Military expanded
The miltary of Kahta will be expanded heavily in the coming weeks. I will begin posting what I plan to purchase in a few RL hours.
EDIT:
I now need the following (Modern Tech)
Army
It's time for a re-arment of the army.
I need
42,000 M4/M203
2,100 M224 60mm Mortar
72,000 M3 Bradleys
36,400 Benelli Shotguns
36,400 M98A1 Javelins
36,400 Barrett M82A1
36,400 HK MSG-90A1
36,400 Reinmetall MG3
3,640 UH-1 Hueys
36,400 MK-19 Automatic Grenade Lunchers
10,000 M1-A2 Abrams
Air Force
120 F/A-18 Superhornets
1000 F-15's
500 F-14
2,000 F-22
50 P-3
100 EA-6B
100 C-17A
100 C-130
100 E-767
100 KC-767
100 B-52
100 E-2
100 MH-60
100 B-2
500 Tornado
Navy
30 Iowa Class BB
50 Arliegh Burke DD
50 Ticonderoga Class C
5 United States Class CVN
35 Ohio Class SSBN
Also,
100 Ro-Ro ships that can carry 100 tanks each.
My military to needs to be expanded, perhaps we can form some sort of ally relationship, share resources, and guard ones backs. Let it be known that stapestry is very advanced in space exploration, along with development.
Matthew Nowaczewski
United States of Stapestry
President
bump items added.
I know I can probobly not afford all of this at once, but keep in mind that I have over $2 Trillion in the bank. I can also set up other things that will be valued in the future such as lower Tarrifs.
The Sword and Sheild
19-10-2003, 23:16
30 Iowa class? That is far too many battleships relative to your cruisers and destroyers. It would make for a seriously handi-capped and unflexible Navy to have that many BB's compared to only 5 CV's and a handful of cruisers and destroyers
Number seems good, except:
72,000 M3 Bradleys: too much, don't you think?
30 Iowa Class BB: Maintance cost for one is about $180 million.
There's no way one could afford 30 Battleships.
And actually, the Arleigh Burke class is a DDG ;) The Ticonderoga is a CG
Clan Smoke Jaguar
20-10-2003, 01:52
2100xM224 60mm Mortar: $22.47 million
72,000xM3A2 Bradley: $280.8 billion
36,400xBarrett M82A1: $218.4 million
36,400xHK MSG-90A1: $152.88 million
36,400xReinmetall MG3: $265.72 million
3,640xUH-1H Huey: $17.108 billion
36,400xMK-19 Automatic Grenade Luncher: $500.5 million
10,000xM1-A2 Abrams: $43 billion
120xF/A-18E/F Super Hornet: $6 billion
500xF-14D Tomcat: $25 billion
2000xF/A-22 Raptor: $140 billion
50xP-3C Orion: $2.27 billion
100xEA-6B Prowler: $6.8 billion
100xC-17A Globemaster III: $20 billion
100xC-130H Hercules: $3 billion
100xE-767: $45 billion
100xKC-767: $20 billion
100xB-52H Stratofortress: $6.2 billion
100xE-2C Hawkeye: $6.2 billion
100xMH-60: $1-2.5 billion, depending on type
100xB-2A Spirit: $100 billion
50 Arleigh Burke DDG: $47 billion
50 Ticonderoga CG: $60 billion
35xOhio SSBN: $6.475 billion
100xRo-Ro Ship: $26.5 billion (T-AKR 300), or $30.1 billion (T-AKR 287)
The total, if you were to purchase everything on that list, would exceed $1 trillion for the equipment alone. Then there's the issue of spare parts, training, ammunition, and fuel, which would more than double the cost.
30 Iowa class? That is far too many battleships relative to your cruisers and destroyers. It would make for a seriously handi-capped and unflexible Navy to have that many BB's compared to only 5 CV's and a handful of cruisers and destroyers
The Iowa class are used like "superdestroyers" They carry enermous amounts of missiles in the space where the ammo for guns used to be kept. The guns are still on, but are not the primary weapon. We have desgned a sonobouoy that can be shot from the 10 inch guns.
The total, if you were to purchase everything on that list, would exceed $1 trillion for the equipment alone. Then there's the issue of spare parts, training, ammunition, and fuel, which would more than double the cost.
I understand that. I have come to the conclusion that my military is too small for a country of almost 270 Million. I have 2.384 Trillion in the bank, and I can readily afford the equipment. I can also afford the annual costs with my annual surplus of $150 Billion+.
Clan Smoke Jaguar-- I would like to order all of those from you for a total cost of $544.063 Billlion dollars
Clan Smoke Jaguar
21-10-2003, 00:12
Clan Smoke Jaguar-- I would like to order all of those from you for a total cost of $544.063 Billlion dollars
OOC: The M1A2, Ohio, and M3A2 were only listed as examples (I know the price off hand), and are not sold by Clan Smoke Jaguar. Even if I did sell them, you'd be waiting quite some time for them to come. Even the M113 took nearly 4 decades for about 76,000 to be built, with the vast majority in the US. The M3A2 is far more expensive and difficult to produce, and I seriously doubt there is any modern tech nation that can realistically expect to deliver 72,000 in less than half a century.
Though I won't sell those three units, I will add the 1000 F-15C Eagles ($45 billion). However, your calculations were a bit off (about $857 billion for everything I listed), so even without the Ohios, M1s, and M3s, you'll be paying more than $544 billion
IC:
We do not sell Ohio Class SSBNs, M1A2s, or M3A2s, but we have given an indication of approximately how much they would cost to acquire. Everything else, including 1000 F-15Cs, comes to a total of $578.23797 billion. It will take about 1 NS year for everything to arrive.
We are also not sure exactly what you want, as you failed to state it specifically, so will save the following units we're not sure about until last:
MH-60: we are defaulting to the MH-60L. MH-60G Pave Hawk would cost $90 million less. MH-60R Strike Hawks would cost an additional $2 billion (MH-60R is a replacement for the SH-60B and SH-60F. This isn't likely to be what you want)
F-15: we are defaulting to F-15C Eagles. F-15E Strike Eagles will cost an additional $5 billion
Ro-Ro Ships: we are defaulting to T-AKR 300 Bob Hopes (which can carry hundreds of tanks). T-AKR 287 Algols, which have less than half the payload, but 50% greater speed, would cost an additional $3.6 billion
OOC: Kahta, that military is WAY to big for you OR me...
Clan Smoke Jaguar-- I would like to order all of those from you for a total cost of $544.063 Billlion dollars
OOC: The M1A2, Ohio, and M3A2 were only listed as examples (I know the price off hand), and are not sold by Clan Smoke Jaguar. Even if I did sell them, you'd be waiting quite some time for them to come. Even the M113 took nearly 4 decades for about 76,000 to be built, with the vast majority in the US. The M3A2 is far more expensive and difficult to produce, and I seriously doubt there is any modern tech nation that can realistically expect to deliver 72,000 in less than half a century.
Though I won't sell those three units, I will add the 1000 F-15C Eagles ($45 billion). However, your calculations were a bit off (about $857 billion for everything I listed), so even without the Ohios, M1s, and M3s, you'll be paying more than $544 billion
IC:
We do not sell Ohio Class SSBNs, M1A2s, or M3A2s, but we have given an indication of approximately how much they would cost to acquire. Everything else, including 1000 F-15Cs, comes to a total of $578.23797 billion. It will take about 1 NS year for everything to arrive.
We are also not sure exactly what you want, as you failed to state it specifically, so will save the following units we're not sure about until last:
MH-60: we are defaulting to the MH-60L. MH-60G Pave Hawk would cost $90 million less. MH-60R Strike Hawks would cost an additional $2 billion (MH-60R is a replacement for the SH-60B and SH-60F. This isn't likely to be what you want)
F-15: we are defaulting to F-15C Eagles. F-15E Strike Eagles will cost an additional $5 billion
Ro-Ro Ships: we are defaulting to T-AKR 300 Bob Hopes (which can carry hundreds of tanks). T-AKR 287 Algols, which have less than half the payload, but 50% greater speed, would cost an additional $3.6 billion
Yes, I did think my calculations were quite off. I was doing it in excel and probobly did not do it right. Can you please list the items being sold in 1 post? I am sort of confused.
I will order the M1-A2's, M3-A2's, and Ohio Classes somewhere else.
I would like the F-15C's, T-AKR 300 Bob Hopes, and MH-60R as you listed, in addition to the other items listed in the first post.
Total contract value: $600 Billion (I am including a tip)
When you confirm, please include a list of all the items I will be getting.
Thanks,
Minister of Weapons Procurement
Clan Smoke Jaguar
22-10-2003, 06:20
2100xM224 60mm Mortar: $22.47 million
36,400xBarrett M82A1: $218.4 million
36,400xHK MSG-90A1: $152.88 million
36,400xReinmetall MG3: $265.72 million
3,640xUH-1H Huey: $17.108 billion
36,400xMK-19 Automatic Grenade Luncher: $500.5 million
Subtotal: $18.26707 billion
120xF/A-18E/F Super Hornet: $6 billion
1000xF-15C Eagle: $45 billion
500xF-14D Tomcat: $25 billion
2000xF/A-22 Raptor: $140 billion
50xP-3C Orion: $2.27 billion
100xEA-6B Prowler: $6.8 billion
100xC-17A Globemaster III: $20 billion
100xC-130H Hercules: $3 billion
100xE-767: $45 billion
100xKC-767: $20 billion
100xB-52H Stratofortress: $6.2 billion
100xE-2C Hawkeye: $6.2 billion
100xMH-60R: $3 billion
100xB-2A Spirit: $100 billion
Subtotal: $428.47 billion
50 Arleigh Burke DDG: $47 billion
50 Ticonderoga CG: $60 billion
100xT-AKR 300: $26.5 billion
Subtotal: $133.5 billion
Grand Total: $580.23707 billion
$600 billion confirmed
For the extra $20 billion, we will provide some additional spare parts and ammunition.
Malatose
22-10-2003, 06:37
You're going to be another North Korea trying to maintain a Military of that size.
You're going to be another North Korea trying to maintain a Military of that size.
More like Russia, i would be struggling to maintain a Military that size, with research and looking after my counrty.
The miltary of Kahta will be expanded heavily in the coming weeks. I will begin posting what I plan to purchase in a few RL hours.
EDIT:
I now need the following (Modern Tech)
Snip boring list
OOC: Doesn't anyone make their own frigging weapons anymore?
Independent Hitmen
22-10-2003, 10:54
The miltary of Kahta will be expanded heavily in the coming weeks. I will begin posting what I plan to purchase in a few RL hours.
EDIT:
I now need the following (Modern Tech)
Army
It's time for a re-arment of the army.
I need
42,000 M4/M203
2,100 M224 60mm Mortar
72,000 M3 Bradleys
36,400 Benelli Shotguns
36,400 M98A1 Javelins
36,400 Barrett M82A1
36,400 HK MSG-90A1
36,400 Reinmetall MG3
3,640 UH-1 Hueys
36,400 MK-19 Automatic Grenade Lunchers
10,000 M1-A2 Abrams
Air Force
120 F/A-18 Superhornets
1000 F-15's
500 F-14
2,000 F-22
50 P-3
100 EA-6B
100 C-17A
100 C-130
100 E-767
100 KC-767
100 B-52
100 E-2
100 MH-60
100 B-2
500 Tornado
Navy
30 Iowa Class BB
50 Arliegh Burke DD
50 Ticonderoga Class C
5 United States Class CVN
35 Ohio Class SSBN
Also,
100 Ro-Ro ships that can carry 100 tanks each.
Are you sure that you could afford all this? mean 2,000 F-22s will cost a hellava lot!
Ancient and Holy Terra
22-10-2003, 11:07
Vrak....actually, most people don't design their weapons anymore. It seems like that era went out with Klamath...:D
However, we make our own submarines...we're working on several classes at the moment, all of them based on subs from the anime Blue Sub 6.
Fuggolia
22-10-2003, 11:44
Trouble i, with designing your own weapons, is no one has any clue what they are being attacked by.
Zvarinograd
22-10-2003, 12:19
OOC:
You can always keep notepads with the specifications and call them up whenever you need them or post them and remember the link. Then your enemies will have a rough idea what they're going against.
The miltary of Kahta will be expanded heavily in the coming weeks. I will begin posting what I plan to purchase in a few RL hours.
EDIT:
I now need the following (Modern Tech)
Army
It's time for a re-arment of the army.
I need
42,000 M4/M203
2,100 M224 60mm Mortar
72,000 M3 Bradleys
36,400 Benelli Shotguns
36,400 M98A1 Javelins
36,400 Barrett M82A1
36,400 HK MSG-90A1
36,400 Reinmetall MG3
3,640 UH-1 Hueys
36,400 MK-19 Automatic Grenade Lunchers
10,000 M1-A2 Abrams
Air Force
120 F/A-18 Superhornets
1000 F-15's
500 F-14
2,000 F-22
50 P-3
100 EA-6B
100 C-17A
100 C-130
100 E-767
100 KC-767
100 B-52
100 E-2
100 MH-60
100 B-2
500 Tornado
Navy
30 Iowa Class BB
50 Arliegh Burke DD
50 Ticonderoga Class C
5 United States Class CVN
35 Ohio Class SSBN
Also,
100 Ro-Ro ships that can carry 100 tanks each.
Are you sure that you could afford all this? mean 2,000 F-22s will cost a hellava lot!
Seriously!!
Grand Total: $580.23707 billion
$600 billion confirmed
For the extra $20 billion, we will provide some additional spare parts and ammunition.
I had 2.6 Trillion in the bank before this. Now I have 2 Trillion, plus lower surpluses every year.
Vrak....actually, most people don't design their weapons anymore. It seems like that era went out with Klamath...:D
However, we make our own submarines...we're working on several classes at the moment, all of them based on subs from the anime Blue Sub 6.
OOC: Hmmm, I wasn't really thinking necessarily unique stuff. But really, everyone can make a tank and gun - even if you lift the stats from global security. Why would you go and buy these basically mundane items? I did in the very beginning then thought "Wait just a damn minute. It's only a run of the mill tank!"
The only "unique" thing I make are the Titan guns (with Edolia).
Zvarinograd
22-10-2003, 23:37
OOC:
It's easy to develop weaponry from pre-existing concepts, it's hard to develop weaponry from new concepts. New technology, technology no one has even had the slightest idea about except yourself. It all depends on your creativity to think of that technology and logic to bring reason and sense to it.
OOC:
It's easy to develop weaponry from pre-existing concepts, it's hard to develop weaponry from new concepts. New technology, technology no one has even had the slightest idea about except yourself. It all depends on your creativity to think of that technology and logic to bring reason and sense to it.
OOC: Agreed. I'm not a big "weapon design" type of guy.