of our internal affairs?"
The commander gritted his teeth at the audacity of the captain. "Fleeing justice, my ass. More like fleeing injustice."
Suddenly, the gunboat opened fire upon the refugees, spraying bullets all over the ship. Enraged, Commander Perry issued this next set of orders:
"Open fire on that gunship!"
The 5-inch double bow gun spoke its outrage upon the gunship, raining firey death on it, and setting it ablaze. It exploded, sending the first casualty of war by a CW ship to the bottom of the sea. The refugees were taken aboard the destroyer, and treated for bullet wounds. Out of the forty refugees found, ten were killed, including 3 children, and twenty others had various injuries.
"Send a message to all non-Esparion craft in the area." Commander Perry said, anger in his voice. "'One gunboat attacked civilian boat. Starfire retaliated, and sank gunboat. The Republic of CoreWorlds and the Empire of Espario are now at war with each other. Send assistance.' Send another message to the President, and tell him what happened. Tell him i apologize for starting a war, but i could not bear to see civilians killed."
"Yes, sir." the Comms officer replied, some sadness in his voice.
'Now it has begun.' The commander thought, as he ordered a 180 degree course change. 'we can only see it to the end.'
Setian-Sebeceans
21-10-2003, 04:31
The "Slet Fronteir Fleet" is being dispached to take refugees from both sides, unconditional. If my ships are engaged, the are ordered to fight back.
Mushroomius
21-10-2003, 04:34
As part of a term of the recently formed United Diversity Alliance, Mushroomius is to intervene by accepting refugees from both sides.

Should evidence of genocide be presented the UDA will not hesitate to enforce human rights.
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 04:35
*Aboard the nuclear powered Battlecraft (battleship sized hovercraft, riding not on a balloon like structure, but vectored thrust)CRS Vengeance*

*General Miguel Corrinos looks on the report and sighs, the first casualties of course had to be civilians. he turns to his aide, Major Ridgeback*

"All CAS fighters on alert, the war has been accelerated...we make landings at first dawn. I want interdiction flights ALL NIGHT, I dont want to see a single blood cell in your caffeine vessels as you take down ANY aircraft. I want to start with the use of Agent Blue to clear a proper disembarking point...let the bastards whine about chemical weapons later, this is no time to waste valuable soldier's lives fighting at choke points. Also, contact that Coreworldian ship, perhaps we shall talk strategy....I like their style."

*Ridgeback sends the appropriate response for a parley*
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 04:41
(OOC: Agent Blue is a deforestation chemical, NOT a chemical weapon. When he refers to clear a way, he meant as in clearing the jungle away.)
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 04:47
(Another quick point: Esperio's economy is "Imploded". That means zilch..collpased on itself. So, Im wondering how he came up with those odds earlier, since though were smaller, our economies are at least the equal of the US (in the real world). Care to wager who will win? I suggest Russia as a case study.
CoreWorlds
21-10-2003, 04:59
In the middle of the night, I woke up to the sound of my phone ringing. it was not your usual nice ring, but a harsher emergency ring.
"Yeah?" I asked, groggly. Then what I heard next woke me up fully."Oh, damn! Okay, I'm up."
I pulled on my Jedi tunic, my cloak, clipped on my lightsaber and walked to the Situation Room. Coffee was already prepared, one of the perks of being a world leader (albiet 18 years old). This is not going to be a good day for a young president in a young country.
The Secretary of Defense, an older man named Billy West, began the latest report.
"Apparently, at 2300 hours CW time (1000 hrs Espario time), the Starfire attacked and destroyed a gunship while rescuing refugees from it. This, of course, constitutes a declaration of war between our two nations. The commander has apologized very much so, but starting a war..."
"No, I won't relieve that commander of duty." I said, cutting him off. "What's done is done. What other assets can we send to the area?"
"Well, we just finalized a purchase of a battleship that is called Reign of Fire, but it will take a bit longer to stock and crew it."
"How much longer?" I asked.
"A few weeks (1 day, RW), at most."
"A few weeks? Okay, we'll wait. What about fighters?"
"Well, if there are any nations with bases near the Empire of Espario, we can ask them to open them to us."
"Okay, what about ground troops?"
"We have about 2,000 men ready to go, and 5 tanks as well. They can be airlifted by FedEx, but we will still need an airbase."
"Choppers?"
"Bear transports, Light combat. We need to buy some Apaches!"
"I'll put it on our next budget agenda. For now, we need to call up our allies in the war to gain bases."
"Are you also sending any Jedi?"
"Hmm, not really. we only have 60, so we can't afford to cut loose too many. However, perhaps we could send one or two to free the prisoners. I'll ask Dad."
My father is on the mini-Council of Jedi (three members), as he was one of the original people to come to CoreWorlds.
"Okay. So what orders do you have?" Secretary West asked.
To Be Continued...
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 05:03
(Hope youll respond at least to the call from my nation...though how SW got in here Ill never know)
21-10-2003, 05:06
OOC to all nations: WILL FINISH TOMARROW. DO NOT POST UNTIL I FINISH, PLEASE!

War doesn't wait for pleases...

and there's no crying in baseball
Bryn Shander
21-10-2003, 07:02
Eleven hours after the broadcast the 1st Space Fleet of Bryn Shander reached Earth and entered orbit above Espario. Within minutes each Musai deployed it's Komusai shuttle and two mobile suits, including 20 MS-06FZ Zaku II Type F2, 18 MS-09F Dom Funf, 8 MS-07B Gouf, and 10 MS-14Jg Gelgoog Jager.

Upon deployment, the MS loaded onto the Komusai shuttles at 2 MS each. The Komusai then began re-entry, followed quickly by the 5 Zanzibar class mobile criusers and hundreds of H.L.V. dropships.

Minutes later, the shuttles and ships were decelerating in Espario airspace, many of the dropships landing near concentration camps. The Komusai and Zanzibars headed towards as many of the concentration camps as they could, dropping MS about 2 miles from the camps. Upon delivery, the Komusai pulled up and headed back to orbit.


On the ground, the MS advanced with the infantry towards the concentration camps, firing on any military hardware and resistance along the way with Zanzibar support.
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 09:35
The Pantocratorian Imperial Navy has deployed HIMS Imperator Andreus, an Invincible-class aircraft carrier, along with the rest of its battlegroup, consisting of two Wraith class cruisers, five AEGIS missile cruisers, and two Oliver Perry class frigates, to Esperi waters. The battlegroup is under the command of First Admiral Lord Phocas. It is expected to arrive within the next 24 hours.

The Pantocratorian Imperial Defence Legions of His Imperial Majesty's Reserve have been called up to active service. The Provincial Legions have been mobilised, as has the Imperial Cataphracti Legion. It will take some time for these troops to arrive.

Psychotic President:
Espario IS willing to release 12.5 million which are, afther an independent research declared as officially innocent but a threat to Esperi's society and culture. IF you are willing to shelter these imperialist racists then we are willing to negotiate further. There still will be a total of 2,251,500 people in prison camps which are ALL classified as criminals and IF you you are considering an invasion these will be executed within the first few hours of the war.
-Secretary of External Affairs.

Since our allies have already declared war, and since this last minute offer for a compromise will not do anything to remove the existing criminal Esperi regime, and since accepting this offer would still leave over 2 million people imprisoned in camps, the Imperial Government cannot accept these terms. Espario must comply with every one of the demands made (OOC: in the previous thread). It has a limited opportunity to do so before shots are fired.

The Imperial Government is convinced that due to Espario's imploded economy, it will be able to affect no significant military resistance. We suspect it even lacks the resources to pay the guards in its prison camps to murder their captives. Nevertheless, we urge our allies to assist us in bringing this to a swift conclusion. We particularly thank the brave forces of Bryn Shander.
The Imperial Navy
21-10-2003, 09:38
An AI scout becon has been deployed to these nations to keep an eye on them, and make sure that the war does not get out of hand, and no human rights are violated.
21-10-2003, 09:45
Be it hereby declared that I, Grand Duke Owen DeSavona of the Grand Duchy of Savona, have pledged the resources of my coutry to the assistance of the Republic of Coreworlds and her allies. I regret that we cannot offer any troops, as we are an officially pacifist nation and have no standing military. If you or any of your allies require anything in this righteous action against these heathens, simply ask, and I shall assist in any way my small nation is capable of.

-Owen DeSavona, Grand Duke of DeSavona

~~~Great Seal of Savona~~~
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 09:50
Be it hereby declared that I, Grand Duke Owen DeSavona of the Grand Duchy of Savona, have pledged the resources of my coutry to the assistance of the Republic of Coreworlds and her allies. I regret that we cannot offer any troops, as we are an officially pacifist nation and have no standing military. If you or any of your allies require anything in this righteous action against these heathens, simply ask, and I shall assist in any way my small nation is capable of.

-Owen DeSavona, Grand Duke of DeSavona

~~~Great Seal of Savona~~~

Your Grace,

We thank you for your assistance and support in this matter. The Holy Empire of Pantocratoria will remember the friendship of the Grand Duchy of Savonna for a long time to come.

ANDREUS I IMP. PANTOCRATORIA
Bryn Shander
21-10-2003, 09:54
A few hours later, the Gaw carriers arrived in Espario, deploying MS and fighters for attacks on Esparian military bases. Once a significant area is secured, some of the Fat Uncles arrive and deploy infantry to further secure the area.
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 10:02
Since the Principality of Bryn Shander has such demonstrably fast method of troop transport, the Pantocratorian Imperial High Command requests its assistance in the deployment of the following formations. Bryn Shanderan assistance would mean that our troops could react Espario so much faster to assist in operations.

The formations which are ready to go, which would otherwise have to wait sometime to be shipped to the region:

The Imperial Cataphracti Legion
Troops: 1000
Standard issue: British Military revolver (vehicle crews only)
Vehicles:
290 M1A2 Abrams (3 crewmen per tank included in total number of troops)
65 assorted (non-standard) trucks, cars, and other vehicles to operate in non-combat support roles

The First Provincial Infantry Legion
(riflemen)
Troops: 12,000
Standard issue: M-16A2
Support weapons: Assorted (non-standard) grenades, standard issue British Military revolver or equivalent, M249

The Second Provincial Infantry Legion
(riflemen)
Troops: 12,000
Standard issue: M-16A2
Support weapons: Assorted (non-standard) grenades, standard issue British Military revolver or equivalent, M249

The Third Provincial Infantry Legion
(riflemen)
Troops: 12,000
Standard issue: M-16A2
Support weapons: Assorted (non-standard) grenades, standard issue British Military revolver or equivalent, M249

The Fourth Provincial Infantry Legion
(riflemen)
Troops: 12,000
Standard issue: M-16A2
Support weapons: Assorted (non-standard) grenades, standard issue British Military revolver or equivalent, M249

The Fifth Provincial Infantry Legion
(riflemen)
Troops: 12,000
Standard issue: M-16A2
Support weapons: Assorted (non-standard) grenades, standard issue British Military revolver or equivalent, M249

The Sixth Provincial Infantry Legion
(riflemen)
Troops: 12,000
Standard issue: M-16A2
Support weapons: Assorted (non-standard) grenades, standard issue British Military revolver or equivalent, M249

This deployment could take us weeks to managed without assistance from our allies.
Excalbia
21-10-2003, 10:41
(OOC: This is also posted in the other forum.)

An Official Announcement from Citadel Excalbia

In the name of His Imperial Majesty, David IV, we regret to announce that the rouge nation of Esperio has failed to respond to the ultimatum delivered by the allied nations and has refused to turn from its genocidal and racist policies. Our allies, the Pantocratorians, have proclaimed that a state of war now exists. While we do not chose to submit a formal declaration of war to the Imperial Senate at this time, the Holy Empire of Excalbia will never-the-less honor its commitment to stand by Pantocratoria and to defend justice.

In keeping with this decision, the Chief of the Imperial General Staff is hereby directed to dispatch an expeditionary fleet, consisting of the stealth carrier INV Glorious and her Carrier Battle Group, the INV Citadel and INV Landing Strike Groups (each consisting of one command cruiser, six Joshua-class cruisers and eight Wraith-class patrol ships) and the 2nd Imperial Marine Division. These forces are sailing immediately and are under the command of Vice Admiral Sir Derek Kunle.

Secure Transmission

From: VADM Kunle, CO TF Alpha, INV Glorious
To: First Admiral Lord Phocas, HIMS Imp. Andreus

Please be advised that our task force is approximately 8 hours behind yours and closing at 48 knots. ADM Lord Halton has directed we place our forces under your command as Allied Commander for the duration of hostilities. We are at your disposal.

Regards,
Kunle, Commanding, Task Force Alpha

(OOC: Anyone interested can see our navy's capabilities here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80517&highlight=carrier and here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70107. Our Marine Division's capabilities would correspond to USMC Amphibious Assault Division.)
Bryn Shander
21-10-2003, 10:47
We are deploying 220 Fat Uncle (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msgundam/fatuncle.htm) transports to Pantocratoria. They can carry 112 troops each, so it'll take 3 trips for the infantry, and probably a final trip for the vehicles. They can cruise at 0.7 times the speed of sound. Expect arrival within a few hours.
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 10:51
From: First Admiral Lord Phocas, CO TF HIMS Imperator Andreus
To: VADM Kunle, CO TF Alpha, INV Glorious

Excalbian support appreciated. Please advise when INV Glorious is in helicopter range of HIMS Imperator Andreus in order to facilitate an exchange of fleet liaison officers - an Excalbian officer to be posted on HIMS Imperator Andreus and a Pantocratorian officer to be posted on INV Glorious.

Enemy naval deployment at this time unknown. TF HIMS Imperator Andreus has deployed HIMS Constantine and HIMS Bosphorous, two Wraith class stealth cruisers, ahead of rest of task force, to avoid detection and act in early warning capacity. Suggest TF Alpha do the same. Once within aerial range, reconnaissance air patrols are to be launched by all carriers.

Regards,

Phocas
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 10:54
We are deploying 220 Fat Uncle (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msgundam/fatuncle.htm) transports to Pantocratoria. They can carry 112 troops each, so it'll take 3 trips for the infantry, and probably a final trip for the vehicles. They can cruise at 0.7 times the speed of sound. Expect arrival within a few hours.

Your assistance is most appreciated. Please advise when the transports have arrived, and whether your infantry have established a safe beachhead - we assume that since they are advancing towards concentration camps, that this is the case.

Imperial High Command, New Rome
Bryn Shander
21-10-2003, 10:58
OOC: Just a note: No way in hell that any of my forces can be picked up on any RADAR or electronic sensors thanks to the Minovsky Effect (http://web.archive.org/web/20010605004534/www.gundamproject.com/world/minovsky.html).
Bryn Shander
21-10-2003, 11:04
We are deploying 220 Fat Uncle (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msgundam/fatuncle.htm) transports to Pantocratoria. They can carry 112 troops each, so it'll take 3 trips for the infantry, and probably a final trip for the vehicles. They can cruise at 0.7 times the speed of sound. Expect arrival within a few hours.

Your assistance is most appreciated. Please advise when the transports have arrived, and whether your infantry have established a safe beachhead - we assume that since they are advancing towards concentration camps, that this is the case.

Imperial High Command, New Rome

OOC: Since my earthbound terretory is a few hundred miles inland in Alaska, just find out how long it would take to get to your nation at 550mph. As for a beach head, I doubt that there would be much fight , if any. Would you want to fight a few dozen 18m tall mechs armed with at the least 120mm machineguns? :p
21-10-2003, 11:19
The Empire of Dragoonis High has deployed the newly completed MTA-Titan Mecha Transport & Assault Vehicle "Gemini" to the region with its complement of 12 newly designed Veritechs and total infantry strength of 96 to aid in defense of retreating refugees and forces seeing to their evacuation. The data collected on this joint effort will be of great use to the development of further units
We have no intention on declaring war on either side but if fired upon the Gemini has complete authorization to retaliate against either side.

(Would send more but heck its a prototype)
21-10-2003, 11:50
In response to our alliance with the Empire of Dragoonis High, the Protectorate of Crusa has mobilized the 7th Tactical Air Defense Squadron to aid in the withdrawl of refugees from the sector. Like Dragoonis High we are only interested in assisting with the withdrawl of refugees from the area, any acts of war directed towards our forces will be responded to in like terms.

Total forces mobilized
20 Arc Cargo transports
12 VF-1A
2 VF-1D
1 VF-1S
42 Assorted Destroid units
300 Ground personel (Troops, medical, etc)

OOC(something I found funny about Bryn Shandor's last post and will create a note in similar ways) Veritechs, these unit have the capability to move at mach 2.5 establish a beachhead by transforming to battloid and stand about 50 ft tall. Destroids, the lumbering giants of the battlefield, infantry mechs, quite simply beachhead created by Veritechs, secured by dropped in destroid units
Excalbia
21-10-2003, 12:26
From: First Admiral Lord Phocas, CO TF HIMS Imperator Andreus
To: VADM Kunle, CO TF Alpha, INV Glorious

Excalbian support appreciated. Please advise when INV Glorious is in helicopter range of HIMS Imperator Andreus in order to facilitate an exchange of fleet liaison officers - an Excalbian officer to be posted on HIMS Imperator Andreus and a Pantocratorian officer to be posted on INV Glorious.

Enemy naval deployment at this time unknown. TF HIMS Imperator Andreus has deployed HIMS Constantine and HIMS Bosphorous, two Wraith class stealth cruisers, ahead of rest of task force, to avoid detection and act in early warning capacity. Suggest TF Alpha do the same. Once within aerial range, reconnaissance air patrols are to be launched by all carriers.

Regards,

Phocas

To: First Admiral Lord Phocas, CO TF HIMS Imperator Andreus

From: VADM Kunle, CO TF Alpha, INV Glorious

We should be in range of our aircraft. We are dispatching LCDR James MacCandlish to serve as Liaison Officer aboard HIMS Imperator Andreus and we stand ready to receive your LO at your convenience. We are dispatching Wraith squadron Alpha Bravo One - 8 Wraiths - to take a screening position in advance of the fleet. Squadron CO is CAPT Ben X. Hill aboard INV Nightflyer. Squadron is advancing at flank-speed - 60 knots. Standing by for further instructions.

Regards,
Kunle, Commanding TF Alpha

(OOC: Pantocratoria, if I get caught off-line at a critical moment, you are free to assume that TF Alpha will respond to your orders and include them in your posts.)
Espario
21-10-2003, 14:09
Two pages and Espario didn't had the oppertunity to react on this colonization. Please limit the amount of people who join your side; fascist imperialists! I do not want the entire world ruling me IF your armies overrun my innocent people.

The first victims have fallen! Although the government has not yet counted how many people have bravely sacrificed themselves for the Polynesian Empire!

Espario is mobilising it's small army (I will post more info about that later), and we are ready to sacrifice ourselves to defend our beautiful Polynesian children against the hate of a white man.

In Esperi's major prison camps riots have started again. Free our brothers and free the Polynesian people from this terrible regime! White men shouted, the overcrowded prison camp moved to the guards and killed them. The amount of victims are unkown yet it is known all 600 guards were brutaly slaughtered by White criminals.

As a response executions have started in 5 of Esperi's labour camps, thousands of criminals were shouting for mercy and for freedom... Others were trying to attack the execution squads.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/executions/nazishot.jpg
Picture showing executions, as long as the colonists have not yet "secured" our prison camps executions will go on non-stop.
Espario
21-10-2003, 14:51
Esperi army:
The Esperi army is an old but brave army, Espario never used it’s army but only a short time ago (ar least short for the history of the country) Espario built up it’s army.

BTW I also have a map of Espario but is on my computer. Does anyone have a site where I can browse it?

Infantry:

1,000,000 Commando troops, mostly ancestors of former Esperi local warriors. Now, they are the best trained soldiers in Espario.

http://www.lookinglassdesign.com/fijicoupmay2000/couppix/30patrols-bbc.jpg
A well-armed Esperi commando guarding one of the Emperors palaces.

2,500,000 Normal soldiers, well trained volunteers who are ready to sacrifice their life to protect our holy Polynesian soil against white imperialists.

http://www.lookinglassdesign.com/fijicoupmay2000/couppix/solcoup-smh.jpg
Soldier of the Esperi armed forces guarding his village.

500,000 Guards and Execution Squad soldiers they protect the prison camps and execute the rebelling criminals.

5,000,000 Para-military forces. These are not under direct control of the Esperi army but they are supporting the government, they are not paid by the government either and according to many (probably drugsdealers themselves) white criminals they are supplied with their weapons and money by smuggling drugs. The government denies every cooperation with the drugs dealing.

http://www.postcourier.com.pg/SIpix/solomons1.jpg
Paramilitary forces have said to assist anyone who is willing to sacrifice himselve to protect the independency of Espario.

Note: Espario hasn’t got an airforce but was planned to produce their first aeroplanes within a few months, unfortunately thanks to this horrible invasion plans have been delayed.

Soon more information about the marine will be given.
Setian-Sebeceans
21-10-2003, 15:05
Offical Response of the S-S Government-

We have chaged our stance, and declare war on Espario. Proler fighters, are taking out hostile fighter, and the new Echo bombers are taking out Esparian government and militiary positions. We order the government of Espario stand down.
Espario
21-10-2003, 16:00
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1010000/images/_1011289_tarakinikini_speight150.jpg
Left the general, right the Emperor.

Polynesian Peoples Esperi Newspaper:
Interview between he glorious Emperor and the leader of the armed forces ended up into a furious debate between the two.

Interviewer: Greetings Polynesian leaders, recently an alliance of many imperialist nations have declared war on our Empire will they be defeated?
Emperor: Certainly! The great Polynesians are will kill every single white man who dares to set foot on our soil!
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF):When I look at the situation at the moment it is clear that the imperialist countries are stronger, if we do not sign a treaty with them they will murder our beautiful Polynesian children, yet it is difficult to communicate with these white monsters
Interviewer: What is your opinion about the para military forces who are ready to fight our white enemy?
Emperor: These are no para-militaries really. They are citizens who are ready to give up their lives to protect our country against the white fascists. Our best fr…
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF): our best what? Friends? Man these para military forces are a threat to us… A serious threat as big as the white prisoners are, they are drugs dealers and they should be dealt with they are mudering our Polynesian people to get their own benefit!
Emperor: You are a coward! You are working on the same line as the white racists are, what have their propaganda done to you?
Interviewer: Please only answer the questions, is it true that the white threats in our jails are being shot non-stop by death squads?
Emperor: Death Squads? You are talking about well respected Prison guards who are trying to keep order in our camps! Prisoners are rioting as they have heard that they might soon be released which is foolish propaganda!
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF): Emperor you personally gave the order to shoot any white civilian in our camps and prisons, rich man could buy themselves a decent executions poor had to be shoot on the spot.
Emperor: Those are lies you know that!
Interviewer: Emperor this confuses me is it true you gave that order?
Emperor: I will not comment on your questions which are made by your spoiled-mind
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF): This brings us only in fury we have to get back to topic
Interviewer: Eh.. Fine. What about our glorious forces are they willing to protect our lands?
Emperor: Yes every soldier in the army is willing to protect and to attack the white, and racist criminals and soldiers!
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF): Yes they are but it is a matter of how long we can stand, we can’t sacrifice millions of beautiful Polynesian men! Besides emperor if you call our enemy racist, which they truly are it still sounds like irony into my ears…
Interviewer: What if our Polynesian Army will be defeated in combat?
Emperor: Why don’t you say your mother is white and your father is in one of our prison camps? Are you working for our newspaper? Are you trying to brainwash our Polynesians with your openly anti-Esperi views?
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF): We will not so fast be defeated the army can stand strong for some time and we can always retreat into our villages
Interviewer: Urban war makes a lot of civiliancasualties
Emperor: Our Polynesian comrades will not run like maniacs to the streets but they will grasp to their arms and fight alongside our glorious soldiers, civilians will be soldiers if the time nears.
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF): Our soldiers will watch carefully who we shoot, note that I WILL PERSONALLY give them the order to shoot any paramilitary carrying weapons. Their goal is to help the white invaders
Interviewer: About who are you talking?
Emperor: The COWARD general is talking about our strong men and women ready to fight alongside our soldiers
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF): I am talking about para military groups who are in fact drugs dealing street gangs.
Interviewer: Thank you for this interview MAY OUR EMPIRE LAST FOREVER
Emperor: VICTORY IS ON OUR SIDE COMRADES!
Leader of the Esperi Armed forces (LEAF): Please be realistic… Hai mapuehfs llett go of miee guarts!
CoreWorlds
21-10-2003, 16:35
Continued from last post...
"Billy, deploy 2,000 troops to the nearest beachhead, with two Jedi Masters, Joris Metao and Gareth Rydo. Add two F-14s, F-15s, A-10s and our newly purchased bombers." I ordered. "Ryan, call up any allies in the region and ask them for rights to any airbases they may have. Jack (Chief of Staff), alert the media that I will address the nation in a few minutes. Anything else? No? Okay. Make sure that our troops do everything they can to not harm any civilians in the area."
"Yes sir." Billy said, and got up to carry out the orders.
*sigh* Our first war as a young nation. I can only hope we help to win against the evil empire of Espario.

FLASH TELEX TO ALL ALLIES IN REGION
128 bit encrypted using best security software on the markets.

We wish to ask if anyone has built any airbase near the region, and we request permission to use and launch sorties from said bases. We also ask that you protect our destroyer, Starfire and transports as they pick up refugee laden boats. Battleship Reign of Fire to enter region within weeks to support combat ops. Republic of CoreWorlds out.
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 16:53
To: High Command, Republic of CoreWorlds
From: Imperial High Command, New Rome

HIMS Imperator Andreus is an Invincible class aircraft carrier under the command of First Admiral Lord Phocas. Also under Lord Phocas' command is the Excalbian stealth cruiser INV Glorious. HIMS Imperator Andreus is carrying her full complement of aircraft, but INV Glorious may be able to act as a temporary base for CoreWorlds aircraft, subject to confirmation from Excalbian Vice Admiral Kunle.

If basing your aircraft on our carriers is not an option, we will advise when a temporary airbase has been established once a Pantocratorian command base is established in Espario.

HIMS Imperator Andreus and her task force will provide all possible assistance to allied vessels, including escorting the vessels on the missions you mentioned.
21-10-2003, 17:46
OOC:
13,500,000 troops, Esperio? With an imploded economy?
CoreWorlds
21-10-2003, 18:01
Can the Imperator Andreus handle F-14s? Besides, we have more land-based aircraft than sea aircraft (but we're purchasing more), so i guess we'll have to wait for a forward base to be created before bombing missions can begin :(.
CoreWorlds
21-10-2003, 18:02
OOC:
13,500,000 troops, Esperio? With an imploded economy?
Not impossible (in the RW), but we believe it might be easier to take the military out.
21-10-2003, 18:04
Wyrmberg will be sending an initial contingient of twenty Wings of Drakeriders, making a total of 1,500 troops, to aid in establishing a beach-head.

This may not seem like a great number, but our Firedrakes have proven most useful when it comes to psychological warfare. In the heat of battle, Firedrakes can transmit their feelings of rage, fear and anger in what is effectively a psychic scream.

To soldiers who do not expect it, the effect can be quite shocking - suddenly feeling the emotions of another being can be quite unsettling, especially when those emotions are so negative.

Couple that with the sight of a formation of huge winged lizard bearing down on you, and you can see that the 'Drakes can quite effectively freak out any enemy troops they're put up against...
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 18:08
Can the Imperator Andreus handle F-14s? Besides, we have more land-based aircraft than sea aircraft (but we're purchasing more), so i guess we'll have to wait for a forward base to be created before bombing missions can begin :(.

She can (due to a refit), but she doesn't have the room for any more aircraft. INV Glorious is your best bet for basing those F-14s on a carrier.
21-10-2003, 18:36
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Espario
21-10-2003, 18:39
We have 1 million Commando's
2,5 million Normal Soldiers
0,5 million Camp Guards

5 million para-military forces.

37,500 Sailors

That makes a total of 4,037,500 official soldiers and 5,000,000 para-military forces which operate independently from the state but are in a way supporting the Emperor.

By the way the Leader of the Esperi Armed forces has been arrested for planning an overthrow of the Esperi democracy. He will not be executed but replaced by the current Chief of one of the para military forces. Soldiers are said to be unhappy with this (according to the independent press, yet this is all foolish propaganda. Para military forces and soldiers will fight side by side!
Espario
21-10-2003, 18:41
Please no:

Monsters or robots
no space technology
no future (past 2010) technology
21-10-2003, 18:42
((OOC: Aren't those numbers a tad large if you've only recently built up your army? And especially if your economy is "imploded"...)

<EDIT>Removed my space forces (even though I was only planning on using one ship, and it wasn't even getting involved in the battle). However, I stand by my Firedrakes - I've been using them in RPs since forever, and it doesn't give me any real advantage except surprise - they're a hell of a lot easier to shoot down than an F-14, the guys on them can only use hand weapons - machine guns at the most - and just like anyliving thing, if you fill them full of bullets they die. What's the big deal?

Anyway, have to go now and won't be back 'till tomorrow.
Espario
21-10-2003, 18:45
Well "recently"... That was quite recently for OUR history. Esperi's history goes back for centuries, long before the imperialists and fascists ever knew of the existence of our country. Recently might just be about 15 (RealWorld years). Did you know in what speed China has disarmed their People's Liberating army? Well they disarmed a LOT, it IS possible. If not I wouldn't post it.
21-10-2003, 18:48
OOC: Never said it was impossible. But, if they've only been around 15 years, it stands to reason they may be less well-trained than some of their opposition.
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 18:54
Please no:

Monsters or robots
no space technology
no future (past 2010) technology

OOC: I know that this kind of tech can be annoying, but the vast majority of posters on NS don't use modern "normal" tech. There are lots of stickied FAQ threads about wars with disparate tech - basically, people shouldn't hide behind their tech to avoid taking casualties, but disparate tech levels shouldn't really affect the outcome of the war. Tactics are everything. So yes, it is annoying, and if you feel someone is godmodding with their tech, then ignore it, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem for you to deal with reasonable posts using this sort of tech.
CoreWorlds
21-10-2003, 19:05
BREAKING NEWS from the CWNN:
Today, the President of the Republic of CoreWorlds is expected to issue a statement concerning the latest rise in tension between the Republic of CoreWorlds and the Empire of Espario. Oh, he is ready to issue the statement now.

[cut to Executive Mansion press room]

I walked to the podium, solemn and grim.
"My fellow Coredians. Last night, one of our destroyers saved an overloaded refugee boat from destruction by attacking and sinking a harrassing gunboat. We do not apologize for this action, for defending the weak and innocent requires no apology. Due to this action, the Republic of CoreWorlds and the Empire of Espario are now at war with each other.
We have joined a coalition designed to free the oppressed prisoners from their squalid state. We do not undertake this war lightly, for we all know what war can do if it goes out of control. We may be a small, young nation, but with our new allies, we can win this war! We can and must make the Esparions realize that human rights are to be for all people, and not just for a select few.
If only the government of Espario would have heeded the warnings of the international community, we would have avoided this conflict and unecessary bloodshed. But the government of Espario have chosen to disregard the warnings and so they brought this war upon themselves. We shall see it to the end, and justice will prevail. To the armed forces that i am about to send to battle: Good luck, and May the Force be with you."
As I stepped down from the podium, the applause was so loud, it was almost deafening. Now we shall see this war to its end, no matter what...
Pantocratoria
21-10-2003, 19:36
A Pantocratorian Cable News Channel Presentation, live from the Imperial Court of Christ Pantocrator, New Rome

A huge crowd is assembled in front of the gates to the Imperial Court of Christ Pantocrator at night, watching a balcony bedecked in the arms of the Holy Emperor of Pantocratoria, with a lone microphone standing in its centre.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/a_marrington/ns/pantocratoria.jpg

The doors to the balcony swing open, and the crowd starts shouting "HAIL CAESAR", "LONG LIVE THE EMPEROR" and "GOD SAVE THE EMPEROR". Two Varangian Guard in their dress uniforms step onto the balcony, followed by the Emperor Andreus himself. The Emperor steps up to the microphone. The crowd falls silent.

"Whereas the criminal government of the self-professed usurper emperor of Espario has failed to comply with the ultimatum issued by the Imperial Government demanded that it cease its illegal persecution of Esperi of European ethnicity, a state of war now exists between the Holy Empire of Pantocratoria and the criminal Esperi regime. This is a just war of liberation, which will see an end to the brutal tyranny which has oppressed ordinary Esperi of all ethnicities for too long now." the Emperor says, his voice echoing throughout the courtyard.

"As the defenders of Constantinople fought to the last man in the defence of the freedom and liberty of the Roman people against the tyranny of the Turks, so shall our troops fight and die in the defence of the freedom and liberty of the Esperi people, the which is the birthright of all human beings. The impure blood of our enemies shall water the fields of the innocents whom they have oppressed for so long!" the Emperor pauses, and the crowd roars.

"The sword has been thrust into our hands by our sacred duty to our Esperi brothers! We shall not shrink from that duty, we shall not abandon the cause of Esperi people. We wield the sword not just with regret, but also with martial prowess and courage unseen in other nations. We shall come like the Archangel Michael to Espario, and smite down the enemies of God who terrorise their own people and degrade our common humanity!" the Emperor concludes. The crowd erupts into the same chanting and cheering as the Emperor turns and walks inside, followed by the two Varangians.
21-10-2003, 20:02
Earlier today.
In a moving speech the Leader of the Allied States of Biel-Tan Eldar requests that, no hostile action to be taken without diplomatic talks. He urges all involved nations to accept his open invitation to join together on his Ulyanovsk nuclear carriers to discuss the issues ones again. All in order to avoid any bloodshed. He has ordered a small carrier force to be deployed in the region to be as an observer and mediator in any peace talks.
· 3 Ulyanovsk nuclear carriers
· 4 OHIO CLASS MISSILE SUB
· 3 VIRGINIA CLASS ATTACK SUB
· 3 D-036 frigates
· 5 Defense frigates
Were ordered to the area today.
( all are fully armed, Support/refueling Boats are present but not included. )
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 20:27
*General Miguel Corrinos pours over a report, after securing a beachhead (with Agent Blue of course) about 3 klicks from the main prison camps*

Visual/Radio Feed (helpfully provided by NNeSC)

Greetings, Coalition Members. My name is General Miguel Corrinos of the Royal Crownguardian Forces. As of currently 4:31 this morning, our troops are marching to secure the camps, we will be there within approximately an hr, and artillery and air strikes have already commenced bombardment. We will be securing these camps to prevent the mass slaughter of the prisoners. The takedown of the government itself will be secondary at this point. Operation Glidehook is in effect.

Good luck to all of you

-End Transmission-

"Good...very good...all units are ordered to secure the said camps. I want Royal Paratroopers IN those walls within an hr. No tin-pot dictator is going to get away with this"

**as he says so, VTOL cargo planes are already lifting to drop elite paratroopers into the said bases, they should arrive in 15 minutes. THe main forces (about 2 million strong, including light tanks) are marching to the camps..they should be there in about 1 hr**
Excalbia
21-10-2003, 21:52
Can the Imperator Andreus handle F-14s? Besides, we have more land-based aircraft than sea aircraft (but we're purchasing more), so i guess we'll have to wait for a forward base to be created before bombing missions can begin :(.

She can (due to a refit), but she doesn't have the room for any more aircraft. INV Glorious is your best bet for basing those F-14s on a carrier.

To: CoreWorlds Commander

Info: All Allied Forces

From: VADM Kunle, CO, TF Alpha

INV Glorious stands ready to receive your aircraft. We left port light on aircraft - 40 F/A-18s vice the normal combat load of 55. We can transfer some of our tiltwing aircraft to supporting cruisers, allowing room for 20 of your F-14s.

As our TF is approaching Esperi waters, our Joshua-class cruisers are prepared for missile strikes on all military targets. We have a total of 12 Joshua-class cruisers, each carrying 400 VLS missile cells (giving us a single strike capacity of 4800 missiles). These are conventional, satellite-guided missiles targeted and controlled by our shipboard artificial intelligence network. We request any available intelligence on primary and secondary targets. We would like to first eliminate all radar and defensive missile batteries, followed by military bases, camps, arsenals and other priority targets. We are also prepared to deploy our marine division under the operational command of the senior allied officer on the ground.

Please advise.

Regards,
Kunle, Commanding, Task Force Alpha
Shildonia
21-10-2003, 21:54
Please no:

Monsters or robots
no space technology
no future (past 2010) technology

OOC: I know that this kind of tech can be annoying, but the vast majority of posters on NS don't use modern "normal" tech. There are lots of stickied FAQ threads about wars with disparate tech - basically, people shouldn't hide behind their tech to avoid taking casualties, but disparate tech levels shouldn't really affect the outcome of the war. Tactics are everything. So yes, it is annoying, and if you feel someone is godmodding with their tech, then ignore it, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem for you to deal with reasonable posts using this sort of tech.

He's well within his rights to ignore any future tech stuff if he wants. Just because the majority of idiots belong to the "Lets Godmod and then plead SpaceTech brigade", doesn't make them right.
Also (this is aimed mainly at Coreworlds and Crownguard) remember that you can't post damages(ie. assuming you've taken a beachead, sinking gunboats, etc)

We warned you that the Esparions would massacre the prisoners if war broke out. We urged restraint, to allow the sanctions time to force regime change, but you did not listen.
Now countless thousands of the prisoners have been murdered, and to what end? The chance to trot out your armed forces for a minor fracas? I hope you can all live with the consequences of your rashness.
As was stated earlier, the Peoples Republic will not partake in military action against Espario, although we will continue the sanctions against Espario until further notice.
Bryn Shander
21-10-2003, 22:03
As more and more troops arrive, the Bryn Shanderan forces begin to move towards the capital.
CoreWorlds
21-10-2003, 22:17
TO ALL ALLIED NATIONS IN REGION:
Transports en route with choppers, 10 tanks, 2000 soldiers and supplies. Should arrive within a day or two (read: about 20 or so RW minutes). Lightly defended with a couple frigates, light attack choppers, and 5 blue dragons, so we need antiship/antisub support. Did a airbase spring up yet? Our bombers are itching to blow something up.

-Jedi Master Gareth Rydo, Field Commander

OOC: Shilidonia, all damages, territory taking, etc. are done from the prespective of the soldiers, sailors and airmen in the field. Besides, Commander Perry did not open fire until he saw that one gunboat attack the civilian boat. What was i supposed to do, send a message of protest and hope Espario answers?
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 22:28
OOC: I am nto posting any damages, if you did not see. I have yet to actually fight Espario is combat, I have merely invaded. I am allowing Espario time to post what occurs, within reason. Though, to be fair, prison guards agaisnt crack troops are hardly a match. If he frefuses to recognize this action, THEN I will assume damages, but I have yet to.
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 22:30
OOC: As to establishing a beachead, if you did not read EARLIER I said I used a chemical agent to clear the forest out TO make a beachhead. Unless they have fighting trees, I dont see how I have to wait till they respond to that. Vietnam had no viable counter to Agent Orange, how can they? Can they stop the chemicals from reacting with the flora? I think not (Agent Blue is named after a color for a reason...)
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 22:34
*Official Response to the "Concientious Objector" of Shildonia.*

We decided that waiting to be slaughtered like animals is worse than dying like human beings. I do not recall others ignoring the Nazi camps in the hopes sanctions would cause them to close. At least they now will have a fighting chance, as opposed to the suffering.

There are fates worse than death.

Tercero Xavier Delryn
3rd in Command of Crownguard
Military and Foreign Affairs

-End Transmission-
Bryn Shander
21-10-2003, 22:48
OOC: If Espario doesn't post military actions soon, I'll assume that there are none and will march into his capital.
CoreWorlds
21-10-2003, 23:04
OOC: and that will end the war real quick. Give him a bit more time. maybe he's doing homework or playing outside or something. If by 8:00 RW time, he still doesn't come back, we'll march on the capital together, okay?

TO ALL ALLIES:
Transports have arrived at the beachhead with minor losses (OOC:assume we encountered some gunboats and a frigate or two). Now deploying tanks, soldiers and logistics crew. Dragons and choppers are ordered to patrol ahead for enemy units, and engineers are ordered to clear space for a small forward airbase. Airbase should take about 2 or so days to build.
22-10-2003, 00:03
While the People's Republic of Cho-to-ki does not condone the humyn rights violations of Espario, the fact that Espario has offered to release all white males innocent of colonialist crimes (and that the great powers have insisted that even the colonialist war criminals be released) proves that the humanitarian rhetoric employed by the imperialist, neo-fascist republics were only a pretext to invade Espario.

We have decided to help defend Espario against Anglo-imperialist aggression and chemical warfare (claiming Agent Blue is not "chemical weaponry" is ridiculous; if it deforests trees, what will it do to humyns?). Five million soldiers from the Cho-to-ki People's Liberation Army have been sent to Espario, along with fifty modified MiG-29 air fighter. Attacks on any imperialist-constructed airbases will begin upon the arrival of the Cho-to-ki transports (OOC - which should be soon, as Cho-to-ki is geographically a southeast Asian nation, and Espario is a Polynesian nation, which isn't too far off).

Once in Espario, the People's Liberation Army will join with the Polynesian people, and fight among them. No amount of high-technology can defeat the power of the masses united.
East Islandia
22-10-2003, 00:22
East Islandia again urges the combatants to stop the fighting and bloodshed, and offers to hold peace talks on our territory. We urge all invading nations to cease their attacks, as well as for Espario to stop detaining white citizens without cause.
22-10-2003, 00:27
The People's Republic of Cho-to-ki endorses East Islandia calls for peace talks. However, in the probable case that the aggressors will not cease their attack on Espario, Cho-to-ki will defend it. Additionally, Espario has already agreed to release those white males who have not been found guilty of colonial crimes.

OOC - To the invaders -- I would like to point out that it is highly unlikely that you would not encounter popular resistance, especially considering that heavily armed, foreign and predominantly white soldiers would probably conjure up recent memories of white colonialism. Just a thought.
22-10-2003, 00:32
The People's Republic of Cho-to-ki endorses East Islandia calls for peace talks. However, in the probable case that the aggressors will not cease their attack on Espario, Cho-to-ki will defend it. Additionally, Espario has already agreed to release those white males who have not been found guilty of colonial crimes.

OOC - To the invaders -- I would like to point out that it is highly unlikely that you would not encounter popular resistance, especially considering that heavily armed, foreign and predominantly white soldiers would probably conjure up recent memories of white colonialism. Just a thought.

The West Coral Sea Military COuncil concurs with the Republic of Cho-to-ki. We pledge to defend Espario against any resurge of the white aggressors, but before that, we call for both sides to back down first and allow for a suitable time frame to let the refugees out of the country.
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 00:43
*response to earlier announcements*

If you dont recall, any "white male not accused of colonial crimes"= ZERO. According to Esperio, all white males are nazis and have to be detained, and then it seems, subsequently killed. Check their own reports earlier. So this nonsense about releasing refugees is blatantly false.
CoreWorlds
22-10-2003, 00:54
The People's Republic of Cho-to-ki endorses East Islandia calls for peace talks. However, in the probable case that the aggressors will not cease their attack on Espario, Cho-to-ki will defend it. Additionally, Espario has already agreed to release those white males who have not been found guilty of colonial crimes.

To: the Premier of the People's republic of Cho-to-ki and the leader of West Coral Sea
From: President John Chris of the Republic of Coreworlds

Contrary to propaganda possibly perpetrated by the Esparion government, we have a transcript of everything that transpired before the war:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78228&highlight=

What the Esparion government did imprison all white males over the age of 16 who had nothing to do with whatever foolish neo-Nazi right-wing group initiated the terrorist attack . Even 16, 17 and 18 year old boys who were originally in school were imprisoned. Reports filtering out by the refugees that were rescued told of beatings, tortures, even murders perpetrated and sanctioned by the government. Thus is the reason we have gone to war, and we implore you not to enter the war. Perhaps $100 million will sweeten the pot?
22-10-2003, 01:08
OOC
:?: is all this arguing really nessesary after all we all want a peaceful resolution and as the representative of the Esparion government did not respond to anything much less do anything most of us cant really do anything. If however Esparion government officals do post something anything that gives the rest of us a clue onto which or what they are doing that would be nice. Without that you really have no reason to join Esparion's side as they give no reason or explanation.
/OOC



- cant we all get along?
-if not my nukes should persuade you :twisted:
CoreWorlds
22-10-2003, 01:11
Not my nation, please. should $50 million be enough to keep you from attacking?
22-10-2003, 01:33
Not my nation, please. should $50 million be enough to keep you from attacking?

Dear god are you refering to me???
Im just trying to keep the peace and prevent random nations from joining the "war" ( so far Esparion's have not really showed up ). I am not in the conflict but will provide protection for any refugease that can get to my little fleet.
Bryn Shander
22-10-2003, 02:18
Any Cho-to-ki or West Coral Sea forces found interfering will be destroyed without mercy.
22-10-2003, 02:46
*response to earlier announcements*

If you dont recall, any "white male not accused of colonial crimes"= ZERO. According to Esperio, all white males are nazis and have to be detained, and then it seems, subsequently killed. Check their own reports earlier. So this nonsense about releasing refugees is blatantly false.

Ahem.


...

Psychotic President:
Espario IS willing to release 12.5 million which are, afther an independent research declared as officially innocent but a threat to Esperi's society and culture. IF you are willing to shelter these imperialist racists then we are willing to negotiate further. There still will be a total of 2,251,500 people in prison camps which are ALL classified as criminals and IF you you are considering an invasion these will be executed within the first few hours of the war.
-Secretary of External Affairs.

Since our allies have already declared war, and since this last minute offer for a compromise will not do anything to remove the existing criminal Esperi regime, and since accepting this offer would still leave over 2 million people imprisoned in camps, the Imperial Government cannot accept these terms. Espario must comply with every one of the demands made (OOC: in the previous thread). It has a limited opportunity to do so before shots are fired.

As you can see, any attempt at compromising with Espario were rejected, while Espario was willing to do everything short of complete release of literally colonialist war criminals.

To Bryn Shander -- We return your arrogant rhetoric in kind - "interfering" Bryn Shander aggressor forces will be treated as if they had invaded Cho-to-ki soil. Your perceived military power is only a paper tiger, and will instantly shred to pieces upon contact with a popular people's war. We have outmaneuvered technologically superior forces before when we were a young nation; our military technology today is now mostly equal with the rest of the world. Desist your aggression or face ruin on Polynesian soil.
22-10-2003, 02:54
((OOC: For the love of whatever deity, if any, you hold dear, what is going on with this "If Esperio doesn't post within x hours we'll say there was no resistance and claim victory" stuff? Ever consider that maybe - just maybe he has a life outside NationStates? Or that he might be in a different time-zone to you- even in a different nation - and thus asleep right now? Ye gods, be patient will you?))

((OOC: Sorry, not meaning to rant, but the same thing's happened to me quite often - just because I'm English and most peopleon here are from the US, Australia or Canada, quite often I'm in an RP and people make assumptions because I'm away for a few hours when they'reon - generally because those hours are between 3am and 3pm where I am, even if they're between 9pm and 9am where they are. It gets annoying.))

((OOC: End of rant))
22-10-2003, 02:59
...

Psychotic President:
Espario IS willing to release 12.5 million which are, afther an independent research declared as officially innocent but a threat to Esperi's society and culture. IF you are willing to shelter these imperialist racists then we are willing to negotiate further. There still will be a total of 2,251,500 people in prison camps which are ALL classified as criminals and IF you you are considering an invasion these will be executed within the first few hours of the war.
-Secretary of External Affairs.

Since our allies have already declared war, and since this last minute offer for a compromise will not do anything to remove the existing criminal Esperi regime, and since accepting this offer would still leave over 2 million people imprisoned in camps, the Imperial Government cannot accept these terms. Espario must comply with every one of the demands made (OOC: in the previous thread). It has a limited opportunity to do so before shots are fired.

As you can see, any attempt at compromising with Espario were rejected, while Espario was willing to do everything short of complete release of literally colonialist war criminals.


OOC
Wow this wont end well. Since no nation is willing to discuss this diplomaticly my government will withdraw all forses from the area. we will intervine if asked to. However since Espario has not really perticipated in this forum i dont see why Cho-to-ki should interfear. But then again... its all ... :roll:
/OOC
the republic Biel-Tan Eldar will henceforth leave the are of conflict.
22-10-2003, 03:01
To continue, since the Cho-to-ki People's Liberation Army would not likely win a conventional battle between the forces of the coalition, we will follow our usual strategy of "People's War" -- we will become the "fish among the sea of the masses" so to speak, and strike out at enemy forces that try to establish control in the countryside and larger sized villages. We will do so by become one with the Polynesian masses, by considering the Polynesian struggle our own, and treating Espario as if it were our own country. Furthermore, supply lines to maintain occupations of cities (assuming that the forces of the coalition reach the cities) will be struck, sabotaged, and attacked. However, because Cho-to-ki has had time to develop since our last war, we now have the technology to shoot down helicopters (whether waging chemical warfare with Agent Blue, or transporting troops) and engage in air defense of Espari airspace.
22-10-2003, 03:02
OOC:


As you can see, any attempt at compromising with Espario were rejected, while Espario was willing to do everything short of complete release of literally colonialist war criminals.
Yes, because certain people see it as wrong to bargain with people's lives. How many of those remaining 2 mil do you honestly believe are war criminals?


To Bryn Shander -- We return your arrogant rhetoric in kind - "interfering" Bryn Shander aggressor forces will be treated as if they had invaded Cho-to-ki soil. Your perceived military power is only a paper tiger, and will instantly shred to pieces upon contact with a popular people's war. We have outmaneuvered technologically superior forces before when we were a young nation; our military technology today is now mostly equal with the rest of the world. Desist your aggression or face ruin on Polynesian soil.

Don't get involved when you don't fully understand the situation. Also,remember that they have allies. Threatening him might be a very bad idea, tactically speaking - would you really like to have everyone now attacking Esperio also attacking you?

<Edit to put in OOC marker>
22-10-2003, 03:05
OOC:
... we now have the technology to shoot down helicopters (whether waging chemical warfare with Agent Blue, or transporting troops)...

"Agent Blue" is not chemical warfare- itis simply a defoliant for clearing jungle foliage to make a beach-head. It does not (as far as anyone hasbeen told) affect people.
22-10-2003, 03:14
OOC -

Oh, crap. Just saw the "OOC" thing.


As you can see, any attempt at compromising with Espario were rejected, while Espario was willing to do everything short of complete release of literally colonialist war criminals.
Yes, because certain people see it as wrong to bargain with people's lives. How many of those remaining 2 mil do you honestly believe are war criminals?

Espario has population of one billion people, and two million would only be 0.2% of the entire Espari population. Certainly a large force would be required to maintain colonial control a nation of one billion. Also, keep in mind that this is a post-revolutionary period for Espario, which is certainly going to involve vengeful feelings towards the former rulers.

Regardless of the situation, invasion is not an acceptable option to solve this problem. Diplomacy is a better option, but should the aggressors refuse to accept diplomacy, Cho-to-ki will defend Espario despite its faults.

Not to mention, it's pretty lame for a bunch of nations to gang up on one other, and then nearly declare victory because the other nation isn't on the computer as often.

Don't get involved when you don't fully understand the situation. Also, remember that they have allies. Threatening him might be a very bad idea, tactically speaking - would you really like to have everyone now attacking Esperio also attacking you?

"Don't fully understand the situation"? I remember the first thread by Espario about a revolution against colonialism. The situation seems simple to me; a few people are hopping mad about "reverse racism" and launched an attack to "punish" Espario.

And, yeah. Cho-to-ki has faced invasion before. We got this stuff covered.
22-10-2003, 03:25
OOC:
... we now have the technology to shoot down helicopters (whether waging chemical warfare with Agent Blue, or transporting troops)...

"Agent Blue" is not chemical warfare- itis simply a defoliant for clearing jungle foliage to make a beach-head. It does not (as far as anyone hasbeen told) affect people.

OOC:

The fact that said "defoliant" is a not-so-subtle reference to Agent Orange, and Agent Orange has caused increased cancer rates and birth deformities, I don't see why "Agent Blue" would be any different.

Plus, it freakin' kills leaves! What do you expect it do to humyns? Cure cancer?
CoreWorlds
22-10-2003, 03:28
Due to the fact that large numbers of Cho-to-kian troops were reported entering the country, Field Commander Gareth Rydo ordered the troops to go on the defensive and never attack the Cho-ki units unless attacked themselves. All air units were recalled to the nearest base not on Espario, as 50 Mig-29 fighters are too much for our fighters to handle. The F-14s and -15s will only pick them off one by one, and never engage without allied air support. The A-10 will also be recalled, as we are not the United States. The battleship Reign of Fire will launch in a couple of weeks (read: 1 NR day) with additional frigates and destroyers (2 each) to support sea combat ops. Additional Jedi Masters will arrive with the fleet to help out and decided which is the enemy and which are clearly civilians. The troops are also under orders to attack only the death camps and liberate the people, and if necessary, evacuate white people to waiting transports. We do not want a Vietnam on our hands.
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 03:30
*Response to Cho to Ki*


Crownguard is not in this affair to conquer said nation. We are limiting our military resources ONLY to seizing these death camps and liberating the people within. We have no intentions of keeping ANY of the land as a colony. We will not stand idly by as innocents die however, we will see that these people are released as regfugees to go where they wish in the world with their families. As to Agent Blue, it is only a deforestation chemical, it does not, repeat NOT affect humans in any way..unless of course you have roots. The rest of the struggle we will not be embroiled in, that I leave to others.

A nation willing to imprison people based on race is sickening, ESPECIALLY when they have the GALL to call them Nazis, while they perform the actions the Nazis did IN EVERY WAY. I do not know that either side is right, but I know that much is fact. As to colonist war criminals, in Esperio's own words, every white man is a criminal. Therefore, we will not accept this lie that they will release refugees while murdering more.

Respectfully Yours,
Tercero Xavier Delryn
3rd in Command of Crownguard
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs
22-10-2003, 04:05
Not to mention, it's pretty lame for a bunch of nations to gang up on one other, and then nearly declare victory because the other nation isn't on the computer as often.


If you'd actually read my other post, yo'd see that I realise how stupid that is and condemned it myself. However, what you don't seem to see is that the Esperi regieme is as bad as those they claim to be retaliating to,if not worse.

If Hitler had been black, he would have been from Esperio. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but there you are.

Oh, and I object to the term "reverse racism". Whenever someone discriminates against someone else due to their skin colour, that's racism. Just because the discriminator is black and the discriminatee is white, doesn't make it "reverse" - I object to the implication that it is "normal" for whites to discriminate against blacks, and "reverse" for blacks to discriminate against whites.

And yeah, I hate the terms "blacks" and "whites", but they are quicker to type that "caucasians" and "non-caucasians".
22-10-2003, 04:11
OOC:

A nation willing to imprison people based on race is sickening, ESPECIALLY when they have the GALL to call them Nazis, while they perform the actions the Nazis did IN EVERY WAY.
This is the main point, isn'tit? The fact that they have the nerve to commit the hypocrisy of claiming that "all white men are Nazis" when their actions mimic the Nazis IN EVERY RESPECT apart - sofar - from the Gas chambers. The Esperi government appears to be content to use copious amounts of bullets.

I do not know that either side is right, but I know that much is fact. As to colonist war criminals, in Esperio's own words, every white man is a criminal.
Exactly. Their "crime" is having white skin. In Esperio, this crime appears to be punishable by death.
22-10-2003, 04:59
OOC

What? What happened during the colonial period was Nazi-esque. This is simply the "occupation of Germany," so to speak. Would you object to the de-nazification and de-militarization of Nazi Germany?

Now, I'm not making an equivalent to Espario former arbritary detention of whites and de-nazification of Nazi Germany, but it would be silly to ignore that a) Hitler was performing genocide of a traditionally oppressed groupo while Espario is only having an act of revenge against former oppressors, and b) Espario is not executing every white persyn, much less imprisoning every one. From one of my more recent posts, around 10 million have been released. Don't you think that some measure of "occupation" of those that prove a threat to newly-liberated Espario is neccessary to prevent the re-colonialism of said nation? Think of Reconstruction after the Civil War to prevent slavery from being re-instituted.
22-10-2003, 06:48
:roll: Not that I wish to get involved... but it seems to me that agent blue is quite similar to agent orange... Agent blue is also known as cacodylic acid, and though it remains an excellent herbicide, it has several negative effects on humans. In other words, if you're dusting your troops with this stuff to clear some shrubs, they may die in a matter of weeks...
Here's where I got my information:
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/24d-captan/cacodylic-acid-ext.html
:?
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 06:57
OOC: Its a modified form...obviously chemical weapons have advanced in the 30 years or so since Vietnam. And unlike the US, we dont have many protesters (see our national animal). THe population of our country is completely in concord with our actions, as all are indoctrinated early as to our values. Finally, the chemical agent was targeted in a localized area...unless they live in treehouses, they will be fine, even if, IF it were dangerous (which it is not)
Excalbia
22-10-2003, 07:48
While the People's Republic of Cho-to-ki does not condone the humyn rights violations of Espario, the fact that Espario has offered to release all white males innocent of colonialist crimes (and that the great powers have insisted that even the colonialist war criminals be released) proves that the humanitarian rhetoric employed by the imperialist, neo-fascist republics were only a pretext to invade Espario.

We have decided to help defend Espario against Anglo-imperialist aggression and chemical warfare (claiming Agent Blue is not "chemical weaponry" is ridiculous; if it deforests trees, what will it do to humyns?). Five million soldiers from the Cho-to-ki People's Liberation Army have been sent to Espario, along with fifty modified MiG-29 air fighter. Attacks on any imperialist-constructed airbases will begin upon the arrival of the Cho-to-ki transports (OOC - which should be soon, as Cho-to-ki is geographically a southeast Asian nation, and Espario is a Polynesian nation, which isn't too far off).

Once in Espario, the People's Liberation Army will join with the Polynesian people, and fight among them. No amount of high-technology can defeat the power of the masses united.

OOC: Since Esperio is obviously off-line and many of the other Allies are not IC at the moment, I think it is only fair to withhold further IC actions on my part. However, I would like to point out a few things to Cho-to-ki.

1. The Esperi offer to release a small percentage of those they imprisoned - after stripping them of all property and putting them through torture is the proverbial "day late, Euro short." Esperi imprisoned an entire class of people - all white males over 16 - regardless of any specific criminal allegations. Such a move is (a) idiotic (b) racist (c) genocidal and (d) just plain rude on the face of it. There is no excuse for it.

2. My nation is multi-ethnic and has been welcoming immigrants for a century. In fact the CO of Task Force Alpha is Vice Admiral Derek Kunle, the son of Ayo Kunle, a Nigerian immigrant to Excalbia. So watch your presumptions about who the allies are.

3. Quasi-IC, in order for your forces to get Esperio, they have to fly over our task force. I - not counting the other allies - have a carrier with F/A-18s, a force of 12 missile cruisers capable of firing a total of 4800 in one launch - and that includes anti-aircraft missiles - and another force of 16 patrol ships capable of a total single strike of 800 missiles. That does not include the ships specifically escorting our carrier. We can fire a total of about 7000 missiles at one time. With that capacity, your troop transports are highly unlikely to reach Esperio.

4. I have no desire to occupy Eperio - I only want to topple free the prisoners and topple the tyrant in order to allow a genuine democratic government to be put in place.

5. For Esperio: I would still be willing to intercede to halt the invasion if
(a) all prisoners are released
(b) all property is restored or compensation is paid
(c) all citizens who wish to leave are allowed to freely do so
(d) your emperor is removed and handed over to the ICC or to a UN tribunal for trial
(e) fair and open elections are scheduled within three months
Bryn Shander
22-10-2003, 07:49
OOC:
The fact that they have the nerve to commit the hypocrisy of claiming that "all white men are Nazis" when their actions mimic the Nazis IN EVERY RESPECT apart - sofar - from the Gas chambers.

Only because they couldn't pay the gas bill with their economy... :wink:
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 07:53
*Well, you may have a problem because I already sent forces to occupy the camps and free the prsioners ourselves. Then we will withdraw after evacuating them, the rest I leave up to the alliance. TO be sure, we will NOT fail to release them...*
Bryn Shander
22-10-2003, 07:56
OOC: My spaceborne forces should have already secured many of the camps.
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 07:58
OOC: According to Esperio..its supposed to be modern tech/near future (2010)
Bryn Shander
22-10-2003, 08:07
OOC: Esperio can complain about my semi-future tech all he wants, but I care as much about his opinion as he does about the opinions of those that he's excecuted. It takes me three and a half days just to get from my colonies(at L2(Other side of the moon.)) to Earth. My tech isn't that advanced.
22-10-2003, 13:43
OOC: Esperio can complain about my semi-future tech all he wants, but I care as much about his opinion as he does about the opinions of those that he's excecuted. It takes me three and a half days just to get from my colonies(at L2(Other side of the moon.)) to Earth. My tech isn't that advanced.

OOC: Come on now - don't mix IC and OOC. Gets messy.

He executed the prisoners In Character. He specified that this is a modern-tech RP Out Of Character - and his IC persona isn't the same as his OOC one (at least I hope not, for his sake). Thus the quy who executed the white men is, in effect, a different person to the one who requested no spacetech.
Don't carry over IC grudges into the OOC world.

Oh, and if you continue to use your space-tech, he'll be within his rights to simply IGNORE you, and if he does that there's pretty much no point you being in this.
I was going to use (very limited) space-tech, but since his request I took that back. I suggest you do the same.
East Islandia
22-10-2003, 14:51
ONce again, East Islandia calls for all combatants to pull back or stop int heir tracks and begin peace talks. THis invasion and the suppression of human rights can be solved through talk, not assault rifles and such. we also call for UN observers and a peacekeeping force until then.

We will hold talks on our islands; we hope to see everyone there.
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 15:10
ONce again, East Islandia calls for all combatants to pull back or stop int heir tracks and begin peace talks. THis invasion and the suppression of human rights can be solved through talk, not assault rifles and such. we also call for UN observers and a peacekeeping force until then.

We will hold talks on our islands; we hope to see everyone there.

Espario was given the chance to negotiate! It refused to participate in talks, refused to admit UN observers, and refused to cease its human rights abuses. The time for talking has passed, every moment wasted is another innocent Esperi in the gas chambers!
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 15:11
OOC: AAAAAAAAAAAARGH! IE crashes kill long posts! Sigh.

I've spoken to Espario OOC via telegram - he's a regular guy OOC, so there's no need for hostility.
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 15:29
To: The Government of Cho-to-ki

We advise against your decision to assist the genocidal Esperi regime. We feel it is ill-advised and based on Esperi propaganda. We also feel it would be military suicide.

The Esperi regime's only offer to avert this war was to expel 12 million Esperi of European ethnicity currently being illegally detained in death camps as refugees, and to keep over 2 million innocent Esperi men of European ethnicity as hostages. In exchange for being allowed to keep 1 in 7 white Esperi men in their camps, and being allowed to send the remaining 6 in 7 to foreign countries, the Esperi government would make the international community complicitous in its policies of racial hatred! This was not a reasonable offer to avert war. Those men whom Espario "generously" offered to expel from their borders deserve the right to live in Espario with their families, in their homeland, alongside their Polynesian compatriots as equal citizens, not to be scattered to the winds, their families torn asunder, their way of life destroyed! And this says nothing of the men who would remain in Espario's death camps as hostages against any action from nations with a moral backbone.

This war is not intended to re-establish a "white colonialist" Esperi government. It is intended to free all political prisoners, to end the genocide in Espario, and to remove the current Esperi regime, to be replaced by a democratically elected government in UN sanctioned elections. Pantocratoria and its allies have no territorial, economic, or imperialist ambition in Espario.

Finally, Cho-to-ki has yet to announce the deployment of any naval assets to the region. It has promised 5 million men to assist in the criminal Esperi regime's desperate bid to remain in power. Moving 5 million men is best described as a logistical near impossibility. To do so without a significant naval escort would be suicide - Lord Phocas' blockade, consisting of HIMS Imperator Andreus and her task force, and INV Glorious and her task force, has arrived in the region. Any transport ships which attempted to run this blockade would suffer severe losses - Lord Phocas is under orders to sink any vessels which are moving to the reinforcement, resupply, or other support of the existing Esperi regime.

We would welcome Cho-to-ki observers to make sure that Pantocratorian forces only select legitimate regime targets - that is how you would best serve the Esperi people! Any effort to support the existing government would be extremely costly in terms of both the lives of your soldiers and sailors, and the logistics cost of moving five million troops over an ocean, and all of this would be in the name of propping-up a Nazi-like dictatorship whose version of diplomatic compromise would make us complicitous in the worst acts of genocide committed since the Second World War!

In the name of your international reputation and the lives of your soldiers, we ask you to reconsider your ill-advised decision!

Imperial High Command, New Rome
Jeruselem
22-10-2003, 15:39
The Queen of Jeruselem has issued a royal order to all Espario citizens residing in Jeruselem. They are to return to home within 72 hours pending the pending conflict in Espario with some it's allied nations like Pantocratoria.

The government does not agree with the current policies of Espario and this action is to protect Espario citizens from any harm from locals who share the sentiment of the alliance against Espario.

We are not participating in the potential conflict caused by these camps.

There are no citizens of our nation in Espario as they were sent home as soon as we were informed about the camp policies.
Espario
22-10-2003, 16:27
You see I have a life, and a whole lot of homework and friends outside nationstates. At page three I wanted to react on the post that you were moving towards the major camps. But my server broke down and I wasn't able to post it, besides my capital has around 30 million people do REALLY BELIEVE that NONE will fight you if you enter? This is not Iraqi Freedom and there is no "REMOVE ALL ESPERI PEOPLE CHEAT" either.

What I wanted to say was (at page 3):
Afther he heard the enemy was only 1 hour away from our 4 major camps. One of the guards asked what to do with all the white man: "Remove them let them march eastwards to our swamps where the para military forces are waiting" But sir you know we will NEVER make it to their, they are literally a stone throw away from our first camp, what do we need to do when they near us? I mean that is a matter of time. "Order all other guards to shoot, shoot everything which is alive and white!"

Para military forces have moved into the cities close to our camps: they only have one message for the hostile forces:

"This is not a game imperialists as you white men think, you are fighting on holy Polynesian soil now! We will defend every inch, your huge tanks and bombers will have no use in our villages. You will have to destroy every house because behind every door their stands a girl with a sniper, you will have to destroy every school because their we are waiting for you, you will have to destroy every hospital because a group of old men are waiting for you there with some rifles. Don't think our citizens will go and run like maniacs through our streets you will have to kill all the citizens as they will protest in the streets maybe even carrying guns with them."

"Do not think you can walk safely through the forest and reach our capital, you will have to desolate every forest because we are hiding behind the trees or we wait for you with our snipers in the trees. You will have to gas all the tunnels beneath the tropical rainforest because we are there under our holy soil. Do not rest when you see a open spot in the forest because you will fall into our boobytraps under the grass. You can maybe win this war but your armies will suffer many casualties".


Please give me time to post! If not why don't you throw a laser bomb of some kind and kill all my people suddenly. :evil:
CoreWorlds
22-10-2003, 16:33
OOC: I apologize. Impatience is a weakness of mine.

IC: The Iowa-class battleship Reign of Fire and its escorts has arrived in the area and is now helping our allies with the blockade. Its 16 inch guns and cruise missiles are no match for anything else the puny Cho-ki navy can throw at us. Plus, the stealthy Arsenal ship Ghoststalker is in the area, ready to fire off Tomahawk missiles at the push of a button.
Espario
22-10-2003, 16:43
Not a problem, I was very willing to be active but I couldn't because of my server yesterday. Apologises from my side to.
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 17:07
OOC: Espario, could you give us some idea of how fast the prisoners in the camps are being executed?
Espario
22-10-2003, 17:09
FYI: This is written by the great leader of the armed forces of Espario.

For one day I am sitting here in the Esperi censored . For al the enemies who are already advancing to our censored you need to understand our history: 500 years ago Espario was a backward community-minded country with only a few million people. Around 490 years ago the first colonists arrived, first they were quite censored for our population and we had little to complain. But afther 10 years they brought their fascist ideas into practice by enslaving all of our Polynesian people. In the years following the fascists spread their culture by building massive forts. But also schools and hospitals which we greatly censored from. Yet they were all in English and gradually our language was destroyed. The economy kept on growing and growing and we were becoming a try industrial state, thanks to slaves: we were that slaves [which we still are today]! We have experienced hundreds of years of torture, rape, murder, injustice virtually any crime which can be done to people: but we were no people according to the white colonists. A few years ago slavery was abolished, white and non-white lived censored together. But the Polynesian hate against the white was growing, particularly when the church didn’t allow Polynesians to sit at the front seat in the church. During the first elections the Christian Democrats won and they secretly wanted to legalize slavery and an apartheid system. The Polynesian people stood up and killed all the members of the racist party and from that day the Polynesian Empire was born. censored today many censored man and woman are censored from the apartheid which is still in place today not against us but against our censored brothers.
Leader of the Esperi Armed Forces detained in censored , censored and censored by the guards he commanded two days ago.
Espario
22-10-2003, 17:13
(Officially) 1 camp is no longer under control of our guards 3 major ones have been evacuated and at the other camps. People who can afford it are swiftly executed: in every camp 5000 a day. But if the enemy nears guards have been ordered to burn down the camp without evacuating any.
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 17:14
"HIMS Constantine reports she's in position, my Lord Admiral." reports a lieutenant on HIMS Imperator Andreus' flag bridge. Lord Phocas nods.

"That's our entire task force then. What of the Excalbians?" asks Phocas.

"Vice Admiral Kunle reports that the INV Glorious's task force will be deployed within an hour. The blockade will be complete." replies the lieutenant.

"Any sign of Esperi ships yet from the Wraiths in our forward line? Or from our reconnaissance flights?" asks Phocas as another F/A-18 Super Hornet launches, its engines screaming off the deck.

"No sign yet sir, but Imperial High Command warns us to stay on alert." replies the lieutenant.

"Send word to Admiral Kunle - at nightfall, if there has been no Esperi naval resistance, the assault will commence. Full tactical bombing of their beach defences. The Excalbian marines will land and establish a beachhead. Then the Imperial Cataphracti Legion will land along with the First Provincial Legion." Phocas continues. "The Cataphracti Legion's M1A2 and M551A2 tanks will punch a hole in the secondary Esperi defences, forcing a saliant in their lines which will be consolidated by the infantry. Once our lines are established and secure, the engineers will land and start immediate construction of an airbase to allow our allies to rebase their fighters."

"Yes, my Lord Admiral!" says the lieutenant. He returns to his console and starts signalling.
CoreWorlds
22-10-2003, 17:18
The Jedi Master Gareth Rydo felt a disturbance in the Force, coming from the nearest death camp. He ordered a dragon to check it out and was horrified to hear that people are being murdered with impunity. He ordered the dragon to flame the murderers and tell the white people to flee towards him. 100 troops were sent towards the death camp, along with several choppers to take out enemy infantry. The Jedi steered the troops away from enemy ambushes (Jedi are so useful!) and deflected wayward bullets with his lightsaber.

OOC: Your move. Yes, Jedi and dragons are part of my military (though Jedi are more peacekeepers than soldiers), and i'm using them to liberate the poor whites. The troops have to find them, but where are the white communities in the cities anyway?
imported_Sozy
22-10-2003, 17:21
This really becomes a mess for the Esperi population, I MIGHT interfere later to sent experts to help the population.
imported_Sozy
22-10-2003, 17:25
OOC: Your move. Yes, Jedi and dragons are part of my military (though Jedi are more peacekeepers than soldiers), and i'm using them to liberate the poor whites. The troops have to find them, but where are the white communities in the cities anyway?

They were forced to flee into the Tropical Rainforest: a place not very hospitable to humans.., I believe...

Have you any plans what to do with the Espario's population AFTHER the war? I believe it is very important for Espario's population to know.
CoreWorlds
22-10-2003, 17:27
OOC: Great. even more atrocities commited by the evil government.

Plans? What plans? :P
We'll think of something.
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 17:29
Pantocratorian aircraft have started dropping propaganda leaflets over as much of Espario as they dare reach, avoiding where ever possible anti-aircraft emplacements (which are being scouted out by Pantocratorian reconnaissance flights from HIMS Imperator Andreus at this very moment).

The leaflets are printed in several languages, so that all Esperi should be able to read them (if they can in fact read):

Esperi people! An alliance of nations has formed to liberate you from the fascist rule of your oppressive Emperor! As you read this, its troops are dying to free your fellow countrymen from the death camps in which they're being held as political prisoners.

The tyrant who calls himself your Emperor has imprisoned the leader of the Esperi Armed Forces. The tyrant's army is like a chicken without a head. You no longer need to fear the oppression of the Emperor's soldiers, for they now lack a true commander.

Your Emperor calls us imperialists, fascists, or racists but what is he himself? Is not the greatest imperialist the one who overturns the rightful government you elected and crowns himself your ruler? Is not the greatest fascist the one who outlaws opposition parties, and throws your fellow country men into death camps? Is not the greatest racist the one who does the same things and worse as your former colonial oppressors did to you, to your fellow citizens, because they happen to be white? Your Emperor is the fascist imperialist racist!

When you see a soldier from the liberating alliance, show them that you're unarmed, and you've nothing to fear from them, despite the lies of your government. Help them, welcome them, for they will liberate you from the tyranny of your so-called Emperor, free your beloved leaders, who are the true patriots, free your fellow countrymen, rebuild your imploded economy, and let you pick your own government!
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 17:30
OOC: Your move. Yes, Jedi and dragons are part of my military (though Jedi are more peacekeepers than soldiers), and i'm using them to liberate the poor whites. The troops have to find them, but where are the white communities in the cities anyway?

They were forced to flee into the Tropical Rainforest: a place not very hospitable to humans.., I believe...

Have you any plans what to do with the Espario's population AFTHER the war? I believe it is very important for Espario's population to know.

OOC: Pantocratoria outlines what it sees in Espario's future in the propaganda leaflets it has started to drop over the countryside.
Espario
22-10-2003, 18:02
Beacheads have been demobilized and troops have moved into Esperi’s dangerous hilly rainforest: this is to avoid casualties at the beaches. Boobytraps are placed at all buildings on the beach in the hope to make a near future landing chaotic.

The Emperor has said that anyone carrying a pamflet must burn it immediately. With your fires our gods will be alarmed and you will soon experience the power of the gods who are at our side.

FYI: We do not use gods in battle but our gods encourage our people.
Espario
22-10-2003, 18:05
free your beloved leaders, who are the true patriots, free your fellow countrymen, rebuild your imploded economy, and let you pick your own government! [/i]

The ones in our camps are all white criminals and if you call them leaders than this perfectly shows you ambition is to create a white-power state where the Polynesian majority is oppressed. Just like in the time of murder and slavery: the time the whites ruled us!
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 18:06
Beacheads have been demobilized and troops have moved into Esperi’s dangerous hilly rainforest: this is to avoid casualties at the beaches. Boobytraps are placed at all buildings on the beach in the hope to make a near future landing chaotic.

The Emperor has said that anyone carrying a pamflet must burn it immediately. With your fires our gods will be alarmed and you will soon experience the power of the gods who are at our side.

FYI: We do not use gods in battle but our gods encourage our people.

OOC: I know the first time I RPed in one of your threads it was in response to you arresting your country's Catholic priests en masse. Are these gods of which the Emperor speaks actually worshipped by the common every day Esperi, or are they like the official "national religion" even though nobody actually worships them (with the government embracing the ancient Polynesian gods for propaganda value only)? ie What is the religion of the average Esperi?
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 18:08
free your beloved leaders, who are the true patriots, free your fellow countrymen, rebuild your imploded economy, and let you pick your own government! [/i]

The ones in our camps are all white criminals and if you call them leaders than this perfectly shows you ambition is to create a white-power state where the Polynesian majority is oppressed. Just like in the time of murder and slavery: the time the whites ruled us!

We call the European Esperi in your death camps the "fellow countrymen" of the Polynesian Esperi. We call men like your now arrested Leader of the Esperi Armed Forces (presumably a Polynesian) your people's "beloved leaders" who have been imprisoned by your Emperor. We are not here to reinstate a colonial government - we are here to set the Esperi people free, be they ethnic Polynesian, or ethnic European.
Espario
22-10-2003, 18:34
The Emperor of the Esperi Armed Forces, is a well respected and free man. Like all Polynesian people in my beloved country.

The people are believing in (ancient) Polynesian gods, the emperor is appointed by the gods: he represents the Polynesian gods.
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 18:37
The Emperor of the Esperi Armed Forces, is a well respected and free man. Like all Polynesian people in my beloved country.

The people are believing in (ancient) Polynesian gods, the emperor is appointed by the gods: he represents the Polynesian gods.

OOC: I was speaking of this leader:

Leader of the Esperi Armed Forces detained in censored , censored and censored by the guards he commanded two days ago.
Espario
22-10-2003, 18:49
That writing was foolish propaganda made by cowards who are at the same line, as you racists are!
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 19:07
That writing was foolish propaganda made by cowards who are at the same line, as you racists are!

OOC: I was talking OOC... sometimes it can be hard for me to tell when you're OOC and when you're IC! :oops:
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 19:08
OOC: So, what, if any, naval defences does my reconnaissance pick-up? You've let me know that I don't spot any troops on the beach (obviously I can't see the bobytraps their from the air!), but I need to know if the allies control the seas.
Espario
22-10-2003, 19:12
That writing was foolish propaganda made by cowards who are at the same line, as you racists are!

OOC: I was talking OOC... sometimes it can be hard for me to tell when you're OOC and when you're IC! :oops:

OOC: Sorry, that insult was ment towards the fascist,hypocritical, imperialist, colonist, racist, paranoid and above all white Dictator you are playing. I didn't mean to say you were racist, sorry again.
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 19:14
That writing was foolish propaganda made by cowards who are at the same line, as you racists are!

OOC: I was talking OOC... sometimes it can be hard for me to tell when you're OOC and when you're IC! :oops:

OOC: Sorry, that insult was ment towards the fascist,hypocritical, imperialist, colonist, racist, paranoid and above all white Dictator you are playing. I didn't mean to say you were racist, sorry again.

OOC: Yes, I know, I was just letting you know that I've been getting confused myself about some of the other things, and you are probably getting confused too because you replied IC to an OOC comment. I'm going to try clearly mark it from now on.
Espario
22-10-2003, 19:14
OOC: So, what, if any, naval defences does my reconnaissance pick-up? You've let me know that I don't spot any troops on the beach (obviously I can't see the bobytraps their from the air!), but I need to know if the allies control the seas.

IC: My tiny patrol boats have moved into the river delta of my country and now are camouflaged somewhere at the river banks...

OOC: So yes you control the seas, I am sorry this is only the third RP thread I am taking part in so I am quite new to this.
Bryn Shander
22-10-2003, 19:28
OOC: It would be helpful if you RP the para-militaries ambushing my forces. I don't want to post that I'm engaging them to only have you post that they weren't there.
Shildonia
22-10-2003, 19:29
*Official Response to the "Concientious Objector" of Shildonia.*

We decided that waiting to be slaughtered like animals is worse than dying like human beings. I do not recall others ignoring the Nazi camps in the hopes sanctions would cause them to close. At least they now will have a fighting chance, as opposed to the suffering.

There are fates worse than death.

Tercero Xavier Delryn
3rd in Command of Crownguard
Military and Foreign Affairs

-End Transmission-

Communiqé from the Shildonian Office for Foreign Affairs
RE: Esparion conflict

Until you mounted your hamfisted rescue attempt the prisoners were not being slaughtered, they were being kept in camps (admittedly in somewhat sub-standard accomodation) but they were alive, and they would have still been alive by the time the sanctions took effect, just as was the case in South Africa, where international condemnation and sanctions led to the fall of apartheid.
Our objections appear to have been well based. Now countless thousands of prisoners are being executed, and vast tracts of land rendered uninhabitable due to your practise of throwing dangerous chemicals around like toys, all because of a lack of patience.
Despite all this, we acknowledge that you took this action in the best intentions, and so are prepared to offer you and the rest of the liberating forces the use of Shildonian airspace for the duration of hostilities, so long as flightplans are transmitted Shildonian Air Traffic Control at least 12 hours in advance.
Pantocratoria
22-10-2003, 19:40
"INV Glorious reports her task force is in position, my Lord Admiral!" says the lieutenant.

"Very good." says Lord Phocas. "Tell the frigates to start shelling enemy positions in land. Launch missiles at all targets of opportunity, even those miserable canoes they call ships up in those rivers. If you can't get an exact lock on those little craft, just target the coordinates given to us by reconnaissance."

"My Lord Admiral, might that be a little heavy handed?" asks a captain. "Targetting the vague reconnaissance coordinates for a blanket bombardment is too imprecise. There might be civili..."

"Captain, if there are civilians there, it is because the coward Esperi are holding their at gunpoint, to try dissuade us from firing. Collateral damage will be kept to a minimum but we can't afford to pussy foot about while 5000 men a day die in death camps!" barks Phocas.

"Yes my Lord Admiral!" says the captain. He reaches for his telephone. "AEGIS missile flotilla, commence bombardment pattern beta three seven niner, central coordinates matching previously transmitted coordinates. Authorisation Phocas Constantine Drakos Andreus."

"Lieutenant, signal the Excalbian marines. Tell them to prepare for landing. Little to none resistance expected - reconnaissance shows the beach is empty. They are to advance until they come under fire, and are to establish a perimeter at that point. A beachhead will be established for the Imperial Cataphracti Legion's blitzkrieg assault." says Phocas, confidently.

"My Lord Admiral, General Duprix of the Imperial Cataphracti Legion advises against the deployment of his tanks in a blitzkrieg attack to create a saliant. He says its all jungle after the beaches, my Lord. He advises that the infantry should create the saliant and the armour be unloaded once roads have been captured." says the comms lieutenant.

"Hmmm... then send word to the commander of the First Provincials that they are to establish a secure saliant by midday tomorrow. Tell them that I will accept no excuses. They must secure the saliant so that the engineers can construct an airfield to better support our operations. Tell them that as much air support and artillery fire as they require will be at their disposal." says Phocas.

"Yes, my Lord Admiral." replies the lieutenant.

"When we receive confirmation from the Excalbians, the ground assault will commence. In the meantime, bombing runs are to commence against that secondary line in the jungle. If the F/A-18s can't pick out targets themselves, they are authorised to use their discretion, but under no circumstances are any bombs to be returned to this ship, you understand? I want them dropped all over that damned jungle. And if they can't see a target, they should take their best guess." Phocas commands.

"Yes, my Lord Admiral." replies the captain, who gets on the phone to the Excalbian marines immediately.
Espario
22-10-2003, 19:51
The Esperi Armed Forces have moved into the villages and towns, while all Para-military forces are moving deeper into the forest. "They either have to bulldoze the forest or they have to take the risc and suffer great casualties in the forest where only the paramilitary troops know the correct paths" Says chief of one of the para military tribes.

Th death of 23 Fishermen have been reported as the enemies forces took their boats under fire. "Everyone knows Polynesian fishingboats are green camouflaged" Says local fisherman "But still the white enemy took us under fire, I lost my boat and my son if I need to survive I will probably join ranks with the local tribe which is forming yet another para military force which is planning to regroup into the forests"
Bryn Shander
22-10-2003, 20:20
OOC: Can you provide us with a map indicating rivers, mountains, forests, prison camps, and towns?
Espario
22-10-2003, 20:25
I have one on my computer but I can't figure out how I can post it
Bryn Shander
22-10-2003, 20:34
OOC: Upload it onto some webspace and post a link.
CoreWorlds
22-10-2003, 20:51
"Admiral, our Pantocratorian allies have begin bombardments on enemy emplacements!" An ensign reported, after hearing the salvos.
Admiral Paul Swenson acknowledged the report. "Well, then. Since we're here, we wouldn't want to miss out on the party. Commence gun bombardments on ack-ack (antiaircraft) and SAM positions and missile strikes on enemy emplacements farther inland!"

The Reign of Fire spoke! Her 16" guns could be heard for miles, and her missiles streaked into the sky like deadly fireworks. The smaller destroyers and frigates also fired their missiles, but they were mere whispers compared to the salvos.

OOC:post losses. and don't forget suspected enemy emplacements on your map, if necessary.
Espario
22-10-2003, 21:46
OOC: Upload it onto some webspace and post a link.

OOC: Could you give me a link where I can do that?

IC: Thousands of farmers looked above as missiles turned the sky black, children and woman were running out of their homes to afraid that their home would be hit. And suddenly somewhere at the horizon the missiles landed giant blows could be heard from miles away. Many brave soldiers who protected these SAM sites with their lives died because of these sneak attacks the official body count comes to 13 Soldiers and 80 civilians although numbers between 20-80 soldiers and 120 civilians are more likely. "To all those cowards who fired these missiles" Says a wounded soldier "We were protecting towns for Sungods sake! Why do you bomb our children? IS it for these few old SAM sites? We weren't even supplied with AA-missiles for 3 days we could do no harm" "I hate the enemy may I see one I will kill him with my bare hands!"
Espario
22-10-2003, 21:46
OOC: Upload it onto some webspace and post a link.

OOC: Could you give me a link where I can do that?

IC: Thousands of farmers looked above as missiles turned the sky black, children and woman were running out of their homes to afraid that their home would be hit. And suddenly somewhere at the horizon the missiles landed giant blows could be heard from miles away. Many brave soldiers who protected these SAM sites with their lives died because of these sneak attacks the official body count comes to 13 Soldiers and 80 civilians although numbers between 20-80 soldiers and 120 civilians are more likely. "To all those cowards who fired these missiles" Says a wounded soldier "We were protecting towns for Sungods sake! Why do you bomb our children? IS it for these few old SAM sites? We weren't even supplied with AA-missiles for 3 days we could do no harm" "I hate the enemy may I see one I will kill him with my bare hands!"
Excalbia
22-10-2003, 21:50
Aboard INV Glorious

A young lieutenant snapped a crisp salute. “Admiral Kunle, sir?”

Kunle sat his blue mug of orange-scented tea on the edge of the flag bridge’s map table. “Yes, Lieutenant?”

“Sir, CIC confirms that Landing’s Strike Group has fired on all identified defensive targets on the shore and inland. Only twelve hundred missiles expended. They report no additional targets yet identified. Citadel’s Strike Group reports no further sea-going hostile contacts. No aerial hostiles yet identified.”

“Good, good,” Kunle rumbled as he studied the plot displayed on the maps electronic surface. “Any word from Major General Tolliver?”

“Yes, sir. The General reports that the 2nd Marine Division has secured a beachhead. He is advancing two brigades of mobile infantry to secure roads towards the camps. Mechanized infantry is preparing to move out on short notice.”

“Send the General my compliments and advise him to secure the roads with his mechanized troops and continue advancing the mobile forces as scouts. His forces should locate a suitable airfield site and begin work to clear it. Pantocratorian forces should be landing shortly and will be the main assault force. Meanwhile, if the mobile forces encounter resistance, they should report the coordinates to Wraith Squadron…,” Sir Kunle looked at the table, “Alpha Alpha Two and withdraw. The Wraiths will engage any targets with a full missile volley. Notify the Squadron CO, Captain Park, to expect coordinates from Tolliver’s division.”

“Aye, aye, sir.” With another crisp salute the young officer turned and moved towards the comm station.

“Liberation” Beach – 2nd Marine Division Beachhead in Espario

MAJGEN Michael Tolliver kicked at the tires of the hummer. “Get this thing out of here!”

“Yessir,” a veteran sergeant steps up and starts directing troops to shoulder the broken vehicle out of the way. The sound of the grunting is joined by faint electric hum. A column of lightly armored, multi-wheeled vehicles – looking like spidery dune buggies – roar across the beach. Each carriers five men, side missile launchers and top-mounted machine gun. They race across the beach and onto a dirt track leading into the jungle.

Tolliver turns to a young captain who has been following them. “Is Major Cozols fully briefed on his orders, Captain?

“Yessir, he will proceed along the road until he finds an appropriate location to hold and call for the 223rd Mechanized to move up and secure or until he encounters resistance, at which time he will radio the squids, sir!”

“Good. Any word on the Pantocratorians?”
CoreWorlds
22-10-2003, 22:54
The company finally reached the death camp where several hundred people were already killed. The soldiers mowed down the paramilitaries, and Master Rydo became a whirling dervish, slicing any enemy in his range. When finished, he felt a slight disturbance, and found a young man, about 18, but looking much younger due to malnourishment, moaning in pain. To his astonishment, Master Rydo realized that the boy was unconsiously using the Force to stay alive despite the pain of his wounds. If this boy survived, he would make a great Jedi someday. Master Rydo called upon the Force, and with the help of a medic, healed the boy as much as he could. He was no great shakes at psychic healing, but it would be enough.

"Rest easily, my young friend, for you are now safe." Master Rydo softly said.
The other soldiers checked the remaining survivors. About 1,000 others of various ages still survive and with varying injuries.
Using an encrypted walkie talkie, the captain called to all allies for medivac helicopters and reinforcements about 10 klicks northwest of the beachhead. Now they would protect the survivors with renewed vigor, as there were survivors who were still able to pick up and use the late paramilitaries' weapons.
Bryn Shander
22-10-2003, 23:15
OOC: *cough* (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=free+web+hosting&btnG=Google+Search)
22-10-2003, 23:17
I DECLARE WAR ON YOU.

I IGNORE YOU.

How can you ignore me?

I'm declaring war on you!
22-10-2003, 23:18
I DECLARE WAR ON YOU.

I IGNORE YOU.

How can you ignore me?

I'm declaring war on you!
23-10-2003, 02:08
The People's Republic of Cho-to-ki believes that following conditions need to be met before military assistance to Espario is ended --

1) No "regime change" be initiated in Espario by foreign powers.
a) assuming that regime change is initiated, free elections should take place no longer than 3 months after the initial regime change, and involve no foreign forces. If foreign "peacekeepers" are involved, an equal number of coaltion forces and Cho-to-ki (or allied forces) forces should be the general rule.

2) All whites placed in arbritray detention may be released except those guilty of crimes committed during the colonial period of Espario (as defined by international law), including --
a) colonial administrators
b) provincial governors who did not actively push for humane reform
c) cruel or exploitive landlords (as judged by the people)
d) military officers above the rank of captain
e) European businessmen who gained their wealth through the colonization of Espario

3) Those in the above list do not have their property returned, as it was wealth gained through the exploitation of Espario.

4 Any damage caused to Espario be re-paid by the invading coalition in full.

Troops are still being sent to Espario make sure regime change is not initiated (i.e. we will not defend any detention centers), although the number of troops has been decreased to 500,000 and transports are being escorted by three naval task forces (one-half modified against aircraft fire) and several submarines, also escorted by MiG-31 interceptors, through the weakest section of the blockade.

Revolutionary Leader Kim Jwa-Jin over Radio Cho-to-ki --

As we speak, the brave Cho-to-ki People's Liberation Army is making its way across the sea to Espario, a nation who is under attack by the imperialist. The imperialist wishes to restore an imperialist-dependent neo-colony, this time dressed in the humanitarian garb of equal rights for the white exploiter. How strange that they did not say anything when Espario was suffering under the brunt of colonial oppression much worse than that currently suffered by colonial whites!

We cannot allow this to happen! Many point to the faulty humyn rights records of Espario in its treatment of whites. While at times this treatment is excessive, post-revolutionary repression of the former exploiters is sometimes necessary to prevent a restoration of outright colonialism.

The imperialist has demanded that all expropriated property be *snort* restored to their former white colonial owners. How convenient! The result of this is obvious, even if the imperialist wishes to play dumb -- re-concentrating the wealth in the hands of the white elite will ensure that Anglo-colonialists will remain in control, even if the Polynesian people get to fly their own flag. The Polynesian people will still have to answer to colonial capital, if not the colonial government.

With crocodile tears, the imperialist has talked of the plight of those whites who are being expelled from their "homelands!" Ha! The white colonialist were not born in Espario, nor where they refugees of imperialism or global capital, nor legitimate immigrants. They forced their entrance into the country, and came only to live off of wealth exploited from the "inferior Polynesian." They did not go to Espario for a love of the Polynesian people; they went to Espario because they detested and looked down upon the Polynesian people.

If we wanted to engage in a discussion of families being torn asunder, we would begin with the colonization of Espario. Even the poorest of the white colonialists had his wages padded with wealth brutally extracted from the Polynesian people. Should they be allowed to keep the wealth they took illegaly?

Only colonial war criminals among in Espario remain in detention centers.

Why should Cho-to-ki fight among the Polynesian people? Espario is not very far from Cho-to-ki, and an imperialist victory there would give them a foot-hold in the region. From there, it is only a matter of time before "rogue states" are undergoing "regime change," with Cho-to-ki surely being accorded "rogue state" status.

A defeat for the masses in Espario is a defeat for the masses everywhere. We will defend Espario in case the imperialist attempts to install an illegitimate puppet government.

For the people, we will fight.
CoreWorlds
23-10-2003, 02:26
The People's Republic of Cho-to-ki believes that following conditions need to be met before military assistance to Espario is ended --

1) No "regime change" be initiated in Espario by foreign powers.
a) assuming that regime change is initiated, free elections should take place no longer than 3 months after the initial regime change, and involve no foreign forces. If foreign "peacekeepers" are involved, an equal number of coaltion forces and Cho-to-ki (or allied forces) forces should be the general rule.

2) All whites placed in arbritray detention may be released except those guilty of crimes committed during the colonial period of Espario (as defined by international law), including --
a) colonial administrators
b) provincial governors who did not actively push for humane reform
c) cruel or exploitive landlords (as judged by the people)
d) military officers above the rank of captain
e) European businessmen who gained their wealth through the colonization of Espario

3) Those in the above list do not have their property returned, as it was wealth gained through the exploitation of Espario.

4 Any damage caused to Espario be re-paid by the invading coalition in full.

Troops are still being sent to Espario make sure regime change is not initiated (i.e. we will not defend any detention centers), although the number of troops has been decreased to 500,000 and transports are being escorted by three naval task forces (one-half modified against aircraft fire) and several submarines, also escorted by MiG-31 interceptors, through the weakest section of the blockade.

From: The Republic of CoreWorlds
To: The People's Republic of Cho-to-Ki
We agree to your terms in full, as we have no intention of staying in the region once the war is over. Furthermore, $200 million has been apporpriated for humanitarian and rebuilding purposes. All we ask in return is your guarantee that you will not attack Coredian military units, including combat aircraft, for the duration of the conflict, as we are only attacking Esparion units and death camps. I will personally give the order for our troops to not attack Cho-to-kian units. We will do everything in our power to minimize civilian casualities, though we deeply and humbly regret the civilians already killed.
-President John Chris
CoreWorlds
23-10-2003, 02:35
FLASH ORDERS TO ALL UNITS
128 BIT ENCRYPTED 2334 COREDIAN TIME
YOU WILL NOT RPT NOT ATTACK CHO-TO-KI UNITS UNLESS ATTACKED YOURSELF. EVEN SO, YOU WILL NOT ENGAGE IN OFFENSIVE OPS AGAINST SAID UNITS UNLESS SO ORDERED BY NCA (National Command Authority aka the President). THAT IS TOP PRIORITY.
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 02:47
To: CoreWorld High Command

Cho-to-ki terms specifying no regime-change unacceptable to us although we would be ameniable to Cho-to-ki troops assisting in peace keeping operations in equal numbers to our own in the lead-up to free elections after the present regime is toppled.

Also unacceptable are the terms of condition 2 and 3 - the corrupt Esperi government has already defined the innocent people in its camps as criminals and to continue to allow it to keep anybody in camps whilst calling them criminals just provides them with a means to keep hostages against our action. If there are any criminals in camps, let Espario bring them to court, try them, and sentence them to regular prison sentences, not keep them in death camps! What's more, it is unacceptable that these people not have their possessions returned to them.

In regards to article 4 - Pantocratoria is willing to assist in the Esperi reconstruction, but will not pay the Esperis for the privilege of liberating them.

Please reconsider your acceptance of the Cho-to-ki proposal.

Imperial High Command, New Rome
East Islandia
23-10-2003, 03:02
EI will send peacekeeping forces and engineering units to rebuild Espario if necessary.
CoreWorlds
23-10-2003, 03:08
To the Pantocratorian High Command (128 bit encrypted):

The Esparion government HAS stated that there were neo-Nazi terrorists that attacked civilians, and there will be trials for those idiots, as soon as proper evidence can be assembled (if they're dead, no big loss and it saves money on a trial). All other white people will be released (and we already started). However, we did reconsider #3 (after reviewing the policies perpetrated by the corrupt Esparions) and decided that property will and must be returned to the minority as soon as the war is over. Also it is still imperative that the Esparion government falls and new elections be held as quickly as possible (we predict four to six months, rather than the three months that the Cho-to-ki predicted).
-President John Chris of CoreWorlds
P.S. Our units are still waiting for aid to evacuate 1,000 survivors of a death camp we found 10km from the beachhead.
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 03:45
The First Provincial Infantry Legion disembarked on the beachhead captured by the Excalbian marines. In all there were 12,000 of them on the beachhead. Among this 12,000 was a young soldier of the name of Private Spiro Drakos.

The First Provincials were gathered from the quiet countryside of Pantocratoria, from rural communities mostly. They were traditional Pantocratorians, far closer to their Greek roots than their fellow countrymen in Pantocratoria's cities. Most of them spoke very poor French, so their commanders spoke to them in Greek. As Spiro's colonel started speaking to Spiro and his fellow soldiers, Spiro nervously fiddled with his Rosary beads and thought of his wife and baby girl back home.

"Now listen up, men!" said the colonel. "We're about to move off this beach and establish a saliant. We're going to be fighting the Esperi in the jungles on their own ground. They'll be heavily camoflagued, so absolutely no risks are to be taken. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean the Esperis aren't there! Paramilitaries may be wearing civilian clothing. No risks are to be taken! If you come under fire from a region, call in for fire support, IMMEDIATELY! We've total dominance of the skies and seas - our bombers and our ships can devote their full attention to helping us push the Esperi back further into that hellish jungle. Let's see the Esperi ambush us when their jungle is a charred wasteland! NOW MOVE OUT!"

The First Provincials moved up the beach. Heavy artillery support was ripping up the jungle in front of them. Pantocratorian bombers screamed overhead, dropping bombs almost indiscriminately on possible enemy troop sightings. The First Provincials stopped in front of the burning jungle. No enemy fire yet.

"Deploy!" shouted the commanders, and the legion split down into small platoons all heading to establish the saliant in Esperi lines.

***

Some hours later, Spiro's platoon stops in a small clearing. The lieutenant looks ahead.

"There could be natives in the trees in ambush." he says to the sergeant next to him. "And see there? Those huts. Could be a paramilitary camp."

"Or a small native homestead, sir." suggests the sergeant. "Do paramilitaries hang their freshly-washed clothes out to dry on clotheslines?"

"That's exactly what they want you to think, sergeant. Those paramilitaries are cunning." says the lieutenant. He grabs his radio. "This is delta niner platoon requesting air support for grid zero, alpha, fifteen, fifty metre coverage."

"Keep your heads down men!" he barks. The platoon takes cover. Spiro grips his Rosary beads again nervously.

"Hey, Drakos, if one of those bombs falls the wrong way and lands on your head, ain't no number of decades going to save you from it!" teases the sergeant.

"I know sarge, I'm just nervous, that's all..." Spiro explains. He opens his mouth to go on but is interrupted by the ground shaking as the area in front of the platoon is carpet bombed. Nothing is left standing, least of all the small group of huts.

***

"My lord Admiral, General Tzimite reports that the First Provincials have reached their objectives and are now fortifying. They've come under fire in parts and have suffered some light casualties, but their cautious approach has paid off." reports the comms lieutenant. "I'm getting reports from the ground of high collateral damage though, my lord."

"Unavoidable, lieutenant. When the enemy is too cowardly to show himself we've no choice but to bomb that jungle indiscriminately. Has HIMS Constantine reached its new position?" snaps Phocas.

"Yes my lord Admiral. All ships are in position. Vice Admiral Kunle reports that his Wraiths have also deployed to our rear. They will provide the first point of contact with the Cho-to-ki navy if they attempt to run our blockade." says the lieutenant.

"Very well." says Phocas, turning to the captain who is his assistant. "Captain, send our orders - the moment the Cho-to-ki convoy is detected, the Wraiths will move as a stealth flotilla and assault their capital ships, with air support from INV Glorious. Their capital ships won't know what hit them, and will be too busy looking to their own defence to worry much about their transports. In the meantime, our AEGIS cruisers will start sinking their troop transports with long-range missiles. They're moving in half a million men - a logistics nightmare. Even if we only sink half their transports, their losses will be horrendous."

"Yes my Lord Admiral!" says the captain as he gets on the phone.

"Tell the rest of the troops to start landing and establish a base in the saliant. And get me some hard numbers on casualities." says Phocas.

"Yes my Lord Admiral." says the lieutenant on the comms. A red light on his panel starts flashing. "Priority message from Imperial High Command coming in my lord!"
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 03:54
MAXIMUM ENCRYPTION - PRIORITY TRANSMISSION TO ALL ALLIED FORCES

10 hours ago, Imperial High Command received the following message from a high-ranking member of the Esperi resistance, whom we believe was captured and killed shortly after sending it:

Whiteman...

If you read this the secret police will probably have executed me already but I think this is certainly worth dying for: for the sake of the Polynesian Empire who will live for thousands of years afther it has been invaded! Although I do not believe the Empire will last much longer with our utterly racist Emperor. Therefore I am telling you most essential information which will prevent this war ending up in a devastating urban fight between soldiers, paramilitaries, coalition forces and not to forget the beautiful Polynesian citizens. Please read carefully: Our elite forces which I trained personally are top fighters and will certainly be hard to defeat if you are reaching the capital. But these warriors are also one of the most religious people in whole Espario. They believe every day the sungod arrives (read every day the sun comes up) it means another ten years the emperor and the Polynesian empire will live. But they also believe that the sun is a living being: when the sun dies the Sky will turn red and tyranny is upon those who support the emperor: this is a sentence from one of our ancient religious books. If you are able to turn the sky red by using a certain type of fuel for your airplane the guards believe the end has come and they will sacrifice (kill) the emperor to keep the sungod alive. When he dies the warriors chief, which am I will become president. but because I am dead there will be no president and the commando troops plus the soldiers will surely surrender in matter of hours. But be aware: our capital is full of para-military forces who will shoot at your planes when they come over the city: para-military forces are drugsdealers no ceremonial warriors they do not believe in the sungod and they only believe in the power of the emperor: they will continue fighting but when the corrupt generals have surrendered it will be a matter of time before the para-military forces run out of weapons and support of the locals. PLease think about saving my country without murdering more and more of my fellow Polynesian and white brothers.
Yours truly, leader of the Esperi Armed Forces.

First Admiral Lord Phocas has been ordered to devise a mission to act on the suggestions of this leader. With any luck, we will be able to get the Esperi people to replace their own government themselves and come to the negotiating table. Our troops will still advance towards the death camps.

To stop this secret mission being compromised, we ask that our allies do not act on this information until Lord Phocas has implemented his mission plan.

Imperial High Command, New Rome
CoreWorlds
23-10-2003, 04:42
Quick message to Allies: *Choppers and reinforcements are evacuating survivors of the death camp designated #1, but the going is slow.* end message.

Master Rydo took personal care of Tomas Rangi as they were heloed from the area to base. Through the Force, Gareth realized that the boy would become a great Jedi Knight and a shining hope to the Esparion people. They will return to CoreWorlds and begin the training of the next Knight of the Refugee Order...

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Aboard the Reign of Fire,

"Admiral, a heavily encrypted message has arrived from our allies." the comms officer reported.
"Hmm. If it's heavily encrypted, then it must be really juicy." Admiral Swenson mused. After 15 minutes of deencryption, the admiral dropped his cigar. "Hot damn! Now this is juicier than steak on a grill!"

Message decrypted from allies:

A telegram from Espario wrote:
Whiteman...

If you read this the secret police will probably have executed me already but I think this is certainly worth dying for: for the sake of the Polynesian Empire who will live for thousands of years afther it has been invaded! Although I do not believe the Empire will last much longer with our utterly racist Emperor. Therefore I am telling you most essential information which will prevent this war ending up in a devastating urban fight between soldiers, paramilitaries, coalition forces and not to forget the beautiful Polynesian citizens. Please read carefully: Our elite forces which I trained personally are top fighters and will certainly be hard to defeat if you are reaching the capital. But these warriors are also one of the most religious people in whole Espario. They believe every day the sungod arrives (read every day the sun comes up) it means another ten years the emperor and the Polynesian empire will live. But they also believe that the sun is a living being: when the sun dies the Sky will turn red and tyranny is upon those who support the emperor: this is a sentence from one of our ancient religious books. If you are able to turn the sky red by using a certain type of fuel for your airplane the guards believe the end has come and they will sacrifice (kill) the emperor to keep the sungod alive. When he dies the warriors chief, which am I will become president. but because I am dead there will be no president and the commando troops plus the soldiers will surely surrender in matter of hours. But be aware: our capital is full of para-military forces who will shoot at your planes when they come over the city: para-military forces are drugsdealers no ceremonial warriors they do not believe in the sungod and they only believe in the power of the emperor: they will continue fighting but when the corrupt generals have surrendered it will be a matter of time before the para-military forces run out of weapons and support of the locals. PLease think about saving my country without murdering more and more of my fellow Polynesian and white brothers.
Yours truly, leader of the Esperi Armed Forces.

Quote from Pantorcratorian ally:

First Admiral Lord Phocas has been ordered to devise a mission to act on the suggestions of this leader. With any luck, we will be able to get the Esperi people to replace their own government themselves and come to the negotiating table. Our troops will still advance towards the death camps.

To stop this secret mission being compromised, we ask that our allies do not act on this information until Lord Phocas has implemented his mission plan.


"Well, lets pretend to stay blind to this info and continue evacuating the survivors." Admiral Swenson said.

To: Admiral Phocas
From: Admiral Swenson
We will not help march on the capital until the sky is red and the word is given. Orders will be given to that effect.
P.S. How are you going to make the sky red?
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 05:38
To: Admiral Swenson
From: First Admiral Lord Phocas on board HIMS Imperator Andreus

We are planning to ignite a specially prepared chemical spray dropped from a group of C-130s. This would create a red gas cloud over the city. The effect of the light passing through this cloud would give the illusion of a red sun. F/A-18s will first making bombing attacks on all visible anti-aircraft and radar stations of course, but we still expect to lose aircraft on this mission - the C-130 isn't exactly an agile aircraft. Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Bryn Shander
23-10-2003, 06:28
50km inland from the coast, a team of three Zaku II move through the jungle, scaning with their mono-eyes. As they move further inland, the leading Zaku spots a 500x200m fence through the trees. Beyond the fence tewnty men are lined up against a building wall, and are subsequently shot. Scanning the camp, the pilots notice a small collection of vehicles including pickup trucks converted into gun platforms, a mobile SAM battery, and a small collection of outdated tanks. Every fifty meters, a wooden watch tower rises above the fence, with spotlights and machine guns set up on tripods inside the tower.

The lead Zaku gives the signal as another group is lined up on the wall. Before the executioners can even aim, the three mobile suits open fire on the base. After the first thirty seconds of firing, three trucks, the SAM, and a tank are in flaming pieces all over the camp. Two towers and the guard's barracks are in similar shape.

***Meanwhile***
The Principality of Bryn Shander formally rejects the Cho-to-ki demands. The Espario regime will be removed from power. Furthermore, any Cho-to-ki forces sent to Espario will be destroyed on site, and will result in a declaration of war on The People's Republic of Cho-to-ki.
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 06:41
After some F/A-18 bombing raids on the Esperi capital to try to take out the city's anti-air defences (these bombing raids are considerably more precise than the attacks being made to support the First Provincial's landing), a group of 12 C-130s fly over the Esperi capital, releasing a transparent chemical high above the city. One of the huge planes goes down in flames as a missile launcher from a paramilitary hidden on a rooftop somewhere flings a missile into the massive aircraft's cockpit, killing the pilots instantly. The remaining C-130s finish releasing the chemical.

"Peacock Flight Nine to Nest, eggs have been laid, incubation in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2... 1" says the captain of the lead C-130 into his radio.

The chemical in the air suddenly ignites, turning into a thick cloud of red gas.

"Roger Peacock Flight Nine. Peacock Flight Seven has visual confirmation. Return to Nest." comes the order back on the radio from the newly established airbase on the Esperi beaches.

As the sunlight penetrates the thick red cloud, the sun itself appears to be red. The flight captain looks down with a smirk.

"You reckon those natives are as superstitious as High Command says?" he says over his intercom to his co-pilot.

"I dunno, Cap." replies the co-pilot. "Them Polynesians aren't too bright."

The captain snorts.

"Hey, easy on the racial slurs Frederic, we're liberating these people, remember?" pipes in the navigator in an angry tone over the intercom.
Excalbia
23-10-2003, 07:45
(OOC: Catching up…)

Aboard INV Glorious

VADM Sir Derek Kunle read the Cho-to-ki message and handed it back to his yeoman. “And the response from the Citadel, Terrence?”

“Here, sir,” the yeoman handed his admiral another sheet.

A Statement from the Office of the Imperial Chancellor

Her Excellency, Lady Christina Freedman, Imperial Chancellor has released the following message in the name of His Imperial Majesty, David IV:

The Holy Empire of Excalbia appreciates the People's Republic of Cho-to-ki’s desire to avoid conflict and protect innocent civilians in Espario. The Holy Empire, however, finds its latest statement insufficient. While we accept point one in their statement – namely that free elections be held within 3 months and that peacekeepers from other countries in the region, such as Cho-to-ki, participate in equal numbers with allied forces – we believe that all property must be returned or compensation paid. If the new democratically elected of Esaprio then legally orders the confiscation of property with just compensation according to duly enacted laws, then that will be its own business. Similarly, we will aid in the reconstruction of Espario, but we believe that the Espari themselves must also participate in this effort as best they can.

Finally, and regretfully, we find the Revolutionary Leader of Cho-to-ki’s statement completely at odds with the peace plan offered by his government. Therefore, we will not allow any Cho-to-ki troops to land in Espario until the conflict is concluded and their involvement as peacekeepers can be properly negotiated. Our units will move to sink any Cho-to-ki vessels attempting to land troops in Espario. To the PRC, we remind them that our ships are stealthed, fast and capable of delivering several thousand anti-ship and anti-air missiles at one time. If we engage your ships, we firmly believe that all of them will be lost. In the name of peace, we urge you to turn back and hold your position until the entry of forces as legitimate peacekeepers can be negotiated.

Kunle handed the statement back to the yeoman. “Please broadcast this, in the clear, to both allied and Cho-to-ki forces. Then signal Lord Admiral Phocas that we are prepared to engage – and sink – the Cho-to-ki flotilla. On his orders, when given.” Sir Kunle takes a sip of tea, then hands his cup to the yeoman as well. “And the report from Generals Tzimite and Tolliver?”

The yeoman looks over his shoulder and red-haired female lieutenant commander steps up. She salutes crisply. “Sir, General Tolliver reports that his forces have secured several roads – little more than dirt tracks – and that General Tzimite’s Pantocratorians have reached their objectives and are fortifying. Our mobile forces are continuing to scout around and report encountering stiff, but sporadic resistance. We’ve lost six LAEVs, but the new Personnel Armor has been effective – we’ve only lost six men, with 16 injured. Without that armor…”

“Lieutenant Commander,” a rating interrupts. “CIC on the horn.”

LCDR Daniella Abolina steps away and picks up a phone. She returns moments later. “Admiral Kunle, sir, CIC reports that patrols have picked up the first of the Cho-to-ki ships.”

Kunle sighs. Here we go.

***

Somewhere in the Espari jungle...

CAPT Niles Yorgath sat in his LAEV scout vehicle reading the text scrolling across his visor. He tapped a few keys on the pocket pc-size device strapped to his forearm.

>1203rd Infantry under heavy fire.
>1045th and 1182nd Mobile close on position to support.
>LT Ayers reports heavy civilian presence.
>Microwave cannons only rpt microwave cannons only.
>Yorgath

The marine captain turned to his driver. “Let’s go, Corporal.” Then he turned to glance over his shoulder at the gun position. “Gunny, rig up the microwave.”

“Yessir.”

***

Excalbian marines were hunkered down behind any available cover at the edge of the jungle. Automatic weapons fire rang out from the trees. Nearby, along a dirt track just in front of the marine position, stood a small village. Sporadic firing also came from the village. Several marines, despite having pieces of frothed alloy armor on the torsos, had been hit and were dead or wounded. A faint electric whine heralded the arrival of the first LAEV – spidery dune buggy-like vehicles. In the gun emplacements of a few of the LAEV’s was a flat radar emitter-like device rather than a machine gun.

“Engage!” A voice cried from one of the vehicles.

There was no visible beam. Only a slightly louder electric hum. However, inside the jungle and the village, people begin to feel a burning sensation under their skin. Within seconds it becomes agonizing and people begin to drop to the ground in agony and begin to pass out. It looks horrible and terrifying, even to the marines nearby. But, at least they know no permanent harm is being done. When the beam is turned off, the enemy (including any civilians they’ve been hiding behind) will be out cold without even a burn mark. At least that’s what the Ministry of Defense said.

CAPT Yorgath watched the weapon with satisfaction. Non-lethal and effective. He only wished there were more than two per company.
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 08:08
"My Lord Admiral, the construction of airbase Andreus et David on the Esperi beach is now complete. The remaining Provincial Legions are deployed, and the Imperial Cataphracti Legion is unloading. The First Provincial Legion reports that it is firmly entrenched in the jungle." says the comms lieutenant on board HIMS Imperator Andreus' bridge.

"Very good." replies Phocas. "Tell General Tzimite that he will be heading to the outskirts of the Esperi capital as soon as better road are captured. Order the Second Provincial Legion to get those roads for our tanks! Give me those casualty reports, Captain."

The captain hands the casualty report to Lord Phocas.

"6 Excalbian marines dead, 16 injured." observes Phocas. "96 Pantocratorian injured. 38 dead, almost all of them in boobie traps on the beach. We're not providing them with enough supporting fire! I don't want our men taking any losses at all! If there's even two bricks standing on top of one another in the area of engagement, I want them blasted to pieces, understand me?"

"Yes my Lord Admiral!" replied the captain.

"Peacock Flight 9 reports it successfully deployed the gas cloud, my Lord Admiral!" says the lieutenant.

"Outstanding! Now, we wait and see!" says Phocas, rubbing his hands together.
Excalbia
23-10-2003, 10:36
LCDR Abolina snapped a salute. "Two reports in from CIC, sir."

VADM Sir Derek Kunle turned and smiled at staff officer. "Good," he said in his low, rumbling voice, "proceed, Commander."

"General Tolliver reports that the 2nd Marine Division has secured the last of its objectives. Additional Mechanized forces are being moved up to support the Pantocratorian Second Provincial Legion in securing roads towards the capital. Mobile units are continuing to advance as scouts and the Pantocratorian Imperial Cataphracti Legion is almost ready to begin its advance."

"Excellent."

"HIMS Imperator Andreus reports that their planes have completed their mission and released the red cloud."

Kunle seemed to gaze at something in the distance for a moment. "I hope that plan works. It would save a lot of lives, but..."

"Sir?"

"Nothing. Just. Well I hope it works."

"Anything on the Cho-to-ki flotilla?"

"No sir. CIC reports that they have not attempted to enter the quarantine zone."

"Good," Kunle sighs, "maybe they are going to listen to reason. Thank you, Commander."
Espario
23-10-2003, 15:17
Esperi-capital, the elite forces guarding the Emperors palace looked above their heads when they saw hostile planes circeling above them. Then they looked a little to the left and they saw the sun shining VICTORY IS WITH US AND THE SUN! Shouted the Commander. And the warriors bagan to shoot in a desperate attempt to hit a plane. And then suddenly they saw the Sky was turning red… What is this shouted many men. “Civilians were afaraid for a gas attack while certain warriors began to commit suicide”. “For a long time we have supported the president, the sungod on earth for years we believed what we did was right. But thank’s to the unfair rule of our Emperor our sun has died! Put down thy weapons and pray for mercy to the gods!” “Thousands of soldier began to pray while civilians were running towards them” “Grap their weapons!” Shouted the civilians and they moved to the Emperors palace, afther a short fight the guards were killed and armed civilians began to pull down the gate leading towards the Emperors house. “We must sacrifice our emperor before more gods die and doom will be on us!” Shouted the civilians. 200 metres away they heard a soft sound of a rifle. The Emperor had commited suicide…

Unfortunately the Emperors replacer: the leader of the Esperi armed Forces died in an explosion two days ago. “We no longer have a ruler, the soldier can’t fight without the bless of the sungod and the Emperor, anarchy might fall upon us!” All over the country soldier laid down their weapons and began to pray: “God oh god why have you left us while we were fighting against the white criminals you told us to hate, is it because these white man are you friends like you love us? Then we will surrender. God oh god I ask you to have mercy with me. God oh God may you rest in peace your faithfully the Polynesian private”. The newly installed Emperor the commander of the Esperi elite forces have commanded every military base outpost or virtually everywhere where Esperi soldiers are located to rise the white flag of surrender. “The war is over soldiers of Espario, the white man next to you is no longer your enemy the Emperor is dead and so are it’s ideas. Surrender to the enemy and may mercy be upon you”

At 4:16 PM local time the Esperi armed forces have officially surrendered.
Espario
23-10-2003, 15:33
The news about the surrender spreads through the country with almost the speed of light. Hundreds of Camp Guards are committing suicide as they are afraid for future trials. The news also reaches the para-militaries. PM 4:19, our forces have surrendered the army of Epsario asks you to lay down your weapons and to walk away from the forces, which you have been using as a hideout. “Must we surrender?” Asks a paramilitary. “Do you think we are crazy?” Answers the chief. “Well there is no use sacrificing our warriors for an useless cause”. “Who cares? Establish 250 men and send them down to the tunnels” Says the chief. “Eh.. y… yes sir” Answers the soldier. “Do it NOW. Oh yeah, don’t come back with a chopped of head: no matter white or Polynesian. This nationalist behaviour is insane what we need is to re-establish our drugs trade so we can make money!” Meanwile 250 men walk into the tunnels, the tunnels are so close to the earth surface they can hear people whispering above them and they hear small rivers floating few centimeters above them. Then they move out the tunnels: through a whole covered with leafs. From everywhere soldiers are coming out of the tunnels. Silently the patrol the rainforest until they hear shouts. “Hey that is the labour camp it was taken by the enemy hours ago we must take it back the position might be of vital importance.” From all around paramilitaries began to fire, bullets are flying through tropical leafs and grenades are popping up from the trees. They hear fire back and 2 paramilitaries die of wounds in the first 20 secondes. The fight continues, until they hear a vague shout. The sergeant orders all men to retreat to the tunnels, some find it is difficult to find their way in the jungle they walk straight into their-own-made boobytraps.. Casualties areunknown.
CoreWorlds
23-10-2003, 15:54
Admiral Swenson was extremely suprised and pleased that the war has ended so quickly. If the plan had failed, the Republic of Coreworlds, not to mention allied troops, would have suffered heavy losses taking the capital. Now it is time to withdraw forces and maintain peace and order in the cities.

To: Admiral Phocas
From: Admiral Swenson
Congratulations, buddy! We have won the war and our people will be estatic once they get the news. Now, we will withdraw most of our units except for a small number for peacekeeping. The Cho-to-kians are still a bit bothersome, so we will leave the Ghoststalker and a couple destroyers to make sure they don't make trouble. Our first conflict, and it is a smashing success. I invite you to my ship so we can hammer out what to do post-war. Again, congratulations.

~*~*~

Losses:
300 troops killed
500 wounded
2 choppers downed
2 destroyers and 1 frigate damaged, none sunk
3 tanks destroyed
0 fighters lost
Stamped: Acceptable
CoreWorlds
23-10-2003, 16:04
BREAKING NEWS from CWNN!

Victory!

The war has ended, and it was a smashing success! People danced in the streets and fireworks shot off into the sky. The President has ordered all units to stand down to Defcon 3, medium alert, and they will return home in a few days (read: a couple RW minutes). Once they are home, they will recieve a hero's welcome! Parades and parties are planned and to hell with the cost! We...Have...Won!!!!!
Jeruselem
23-10-2003, 16:08
Following the victory of the allies over the previous government of Espario, the royal edict to send Espario citizens home has been cancelled now.
Shildonia
23-10-2003, 16:49
Our sanctions shall remain in effect until we are sure that the racist policies of the previous regime have been fully repealed. In the meantime, we are prepared to send up to 5000 troops to serve as peacekeepers to aid the transitional period in Espario.
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 17:31
To His Imperial Majesty, the new Emperor of Espario,

It is with joy that we accept the surrender of the new Esperi government. We have authorised First Admiral Lord Phocas to meet with Your Majesty to arrange a lasting peace which will be agreeable to both sides.

In the meantime, we urge Your Majesty to quickly close all death camps, and start the process of making restitutions to the victims of the previous regime of both Polynesian and European background. We ask that you invite the People's Republic of Cho-to-ki to stop the sending of its troops. We promise that Pantocratorian and allied peacekeepers will do their best to maintain the authority of Your Majesty's new government. If Your Majesty believes that Cho-to-ki troops would be of assistance in this matter, then we encourage you to invite a small contingent (a maximum of 3,000 troops with no armoured, aircraft or naval support) to assist you.

Congratulations, Your Majesty, on ending this conflict before it became too bloody. The Holy Empire of Pantocratoria will not abandon Your Majesty's new government to the instability in Espario now - our troops will remain there until Your Majesty's government is secure and Espario has been brought into full compliance with our demands to the old regime.

Filial regards,

ANDREUS I IMP. PANTOCRATORIA
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 17:51
First Admiral Lord Phocas steps foot on Esperi soil for the first time as he steps off the Seahawk chopper from Imperator Andreus. He shakes the hands of the generals waiting to receive him.

"Marvellous job, my Lord Admiral!" complements General Tzimite.

"Thankyou, General. Let us hope that the peace is as easily won as was the war - something tells me that will not be the case. How have your troops advanced?" asks Phocas.

"The First Provincials are securing this base. It is virtually impregnable." says Tzimite. "The Imperial Cataphracti Legion has been divided into its sub-formations and assigned to support the other provincials, who are marching to their assigned peacekeeping locations."

Phocas nods. Soon Pantocratorian troops would be all over the country to ensure a smooth transition of power.
Espario
23-10-2003, 18:11
Andreus I

It is with joy that we accept the surrender of the new Esperi government. We have authorised First Admiral Lord Phocas to meet with Your Majesty to arrange a lasting peace which will be agreeable to both sides.

The meeting can be held as soon as my palace gate is repaired, it suffered much damage when the citizens tried to reach the former Emperor before the coward commited suicide. In my opinion this meeting should also include other topmen from the liberating coalition.

In the meantime, we urge Your Majesty to quickly close all death camps,

This will be causing slight, well actually major problems. You see, during the rule of the first Emperor (OOC: let’s call him Emp. I) all houses of the victims who were sent to concentration camps were destroyed. We rather like the idea that the victims stay in those camps until sufficient shelter is provided for them, of course they will be free to see their families (by the dead sungod I hope they are stillalive) and those who can sleep by friends can be free to do so as well. For those who can’t I think the camps can provide shelter for a few days, although I do believe that shelter must be provided quickly: orders to build new houses have already been given.

and start the process of making restitutions to the victims of the previous regime of both Polynesian and European background.

This will surely happen, although we are not sure how. First of all they will receive much financial support yet I believe the biggest suffering is in their minds.

We ask that you invite the People's Republic of Cho-to-ki to stop the sending of its troops.

I hereby ask Cho-to-ki to stop sending troops and to immediately withdraw it’s troops from our soil.

If Your Majesty believes that Cho-to-ki troops would be of assistance in this matter, then we encourage you to invite a small contingent (a maximum of 3,000 troops with no armoured, aircraft or naval support) to assist you.

We do not want to decide yet about the peace keeping force, that is up to the coalition.

Congratulations, Your Majesty, on ending this conflict before it became too bloody.

You see, unlike the Emperor I do not believe white, black, yellow or purple people are to be judged for their skin colour. But I aslo am a true Patriot, I believe that the Polynesians deserve freedom. But this wasn’t possible with our utterly racist policies. I believed the war had to be stopped to save the lives of the Polynesian people: note that with Polynesian I refer to both European and natives.

The Holy Empire of Pantocratoria will not abandon Your Majesty's new government to the instability in Espario now.

FYI: There is not a real parliament or government in the normal sense of word. Officially the Emperor has a ceremonial status and he only need to sign new law and plans. But as a cause of the new, racist constitution made by Emp. I the Emperor got full power and is both Head of the Government and Chief of State. I hope real elections can soon be arranged, and when that moment comes I will immediately resign from my President status.

our troops will remain there until Your Majesty's government is secure and Espario has been brought into full compliance with our demands to the old regime.

We fully support your troops in our country!

Yours truly,

Emp. II
Bryn Shander
23-10-2003, 18:20
As news of the surrender spread across Espario, Bryn Shander, and the world, the firing both at and from the camp stopped. The Zaku then marched into the camp to secure the now freed prisoners from any possible guerilla attacks.

Elsewhere, the leader of Bryn Shander, Damien Nightbane appeared on camera to give a speech.

"People of Bryn Shander, the war with Espario is over. At 4:19 PM Espario time, the coalition put a plan into effect that caused the people of Espario to rise up and throw down their Emperor's regime. As of now, the majority of our troops are getting ready to return home, but our space borne forces will remain in Espario for as long as it takes to restore order and infrastructure.

This is a glorious victory. Only in the Loum campaign have we had greater success."

-----Losses-----
Troops dead: 247
Wounded: 592
MS lost: 7
Tanks lost: 11
Aircraft lost: 9

Casualties minimal.
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 18:21
To His Imperial Majesty the Second Emperor of Espario,

Our own sister, and the Chancellor of our Imperial Government, Her Imperial Highness the Princess Irene, would like to visit Espario to meet with Your Majesty. We see this visit as a sign of friendship between the Pantocratorian and allied troops (and their governments) and the Esperi people and their new regime.

The Chancellor will conduct talks with Your Majesty in person, and will be able to extend as much assistance as Your Majesty requires in re-establishing stable governments and calling democratic elections.

Filial regards,

ANDREUS I IMP. PANTOCRATORIA
Espario
23-10-2003, 18:21
The Emperor steps into it's car. "Where to go great Emperor?" Says the driver. "To the airfield please" "We will be there in 12 minutes" Answers the driver. While the Emperor is looking around he sees all features reminding him from the war, destroyed buildings crying children men with a messing arm. "So much trouble for what?" Whisperers the Emperor. "We are there" says the driver. "There you have those white man, don't they look gloomy with those white faces?" The driver laughs. "Remember my friend" answers the Emperor "Without these man you would never have been liberated and you would be put against the wall if you even laughed at the Emperor" the driver does not answer...
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 18:27
OOC: We will post our casualties when peacekeeping is over.
Pantocratoria
23-10-2003, 18:29
The Emperor steps into it's car. "Where to go great Emperor?" Says the driver. "To the airfield please" "We will be there in 12 minutes" Answers the driver. While the Emperor is looking around he sees all features reminding him from the war, destroyed buildings crying children men with a messing arm. "So much trouble for what?" Whisperers the Emperor. "We are there" says the driver. "There you have those white man, don't they look gloomy with those white faces?" The driver laughs. "Remember my friend" answers the Emperor "Without these man you would never have been liberated and you would be put against the wall if you even laughed at the Emperor" the driver does not answer...

OOC: If you are going to meet the Chancellor, she won't arrive for a little while (until I am done with her in another thread). When she does arrive it will be at the Pantocratorian and Excalbian base, Andreus David base.
East Islandia
23-10-2003, 18:29
EI volunteers a peacekeeping force
Excalbia
23-10-2003, 19:45
From: VADM Derek Kunle, CO, TF Alpha
To: HQ, General Staff, Citadel Excalbia

All Esperi armed forces have surrendered as of 1616 local time. Operation: Red Sun was successful. The former Emperor has been deposed and is reported dead. The Commander of Esperi’s Elite Forces has been proclaimed the new Emperor and has ordered a complete and immediate surrender.

Pantocratorian forces are moving to secure bases across the island. Other Allied forces have secured the prison camps and are liberating the prisoners. 223rd and 225th Brigades (Mobile) are moving to assist with the camps. 224th and 228th Brigades (Mechanized) are securing the major roads and junctions.

There has been no word from Cho-to-ki forces regarding their intentions. We continue to monitor them, but are taking no hostile actions.

Regards,
Kunle, Commanding , Task Force Alpha

VADM Sir Kunle crossed his arms and allowed himself the faintest smile of satisfaction. Lord Admiral Phocas’ plan had worked and many lives had been spared. “Commander Abolina,” Kunle said as he gestured to his aide, “have the engineering and medical battalions deployed?”

“Yes, sir,” Daniella Abolina said as she he stepped over to the admiral, “the medical units and all their equipment are ashore and moving towards the camps. The last of the engineers are en route now and the last of their equipment is being airlifted in.”

“Good, good. And the Cho-to-ki?”

“No change, sir.”

“Signal all ships to keep an eye out, but take no action.”

“Aye, aye.”

***

An eight-wheeled LAEV arrived in the Pantocratorian based with an electric hum. As the vehicle came to a halt, an officer in green camouflage with a blue beret and two silver stars on his shoulders stepped out. He walked toward the senior Pantocratorian officers, stopped a few paces away and snapped a crisp salute. “Pardon me, sir, would you be General Tzimite and Lord Admiral Phocas? If so, well done, sirs! Major General Michael Tolliver, 2nd Imperial Marines reporting. We have the main crossroads secured and ready to support your operations where needed.”
Excalbia
23-10-2003, 19:52
To: His Imperial Majesty, Emperor of Espario

From: Her Excellency, Lady Christina Freedman, Imperial Chancellor

Your Majesty, may God favor your reign. Thank you for ending this terrible conflict. I assure you that our forces stand ready to assist you and our allies in peacekeeping and reconstruction. When you are ready to convene a meeting with senior officials of all the allied powers, we will send our Minister of State, Albert Cummings, to represent His Imperial Majesty, David IV, and the Government. Until then, Vice Admiral Sir Derek Kunle, our commander in the field, will serve as our diplomatic representative.

Sincerest Regards,
Lady Freedman,
Chancellor

for His Imperial Majesty, David IV
East Islandia
23-10-2003, 22:21
If no one wants my peacekeepers then i'll go.

are they needed?
Crownguard
24-10-2003, 02:26
OOC: Yeah..Ive been busy, sorry)

*Upon recieving news of the action in Espario, the Tercero, Xavier Delryn breathed a sigh of relief. Now, he didnt have to run TWO wars on two different fronts, and yet still maintain efficiency. He wires an aide to deliver a message to the new government of Espario*

To the Sovereign Nation of Espario,

Greetings from the great nation of Crownguard. We are pleased in your sucession of power, and the end of the deplorable practices of the past. Our forces have alreayd recieved orders to withdraw, after leaving suitable food and medical supplies upont he beachhead we established. Consider it as payment for the use of Agent Blue, whose use we may have overemphasized. All soldiers have withdrawn fromt eh camps after providing suitable treatment to the prisoners. Crownguard would be quite willing to send foreign aid to help reestablish your nation on a proper footing, and ask only that Espario be a friendly market for Crownguardian goods as well as an ally in the future.

Respectfully Yours,
Tercero Xavier Delryn
3rd in Command of Crownguard
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs
Espario
24-10-2003, 14:58
To Tercero Xavier Delryn

We thank your nation for the great help for the liberation of my nation, we also are very glad about the fact that you are willing to provide our country with food and medical supplies.

Yours truly, Emp. II
26-10-2003, 04:21
OOC -- Shit. Excuse my absence.

In-Character --

(Revolutionary Leader makes usual comments about anglo-imperialists, reactionaries, sell out of the Polynesian people and oppressed people everywhere, etc. etc.)

Official Statement on the Invasion of Espario -

The People's Republic of Cho-to-ki views the new Espari regime as a reactionary sell-out of Polynesian self-determination. Like a faithful lap dog, all Pantocratorian "requests" were quickly accepted, with re-worded responses that sounded as if a robot had said them.

Just as it had been predicted, the capital, and thus the control of the nation, will be returned to white colonizers who accumulated it through theft and murder. Nothing has changed -- only the flag and who carry out the orders of the owners of capital. The new government has even ceded decisions on peacekeepers to the coalition forces! Already terms are being set on Espari democracy; any re-distribution of wealth must include compensation to the former colonizers. Was any compensation offered to the natives from whom the land was stolen?

Thus, we offer these guidelines for an Espario with any meaningful self-determination for the Polynesian people --

1) If peacekeepers are necessary, there should be an equal number of Coalition troops and Cho-to-ki troops to ensure that election results are not the product of intimidation of a foreign army (with the equal number of Coalition and Cho-to-ki soldiers ensuring that no side gains any added advantages).

2) All foreign soldiers must be withdrawn within a one year period.

3) Elections should take place at the conclusion within an 18 month period.

4) No foreign military bases or soldiers are to be stationed on Espario.

5) A plan to return any land of white colonists above thirty acres to those native farmers who actually work said land should be planned out, with at least 35% of white-owned lands being transferred to landless Polynesians within the next five years.

6) Along with members of the former imperial Espario regime, colonial officials should face war crimes trial in the International Criminal Court or the World Court.

- Cho-to-ki Ministry of Foreign Affairs
East Islandia
26-10-2003, 04:28
East Islandia volunteers a three thousand man peacekeeping force for duty in Espario. We would like to see fair treatment of our Polynesian comrades by the victorious powers, and not a return to imperialistic ways.
Bryn Shander
26-10-2003, 04:28
Again, The Principality of Bryn Shander warns Cho-to-ki that any of it's troops that set foot on Esparian soil will lead to a state of war.
26-10-2003, 05:06
Response to Bryn Shander --

Your threats in no way affect our decision -- if we choose to land peace-keepers, that is our own decision and we will not succumb to imperialist blackmail.

For the time being, we will also be volunteering three thousand peace-keeping troops. If Cho-to-ki peackeepers are fired on by Bryn Shander forces, we will respond with additional forces.
Bryn Shander
26-10-2003, 06:22
I'm warning you one last time. Your troops will never live long enough to touch Esparian soil.
Crownguard
26-10-2003, 06:32
*Public Address to all nations from the Tercero*

Crownguard has finished its limited aims of freein the prisoners. Despite the rhetoric of earlier, we believe the nation of Cho to Ki has every right to send peacekeepers into this affair, as they have a vested interest. The nation has been at war long enough, do not come to blows over how to conduct it in peace. Peacekeepers are just that, meant to keep the peace. Please do not act hypocritical in this affair.

*End transmission*
Pantocratoria
26-10-2003, 11:39
Despite the fact that the opinion of the government of Cho-to-ki is neither welcome nor relevant, the Imperial Government will address its absurd demands.

Thus, we offer these guidelines for an Espario with any meaningful self-determination for the Polynesian people --

1) If peacekeepers are necessary, there should be an equal number of Coalition troops and Cho-to-ki troops to ensure that election results are not the product of intimidation of a foreign army (with the equal number of Coalition and Cho-to-ki soldiers ensuring that no side gains any added advantages).

Cho-to-ki is welcome to send up to 3,000 peacekeepers. There will be no equivalency in numbers whatsoever. Cho-to-ki has demonstrated its desire to go to war with the liberating alliance, for this reason, its troops must obviously be forbidden from entering Espario in numbers sufficient to pose a serious threat to our military control and the authority of the new government.

2) All foreign soldiers must be withdrawn within a one year period.

Our soldiers will be withdrawn as soon as we see fit to withdraw them, which will be as soon as possible.

3) Elections should take place at the conclusion within an 18 month period.

We had hoped to have elections sooner than this, but they will certainly take place within 18 months. This decision has already been reached by the liberating alliance, however, and has absolutely nothing to do with Cho-to-ki's absurd posturing.

4) No foreign military bases or soldiers are to be stationed on Espario.

Our existing bases will be removed when our troops withdraw. Pantocratoria will keep no permanent base in Espario beyond this - nor was this ever our intent.

5) A plan to return any land of white colonists above thirty acres to those native farmers who actually work said land should be planned out, with at least 35% of white-owned lands being transferred to landless Polynesians within the next five years.

There are no "white colonists" - peoples of all races are equal under Esperi law. Any distribution of land will be left to the next democratically elected Esperi government to conduct in a legal fashion after full restitution is made to the liberated victims of the former regime. Incidentally, the Holy Empire of Pantocratoria believes that Cho-to-ki is underestimating the amount of time since Espario was colonised by any Western power - there are no "white colonists" anymore. Your demands are based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation, for which reason they will be ignored.

6) Along with members of the former imperial Espario regime, colonial officials should face war crimes trial in the International Criminal Court or the World Court.

WHAT COLONIAL OFFICIALS? Given that the average descendant of white settlers was sent to death camps for no reason, don't you think that any colonial officials would've been executed years ago? And what war crimes? Human rights abuses (if any took place) are not the same thing as war crimes.

The new Esperi government may handle any legitimate criminals of any ethnicity in any humane fashion it sees fit.

The government of Cho-to-ki is advised to give up on this lost cause - the corrupt and brutal dictatorship it was so desperately trying to prop up has gone, people have been liberated from their death camps, ordinary Polynesians are no longer held as political prisoners for speaking against the old Emperor. Its demands are irrelevant and presume facts and events of which we have no evidence - even the propaganda of the former Esperi regime had more basis in reality than some of Cho-to-ki's demands.
Shildonia
26-10-2003, 13:16
We feel that any redistribution of land should be limited to ethnic Polynesians who can demonstrate a claim to that land through valid legal documentation.
Anything else would simply be robbery on a grand scale.
26-10-2003, 20:10
Cho-to-ki is welcome to send up to 3,000 peacekeepers. There will be no equivalency in numbers whatsoever. Cho-to-ki has demonstrated its desire to go to war with the liberating alliance, for this reason, its troops must obviously be forbidden from entering Espario in numbers sufficient to pose a serious threat to our military control and the authority of the new government.

The contradictions speak for themselves.

Our soldiers will be withdrawn as soon as we see fit to withdraw them, which will be as soon as possible.

...

We had hoped to have elections sooner than this, but they will certainly take place within 18 months. This decision has already been reached by the liberating alliance, however, and has absolutely nothing to do with Cho-to-ki's absurd posturing.

Clarify -- will elections take place while foreign forces remain in Espario?

Our existing bases will be removed when our troops withdraw. Pantocratoria will keep no permanent base in Espario beyond this - nor was this ever our intent.

That remains to be seen.

There are no "white colonists" - peoples of all races are equal under Esperi law. Any distribution of land will be left to the next democratically elected Esperi government to conduct in a legal fashion after full restitution is made to the liberated victims of the former regime. Incidentally, the Holy Empire of Pantocratoria believes that Cho-to-ki is underestimating the amount of time since Espario was colonised by any Western power - there are no "white colonists" anymore. Your demands are based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation, for which reason they will be ignored.

The liberation of Espario from the white colonialist was announced rather recently in the international forum (here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72207&highlight=)). The Pantocratorian denial of the genocide that took place under white colonialism perfectly illustrates both their mindset and like-minded imperialist ambitions.

Even if we were to assume that all of the former white colonialists have left, why should large amounts of land remain in the hand of their descendents who would not own said land if not for the years of brutal colonialism?

WHAT COLONIAL OFFICIALS? Given that the average descendant of white settlers was sent to death camps for no reason, don't you think that any colonial officials would've been executed years ago?

See the above link to the announcement regarding the overthrow of colonialism.

And what war crimes? Human rights abuses (if any took place) are not the same thing as war crimes.

Colonialism is always war. The was armed resistance to the former colonial regime, if we remember correctly.

The government of Cho-to-ki is advised to give up on this lost cause - the corrupt and brutal dictatorship it was so desperately trying to prop up has gone, people have been liberated from their death camps, ordinary Polynesians are no longer held as political prisoners for speaking against the old Emperor.

This is revisionist history of the highest degree. Any international, neutral investigation will most likely reveal that the killings were at its peaks during the coalition bombing and subsequent invasion. Little premeditated killings of whites took place during the internment process or the actual internment of whites. Obviously, a weak but repressive government will attack where it is most powerful (in this case, the internment camps) when under attack from another foreign power.

The Espari government offered to release 12.5 million white prisoners, only leaving the 2.3 million prisoners "classified as criminals." Despite the Espari government opening up to a diplomatic solution, nothing could quench the thirst of Pantocratoria for Polynesian blood and a lap dog government. No diplomatic solution was pursued by the Pantocratorian government.

The rhetoric by the imperialist is lies piled upon lies, and all rationalized with a dose of imperial hypocrisy.

- Cho-to-ki Ministry of Foreign Affairs
CoreWorlds
27-10-2003, 02:39
1. This is revisionist history of the highest degree. Any international, neutral investigation will most likely reveal that the killings were at its peaks during the coalition bombing and subsequent invasion. Little premeditated killings of whites took place during the internment process or the actual internment of whites. Obviously, a weak but repressive government will attack where it is most powerful (in this case, the internment camps) when under attack from another foreign power.

The Espari government offered to release 12.5 million white prisoners, only leaving the 2.3 million prisoners "classified as criminals." Despite the Espari government opening up to a diplomatic solution, nothing could quench the thirst of Pantocratoria for Polynesian blood and a lap dog government. No diplomatic solution was pursued by the Pantocratorian government.


1. That may have been true, but we do and will pay reparations for damages. We, of course can never replace lives, but we had no choice, for the cowardly former government chose to hide its troops behind its women and children. They are the barbarians, not us. They killed the people, yes, but as far as we could see, we saved more people than were killed. Again, since they killed the prisoners, when we clearly demanded that they be set free, well, i suggest you must look at your choice of friends, and even yourselves in the mirror.

2. But there were only a few people that deserved to be imprisoned, the Nazi terrorists group, not a whole ethnic group. 2.3 million Nazi terrorists? Presposterous! Your lies are nothing but cow dung. Correction, we did use diplomacy before the war. We asked, kindly I might add, that those prisoners be released, and what did your 'friends' do? They start killing the prisoners! If they did what we asked, which was to release all whites not connected to the Nazi group, we wouldn't have had this terrible war.

Therefore, your lies are nothing more than foul, racist hatred that even the roaches would not eat. Leave us alone, and do not bother us again.
Pantocratoria
27-10-2003, 17:48
Whereas the ramblings of the Cho-to-ki Minister for Foreign Affairs are most incoherent with almost no grounding in fact whatsoever, the Imperial Government will not continue to lower itself to address Cho-to-ki's baseless accusations. The Imperial Government has behaved above reproach in this matter. We will restate this one last time.

In the time since Espario was "recently liberated" from "white colonialism", the Pantocratorian population has grown by over 200 million souls. (OOC: A month is an age in NS) You will note that the Esperi propaganda with which you furnished us to support your claims refers to the previous democratically elected socialist government as the tool of "white colonists". It does not claim it was a white colonial government, it merely draws links between the socialist party and white colonists (who, one would imagine, would be diametrically ideologically opposed to socialism) in order to discredit the socialist party which the illegitimate usurper government ousted and outlawed.

Cho-to-ki is ignoring the very cause for this war when it claims that there were no significant killings until the war started! Prisoners were killed at a rate of 5,000 a day during the war by our estimates, and the war lasted only a few days. On a single day before the war, Espario killed 50,000 prisoners (source: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78228):

Also 160,000 Criminals were neutralized afther killing many MP's and guards, another 130,000 were captured: 50,000 will be executed within 24 hours. Others will be free to start working on the factory again: all who refuse can expect to sleep with the fishes. May this never happen again to our most respectful MP who died in the fight against white beasts.

You will note in that same source that the Imperial Government and its allies repeatedly attempted to find a diplomatic solution. Finally, we were forced by Esperi human rights abuses to make demands for an end to the madness. When the former Esperi regime did not cooperate in full, we attacked. You will also note that the former Esperi regime offered to release some 12 million prisoners and keep 2 million, which it deemed as "real criminals", in exchange for being allowed to continue its policies on everything but the internment and genocide front! Given that the day before this offer was made in a private telegram, which Pantocratoria shared with the world to demonstrate how straight forward and honest we have been in regards to this action, the former regime classified ALL white males as "real criminals", and given that the over 2 million men who would remain in the camps had still been afforded no real trial, and no evidence was provided about their guilt, this "offer" by Espario was seen for what it really was - a stalling tactic, a desperate ruse by a desperate dictator.

If these 2 million men who remained were "real criminals", that would mean that 1 in 7 white males in Espario were guilty of what you call "war crimes". Given that this percentage is absurdly high as to be so statistically unlikely as to give one the impression it was totally arbitrarily decided upon, and given that no evidence had been provided of their guilt, and given that they were never put on trial for these supposed "war crimes", we rejected the "generous" offer to keep 1 in 7 white men in death camps, and to keep the corrupt and illegitimate Esperi regime in place, in favour of liberating all political prisoners, giving the Esperi people of all ethnicities back the democracy which the previous regime had seized from their grasp, and rebuilding their shattered country.

The Imperial Government will not respond to any further Cho-to-ki posturing - we're too busy putting Espario back on its feet.

Sir Jacques Antoniou
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Imperial Government of the Holy Empire of Pantocratoria
Espario
27-10-2003, 19:42
Former minister captured!
This evening the Esperi Police captured on of the most hated and wanted minister of the foreign regime. Manutapu, well known for it’s harsh leadership within it’s ministry built many Concentration Camps for many innocent Esperi people. He, unlike the Emperor (who was said to do most to keep himself in power) truly believed that what he was doing was right. He is accused of commanding many guards to kill thousands of innocent people and is also being tried for the murder of 350 what he called “white Polynesians” which refers to concentration camp guards who refused to operate with systematically murder potential millions of innocent Esperi’s. Afther the regime had fallen Manutapu joined para-military forces and gave them advise about how to overthrow the current Emperor. The Esperi police has asked both Peacekeeping forces and Esperi people to look for leaders of the former regime. Still wanted are the minister of education, the minister of healthcare and the minister of public housing. Also a number of 2,500 local chiefs are wanted as tehy are accused of operating with the (unfortunately) growing Para-military forces in the Esperi jungle.
Pantocratoria
27-10-2003, 19:46
The Imperial Government applauds the new government of Espario's efforts to hunt down the criminals which abused the country of Espario for so long. Pantocratorian peacekeepers are often involved in fighting with para-military formations. Whilst we are unable to release exact figures about the estimated casualties sustained by the para-militaries, in the fighting, 34 of our own soldiers have been lost so far, and many more besides have been wounded.

We are determined to "win the peace", so to speak, and bring the criminals who brought Espario to ruin to justice.

First Admiral Lord Phocas
Commander-in-Chief, Pantocratorian peacekeeping taskforce
Espario
27-10-2003, 19:50
Para-military forces kidnapped innocent Community-Chief! This evening a group of para militaries kidnapped a Community-Chief responsible for the arrest of the former minister. Thousands of of inhabitants of the village are desperately hoping for it’s return. The Community-Chief is well known for it’s anti-racist policy and was tortured during the regime of Emp. I and later brought to a Concentration Camp.

http://www.germainesluau.com/images/sunset_dancer_circle.jpg
A woman is praying to gods for the liberation of the loved Community-Chief, Esperi people of all Ethnic groups are highly religious (but only a minority is Christian) which was openly abused by the former regime.

10,000 VICTIMS OF ESPERI DEATH CAMP ARRIVE IN THEIR OWN VILLAGE!
For days the entire community has helped building houses for the 10,000 victims. This evening they were officially declared as “livable” by the Community-Chief. Unfortunately he was kidnapped only 3 hours later.

http://www.oap.ucsb.edu/diversity/events/dance/images/poly1.gif
Esperi dancers are performing an act for the 10,000 victims who just arrived a few hours ago. Polynesian and White people are living in even a greater harmony than ever before.
Espario
27-10-2003, 20:24
The Emperor has decided to change to racist pro-fascist national anthem by a modern anthem strongly opposing fascism and racism.

Old National Anthem

Gods save our glorious Emperor,
Long live our Polynesian Emperor,
Gods save our Emperor,
Give him happiness and power,
Victory and Polynesian flowers,
May he always rule of our superior race,
Gods save our Emperor!

Here is explained that the Emperor is superior and that the Polynesian race is superior as well

Polynesians arise,
Fight the white colonist,
and make them crawl
Confound their Nazist tricks,
Object their imperialist spirit,
Grap to thy bows and clubs,
Murder them all!

This propaganda paragraph was written to pour hate into the mind of the Polynesian people and make them “arise” against it’s white brothers

The Polynesian flag stands tall!
And will let our enemies fall,
Finally,
May the flag represent our culture,
Protecting us from whites and torture,
May it supply us with a prosperous future,
The Polynesian flag stands tall!

This part is briefly the same as the first one, as the flag represents the Emperor and his mind



Oh sungod come alive!
Thy need to protect thy childs!
Against injustice,
Stop our suffering,
Injustice and racism,
Let Esperio unite,
Don’t start useless fights!

Explains that every Esperi is equal, it also encourages Esperi’s not to fight eachother

Esperi’s arise,
Against the evil racist,
And make him crawl,
Confound his utterly foolish tricks,
Object their hatefull spirit
Grap to thy bows and clubs,
And face them all!

Encourages the people of Espario to fight White/Polynesian racism.
Gods protect our soil,
Our holy soil,
Don’t let it be spoiled,
Save our palm trees,
Supply us with our basic needs,
Help the struggling dolphins,
Gods save our nature!

Explains how important the environment is for Espario, and for the Esperi culture.
Pantocratoria
28-10-2003, 09:06
A special detachment of 120 soldiers and support staff from the Pantocratorian First Provincial Legion has been assigned to the recovery of the missing Community Chief. They have engaged para-militaries in the area surrounding the Community Chief's village. Para-militaries are urged to surrender their arms and to release the Community Chief immediately, or face destruction. Another 120 man detachment from the First Provincials has been assigned to the village itself to protect it from para-militaries who may attempt to attack the 10,000 recently released victims of the previous regime.

First Admiral Lord Phocas
Commander in Chief, Pantocratorian Peacekeeping Forces