NationStates Jolt Archive

Really, I wanna know the facts here.

Honostly, we just don't care who people sleep with. We don't even have a legal institution of Marige(there are provisions for households of multipule persons, taking dependents and independents into acount; aside from that, there are private contracts to handle the legal aspects(ie division of property, etc. in case of seperation), and whatever social cerimonies one desires if you want to have a wedding.)

We like to live and let live. Rianisis doesn't care what two people do in the bedroom; none of anyone elses concern. Ignorance is bliss.

We treat them as everyother sentient creature. We oppress them and work them 3/4 of the way to death. What they do in thier own homes is none of our concern, as long as it doesn't threaten the security of the nation.

Same here, as long as there's concious mutual consent between all people involved and they're all adults and not retarded or something, we couldn't care less. People are allowed to marry in any religion they like, but it's there's no legal ties attached to.

this is flaimbate

It depends. Sometime we'll kill them or deport them. Most who are gay don't admit it because they know what would happen lol

"The government has no room in the bedroom."

this is flaimbateNo, not unless someone makes it that way... right now it is just a question. Now, if some nazi nation shows up and spouts off... that's gonna change everything.

ANYTHING can be turned into flambait, if certian things are said. I could turn a discussion about swiss cheese into a flame war, if I tried.

We treat them as everyother sentient creature. We oppress them and work them 3/4 of the way to death. What they do in thier own homes is none of our concern, as long as it doesn't threaten the security of the nation.

:lol: 8)

We kill them for the single purpose that god created Adam and Eve, which were both of the opposite sex.

Gay people are killed on sight by our police force.

Homoesexuality is ILLEGAL .

japany, i kill your people on site 2!

We do not discriminate the small amount of homosexuals in our country and they are granted the same rights as others, however we do not promote it and we certaintly do not campaign for it. They live a normal life and accept the countrys wishes.

The initiation of homosexual behavior is merely another tool to help us mold society into harmony. When necessary, it is especially useful at population size control, the sequestering of unfavorable alleles, or selection against deleterious phenotypes.

-Research advisor to the Chairman, Ma'tok Singh

we ban public expressions of homosexuality as it could corrupt our children. We will never interfere with what is a (mostly) harmless act, unless the situation should warrant our action when we would take appropriate action (i.e AIDS epidemic). This is not homophobic rather than accepting that children are impressionable and that same-sex relationships are not natural but such desires can occur. it is banned in the same way that prostitution is banned - would a mother want her child asking "Mummy, why are those two men kissing like that?" any more than "Mummy, what does that shop sell?" when walking past an open whore-house with ads in the window?

I love to hear you opinions.

With my nation we depot them to a Sebecean protected planet, where they can live and prospere on their own. We voted on this because tensions we growing between the religious zealots and the homosexuals. We deport, no more of relocate, them for the security on both sides. Plus homosexuals were the nuber 1 transmiters of desease, since the we generally homeless due to the population of religious zealots.

Note to all- The homosexuals in my nation still have the right to vote.

japany, i kill your people on site 2!

Your gay so i kill you too.

japany, i kill your people on site 2!

Your gay so i kill you too.

HEY THIS IS A INFORMATION FORUM, NOT A WAR FORUM, SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO FIGHT, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE; HOWEVER IF YOU WANT TO PEACEFULLY DEBATE HOW HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD BE TREATED, THAN YOU CAN TALK HERE.

Nothing. They're no different from anyone else.

And as far as that "we will kill them on site" comment, don't listen to them. They're obivously homophobic as is.

Gays in DGNT are 'corrected', mostly via a Utopia Chip dervitive, sometimes through several days of torture, no worse than any other sort of deviants 8)

We do not allow gay marrige, but we do nothing to gay people themselves.

we Deport or shoot them.

We either kill them or send them to concentration camps.

I chose "does nothing." Mind you, I'm not liberal by any means. We simply do not give the fudge packers any rights. They are not allowed to marry or display public affection or live together. We have had very few instances of homosexuality throughout our nation's history, as our "fiercely conservative" citizenry tends to treat them rather poorly when they are discovered. We DO NOT, however, sanction the murder of sodomites.

We either kill them or send them to concentration camps.

Aren't those the same thing?

We either kill them or send them to concentration camps.

Aren't those the same thing?

In concentration camps, they live but live as free labor, working on construction sites for life.

I do exactly the same thing as Ryanania does:
We simply do not give the fudge packers any rights. They are not allowed to marry or display public affection or live together. We have had very few instances of homosexuality throughout our nation's history, as our "fiercely conservative" citizenry tends to treat them rather poorly when they are discovered. We DO NOT, however, sanction the murder of sodomites.

How does your nation handle homosexuals
?

The way... any other... sentient... free-willed... individual should be treated...

my nation supports them as we would anyother person. (maybe i have a biased view)

I do exactly the same thing as Ryanania does:
Ryanania wrote:
We simply do not give the fudge packers any rights. They are not allowed to marry or display public affection or live together. We have had very few instances of homosexuality throughout our nation's history, as our "fiercely conservative" citizenry tends to treat them rather poorly when they are discovered. We DO NOT, however, sanction the murder of sodomites.

you really could have used a less offensive term for homosexuals, like HOMOSEXUALS!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are people too.

"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
-Pierre Trudeau
Dec. 22, 1967

This quote reflects the view of my country. However, we have expanded their rights to outside of the bedroom. Homosexual couples have the same rights of hetrosexual couples in private and in public.

kill gay men...

however, we encourage, and sometimes videotape, our precious lesbians

those east barakan women are crazy, yo!!!

I do exactly the same thing as Ryanania does:
Ryanania wrote:
We simply do not give the fudge packers any rights. They are not allowed to marry or display public affection or live together. We have had very few instances of homosexuality throughout our nation's history, as our "fiercely conservative" citizenry tends to treat them rather poorly when they are discovered. We DO NOT, however, sanction the murder of sodomites.

you really could have used a less offensive term for homosexuals, like HOMOSEXUALS!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are people too.

And you could have spelled my nation name correctly. I was nerely quoting Ryanania; I don't call them fudge packers myself, but I still condemn their actions, along with most of my population.

Support the empire of Crownguard, serve your basic training year in the military (like everyone else), and get a free education. Thats all thats needed, being gay or straight is not the realm of the government. Since were atheistic, we dont have a "god" saying to kill others based on orientation. Homosexuals have full rights and citizenship in the Empire, and can serve in the military or public sector if they so choose (fully integrated male-female units).

there are seriously a lot of sick people in this thread. I would treat them with as much respect as a heterosexual person would receive. Sexual preference is their own business, not the governments.

Under the old one-party regime of Ion Teodorescu, Banatolia never officially admitted to having any homosexuals of either gender within its borders.
Following the collapse of the Teodorescu regime and the increase in openness in Banatolia itself, homosexuality is becoming increasingly visible. The government of Constantine Aranian is yet to formalise a policy on "gay rights", however a more enlightened view than the previous regime is expected.

kill gay men...

however, we encourage, and sometimes videotape, our precious lesbians

those east barakan women are crazy, yo!!!

Due to your deplorable policies towards male homosexuals we recomend sancations against the nation of East Barakas.

"Surely the government is in no position to play favorites between genders of homosexuals. This nation must surely be a deplorable hellhole. Gays from East Barakas will be allowed as refugees if I am elected." - Vladimir Lenin III, Socialist Party Supreme Counciler candidate

We don't care if any of our citizens are homosexual, just do do anything nasty in public, that goes for heterosexuals also.

The people's socialist Commonwealth of Beth Gellert is likely to support Soviet Haaregrad's reccomendation.

"I am taking my forty-trillion dollar economy and going home." Said one Beth Gellen when asked for his thoughts regarding certain regressive states and future trade-prospects there-with.

We do... absolutly nothing. They are given every right any other citizen has.

The policy of Zeltec is that homosexuals are allowed to live so long as they do not have intercourse with people or persons of the same gender, at which time they have broken a law which warrants the penalty of death. In short, they are given the same recognition as people who present themselves to animals, or cheat on their husbands.

The Community of Gurthark does not prohibit any sexual relationship between consenting adults.

We would not even *consider* denying someone rights based on sexual orientation or identity.

Sincerely,
Tse-Tung Foothle
Secretary for Social Welfare
Community of Gurthark

kill gay men...

however, we encourage, and sometimes videotape, our precious lesbians

those east barakan women are crazy, yo!!!

Due to your deplorable policies towards male homosexuals we recomend sancations against the nation of East Barakas.

"Surely the government is in no position to play favorites between genders of homosexuals. This nation must surely be a deplorable hellhole. Gays from East Barakas will be allowed as refugees if I am elected." - Vladimir Lenin III, Socialist Party Supreme Counciler candidate

Niesi seconds that.

We correct any deviant behavior we come across, no matter how small or insignificant. Vast resources are allocated towards re-education and indoctrination programs, however, in extreme cases, we do concede defeat and excise the cancer from society via terminal means.

kill gay men...

however, we encourage, and sometimes videotape, our precious lesbians

those east barakan women are crazy, yo!!!

Due to your deplorable policies towards male homosexuals we recomend sancations against the nation of East Barakas.

"Surely the government is in no position to play favorites between genders of homosexuals. This nation must surely be a deplorable hellhole. Gays from East Barakas will be allowed as refugees if I am elected." - Vladimir Lenin III, Socialist Party Supreme Counciler candidate

Niesi seconds that.


we do too, infact we are begining a cursade to liberate all homosexuals opressed in other nations. we will accept any and all homosexual refuges.
if your nation will not care for your own people we will gladly take them in, and defend them. these are your people for cthulhu's sake....

If your nation will not care for your own people we will gladly take them in, and defend them. these are your people for cthulhu's sake....

Oh the irony of that statment.


But frankly, I can't understand why any other straight guy would hate gay guys; they're theoreticly more apealing to women than us, yet they willingly take themselves out of the compitition when they 'come out of the closet'. :wink: :wink: :D :D

ooc: lol, that is so true. and i get so much crap for being gay, i just tell people to fuck off. i saw this post and was like "yup, i gotta go to war"

:idea: The government is not concerned with sexual orientation.... there are no laws against homosexuality, public nudity or even drug use... lyncing people who are "different" is also a common practice among the public... it's like that saying "the government that governs least, govers best"...

In short, any fruitcake-fudgepacker can frocil down the street wearing nothing but green jello if it is his desire... most often though, he will be running from a bunch of torch-bearing hatemonger nonsense-bible readers wondering where the police are.... what police? we don't even have jails...

there are seriously a lot of sick people in this thread. I would treat them with as much respect as a heterosexual person would receive. Sexual preference is their own business, not the governments.

The Most Serene Republic of Penguingonia concurs.

What if we send you guys some of our lesbian tapes? Will sanctions still be implemented?

The action is hot. Trust me, those sexy college co-eds will do ANYTHING!! They're hardly even wearing a smile!

What if we send you guys some of our lesbian tapes? Will sanctions still be implemented?

The action is hot. Trust me, those sexy college co-eds will do ANYTHING!! They're hardly even wearing a smile!

I will give you one warning to stop your immoral ways. If you choose to ignore me, sanctions will be implemented, and if you still choose to treat homosexuals terribly, we will be forced to contact our allies for action, diplomatically, and maybe even militarily.

We kill them for the single purpose that god created Adam and Eve, which were both of the opposite sex.

Gay people are killed on sight by our police force.

Homoesexuality is ILLEGAL .

I agree fullheartedly and hereforth send a treat of alliance to japany

If anything, we're a net importer of homosexuals, just like pretty much every minority, as part of the ever-popular Get Money For Giving Us People You Don't Like and Give Them To Us Or We'll Send Over The Bolos programs.

but why sanctions against us? we're only killing off roughly half of our homosexuals, not like some of these other countries where they kill them all off. at least we give the weaker ladies a fair shot ... but the homosexual men? aren't they already dead? anyways... before u go after us, go after the other hitler countries where they kill off ALL of their homosexuals.

My country will kill anyone who shows affection towards another in public, as long as its in their home it does not concern us unless it affects the economy.

My country will kill anyone who shows affection towards another in public, as long as its in their home it does not concern us unless it affects the economy.

We treat them as citizens.

ANYTHING can be turned into flambait, if certian things are said. I could turn a discussion about swiss cheese into a flame war, if I tried.

Sure. All someone would have to do would be to mention Nazi Gold and it would be out there for all to argue.

And don't even get me started on French vs. Belgian vs. Freedom Fries...

:lol:

"We dont have any gay people, period."

-Chancellor James Lynch, Commonwealth of Seversky.

The X in our flag is for 'tolerance' (Rejistanian: 'Xkeja'), so the Free Land of Rejistania sees no reason, why not to grant homosexuals equal rights. Same-Sex marriages are allowed and common. There are special anti-discrimmination laws.

The policy of Zeltec is that homosexuals are allowed to live so long as they do not have intercourse with people or persons of the same gender, at which time they have broken a law which warrants the penalty of death. In short, they are given the same recognition as people who present themselves to animals, or cheat on their husbands.

Some groups in Hugin are concerned over the last segment in this statement from the government of Zeltec. Namely, their concern is whether or not this same penalty applies to both male and female adulterers.

In response to the original question, homosexuals in the People's Republic of Hugin are given the same rights as any other homo sapiens sapiens, including legal marriage.

~
Alrich Oppsdal, Minister of Foregin Affairs

OOC- most people that criticise homosexuals are teenagers or kids. But most people are mature enough to know that, it is nobodys business what someone does in bed, it is nobody's business who does what.

We kill them for the single purpose that god created Adam and Eve, which were both of the opposite sex.

Gay people are killed on sight by our police force.

Homoesexuality is ILLEGAL .

I agree fullheartedly and hereforth send a treat of alliance to japany

and i thought my nation was oppresive. wow, i think i know where to program my nukes.

ANYTHING can be turned into flambait, if certian things are said. I could turn a discussion about swiss cheese into a flame war, if I tried.

Sure. All someone would have to do would be to mention Nazi Gold and it would be out there for all to argue.

And don't even get me started on French vs. Belgian vs. Freedom Fries...



:!: :!: :!: AHH! Don't say Fr**d*m Fr**s! :!: :!: :!:

We don't ralyy care about peoples sexual prefrences. We have legal gay marriage and it makes no difference what gebder someone favors anyway so why bother?

OOC- most people that criticise homosexuals are teenagers or kids. But most people are mature enough to know that, it is nobodys business what someone does in bed, it is nobody's business who does what.

We're not teenagers, we're not kids. Sodomy sucks.

Signed,
East Barakas (not teenagers, not kids...but huge lesbian fans...the hot lesbians, not those manly ones. Ewwww.)

Homosexuals has the same rights as heterosexuals at the moment in Rumaniac.
As the dictatorlike emperor I am, I see no reason why that should change either.
Unless of course I get attacked sexually by a male of their kind.
But with my superior policeforce I don't think that is too probable.

Alshim Dahiz - Emperor of Rumaniac

OOC- most people that criticise homosexuals are teenagers or kids. But most people are mature enough to know that, it is nobodys business what someone does in bed, it is nobody's business who does what.

OOC: I would remind you that, as this is in international incidents, we are strongly encouraged to respond *IC*, which means that views presented on this thread do not necessarily represent the views of the person posting. Really, what serious roleplayer would want to play a country that agreed with themself in every way? And of course, if they're a good roleplayer, you may never know there's a difference between what they believe and what their country believes.

We kill them for the single purpose that god created Adam and Eve, which were both of the opposite sex.

Gay people are killed on sight by our police force.

Homoesexuality is ILLEGAL .

I agree fullheartedly and hereforth send a treat of alliance to japany

and i thought my nation was oppresive. wow, i think i know where to program my nukes.

( OOC: An Oct 19 nation has nukes? Sounds.... like your nation needs the ignore cannons fired on it :) )

To all nations in this forum.

I will instigate all nations that are taking place in this discussion to be more carefully on how you express yourself when giving ideas on such touchy topic. First of all you are talking about human beings and not cattle. You cannot buy a person, that is so ethical and politically wrong, I mean this is an expression that should have disappeared when the abolishing of slavery finally came and restricted ignorant people of mistreating other human beings.

Secondly if you really do not know anything about the topic, you should not say anything and just read and learn from a person that has knowledge about it (if such a thing exists in this forum).

Third, do not judge because you never know who in your own family is gay, starting from your father, brother or uncle….. so just to be a little bit sensitive, pay extra attention when expressing your ideas in order to avoid offending people.

Hope you can still have some fun without insulting others!

Iuthia allows them to do what pretty much everyone else is allow to do, including marry. After all, the personal lives of our citizens are not our concern unless it can be proven that they wish to oppose the government.

On another note, Iuthia also allows the completely freedom go around naked if you wish as well as the right to take any drug you want… most of the smoke a little cannabis but otherwise they don’t need drugs to make them happy, being the 450th most happy nation in all the world (UN poll).

To all nations in this forum.

I will instigate all nations that are taking place in this discussion to be more carefully on how you express yourself when giving ideas on such touchy topic. First of all you are talking about human beings and not cattle. You cannot buy a person, that is so ethical and politically wrong, I mean this is an expression that should have disappeared when the abolishing of slavery finally came and restricted ignorant people of mistreating other human beings.

Secondly if you really do not know anything about the topic, you should not say anything and just read and learn from a person that has knowledge about it (if such a thing exists in this forum).

Third, do not judge because you never know who in your own family is gay, starting from your father, brother or uncle….. so just to be a little bit sensitive, pay extra attention when expressing your ideas in order to avoid offending people.

Hope you can still have some fun without insulting others!

( OOC post )
First: Slavery is acceptable in Zeltec in some instances.

Second: No argument.

Third: I don't care, my nation's leader wouldn't care. I have stopped talking to people in my family because they committed adultery, I would do the same if they were homosexuals. These people become dead to me. Stop being the PC police now, please.