Fourth fleet moved off coast of New Democrats
In an act of proatection the fourth fleet is on the move for a defensive posture off New Democrats int he fleet are 4 Nimitz Carriers, 8 Iowa Class battle ships. 8 Cruiser. 250 SPRUCE class destroyers. 340 F/A hornets, and 8 L.A. class subs.
Your ships will be guarded to the death by my airforce. Unfourntunatle my naval ports have not yet been fully developed as my ships have not yet been built.
That's ok. Also we move in some of our SAM postitions to defend your wonderful country. We are consdiering also sending in the 2nd fleet.
Ok We now Move the 2nd fleet in too. Its identical but this time it only has 140 destroyers because all of our 5 fleets are only surpossed to have 200.
Harmonian vessels due to that hostile actiona re banned from coming withen 100 miles of our ships, unless New Democrats says other wise.
sry I meant 150 destroyers.
I have no hostilities with that nation. Why should I ban them from my coast?
Message from General Gorbechev
"Lima Beans has moved its ships into our waters, thats fine, we are their allies. However, they CANNOT influence our country into conforming to their ideals and therefore must provide a reason to ban Harmonian vessels from our waters."
Message from the President
"What hostilities have the Harmonian fleets imposed upon you Lima beans? You have been very scarce in your details. And please note that any attack will bring in the 20 nations of the MasterDebaterLand as well as The New Found Land and the United States of Stapestry against you. These are not hostilities, just a warning for nothing of stupidity"
END TRANSMISSION
OOC: okay, you guys are the epitamy of godmoddery.
how many fleets do you have Lima Beans?! even 4 is pushing it for a nation as small&young as you. And New democrats, that goes for you but even moreso
Ok we end the ban on Harmona, just It wasn't your coast it was mys hips. He has eben very hostile to me int he past JULIAN
McLeod03
19-10-2003, 18:27
As the massive fleet sailed towards New Democrats, five submarines trail far below them, passive sonar displaying the fleet in all its glory.
The largest of the submarines, the MSF Leviathon, sister ship of the Monitor, knifed through the waters, her sensor operators mapping out the positinos of the largest ships, ready for an attack if provoked.
Around her, her four Freeport class escort submarines spreadout, their own sensors laying in plots of targets.
The 1st SCBG was ready for battle.
OOC: You cannot support this many ships. how many times do you have to say it. I barely have this size navy at my age. Scale it down enormously. Please, for the sake of RP, before the IGNORE squad come in.
Ok. We have gotten 1.6 trillion do youw ant the links?
How am I God Moding?
I have on these on order
1 SM/M Normandy-class Ballistic Missile Submarine
3 S/CC Brittanica-class AEGIS Cruiser
That is the extent of my navy. I wish to know how this is Godmoding?
New Democrats hes talking about me.
McLeod03
19-10-2003, 18:38
Ok. We have gotten 1.6 trillion do youw ant the links?
Yes. every single link.
You simply don't have the population to support this many ships, nor the budget. Once that 1.6 trillion has gone (btw, i refuse to accept the 600 billion gained from selling jono land, because you didn't sell the land, soemone else did.)
Plus, how can someone who got annexed, invaded, and nuked have this size navv. Its impossible.
Ok heres the link for the 1 trillion http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82594
That money was givin to you, to restore your country, not to be spent on military. You had to have spent at least 1 Trillian to restore your city from many nuclear strikes. Therefore either: A) You don't have 1 Trillion, cause your a good leader and decieded to help your people out. or B) Your an idiot, who spent the Trillion on arms, and basically spitting on your own population, and therefor you are still a radioactive lake.
No we spend 500 Billion. One rebuilding it was to "restore" our country that includes milatary. plus we had gottena previous 600 Billion
McLeod03
19-10-2003, 18:48
Ok. Thats fine. BUt that was what, two dyas ago. Where are the linsk to buying this stuff, and that means you have two years to fit them out, train the crews, and deploy them.
In this tiem the costs from buying the ships (esitmating around 600-700 billion +) would increase, including wages etc, and your economy is not strong enough ot support this.
ESPECIALLY after a civil war, three nukings, a rebuild scheme, and more.
If you really boguht all this, the ships would be badly maintained, poorly crewed by starving crewmen who would jump at thie chance to mutiny, and your population would starving, disgruntled, dying, and ready for a revolution.
Cut the numbers by AT LEAST a quarter, or everyone will call you a godmodder AGAIN. Sorry, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.
I know we only keep a few a sea at once. Usually we only have 1 while the other 4 are a t dock rotting away. Unmanned. We now wiht draw the second fllet. Happy?
McLeod03
19-10-2003, 18:57
Not really
Disband three fleets, and you should be just about right, AFAIC. Other people might disagree, but you are only a 45 million nation, and your military must be well over 10%, which most poeple really don't like around here.
No how is it 4.5 million ppl. I'll do a compermise I'll disband three fleets wor a while and I get one back every 2 days?
McLeod03
19-10-2003, 19:04
No no no no no and no.
Try phasing them over the next two months. Fleets this size will be VERY difficult to maintain, unless you have no land or air forces, which is just stupid.
Presidential Transmission
"Due to recent events on the world stage, I request that Lima Beans second fleet be withdrawn and dismantled until further notice. The first fleet may remain within our waters and able to sail freely"
End Transmission
Mushroomius
19-10-2003, 19:16
OOC: Why don't you fellows read the stickies? Militaries of 5% are scorned upon, more reasonably is a 2-2.5% military.
McLeod03
19-10-2003, 19:19
OOC: Why don't you fellows read the stickies? Militaries of 5% are scorned upon, more reasonably is a 2-2.5% military.
If thats aiemd at me, i know this, i have about 3%, rising to 5% if i get attacked.
I only have an army strength of 200,000 personal (about 2.35 percent of population). These men are a total of my Air Land and Sea Personel.
Thank You
Ok first ofa ll I got over a trillion dollars. Second I knwo they're difficult to maintain so I only use one at a time. I am only using one at a time unless I'm at war. And my milatary doens't use 4.5 million ppl!