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Diplomacy and Al Anbar (Invite-Only RP)

Drakonian Imperium
19-10-2003, 03:39
After a full review, of Al Anbar, the Drakonian Imperium, acting with it's authority as member of the United Emirates Leadership Council has expulsed Al Anbar from the United Emirates alliance. The reason stated are as follows: Oppession of Civilian Population
Violating the Rules, Al Anbar by joining agreed to follow, of the United Emirates
Support of Terrorism
Government use of Genocide
Government use of Racism
Government use of SlaveryThe Drakonian Imperium retracts all statements it has made in support of Al Anbar. The Imperial Drakonian Military will now be direct to a United Emirates only invasion of the oppressive regime, using their rights in the Proposed Charter of the United Emirates alliance.

The already, on alert, Imperial Drakonian Military is preparing to move to liberate the oppressed regime. As of current to offensive move has been made, but it is expected to come shortly. A response from the other members of the Leadership Council and United Emirates has not, as of yet, been made. It is expected the Imperium will wait for such a response before acting.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

Other Threads:
Liberation of Al Anbar (OOC) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83990)
For OOC Debate, Complaints, etc and if you want to be invited. All OOC Conversation are to happen, there.

Liberation of Al Anbar (War RP) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84002)
For the War. Fighting, Deployments, etc., happen there.
Galdania
19-10-2003, 03:45
Galdania has long been an enemy of Al Anbar. We have been prepared for months to send Apocalypse Assault Tanks to smash through the gates of their palaces...
19-10-2003, 03:50
We want oil, go liberate/destroy/kill everything in sight, just gie us oil goddamn it!
Galdania
19-10-2003, 03:58
We want oil, go liberate/destroy/kill everything in sight, just gie us oil goddamn it!

Why don't you use the cleanest, safest source of energy on earth: Nuclear Power! Hey, it was good enough for Stalin!
19-10-2003, 04:11
We want oil, go liberate/destroy/kill everything in sight, just gie us oil goddamn it!

Why don't you use the cleanest, safest source of energy on earth: Nuclear Power! Hey, it was good enough for Stalin!
Nuclear powered tanks and cars?

In other news, the NKVD has continued cracking down and communists, and burned material about the (fictious) communist state of galdania, where everyone is supposed to live happily, never revolt, never complain, and even vote for the communists in free elections! . Of course this would never happend, and the NKVD is preventing any spreading of this rot with PP-93 submachineguns.
19-10-2003, 04:13
Of course, all of these allegations are lies.
Rotovia
19-10-2003, 04:42
Of course, all of these allegations are lies.

Of course... :roll:
Dyelli Beybi
19-10-2003, 09:49
As usual we pledge full military support to Al Anbar. In fact we believe we still have a sizeable fleet off their coast.
Zvarinograd
19-10-2003, 10:28
The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd urges the Drakonian Imperium to provide proof to such claims. The world can not be too sure of imperialistic intentions. Whatever the answer may be, our nation would like to remain neutral, however we will be accepting refugees.

OOC:
Nuclear powered tanks and cars?

Tanks maybe, but cars? Too risky.

On a side note, I'm selling seawater uranium extraction technology (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81417) to nations who are responsible with thier uranium use (i.e. little to no tendency to use a nuclear arsenal). The technology provides 16,000 tons of uranium per harvesting platform per annum. Provided you have large bodies of water connected to rivers / oceans. (Obviously.)
Tersanctus
19-10-2003, 13:56
This matter has been brought before the Tersanctan Division of the United Emirates Leadership Council, and thusly, we have reached the same conclusions as Drakonia.

Al Anbar will be treated fairly in these proceedings of course. However we have a responsibilty to the United Emirates in this cause, so far, the majority is leaning toward the liberation of Al Anbar, Tersanctus stands ready.


All hail, the United Emirates!!


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Executor Edmund Dantes
The Dominion of Tersanctus
United Emirates Tersanctan Delegate
on the Leadership Council
The Belmore Family
19-10-2003, 14:31
After a full review, of Al Anbar, the Drakonian Imperium, acting with it's authority as member of the United Emirates Leadership Council has expulsed Al Anbar from the United Emirates alliance. The reason stated are as follows: Oppession of Civilian Population
Violating the Rules, Al Anbar by joining agreed to follow, of the United Emirates
Support of Terrorism
Government use of Genocide
Government use of Racism
Government use of SlaveryThe Drakonian Imperium retracts all statements it has made in support of Al Anbar. The Imperial Drakonian Military will now be direct to a United Emirates only invasion of the oppressive regime, using their rights in the Proposed Charter of the United Emirates alliance.

The already, on alert, Imperial Drakonian Military is preparing to move to liberate the oppressed regime. As of current to offensive move has been made, but it is expected to come shortly. A response from the other members of the Leadership Council and United Emirates has not, as of yet, been made. It is expected the Imperium will wait for such a response before acting.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

When you say liberate, do you mean that you will be taking over his nation? If so we will help you on the condition we get a part of his nation called Belmorian Al Anbar.(EG East/west Germany)
19-10-2003, 15:32
I'd like to let the UE know that they can use Iranian airspace and waters to attack Al-Anbar, and we will support the UE with a ground invasion if they would like one.
Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 01:16
As stated the Drakonian Imperium will be leading a coalition of nations, under the banner of the United Emirates alliance, to liberate those oppressed under the rule of the current government of Al Anbar, which is led by the heinious murderer Saddam Hussien. Rule of the nation will be taken up first by a United Emirates Interim Government and then Democraticly turned over to the populace of Al Anbar.

The Drakonian Imperium is willing to turn over the region known as Belmorian Al Anbar to the government of The Belmore Family, as requested. We are also happy to welcome the Belmorian Military into this operation of liberation of Al Anbar.

As to concerns of Imperialistic intents, yes, this is an imperialistic advance and Al Anbar may be democraticly brought into the fold of the Drakonian Imperium, although that will be up to the people of Al Anbar after the Interim Government has served it's purpose. The advance is also to counteract the violations of the United Emirate alliance made by the current Al Anbar government.

To address the concerns of Zvarinograd, the United Emirates Leadership Council has deemed that the crimes of the criminal ruler of Al Anbar are well known. His use of Biological Weapons on his own people and the peoples of Iran are simple fact enough, but there is also proof that his nation harbors terrorist organizations, openly opresses the civil rights and freedom of women, and tortures and kills those, of it's own people, who critized it. We will not stand idly by, with this knowledge, and let nothing be done to cure these wounds on the people of Al Anbar.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 01:16
I'd like to let the UE know that they can use Iranian airspace and waters to attack Al-Anbar, and we will support the UE with a ground invasion if they would like one.

Top Secret Communiqué

TO: Governments of Eye Ran
FROM: Imperial Drakonian Armed Forces

We would like to take your nation up on it's offer of staging a ground invasion from your territory. We will likely be staging a major offensive to bring the corrupt Al Anbar government down, as soon as our forces arrive in the region.

We thank you for your support in this matter and hope that this conflict will be swiftly over with a minimum loss of live on all sides.

General Patrick Santiago
Combined Liberation Forces
Enroute to Indian Ocean
New Genoa
20-10-2003, 01:18
New Genoa wishes to see proof of these accusations and urges both sides to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.
imported_Ell
20-10-2003, 01:21
The government of Ell believes the UAE is doing the right and just thing. Because of our current cease-fire with Al-Anbar, we are unable to participate, but we are willing to provide training to your troops as we have had experience in Al-Anbar beforehand. We also ask that the conditions attached to the cease-fire signed with Saddam remain in place under the new governemt.

Bill English
President of Ell
Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 01:21
New Genoa wishes to see proof of these accusations and urges both sides to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.

The Drakonian Imperium will be glad to provide, New Genoa, and the international community with the proof it asks for. The documents will be prepared and published before the territory of Al Anbar is violated.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 01:21
OOC: Excuse me, first of all, Eye Ran is ignored, so any attack from Eye Ran territory will be ignored.

IC:

The Government of Al Anbar has never oppressed the women of Al Anbar. They have the same rights as men do. They are not forced to wear anything or do anything they do not wish to. We are more than willing to allow inspectors in to Al Anbar to confirm this.

Al Anbar also does not support terrorist organization, never have, and never will.

Let is also be noted that during the "Iran-Iraq War", that Iran had used chemical weapons too.
Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 01:23
The Drakonian Imperium confirms it's launch of two fleets, transporting the soldiers, which will liberated the oppressed peoples of Al Anbar.

Task Force Liberation, Commanded by Admiral Patrick Halvorsen

IDS Inexorable, Battleship (Flagship)
IDS Retribution, Heavy Cruiser
IDS Blood Oath, Destroyer
IDS Polearm, Destroyer
IDS Huntress, Destroyer
IDS Interdictor, Frigate
IDS Razor, Frigate
IDS Watchguard, Frigate
IDS Loyal, Frigate
IDS Waverunner, Frigate

Task Force Punishment, Commanded by Commodore Alexis Stone

IDS Wyvern, Carrier (Flagship)
IDS Insurmountable, Heavy Cruiser
IDS Powerful, Cruiser
IDS Lance, Destroyer
IDS Pike, Destroyer
IDS Kestrel, Destroyer
IDS Swordarm, Frigate
IDS Sea Raven, Frigate
IDS Dagger, Frigate
IDS True Heart, Frigate
IDS Warrior, Frigate

Combined Liberation Forces, Commanded by General Patrick Santiago

2nd Expeditionary Legion

50,000 Troops (45,000 Soldiers, 2,500 Commandos, and 2,500 Other Specialized Soldiers)

2,000 Light Tanks
1,500 Armored Personnel Carriers
5,000 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
400 Support Vehicles
100 Attack Helicopters
250 Combat Assault Transport Helicopters

10th Armored Legion

100,000 Troops (90,000 Soldiers, 5,000 Commandos, and 5,000 Other Specialized Soldiers)

500 Mammoth Tanks
2,500 Heavy Tanks
5,000 Medium Tanks
2,500 Light Tanks
3,000 Specialized Armor Units
1,000 Armored Personnel Carriers
2,500 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
400 Mobile Artillery Vehicles
100 Mobile Missile Launch Vehicles
5,000 Support Vehicles
500 Attack Helicopters
250 Combat Assault Transport Helicopters
100 Heavy Lift Transport Helicopters

Imperial Drakonian Military Command
located in Griffon Military Base near Caesarea
city of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 01:33
OOC: Excuse me, first of all, Eye Ran is ignored
For what reason, exactly?
Dra-pol
20-10-2003, 01:37
(not an ic announcement as such, but a statement of fact for the benefit of players rather than nations..)

Drapoel Banat (secret police/intelligence agency/Director's body-guards) agents are currently attempting -in small numbers- to enter Al Anbar and to make contact with the authorities there.
Still fighting a desperate war against a coalition of Christian invaders, Dra-pol is keen to make what near-like-minded contacts it can. Perhaps key Al Anbarian figures would be hunted less in embattled 'North Korea' than embattled 'Iraq'..and vice-versa.
Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 01:45
The following has been released to catalogue the crimes of Al Anbar against it's population. Further statements will be released by the Drakonian Diplomatic Corps. on the crimes of Al Anbar at a later time.

BBC News Profile - Saddam Hussein (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1100529.stm)

"on occasions, have tortured and perhaps even killed opponents of the regime."

"Saddam Hussein was not offended. Rather, he seemed surprised by the naivete of the question. 'Of course,' he replied. 'What do you expect if they oppose the regime?'"

"But his tactic of imposing his authority by terror has gone far beyond the occasional arrest and execution of opponents. In attempts to suppress the Kurds, for example, he has systematically used chemical weapons. And in putting down a rebellion of Shi'ia in the south he has razed towns to the ground and drained marshland."

Nerve Gas used in Northern Iraq on Kurds (http://www.phrusa.org/research/chemical_weapons/chemiraqgas2.html)

"Eyewitnesses have said that Iraqi warplanes dropped three clusters each of four bombs on the village of Birjinni on August 25, 1988. Observers recall seeing a plume of black, then yellowish smoke, followed by a not-unpleasant odor similar to fertilizer, and also a smell like rotten garlic. Shortly afterwards, villagers began to have trouble breathing, their eyes watered, their skin blistered, and many vomited--some of whom died. All of these symptoms are consistent with a poison gas attack."

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
Omz222
20-10-2003, 01:56
---Secured Transmission---

To: Drakonian Imperium
From: Omzian People's Liberation Air Force

We have long hated Al Anbar's government, and see it as a threat to the world. If needed, we could provide air strike support, by using long-range bomber aircraft.

If interested, we could also secretly enact a series of psylogical warfare, and sneak up a few submarines and strike Al Anabr targets.

---End---
20-10-2003, 02:05
Ministry of Information

The Ministry of Information has analyzed all of the data that supposedly claims that the government of Al Anbar is "bad", and have come to the conclusion that all of this information are half truths and blatant lies. Much of the information is the same as used when the United States attempted to invade Iraq a second time to only feel the wrath of the Iraqi people.

Let this also be a lesson to all aggressors -- we have defeated a superpower like the United States once and we will not hesitate to do it again. The Iraqi people will not stand by idly while their brothers and sisters die for their country.
20-10-2003, 02:09
Mass Rallies in Al Anbar

Throughout Al Anbar, mass rallies were held by the people in support of Saddam Hussein and the position of Al Anbar. Saddam Hussein, last October, was elected with 100% of the vote and these rallies just show the spirit of the people and their determination to stand by him.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1845000/images/_1848524_demonstration_ap300.jpg

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2002/08/20/irqiembssa.jpg

http://ca.yimg.com/i/cf/reuters/20021015/i/2551152662.jpg

http://www.metimes.com/2K2/issue2002-42/issue_metpix/referendum_displays_baath.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img/img006/iraq_013.jpg

http://www.mediareviewnet.com/kids%20love%20saddam.jpg
The Trojan Empire
20-10-2003, 02:31
Troy will support the allies if it is agreed that a portion of Iraq's oil fields will be handed over to Trojan oil companies. The same offer has been wired to Al Anbar.

Ambassador Peleus
-The Trojan Empire-
20-10-2003, 02:33
Troy will support the allies if it is agreed that a portion of Iraq's oil fields will be handed over to Trojan oil companies. The same offer has been wired to Al Anbar.

Ambassador Peleus
-The Trojan Empire-

Secret Telegram to TTE

The Republic of Al Anbar would be willing to offer approximately 15% of our oil production to TTE at significantly lower costs than the market price. We currently output 5,000,000 barrels of oil per day. 15% would be 750,000 barrels of oil.
20-10-2003, 02:34
OOC: Excuse me, first of all, Eye Ran is ignored
For what reason, exactly?



Meanwhile, Iranian oil companies have begun tapping into Iraqi oil fields across the border.
Dyelli Beybi
20-10-2003, 02:43
*To the Government of Al Anbar, with no thought given to encoding*
Our Fleet is ready to assume patrols of Al Anbar territorial waters should it be required.
The Trojan Empire
20-10-2003, 02:53
Troy will support the allies if it is agreed that a portion of Iraq's oil fields will be handed over to Trojan oil companies. The same offer has been wired to Al Anbar.

Ambassador Peleus
-The Trojan Empire-

Secret Telegram to TTE

The Republic of Al Anbar would be willing to offer approximately 15% of our oil production to TTE at significantly lower costs than the market price. We currently output 5,000,000 barrels of oil per day. 15% would be 750,000 barrels of oil.Encrypted Transmission: to Al Anbar
From: King Priam of Troy

Very well, dear Saddam. Troy is willing to offer three regiments of the Royal Trojan Army (3000 men) and several hundred Zeus I APC's and several hundred M12 Warthog LRV's to assist in the defense of Al Anbar. We request that thou stalls thy enemy as long as thou can, while Trojan military units prepare to travel to Syria. More aid will be sent when research of our new weapons is completed. Currently we are developing AT-AT Walkers and our esteemed Trojan Class battleship. Both will be available in the upcoming months.

Glory to aegis-bearing Zeus!
Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar, comrade.

--End Transmission--

****

Secret:
Meanwhile, three entire regiments of Royal Trojan Army Units are being prepared to land at the coasts of Syria and proceed to the inner portions of Al Anbar. Both naval and dropship transports will deliver APC's, LRV's, and troops.
Syskeyia
20-10-2003, 03:05
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1845000/images/_1848524_demonstration_ap300.jpg
"God bless Knootoss! Um, I am wearing a Knootian uniform, right?

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2002/08/20/irqiembssa.jpg
"If I didn't have a gun to my head, I'd be making this gesutre with my other hand."

http://ca.yimg.com/i/cf/reuters/20021015/i/2551152662.jpg
"Idiots! Saddam is the other way! I shall now bonk you on the head in the traditional Al-Anbarrian manner!"

http://www.metimes.com/2K2/issue2002-42/issue_metpix/referendum_displays_baath.jpg
"OK, Saddam's coming up adhead in the parade ground... now, given that this flag is alo a poisont dart grenade, and the wind, if I can just get the right trajectory..."

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img/img006/iraq_013.jpg
Z"I am going to backflip right throgh that picture back there, creating a gaint hole in it."

http://www.mediareviewnet.com/kids%20love%20saddam.jpg
...moments before the two kids throw their hand grenades backwards into Saddam's picture...

OOC: I'm not sure whether I'm going to take part in this, as I might get involved in another war soon...

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
Rotovia
20-10-2003, 05:19
OOC: I'll support Al Anbar because I haven't role-played a good war in ages, and this whole thing is just like the Gulf War.
Crownguard
20-10-2003, 05:31
**Several hours after the announcement...**


"My Lord High Guardian, we have urgent news!"

"Well? Im slightly busy with the war with that Polynesian place...."

"Apparently there has been some form of invasion in a country called Al Anbar, led by Saddam Hussein"

"Why would I care?"

"The country could be in our debt?"

"Well blast it, I cant fight two wars at once. Authorize Emergency Powers Act 2-1 and put our Royal Stormtroopers on standby. They should be well trained after 3 years of experience. It may do them some good...."

"Yes my liege"


** Tercero Xavier Delryn, Royal Ambassador sends a communique to Al Anbar AND the alliance **

While the nation of Crownguard is imperialist and atheist, we are also quite ready to offer our elite mercenary forces if you should desire them. EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN, male or female, has been trained in military sciences for at least a year, and our soldiers have gone through another 2 years of boot camp, followed by several exercises and police actions. To be blunt, we are certainly militaristic, but very good at what we do. If you are willing to make a monetary offer, or else an extremely favorable market for Crownguardian goods, we would consider supporting you. We care very little who wins at this point, but we will help the one who is willing to bid the most. To be sure, these soldiers can and will make a difference in this war. We will not perform any military atrocities however, our soldiers pride themselves on honor above all, and every single one is loyal to Crownguard first and foremost.
20-10-2003, 05:35
Secret Telegram to Crownguard

The Republic of Al Anbar would be willing to offer approximately 15% of our oil production to TTE at significantly lower costs than the market price. We currently output 5,000,000 barrels of oil per day. 15% would be 750,000 barrels of oil.

Signed,

Minister of Oil.
Crownguard
20-10-2003, 05:39
*Tercero Xavier Delryn writes back*

(ooc: I think you meant Crownguard not TTE...but hey its ok). Oil is not worth our while, Lord Minister, we require access to selling our products in your country, to be blunt, we would have some measure of control over the economy...your economy.

In return, we would help develop your nation economically into a power to be recognized. I tell you this as a possible ally, not as a threatening offer. If you can offer something not related to energy (since we use nuclear and hydrogen power, being such a large nation..oil would be far too polluting), we would be interested as well. We await your response, as our Royal Stormtroopers are on standby.

Signed,

Tercero Xavier Delryn
3rd in Command
Military and Foreign Affairs
Reploid Productions
20-10-2003, 07:03
*Open broadcast to all involved*

The Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions has pledged humanitarian aid to the civilians of Al Anbar and any wounded or injured that will inevitably result from this conflict. We have several Hamakaze 220 cargo aircraft loaded with food, medicines, and other such necessities. We assure all involved that there are no weapons or anything that could be used to make weapons in the cargo. If anyone has doubts, they are welcome to send inspectors to verify our cargo before we commence drop operations.

We would like to request air clearance in the nations involved in this fiasco so that we can safely bring this aid to the people. The jets possess inbound weapons countermeasures, but no actual weapons. We do not ask to also send fighters to escort the planes, though if anyone involved wishes to have their own aerial forces escort them through your airspace, it is understood and welcome.

Please respond.

http://rpstudios.ian-justman.com/junk/CGgoods/tsume5.JPG
~Tsume Dragonis
~Secretary of Foreign Affairs
~Immortal Shogunate of Reploid Productions
20-10-2003, 07:20
Al Anbar does not have any oil!

They steal from us!

Sultan of Ahmadpur
20-10-2003, 07:24
Al Anbar does not have any oil!

They steal from us!

Sultan of Ahmadpur

OOC: Boy, so many newbies posing as Arabs and liars.
20-10-2003, 07:25
Al Anbar does not have any oil!

They steal from us!

Sultan of Ahmadpur

OOC: Boy, so many newbies posing as Arabs and liars.


OOC: So many people pose as oil kings.

Ah well.
Tersanctus
20-10-2003, 07:26
Tersanctus Forces are ready and mobilized.


The 1st through Tenth fleets are being prepared for deployments.

Typical battlegroup formation:

3 Type 45 Destroyers
3 Jason Roberts Class Destroyers
4 Type 22 Frigates
4 Type 24 Frigates
10 Amphibious Assault Ships
2 Aircraft Carriers

Transporting upon the AAS's are over 300,000 Templar Heavy Assault Warriors. Plus one division of the AMD (Armored Marine Division) totaling 100,000.


http://www.gamespy.com/avatars/av/MR/mr209.gif

Clint "outta my cold dead hand" Eastwood
Secretary of Defense
========================================


Response to Rep Prod:

Your offer is both highly Humanitarian and Noble in nature. Tersanctus is willing to send inspectors to assist in your humanitarian aid. True we must inspect it as a formality, but we will also assure with your agents present, that the Medical and food supplies reaches the citezenry of Al-Anabar.

http://www.gamespy.com/avatars/av/MR/mr211.gif

Patrick Stewart
Secretary on Foreign Relations
20-10-2003, 07:26
*Tercero Xavier Delryn writes back*

(ooc: I think you meant Crownguard not TTE...but hey its ok). Oil is not worth our while, Lord Minister, we require access to selling our products in your country, to be blunt, we would have some measure of control over the economy...your economy.

In return, we would help develop your nation economically into a power to be recognized. I tell you this as a possible ally, not as a threatening offer. If you can offer something not related to energy (since we use nuclear and hydrogen power, being such a large nation..oil would be far too polluting), we would be interested as well. We await your response, as our Royal Stormtroopers are on standby.

Signed,

Tercero Xavier Delryn
3rd in Command
Military and Foreign Affairs

Our uranium industries (all government owned) are willing to lease a portion of our uranium mining operations to your country.
20-10-2003, 07:29
Our uranium industries (all government owned) are willing to lease a portion of our uranium mining operations to your country.

Uranium industries, huh?
Tersanctus
20-10-2003, 07:37
OOC:Please stop thread hijacking....... 8)
Vrak
20-10-2003, 08:23
To: The Drakonian Imperium Diplomats
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: "Liberation"

By what right do you have to liberate the people of Al Anbar? We can understand if you want to expel a member from your organization since we believe that to be a matter for said organization to exercise. But we have always wondered about causes of "liberation".

Perhaps a listing of what Al Anbar has done would help to clarify the issue.
20-10-2003, 09:11
OOC: Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
The Trojan Empire
20-10-2003, 11:46
Transmission: to Al Anbar
From: Colonel Dolon

Trojan Royal Army Units have reached Syria, along with a light naval escort of two AA frigates and two destroyers. We shall be marching deeper into your lands, Saddam, but first we need orders of where our noble warriors need to be.

--End Transmission--

***

"Yeehaw! This Priam Dropship #19 ready to land, carrying Colonel Dolon!" exclaimed the enthusiastic pilot as he lowered the dropship closer to the ground. Colonel Dolon, followed by twenty other men, hopped out, and joined the rest of his comrades who had already landed.

"Clear that area for a new LZ!"

"Move those APC's now!"

"I want four Warthogs groups moving east for recon now!"

These 3000 Trojan warriors were as excited as they were scared. This was Troy's first military operation since the notorious civil war and they were determind not to lose this time. They marched on, brave warriors of Troy.
Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 15:15
Top Secret Communiqués

TO: Governments of Omz222
FROM: Imperial Drakonian Armed Forces

We would be more than glad to have your support in the coming conflict. Anything you can offer to the cause would be more than welcome. This corrupt despot, must be removed from power. Those suffering under his rule deserve, that much.

TO: Governments of Vrak
FROM: Imperial Drakonian Armed Forces

As Al Anbar should well know, the Proposed Charter of the United Emirates stipulates that members expelled from the alliance, may be subject to military actions, if the reason for the expulsion is serious. The crimes Al Anbar has commited against humanity are as such that they cannot be ignored. Those who's blood has been shed in Saddam Hussein's torchure chambers deserve a better government. A free government. We will give them one.
Crownguard
20-10-2003, 15:22
*The Tercero recieves the message, relaying it to the troops. General Bashkiir recieves the memo*


"Uranium? Perfect...auhorize the mobilization of our troops, we're back in business, boys."


**Whereupon, the general authorizes the mobilization of 2 million Royal Stormtroopers, along with accompanying 52 Wings of the CAF Red Wings. The standby status of several MLRS (multiple Launch Rocket System) warheads are prepared in their respective silo bays. They had a war to win. (CAF=Crownguardian Air Force)**

"Never mess with a nation dedicated to expansion and war, especially when uranium is offered. "

Report:
*All citizens are ordered to report their ID card numbers for possible evactuation to the Sub-Urd Vaults in case of possible reprisal. You have been warned*
Tersanctus
20-10-2003, 17:40
"Hmm, Edmund we got a couple of more nations involved, look at this report."

http://www.gamespy.com/avatars/av/FR/fr265.gif

Denise Richards
Acumen Director; Tersanctus Intelligence Department

"Jeesh, You're right, I didnt want this to turn into swamp with numbers thing. But we have no choice. Send in Five more Divisions of the AMD. Half a Million more troops should send a message. The peoples of Al Anbar, shall not suffer another day."

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Executor Edmund Dantes
The Dominion of Tersanctus
Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 19:49
The following has been released to catalogue the Terrorist Activities of Al Anbar. Further statements will be released by the Drakonian Diplomatic Corps. on the crimes of Al Anbar at a later time.

Official Al Anbar History (March 20 - October 15, 2003) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81682)

"Four American soldiers were killed in an attack by a suicide bomber, who was later identified as an Iraqi army officer, near the city of Najaf in central Iraq."

"The Palestinian Islamic Jihad group said volunteer Mujahideens arrived in Baghdad to fight alongside Iraqis against US troops."

Iraqi Satellite Television - Palestinian Liberation Authority; Suicide Blast in Settlement (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80294)

"Thirty four Zionists have died, One Palestinian martyred herself, and sixty five Zionists have been wounded, many near death."

"The Republic of Al Anbar congradulates the Palestinian Liberation Authority on their attack on the illegal Zionist settlement inside Palestine."

"The latest reports confirm the carnage wrought by the agents of Al Anbar who today killed or injured scores civilians, mostly Christian and Muslim Arabs."

"It is reported that at least 11 civilians were murdered and more than 43 others have suffered serious to moderate injuries at the Israel Café where a young woman, apparently in the employ of the Al Anbar government, killed herself in a suicide bombing. This was the first such attack in the many years since the Great Settling. The record of the dead includes several children. It is also reported that Abdul al Hak, the nephew of the Mufti of Jerusalem, may have been injured in the incident and that his family was also present."

Terrorism Schools (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78691)

"The Republic of Al Anbar would like to send 1,000 students to the Advancement of Belem Culture for training."

"The terrorism that is basically taught is how to make a country collapse by making it impossible for people to go anyplace without being gripped with fear."

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 20:47
The following has been released to catalogue the Terrorist Activities of Al Anbar. Further statements will be released by the Drakonian Diplomatic Corps. on the crimes of Al Anbar at a later time.

Official Al Anbar History (March 20 - October 15, 2003) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81682)

"Four American soldiers were killed in an attack by a suicide bomber, who was later identified as an Iraqi army officer, near the city of Najaf in central Iraq."

"The Palestinian Islamic Jihad group said volunteer Mujahideens arrived in Baghdad to fight alongside Iraqis against US troops."

Iraqi Satellite Television - Palestinian Liberation Authority; Suicide Blast in Settlement (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80294)

"Thirty four Zionists have died, One Palestinian martyred herself, and sixty five Zionists have been wounded, many near death."

"The Republic of Al Anbar congradulates the Palestinian Liberation Authority on their attack on the illegal Zionist settlement inside Palestine."

"The latest reports confirm the carnage wrought by the agents of Al Anbar who today killed or injured scores civilians, mostly Christian and Muslim Arabs."

"It is reported that at least 11 civilians were murdered and more than 43 others have suffered serious to moderate injuries at the Israel Café where a young woman, apparently in the employ of the Al Anbar government, killed herself in a suicide bombing. This was the first such attack in the many years since the Great Settling. The record of the dead includes several children. It is also reported that Abdul al Hak, the nephew of the Mufti of Jerusalem, may have been injured in the incident and that his family was also present."

Terrorism Schools (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78691)

"The Republic of Al Anbar would like to send 1,000 students to the Advancement of Belem Culture for training."

"The terrorism that is basically taught is how to make a country collapse by making it impossible for people to go anyplace without being gripped with fear."

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

Al Anbar would like to officially answer this propaganda:

1) Palestinian Islamic Jihad, for one, is not a terrorist organization. It has been fighting for a Palestinian state. Secondly, suicide bombings are not a terrorist action, especially when the suicide bomber was an army soldier and those he killed were the enemy soldiers.

2) Yes, and? The Satellite Channel reported what happened, nothing more. The women was not an employee of the Republic of Al Anbar. That is a lie and by the Zionist entity.

3) The 1,000 students were sent to learn about Belem's culture. Nothing more.
20-10-2003, 21:28
Al Anbar you punk I'm still waiting for your reason why you ignore me. And no, you can't say because I'm bigger, meaner, better equipped, and on your border as a reason.
Drakonian Imperium
20-10-2003, 21:28
The Drakonian Imperium continues it's build of military force for the liberation of the oppressed peoples of Al Anbar. Current three more legions of Drakonian troops have been activate and prepared to depart for the region, should they be deemed necessary. They will be escorted by another Naval Task Force which is also being prepared.

Combined Liberation Forces, Commanded by General Patrick Santiago

1st Airborne Legion

50,000 Troops (40,000 Soldiers, 5,000 Commandos, and 5,000 Other Specialized Soldiers)

1,000 Attack Helicopters
2,000 Combat Assault Transport Helicopters
1,500 Heavy Lift Transport Helicopters
500 Medium Tanks
1,000 Light Tanks
250 Specialized Tanks
750 Armored Personnel Carriers
1,000 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
750 Support Vehicles


9th Armored Legion

100,000 Troops (90,000 Soldiers, 5,000 Commandos, and 5,000 Other Specialized Soldiers)

500 Mammoth Tanks
2,500 Heavy Tanks
5,000 Medium Tanks
2,500 Light Tanks
3,000 Specialized Armor Units
1,000 Armored Personnel Carriers
2,500 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
400 Mobile Artillery Vehicles
100 Mobile Missile Launch Vehicles
5,000 Support Vehicles
500 Attack Helicopters
250 Combat Assault Transport Helicopters
100 Heavy Lift Transport Helicopters

4th Infantry Legion

150,000 Troops (130,000 Soldiers, 10,000 Commandos, and 10,000 Other Specialized Soldiers)

1,000 Heavy Tanks
2,000 Medium Tanks
4,000 Light Tanks
1,000 Specialized Armor Units
5,000 Armored Personnel Carriers
4,200 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
500 Mobile Artillery Vehicles
10,000 Support Vehicles
500 Attack Helicopters
1,500 Combat Assault Transport Helicopters
600 Heavy Lift Transport Helicopters
Imperial Drakonian Military Command
located in Griffon Military Base near Caesarea
city of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
The Trojan Empire
20-10-2003, 23:52
OOC: Methinks you have too many helicopters. Seriously, two or three thousand would be legitimate for total helicopters. And eighteen thousand tanks would be very difficult to transport.
Dyelli Beybi
21-10-2003, 00:04
Tersanctus Forces are ready and mobilized.


The 1st through Tenth fleets are being prepared for deployments.

Typical battlegroup formation:

3 Type 45 Destroyers
3 Jason Roberts Class Destroyers
4 Type 22 Frigates
4 Type 24 Frigates
10 Amphibious Assault Ships
2 Aircraft Carriers

Transporting upon the AAS's are over 300,000 Templar Heavy Assault Warriors. Plus one division of the AMD (Armored Marine Division) totaling 100,000.

Secretary on Foreign Relations

Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Diplomatic Blunders
This warmongering will not be tolerated. You may consider this a declaration of War. What is more, the continued agression of the Drakonian Imperium against the rightful Government of Al Anbar likewise will not be tolerated. They may also consider this a declaration of war.

Brooadcast from the HIMTRODBWKGS Victory to the rest of the fleet at anchor off the coast of Al Anbar.

All ASW Frigates form defensive perimeter around fleet. Individual Capitol Post Captains onboard Battle Carriers should organise the dropping of sonar bouys around the vicinity of the Armada. All Half-Post Captains of Skuas leave systems deactivated unless specified. AA Vessels please ensure all systems are operational and IFF systems are switched on. We don't want any mistakes like last time. MiG pilots to be kept in a state of 2 minute readiness, Sukhoi pilots should be in a state of 10 minute readiness.

Other than that may all crew members use the toilet facilities provided. Remember PK16 launchers are for chaff, not muselli bar wrappers. Also please do not smoke in the magazine room. People have been doing it, you know who you are, the penalty for getting caught is 20 lashes.

Grand Admiral Hinoalos.
Omz222
21-10-2003, 00:12
Omz222
21-10-2003, 00:13
We reject that we have showed military support for this "liberation". Perhaps the Drakonian Imperium needs to revise its list. We will be listed as nertual in a sense of military, but we pledge our moral support.

However, since we own Baharin since 25 years ago, we will allow overflights over Baharin province.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

==============================

---Secured Transmission---

To: Drakonian Imperium
From: Omzian PLF Air Force

We are just asking one favor: remove our name from the official list for... Security issues. We are sorry that we haven't stated this before.

Thank you.

---End---
The Trojan Empire
21-10-2003, 00:16
OOC: Has anyone noticed my forces yet? I'm sure Al Anbar would appreciate them, since I'm helping him out.

IC:
Transmission: to Al Anbar
From: King Priam of Troy

Three-thousand Trojan Royal Army Units have confirmed their arrival at the coast of Syria. We request permission, and orders, of where our noble warriors are to move themselves to.

Here is a final list of forces deployed to Al Anbar:

1.) 3000 Trojan Royal Army Units (infantry carries MA5B assault rifle, FN-57 pistol, and two M9 fragmentation grenades; support carries M90 shotgun, FN-57 pistol; artillery carries M19 SSM rcoket launcher, FN-57 pistol, two M9 fragmentation grenades)

2.) 150 Zeus I APC's

3.) 400 M12 Warthog LRV's

Further military support will be sent when possible.

Glory to aegis-bearing Zeus.

--End Transmission--
21-10-2003, 00:35
MEESAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIORITY Z
To Coalition forces
From Red Tide
We are willing to support you in this war under 1 condition. You see we have had you could say... "interests" in the Middle East(OOC: Thats where this country is... right?). And due to these "interests" We would like too set up military bases during and after the war.
END MESSAGE
Omz222
21-10-2003, 00:36
MEESAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIORITY Z
To Coalition forces
From Red Tide
We are willing to support you in this war under 1 condition. You see we have had you could say... "interests" in the Middle East(OOC: Thats where this country is... right?). And due to these "interests" We would like too set up military bases during and after the war.
END MESSAGE

We are suspecious of your "interests".

Please explain what you are trying to do here.
Dyelli Beybi
21-10-2003, 01:42
Following in the wake of other landings, Dyelli Beybian units have landed in Syria...

13th Armour Division - 20,200 personnel
2250 T-90 Main Battle Tanks
900 AAV-1 Light Combat Vehicles
900 Crotale NG Anti-Aircraft Vehicles
450 T-10M Heavy Tanks
40 Jeeps
1 NFEV-1 Armoured Limousine
30 Armour Recovery Vehicles
15 Tank Transporters
90 Repair Vans

5th Infantry Division - 26,190 personnel
1,440 ASCOD IFVs
135 T-90 Main Battle Tanks
52 AAV-1 Light Combat Vehicles
52 Crotale NG Anti-Aircraft Vehicles
27 T-10M Heavy Tanks
70 G6 155mm Self-Propelled Howitzers
112 Assorted Trucks and Repair Vans
18 Bridge Layers
18 Armour Recovery Vehicles
9 Tank Transporters
160 Jeeps
4 NFEV-1 Armoured Limousines
Troops are armed with a selection of AKs, usually the AK-74. Section weapons are Mortars, Stinger Missile Launchers, Mistral Air Defence Missile Launchers, Kornet E Anti-Armour Missile Launchers, M19 Heavy Machine Guns.

4rth Airborne Division - 32,400 personnel
70 M777 155mm Ultra lightweight Field Howitzers
112 Assorted Trucks and Repair Vans
160 Jeeps
4 NFEV-1 Armoured Limousines
Troops are armed with a selection of AKs, usually the AK-74. Section weapons are Mortars, Stinger Missile Launchers, Mistral Air Defence Missile Launchers, Kornet E Anti-Armour Missile Launchers, M19 Heavy Machine Guns.

Logistical Divisions 4,5 and 6 - 112,500 personnel combined
10,818 Trucks
3,606 Fork Lifts
1,250 Jeeps
5 NFEV-1 Armoured Limousines

Commander in Chief: General O'Booze

*Message to Alliance Commanders - delivered personally*
(OOC) I'm calling us the Alliance as you're the Coallition...

It seems the enemy is deploying overwhelming force on land, we feel we will be unable to deploy forces on land able to meet this threat. However we feel at this stage we have naval supremacy and as such halt the ablity to halt any landing attempts or at the very least disrupt supply lines.
The Trojan Empire
21-10-2003, 02:15
Transmission: to General O'Booze
From: Colonel Dolon

Salutations, General. We believe if we mine the beaches of Syria and position numerous "packs" of heavy howitzers near the coastline and into the interior, we may be able to effectively shell the enemy.

Glory to aegis-bearing Zeus.

--End Transmission--
21-10-2003, 02:35
MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIORITY I
From Red Tide
To OMZ222
Our interests is securing a reliable military presence within the Middle East... As well as free these poor oppressed people thus increasing our international reputation. We highly suggest that you let us shell the coast as our ships with thier computerized aiming and 17 inch guns would devestate them from a distance.
END MESSAGE

OOC:of course these arnt realy my interests... If you let me enter the war you will find out what my interests are.
The Trojan Empire
21-10-2003, 02:38
We know the interests of the scum of Red Tide. Invasion for profits of oil. At least Troy agreed to assist Al Anbar before receiving our booty.

Ambassador Peleus
-The Trojan Empire-

OOC: We were leaning towards their side anyway, too.
Omz222
21-10-2003, 02:44
MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIORITY I
From Red Tide
To OMZ222
Our interests is securing a reliable military presence within the Middle East... As well as free these poor oppressed people thus increasing our international reputation. We highly suggest that you let us shell the coast as our ships with thier computerized aiming and 17 inch guns would devestate them from a distance.
END MESSAGE
Although we are not fond of Al Anbar, we find your real puprose making us sick.

"Freeing poor, opressed people"... Then why will you continue to oppress them with your military base there?

Foreign Affairs Ministry
21-10-2003, 02:47
MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIOORITY M
To OMZ222
From Red Tide
To provide a reliable military prescense of course
Omz222
21-10-2003, 02:52
MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIOORITY M
To OMZ222
From Red Tide
To provide a reliable military prescense of course

We will continue to observe.
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 03:28
**Official Response to the leaders of the Coalition**

We of the Crownguardian Imperial Forces have taken Al Anbar under our wing. While yes indeed we are mercenary forces in this matter, we are NOT barbarians, as evidenced below. We will employ solely honorable methods of war concurrent with standards decent to human morality. No inhumane treatment of prisoners of war, no NBC weapons, no use of civilians in this affair. We ask you guarantee the same outcomes in this affair, as we would hate to see this degenerate into something ugly and dishonorable. In addition, we wish to meet with a representative of your Coalition as to possible diplomatic talks. We will not threaten the integrity of the nation of Al Anbar, so long as we recieve our just recompense. In the future, we ask you do not consider this as a possible threat for war later, a very unprofitable war for you it will be. This is mere business to us, with a slight tinge of humanitarian concern.

Our units are in position, and lay in wait for your forces. May your god protect you, for you shall need it from Our wrath.

I have the honor to remain respectfully yours,
General Rasheed Bashkiir
Crownguardian Royal Stormtroopers

(OOC:Yes, we are highly multicutural nation, but we are also atheistic, this is not a jihad or holy war to us, this is mere defensive action)
Vrak
21-10-2003, 03:31
To: All concerned nations
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: "Liberation"

Why doesn't anyone consider sending inspectors instead of jumping on the war wagon?
21-10-2003, 03:49
OOC: Has anyone noticed my forces yet? I'm sure Al Anbar would appreciate them, since I'm helping him out.

IC:
Transmission: to Al Anbar
From: King Priam of Troy

Three-thousand Trojan Royal Army Units have confirmed their arrival at the coast of Syria. We request permission, and orders, of where our noble warriors are to move themselves to.

Here is a final list of forces deployed to Al Anbar:

1.) 3000 Trojan Royal Army Units (infantry carries MA5B assault rifle, FN-57 pistol, and two M9 fragmentation grenades; support carries M90 shotgun, FN-57 pistol; artillery carries M19 SSM rcoket launcher, FN-57 pistol, two M9 fragmentation grenades)

2.) 150 Zeus I APC's

3.) 400 M12 Warthog LRV's

Further military support will be sent when possible.

Glory to aegis-bearing Zeus.

--End Transmission--

Secret Telegram

Greetings,

For now, we ask that you deploy your forces around Aleppo, Syria, so as to be ready to force back a seaborne invasion.

Signed,

Minister of Defense
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 03:57
*Communique to Al Anbar*

Where do you wish us to set up our COmmand Post? We have 2 million mobilized soldiers in position, as well as 52 Wings currently stationed along the northern border of Crownguard. If they get too close to your capital, tell us and we will release the CONVENTIONAL warhead MLRS missiles. Finally, we wish to see proof of your willingness to pay or you will find these units suddenly disappearing..or worse....appearing.

"Imperium Trans Gnaritas" "Power through knowledge"

I have the honor to be respectfully yours,
General Rasheed Bashkiir
Head of the Crownguardian Forces
21-10-2003, 04:09
Telegram - Crownguard

The State Company for Uranium Mining has produced approximately 5,000 tons of depleted uranium for your pleasure. They have been loaded onto trucks and are waiting for pickup by your sea transports.

Signed,

Minister of Defense
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 04:14
* Response*

Acceptable, we will transport them by VTOL cargo planes. Thank you for your cooperation.

Now, for the logistics part...where do you wish us?
Western Asia
21-10-2003, 06:03
OOC: SOME CLEARLY REQUIRED NOTES

Iraqi Satellite Television - Palestinian Liberation Authority; Suicide Blast in Settlement (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80294)

"Thirty four Zionists have died, One Palestinian martyred herself, and sixty five Zionists have been wounded, many near death."

"The Republic of Al Anbar congradulates the Palestinian Liberation Authority on their attack on the illegal Zionist settlement inside Palestine."

"The latest reports confirm the carnage wrought by the agents of Al Anbar who today killed or injured scores civilians, mostly Christian and Muslim Arabs."

"It is reported that at least 11 civilians were murdered and more than 43 others have suffered serious to moderate injuries at the Israel Café where a young woman, apparently in the employ of the Al Anbar government, killed herself in a suicide bombing. This was the first such attack in the many years since the Great Settling. The record of the dead includes several children. It is also reported that Abdul al Hak, the nephew of the Mufti of Jerusalem, may have been injured in the incident and that his family was also present."


Al Anbar would like to officially answer this propaganda:

1) Palestinian Islamic Jihad, for one, is not a terrorist organization. It has been fighting for a Palestinian state. Secondly, suicide bombings are not a terrorist action, especially when the suicide bomber was an army soldier and those he killed were the enemy soldiers.

2) Yes, and? The Satellite Channel reported what happened, nothing more. The women was not an employee of the Republic of Al Anbar. That is a lie and by the Zionist entity.

(All OOC here)
Ok, Al Anbar recanted on that attack when it turned into a game of "10 seconds from obliteration via WA." If he hadn't recanted then this whole argument would be of no issue as Al Anbar would be gone.

Secondly, PIJ is most definitely a terrorist group, especially since it launches its assaults against civilians and at civilian locations.

Third, Suicide bombings can still be terroristic even when used against soldiers, as it often involves the clothing of combatants in civilian clothing and guise (generally agreed upon as a warcrime, since it encourages cruel behavior of innocent civilians)...it is still meant to terrorize the soldiers. Admittedly, it is less of a horrible act as the soldiers are declared combatants, but unless the suicide bomber is dressed in proper attire it is still a war crime.

Fourthly (to Al Anbar), I thought that you were ignoring future tech...well, The Trojan Empire has a lot of future tech. Just saying.

Fifthly, Iraq has very few, if any, natural sources of Uranium...to claim that (for the purposes of the RP) Iraq and Syria have such resources is most definitely stretching things. In a related note, you don't mine DU...it is made by "using up" uranium fuel rods in nuclear reactors and then separating the "spent" fuel rods via complicated chemical processes (the "un-used uranium" is then re-cycled into new fuel rods, when possible). The amount of uranium ore claimed is also beyond belief for the fact that Al Anbar has had its infrastructure completely destroyed at least once in the last few RP years.
21-10-2003, 06:07
OOC:

1) I did not "recant", I simply stated that it was not against you.

2) You may see it as a 'terrorist organization' but I do not.

3) War is war. Anything (between soldiers that are armed and fighting) goes.

4) Yes, future tech and WMDs are ignored.

5) Well, a while back, I (through the issues stuff) supposedly found uranium... And therefore, I have uranium.. :)

And what are you talking about? What infrastructure destroyed? In the war with Ell, Ell bombed very little.
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 06:10
Actually..I was wondering about that. Though Crownguard is WELL within acceptable limits..we are early 21st century tech. Our economy is based on military strength and corporate skill, combiend with innovative technology. Social programs are hardly needed when people are indoctrinated early to love the country. No, this is not evil, we truly are humanitarian (multicutural, open, equal opportunites for non-nobles, equality of sexes and race, no descrimination). "Everyone fights, no one quits". There are no handouts, everyone can help, the cocnept of eudamonia... "everyone has a place in Crownguard"

In reference, if they lack the uranium, then we will turn on them unless they make a suitable offer. We are mercenary soldiers, first and foremost, the imperial mark is worth a great deal, but we are ALWAYS honorable people. except when invaded, then..then you don want to be the invaders...trust me.


REFERENCE: See Note General Bashkiir sent to the Coalition Forces
Western Asia
21-10-2003, 06:24
OOC:OOC:

1) I did not "recant", I simply stated that it was not against you.

I figured that you'd made it a non-event when you didn't reply to the comments...I guess it's not recanted then (but there's no one else to be the target so it still isn't quite clear who else it might've been...

2) You may see it as a 'terrorist organization' but I do not.

Targeting civilians in cafes with explosives is terrorist in my book...I guess we disagree on that point.

3) War is war. Anything (between soldiers that are armed and fighting) goes.

But if the soldiers on one side do not dress as soldiers then it is far from "anything goes."

4) Yes, future tech and WMDs are ignored.
So then what's the deal with The Trojan Empire and you? (Or is this a one-way ban only?)

5) Well, a while back, I (through the issues stuff) supposedly found uranium... And therefore, I have uranium.. :)

So you're not really playing with the cards dealt to you then? (ie, are you really playing as Iraq+Syria or something loosely based upon it?)

And what are you talking about? What infrastructure destroyed? In the war with Ell, Ell bombed very little.

There were other RPers in that war, and you still have yet to properly justify claimed ignores of those other players...and they just blasted any and all infrastructure in sight.
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 06:27
Im neutral in this..I know Im in good rper form. Also, to be honest, my services are for sale by either party..its jsut that Al Anbar is the only nation to hire me. You could've made thins easier ont he Coalition..much easier if they had hired me instead.
21-10-2003, 06:33
Im neutral in this..I know Im in good rper form. Also, to be honest, my services are for sale by either party..its jsut that Al Anbar is the only nation to hire me. You could've made thins easier ont he Coalition..much easier if they had hired me instead.

So, your troops never arrived in Al Anbar and I never contacted you?
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 06:40
Oh no..I am there, and ready to fight. Im just saying what COULD have happened. And the bit about the uranium, its jsut if you RPLY try to trick me. It doesnt mean I will betray you. Mercs can NEVER break contracts, or else they lose credibility. I am still part of the Alliance, as along as I get my cut. Fair is fair, and you are paying for quality, not some rinky dink 3rd world screw-like-rabbits People's Army...


The Crownguardian Forces are ALWAYS honorable, based upon the ideals of chivalry and valor long absent. Quarter to the enemy, proper conduct, innocents protected, etc. We will live and die by your country Al Anbar, for we swear an oath upon a contract never to go against it, no matter how badly we are doing. If you fufill your side, we will return it....completely.
Tersanctus
21-10-2003, 07:05
**Official Response to the leaders of the Coalition**

We of the Crownguardian Imperial Forces have taken Al Anbar under our wing. While yes indeed we are mercenary forces in this matter, we are NOT barbarians, as evidenced below. We will employ solely honorable methods of war concurrent with standards decent to human morality. No inhumane treatment of prisoners of war, no NBC weapons, no use of civilians in this affair. We ask you guarantee the same outcomes in this affair, as we would hate to see this degenerate into something ugly and dishonorable. In addition, we wish to meet with a representative of your Coalition as to possible diplomatic talks. We will not threaten the integrity of the nation of Al Anbar, so long as we recieve our just recompense. In the future, we ask you do not consider this as a possible threat for war later, a very unprofitable war for you it will be. This is mere business to us, with a slight tinge of humanitarian concern.

Our units are in position, and lay in wait for your forces. May your god protect you, for you shall need it from Our wrath.

I have the honor to remain respectfully yours,
General Rasheed Bashkiir
Crownguardian Royal Stormtroopers

(OOC:Yes, we are highly multicutural nation, but we are also atheistic, this is not a jihad or holy war to us, this is mere defensive action)


To Crownguard:

To understand the United Emirates, is too understand that no nation in the United Emirates has yet to produce any NBC weaponry.

If your concern is merley Diplomatic, then why have you taken aggressive Military action? You threaten the United Emirates with your pathetic "wrath", than claim this is merley a "humanitarian" interest.

The United Emirates has never in all its history, ever purposley commited violations of the Geneva Convention. In fact we have had instances of entire legions of armies surrendering to us, simply because we would treat them better as POW's than there own country did them.

I strongly suggest you stand down now. The United Emirates cannot, under threat, consider you a peacekeeper, or a humanitarian interest country. Quite the contrary, if you serve to defend the current Regime, than you support the atrocities that they commit, and when this war is over your Nations leaders and Military Heads, will be tried as war criminals.

It is our mutual benefit to solve this diplomatically, we do not wish too pull our substanially more advanced and numerous Military, anymore than the sons, daughters and wives of yours wish to lose there fathers and brothers.

Furthermore you may consider me the Head Diplomat of The United Emirates, as well as any that the Drakonian Imperium may wish to send.


http://www.gamespy.com/avatars/av/MR/mr211.gif

Patrick Stewart
Secretary on Foreign Relations
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 07:48
**Official Response to the leaders of the Coalition**

We of the Crownguardian Imperial Forces have taken Al Anbar under our wing. While yes indeed we are mercenary forces in this matter, we are NOT barbarians, as evidenced below. We will employ solely honorable methods of war concurrent with standards decent to human morality. No inhumane treatment of prisoners of war, no NBC weapons, no use of civilians in this affair. We ask you guarantee the same outcomes in this affair, as we would hate to see this degenerate into something ugly and dishonorable. In addition, we wish to meet with a representative of your Coalition as to possible diplomatic talks. We will not threaten the integrity of the nation of Al Anbar, so long as we recieve our just recompense. In the future, we ask you do not consider this as a possible threat for war later, a very unprofitable war for you it will be. This is mere business to us, with a slight tinge of humanitarian concern.

Our units are in position, and lay in wait for your forces. May your god protect you, for you shall need it from Our wrath.

I have the honor to remain respectfully yours,
General Rasheed Bashkiir
Crownguardian Royal Stormtroopers

(OOC:Yes, we are highly multicutural nation, but we are also atheistic, this is not a jihad or holy war to us, this is mere defensive action)


To Crownguard:

To understand the United Emirates, is too understand that no nation in the United Emirates has yet to produce any NBC weaponry.

If your concern is merley Diplomatic, then why have you taken aggressive Military action? You threaten the United Emirates with your pathetic "wrath", than claim this is merley a "humanitarian" interest.

The United Emirates has never in all its history, ever purposley commited violations of the Geneva Convention. In fact we have had instances of entire legions of armies surrendering to us, simply because we would treat them better as POW's than there own country did them.

I strongly suggest you stand down now. The United Emirates cannot, under threat, consider you a peacekeeper, or a humanitarian interest country. Quite the contrary, if you serve to defend the current Regime, than you support the atrocities that they commit, and when this war is over your Nations leaders and Military Heads, will be tried as war criminals.

It is our mutual benefit to solve this diplomatically, we do not wish too pull our substanially more advanced and numerous Military, anymore than the sons, daughters and wives of yours wish to lose there fathers and brothers.

Furthermore you may consider me the Head Diplomat of The United Emirates, as well as any that the Drakonian Imperium may wish to send.


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Patrick Stewart
Secretary on Foreign Relations

We will not be swayed by threats. We have recieved reports that this is not the peacekeeping mission it is, that several nations wish to occupy land in Al Anbar and seize their riches for themselves. While we certainly respect such a great figure as Patrick Stewart and his diplomatic skills, we cannot in good conscience allow this travesty to occur. If you wished peace, you would have sent in inspectors and asked the Un for guidance, but you are taking a primarily unilateral action against a country that has yet to attack you. THerefore, in fufilling our contract, we are defending said government from such reprisals. We will not push beyond the borders of Al Anbar, save for air bases and ships off the coast. We do not wish this war, however, we cannot betray a contract ocne given. I suggest you conduct this diplomatically, for we are not primitive technologically. The forces we have sent are meant as the vanguard, the main force will arrive if needed. (Hey...lets make it realistic now..no spaceships bullshit!!!!)

We are not war criminals, we condone none of the acts REPUTABLY associated with Al Anbar. However, the wording of an oath cannot be broken, save by the other party. We do not wish to kill honorable foes, but we are committed, as we must be.

Any POWS will of course be treated as per Convention rules, as we will follow all standard practices for warfare, though not represented IN the UN. Crownguard is always open for negotiations as to a truce.

I am sorry it has come to this, for in another time and place, Patrick Stewart, we might be friends. Please, for the sake of humanity and yourselves, step down from this war and conduct it like honorable people. Do not initiate a war based on hearsay and rumors.

Respectfully Yours,
Tercero Xavier Delryn
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs
Dyelli Beybi
21-10-2003, 12:19
General Message to all Alliance Commanders

For those of you unaware of the Dyelli Beybian doctrine of warfare, the military is based heavily on Naval supremacy, whereas other governments have poured funds into the Airforce or Army, Dyelli Beybi has funded it's Navy. We feel this is advantageous as it gives us the capacity to effectively completely blockade Dyelli Beybi's coast in the event of war. However, at this stage we have deployed the majority of the fleet to Al Anbarian waters for the defence of our allies. For those of you unaware as to what is currently off the coast, the following list should prove useful:

'Steel Tzar’ Aircraft Carriers: 2
‘Albatross’ ASW Battle Carriers: 7
‘Sevastopol’ Battle Cruisers: 20
‘Stalingrad’ Cruisers: 80
‘Sphinx’ Destroyers: 100
‘Komsomolets Ukrainey’ Destroyers: 70
‘Principality’ AA Frigates : 50
‘Comrade’ ASW Frigates: 80
‘Skua’ Electronic Warfare Corvettes: 10
‘Muttonbird’ Fleet ECM Corvettes: 10
‘Lenin’ Torpedo Patrol Boats: 50
‘Victory’ Missile Patrol Boats: 150
MiG-29SMTK: 70
Su-25UTG: 70
Ka 27-PL Naval Helicopters (ASW): 94
Ka 27-PS Naval Helicopters (Multi-Role) : 42
Ka 25 Naval Helicopters : 28

This is under the personnal command of the Duke of Alexigrad, Lord High Admiral Reton Hinoalos, along with several subserface vessels. As such at this stage we do not feel that the enemy will be able to get a fleet past without considerable bloodshed, a risk we are hoping they will not wish to take.

As for the mining of the Syrian Coast, we agree fully with this strategim, also the placing of howitzers, although we feel a better strategy would be to import several of the new prototype super-heavy tanks from Dyelli Beybi which carry a cannon firing 200mm naval ordinance shells, as we feel the 155mm howitzers currently employed by our forces will be outranged by anything ship based. At this stage they have remained out of active service due to their poor performance against other tanks (profile too high, too big a target, shell traps around turret ring etc).

Unfortunately however, we will not be able to participate in the mining ourselves as the 3rd Engineering Division is yet to arrive in Al Anbar and as of yet we do not have any landmines.

As for Crownguard. We are glad you have arrived. If there are any troubles in payments, please disclose the bill due and it will be footed by the Dyelli Beybian government. You may regard this as a guarantee.

To the Forces of Troy, we are also glad to have you on our side, we are sure you will prove an assett in the upcoming conflict. We ask that you allow Naval Technicians to examine your vehicles, at least externally, and program them into the IFF systems. As they have not been encountered by our forces before, there is the potential they may be fired upon by accident, and we do not wish this to happen.

We are expecting the arrival in short order of numbers of Church Soldiers from the 'Poor Knights of the Temple of Solomon' as well as the 'Order of the Hospital of Saint John' (not under the Command of the Dyelli Beybian High Command, but rather the individual Grand Masters of the particular Orders) as well two proper military Divisions, one of Engineers and one of Legionaires.
(OOC Note: Legionaires are kinda like the Waffen SS, on whom they are heavily based (including the ranks)).

-General Lunchtime O'Booze





To Vrak Diplomatic Corp

While Diplomacy is always our first option, sadly the Coalition forces have been swept away by bloodlust and the desire to pat themselves on the back by 'liberating' some people. By the terms of our Alliance with Al Anbar, we have been brought into this war, which considering matters occuring within the former state of Karndi, we are naturally disinclined towards.

-Federal Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Diplomatic Blunders
Tersanctus
21-10-2003, 16:17
Crownguard,

I can offer you a private assurance that the atrocities, are not hearsay or conjecture. Al Anbar was formerly an Emirate. Now it has come to this with Saddam Hussein. As per your concern for the land grabbing, let me assure you that the only country so far, is the Belmore family, which has rightful claims to lands seized from him, by Saddam.

As for the oils and treasures, those belong to the peoples of Al Anbar, and will remain so.

I understand that honor demands you do this, I respect that, just as you must understand, that the United Emirates cannot stand by another day while innocents suffer.

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Patrick Stewart
Secretary on Foreign Relations
Tersanctus
21-10-2003, 16:19
General Message to all Alliance Commanders

For those of you unaware as to what is currently off the coast

Considering I posted before you, My navy and yours are about to have some shit..... :lol:
Tersanctus
21-10-2003, 16:21
OOC: OK Crownguard, Dyelly Beybi, Keep in Mind Drako and I are already surroundingThe Al ANbar coast, there is no way your forces could be there, lest youve already gotten into conflict with us, which so far I havent read. Please correct this.
21-10-2003, 16:30
The nation of Suraksha would like to note it's nuetrality in such a war.
But it would be foolish (and totally inhumane for that matter) of us to ignore the affects of war, and as such, we are offering the use of 2 Hospital ships and a re-furbished Cargo ship full of Medical supplies, food, water and other aid items to be given to the Civilian population after any war.

During any war, the Hospital ships' facilities are open to any patient, may it be from the Opposition, the Liberation or other forces. We request that you not shoot at these ships (they will be escorted by one of our Destroyers [and yes, we only have 1 to spare]) and keep a respectful distance from them.

We are also offering the services of any nuetral inspectors you may need to verify such claims. Whether they will be accepted or not is entirely upto you.
The Belmore Family
21-10-2003, 17:35
This is an OOC post just to show how my fleet will line up so it is easier for you to RP.


[code:1:a8435a929b] 1 BB Iowa Class Battleship
12 CG Ticonderoga Class Crusiers 15 DDG Arleigh Burke Missile Destroyers
3 DD Spruance Destroyers
19 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry Frigates 1 Seawolf Attack Submarine
4 Oscar II SSGN Guided Missile Submarines 4 Los Angeles Class Improved Attack Submarines

3 OHIO Class Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarine
39 Cyclone Coastal Patrol Boats
43 Bob Hope Class Transports
10 MEU deployable Marine Regiments
[/code:1:a8435a929b]
The Belmore Family
21-10-2003, 17:39
It was 12 O'Clock at night. The Prime Minister new now was the time to deploy his ships. They should arrive at 11 O'Clock PM tomorrow and hopefully catch the other ships by surprise. This attempt was sending up to 100,000 men into the country trying to liberate it. It was to be a hard Sea Battle, which they should win easily. But then was the landing a nd liberation. That was the hard task.
Tersanctus
21-10-2003, 17:49
OOC: Just so the opposition know this is a link for OOC info on the Armored Marine Division. Clicky (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1487518#1487518)
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 20:14
OOC: As regards being there, we do not use a standard "Navy" per se. All our ships are converted vector hovercraft (yes its possible...nuclear power all the way). THey ride lw over either ground or air, and can deploy pracitcally anywhere we choose, I rather doubt you interdicted the WHOLE nation by this time. Your still in international waters, first of all. Second, the Crownguardian CAF Red Wings are fully supportable from these massive Battlecrafts...they contain a runway and such, and 52 wings (208 fighters) is not as hard as you think to support. In addition, we have the friendly bases of An Anbar to support us if we need it. So yes, we are there. The only way we back down is if the contract ends, Al Anbar breaks it, or else something breaks down in our relations with Al Anbar. Morality cannot play a matter here, Crownguard isnt going to defend the policies of another, but it WILL honor its oath.
The Trojan Empire
21-10-2003, 20:14
Transmission: to Al Anbar
From: King Priam of Troy

Confirmed, O noble Al Anbarian. I assure you that our men will fight their damnedest to defend your land from the power-hungry, peace-lacking nations of this so called 'Coalition.' Colonel Dolon, the commanding officier, has been contacted and thy Trojan warriors have proceeded to ride to Aleppo. Let us prevail and overcome these intruders.

Glory to aegis-bearing Zeus.

--End Transmission--

***

Transmission: to General O'Booze
From: Colonel Dolon

Agreed, O noble general. Thus, several vehicles shall be transported for Naval Techinicians to examine.

We, too, are proud to fight against nations of bloodlust and sovereignty-defying. Troy will do its best to keep these barbarians out of Al Anbar. Trojan military units have been ordered by thy great Minister of Defense of Al Anbar, to move to Aleppo. If any of your ground forces are there currently, we look forward to meeting them and joining our now noble allies in battle.

Glory to aegis-bearing Zeus.

--End Transmission--
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 20:15
OOC: As regards being there, we do not use a standard "Navy" per se. All our ships are converted vector hovercraft (yes its possible...nuclear power all the way). THey ride lw over either ground or air, and can deploy pracitcally anywhere we choose, I rather doubt you interdicted the WHOLE nation by this time. Your still in international waters, first of all. Second, the Crownguardian CAF Red Wings are fully supportable from these massive Battlecrafts...they contain a runway and such, and 52 wings (208 fighters) is not as hard as you think to support. In addition, we have the friendly bases of An Anbar to support us if we need it. So yes, we are there. The only way we back down is if the contract ends, Al Anbar breaks it, or else something breaks down in our relations with Al Anbar. Morality cannot play a matter here, Crownguard isnt going to defend the policies of another, but it WILL honor its oath.
The Belmore Family
21-10-2003, 20:25
The Belmorian fleet drew closer they were within 3 miles of the fleet defending Al Anbar. The Belmorian fleet stopped. They could pick up the ther ships on the radar. On one of the Oscar II SSGN Guided Missile Submarines however, it was to be a big rush. The first attack was to be made. 12 anti-ship missles were fired at 12 of the ships blocking Belmore's way. The captain smiled. It seemed as if all the missles had hit their target.
Please confirm deaths and damage.
The Trojan Empire
21-10-2003, 20:28
OOC: Dude, I think Alliance fleets would have detected you first... but anyway, carry on.
21-10-2003, 22:26
The Belmorian fleet drew closer they were within 3 miles of the fleet defending Al Anbar. The Belmorian fleet stopped. They could pick up the ther ships on the radar. On one of the Oscar II SSGN Guided Missile Submarines however, it was to be a big rush. The first attack was to be made. 12 anti-ship missles were fired at 12 of the ships blocking Belmore's way. The captain smiled. It seemed as if all the missles had hit their target.
Please confirm deaths and damage.

OOC: 3 miles is... uh... very close. You'd already be detected.
21-10-2003, 22:28
OOC: OK Crownguard, Dyelly Beybi, Keep in Mind Drako and I are already surroundingThe Al ANbar coast, there is no way your forces could be there, lest youve already gotten into conflict with us, which so far I havent read. Please correct this.

Dyelli Beybi forces have been here since way before this conflict.
Drakonian Imperium
21-10-2003, 22:36
OOC: This Message Self-Destructed!
21-10-2003, 22:41
80 miles off the coast of Al Anbar

10 G-Battleships sat silently in the water. Suddenly, each of the battleships guns turned towards shore. Using computerized sattilite targetting from sattilites in geo-synchronous(sp?) orbit over the earth. Each of the battleships fired 12 volleys.

OOC: Please note that if the United States took out thier old IOWA class battleships and refitted thier guns they would be able to hit accuratly at up too 100 miles. Since these ships are more advanced then the IOWAs they can accuratly hit targets up to 110 miles away. Also my each of my battleships carry 6 cannons on each turret. So 6x10=60x12=???. Eh... figure it out for me.
Vrak
21-10-2003, 22:41
To Vrak Diplomatic Corp

While Diplomacy is always our first option, sadly the Coalition forces have been swept away by bloodlust and the desire to pat themselves on the back by 'liberating' some people. By the terms of our Alliance with Al Anbar, we have been brought into this war, which considering matters occuring within the former state of Karndi, we are naturally disinclined towards.

-Federal Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Diplomatic Blunders

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ENCRYPTED - MAX - FKC route - route complete
To: Dyelli Beybi -Federal Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Diplomatic Blunders
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
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Very well. We ask that you limit your engagement to the Al Anbar theater. We do not wish to repeat another 'Der Angst' situation. Rest assured, any attack upon FKC soil will, at the very least, involve the full might of the Vrakian military.
Tersanctus
21-10-2003, 22:46
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Crownguard
21-10-2003, 22:47
*a dispatch is sent to the representative of the Coalition*

Greetings Sir Patrick Stewart,

Crownguard would prefer this to be a peacable situation, if it can become so. I highly suggest you sit down at the table with Al Anbar, myself, and the rest of the Aliiance to discuss terms of a truce. We would hate to have to resort to violence, though we are quite adept at it. Once again, we cannot back out of this conflict, it goes agaisnt OUR principles. However, we are not required to fight if both sides agree to a non-agression pact, and are willing to meet at the diplomatic table to discuss these "atrocities" we have yet to see. If you press forward militarily however, we will be forced to respond in kind. Be assured, your sovreign nations are safe, only the offending forces will be targeted. If you decide after this engagement to press upon Crownguardian borders in a reprisal, you will find an altogether different scenario, one which you will not like indeed. For the sake of peace, let both sides meet for diplomatic discussions.

I have the honor to remain yours,
Tercero Xavier Delyrn
3rd in Command of Crownguard
Head of Military and Foregin Affairs
21-10-2003, 22:50
Information Ministry Message to Allies

The Republic of Al Anbar has no wishes at the current time to push onto enemy territory. We only wish to defend our land.

The Republic of Al Anbar thanks all of our allies for defending Al Anbar's soveriginty and people. We will continue to honour our agreements until the dead.

Long live Al Anbar.

Long live President Saddam Hussein.

Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar!
21-10-2003, 23:12
All over Iraq, spontaneous rallies have erupted in Damascus, Baghdad, Mosul, Kirkuk, and several other towns and cities. Video footage is shown over Iraqi Satellite TV and several other Arab medias who were there..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38267000/jpg/_38267386_iraq.jpg

http://about.reuters.com/japan/trader/backnumber/84_0602/img/IRAQI_WORKERS266.jpg

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1020930/images/30iraq.jpg
Tersanctus
21-10-2003, 23:16
Tercero Xavier Delyrn,

Firstly, thank you for realizing the neccessity of diplomacy in this issue. Our words to one another, have been strong, as should any proper diplomat worth his salt should do. But window dressing aside. Your military, is I am sure to be feared. But the plain simple matter is, you are outgunned in this situation, I respect that your contract and sense of honor maintain that you defend Al Anbar. Know that our Military too is driven by a sense of Honor and Purpose.

When we shed the light upon the atrocities that Al Anbar is guilty of commiting, and they do not voluntarliy surrender, we will have no choice but too move ahead with our strikes. Keep in mind we wish no harm upon the populace. Only a few hundred heads of state, that oppress there people.

If it is to be a battle to defend them, while we most certainly have no desire too needlessly attack your homeland, those Commanders present on Al Anbarian soil, will be held accaountable for there actions. Though we may negotiate a mutual release of POW's if the situation does arise.

We must decide upon a location to have a face to face meeting.

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Patrick Stewart
Secretary on Foreign Relations
Crownguard
21-10-2003, 23:27
*Response as regards the representative of the Alliance*


We have just recieved word that alliance troops have opened fire without provocation. While we respect peace and wish to negotiate, we cannot allow this. Already, the CAS Red Wings have commenced bombing runs on the invasion forces. I am sorry it has to be like this, but it seems your hasty allies have pressed us to this. We will not accept our commanders being held responsible for war crimes, for we are not part of the government of Al Anbar. Any attempt to treat our prisoners of war as terrorists or war criminals will bring about a response in kind. We do not wish this, so either call your forces back to pre-war lines or else this will continue indefinately. We will not surrender until Al Anbar does, and we will not back out.

As to arrangements for a mutual location, we highly suggest a meeting between you and I in either your capital or my own (Gariland City). However, though Im sure this needs not be said, any attempt to take myself hostage will not work, as I will be disavowed as ambassador, my aie to take my place, and bombardment will commence on your nation. Such are security precautions, despite your no doubt exmplary record. This is not meant as an insult, merely a precaution.

Respectfully Yours,

Tercero Xavier Delryn
3rd in Command
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs

**As this message is delivered, an additional 200 Red Wings depart from Crownguard to bolster the vanguard, as the 17th CAS Red Wings (52 wingsa, 204 fighters) begin strafing the Belmore Forces**
Tersanctus
22-10-2003, 02:13
Crownguard, this is not acceptable upon either part. Drakonia has begun the Liberation. As a show of good faith I shall come to your capitol, to sit at the table of diplomacy. Rest assured, I trust in your honorable nature.


Should anything happen to me, however, just so you know. However much confidence you have in your Military, I guarantee you that Tersanctus will engage you full force, and shall be victorious. But I do not believe that will come to pass, as neither of our nations wish harm on the either, who knows this may very well even be the beggining of a friendship between our countries. This Al Anbar incedent is.....of little importance in the long run.

Patrick Stewart
Secretary on Foreign Relations
22-10-2003, 03:17
OOC: Maybe I should... bump this up?
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 03:21
*Response to Tersanticus*


I concur, you will be treated as a person of your great stature should be treated. Upon my word of honor no harm shall come to the delegation. Perhaps we have sided witht he wrong side, I dont know. But I do not find it honorable in abandoning another country that we pledge ourself to, however wrong it was at the time. Short of an act of disappearance in our payment, we are required to stay.

As to possible alliances in the future, I would be honored to discuss such things. Its nice to see a voice of reason in this madness.

I ask that you set a truce between the nations involved while our diplomatic talks commence. I am currently embroiled in two conflicts (the other with Espario) and cannot mainatain both while discussing peace. If you truly wish a peacable solution, offer the olive branch to us, and we will accept it and stand down our troops. However, as long as the assault continues, that cannot happen.

Respectfully Yours,
Tercero Xavier Delryn
Third in Command of Crownguard
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs
Tersanctus
22-10-2003, 03:36
Patrick Stewart was aboard te plane en route to the Capitol of Crownguard. Clad in a black turtleneck, with grey slacks and jacket, he actually looked forward to this meeting, peace was always a greater path than uneccesary war.

As he arrived in the International airport, he took in his surroundings, as Agents came up to him, he greeted them warmly with a handshake.

"Mr. Stewart we are ready to take you to the Diplomatic Building, do you need anything before the meeting?"

"No, no. Thank you, I ate on the plane, I would like to get this started as soon as is possible."

Twenty minutes later, Patrick arrived at the building. He walked in, ready to speak with Tercero Xavier Delryn.

OOC: So you know I ordered a ceasefire in the war thread.
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 03:43
*The Tercero sat behind a large expansive desk, on one side there were literally dozens of maps cluttered, pinpoitned by various force movements and plans. On the other side sat a veritable liberary of books on every single subject concerning psychology, philosophy, diplomacy, ethics, and leadership. He leaned back, offering the respected Mr Stewart a platter of pastries, a very large and comfortable leather chair, and a mini-bar rolled in.*

He stands up to shake the ambassadors hand, a tall man in an ornate grey and black uniform, a green sash over his shoulder with gloves. He had brown hair and a fairly boyish complexion, however underneath his eyes were hardened steel to match his silvery words*

"Welcome Mr Stewart, please mind the mess. As we are concerned in two major wars, and the peace process, I am...how shall we say...swamped. At any rate, yes I am the head of all military and foreign affairs, Xavier Delryn. An honor to meet you."
22-10-2003, 04:03
OOC:

hmm....is it too late to join in this some way or the other?? I don't have much of a military, but who needs that when you can stop via paperwork :twisted:
Tersanctus
22-10-2003, 04:08
Patrick took Tercero's Hand in his, and shook firmly with a smile.

"I understand completely about the mess, it is of no concern. To start, I should tell you that a ceasefire has been declared, Drakonian Imperium....understood, after some talking."

Patrick took the seat and a pastry.

"Mmm, Delicious."

"Now then, I can see that your nation is somewhat occupied with other conflicts at the moment. As well as I understand that you are honorbound to fulfill your contract ith Al Anbar. I apologize for my stern words before, your nations position was...unclear at first."

He than poured himself a glass of scotch, and nodded in Terceros direction. "Thank you."

After he took a sip, he began again.

"But let me offer you an assurance, from the highest authority, Executor Edmund Dantes, that no POW of Crownguard, should things escalate that is, will be treated inhumanely in the least, and will be promptly released once things end. And we ask the same of Crownguard. Our record on this matter should speak for itself, we have a very clean Human Rights Record."

And than his face than became darkened, troubled to speak of the obvious matter.

"And human rights, is the very thing this Liberation is about. I dont deny that the move is Imperialist in nature, nor that certain parties involved will recieve certain lands should the UE prevail. However, I can offer you these.."

Patrick pulls out a large manila folder from his his black leather briefcase, and hands it too Tercero.

"...documents, Photographs, Witnesses, Refugee Accounts, Acumen Agents inside Al Anbarian territory all reporting the arocities of which we speak. Millions have died to the hand of Saddam Hussein. You can check them for yourself. One thing in particular, if you post one of your sattelites to these co-ordinates, it shows a massive graveyard of thousands of people that we believe to be freedom fighters."

Patrick took another swig of his scotch.

"And if all this isnt enough to convince you, I dont know what will. Your contract, and correct me if I am wrong, stipulates that you must defend Al Anbarian Soil if attacked. I believe that it may be possible to correct the situation without bloodshed. We, or at least Tersanctus, seeks only that the current regime resigns, and that an interim government is set in place unil one can be set up that the people control. The obvious problem being, the current regime will refuse to give up power, and they will use their military to protect that power. In the end, unless another alternative can be found, War is the only way. And I pray that it does not come to that, but Tersanctus will fight."

Patrick looked at Tercero waiting for his response.
22-10-2003, 04:12
Message to those involved

The Republic of Al Anbar, wanting to avoid hostilities that will surely kills tens of thousands of innocent people, is willing to allow inspectors from Crownguard, Dyelli Beybi, and Tersanctus to enter the country and to view the reality.

We await your response to see whether you are truely for peace or for the killing of innocent civilians.

Signed,

Minister of Information
Tersanctus
22-10-2003, 04:26
Al Anbar,

We can assure you we have had our own "inspectors" in your country for some time.

As for the ceasefire, we do not wish to harm any civilians in the least. But though it might be unavoidable, we feel that our intervention will be significantly lower than were you to allowed continued reign.

But if you are only truly concerned for your citizens welfare, you have 48 hours for all current heads of state to resign and you will be allowed safe passage to a neutral country to live in exile.

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Jon Stewart
Secretary of Information
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 04:27
*The Tercero looks to the man, sipping his own cup of coffee, his eyes somewhat red from staying up several nights over this matter*

"I shall look over these at once..if it is true, then the nation of Al Anbar and I will have much to discuss. As to our contract, yes we are stipulated to defend Al Anbar soil from attack. It stipulates nothing about the government itself. *he leans forward* I have several ideas that I could "suggest" to you, that would affect the same result as war. Right now, you seem the aggressors in this situation. However, if you were the peacekeepers, why, I do beleive Crownguard would allow peacekeeper troops into the nation. Purely for humanitarian concerns of course."

*he sips again, as he examines the evidence provided*

"To be honest, the evidence is pretty damning, and our nation itself is atheistic, we arent here for religious concerns. If you found a way to remove the government without an invasion, then you could come in as peacekeepers, as I said before. Key words friend, are soil and invasion. They make no reference for..how shall we say...unorthodox measures."

*he smiles deviously*

"However, I speak of these things as a potential friend, not in any way to be considered "official" responses. I cannot allow an invasion, but a peacekeeping initiative I may allow. Prove to me the country is embroiled in a civil war of any kind, that the government has a enemy WITHIN Al Anbar, and I will allow you to send forces within to 'access the situation and provide aid to the proper recipients. Or, if you cannot, prove the country is in an anarchy..I leave it up to you on how to provide THAT situation."

*he leaned back, hands folded as he awaited the response from the ambassador, ready with another strong cup of cinnamon coffee*

(OOC: If any of you besides me and Tersanctus respond back to this in ANY way as if you heard it, your gonna get it, I swear. There are NO news conferences, bugs, media, or any documentation here. It is completely private.)
22-10-2003, 04:35
OOC: What stuff do you have in my country, Crownguard? Troops, equipment, etc.
Vrak
22-10-2003, 04:38
Al Anbar,

We can assure you we have had our own "inspectors" in your country for some time.



OOC: Sorry, but that sounds pretty damn goofy. I suppose you have "inspectors" in Vrak as well?

Just a suggestion before this entire war really takes off - create an OOC parallel thread so this thread can be free from OOC chatter.
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 04:38
2 million soldiers, 204 fighters, and the transports to carry them. That is the vanguard. As for the earlier comment, he is a diplomat, rememebr that. THen recall the general leads the ground forces, and you may understand why I did it this way. Words and actions are different things, Im not sure how I will have them react yet.
22-10-2003, 04:40
Al Anbar,

We can assure you we have had our own "inspectors" in your country for some time.

As for the ceasefire, we do not wish to harm any civilians in the least. But though it might be unavoidable, we feel that our intervention will be significantly lower than were you to allowed continued reign.

But if you are only truly concerned for your citizens welfare, you have 48 hours for all current heads of state to resign and you will be allowed safe passage to a neutral country to live in exile.

http://www.gamespy.com/avatars/av/MR/mr195.gif

Jon Stewart
Secretary of Information

The people of Al Anbar will never believe your propaganda. You have never had "inspectors" in the country and will not have them unless you agree to our inspections.

You also have no right to tell the rightful, elected government of Al Anbar to resign. The people have come out in protest day after day, in support of my government and against your warmongering imperialism. We will never surrender. Al Anbar will be your downfall!
22-10-2003, 04:41
2 million soldiers, 204 fighters, and the transports to carry them. That is the vanguard. As for the earlier comment, he is a diplomat, rememebr that. THen recall the general leads the ground forces, and you may understand why I did it this way. Words and actions are different things, Im not sure how I will have them react yet.

OOC: How did you get two million soldiers into Al Anbar so easily? And how are you getting supplies in now that the coast is more or less blockaded in international waters by the enemy forces. Surely, Al Anbar cannot support your soldiers.
Tersanctus
22-10-2003, 04:44
Patrick smiled widely, he was of course used to context. This was where the real descisions were made, all the "conspiracies" of the world were in actuality simply putting things in a different context.

"I understand completley of course Xavier, I've been doing this diplomacy thing for.." He looks at Xavier. "...too long." Smiling again.

"And unofficially of course....we have several Acumen (Tersanctus Intelligence Agency) Agents inside already. I will see to it that they are put too good use. UNofficially, of course."

"I realize that at the moment we seem the aggressors. But perhaps if the situation were handled....in a different matter....perhaps a.....blackbag operation. After all the Government is not your concern...."


"Xavier, I must relay this turn of events to the UE immedeatly."

He puts out his hand.

"Not that I find your communications untrustworthy, but If Edmund hears that I relayed over a channel rather than face-to-face, I wouldnt hear the end of it."

"......But, I will be back in a few days to continue our discussions, as I said, this may be the beggining of a friendship between our nations. And it is rare to find one that is honorable as yours, We are a mostly Atheistic country as well. It is considered treason to mix politics and religion in Tersanctus, and we all know what happens to those convicted of Treason."
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 04:46
OOC: By the fact I got them there before they announced a blockade? As I recall, they wouldnt fire on a nation until the proper forms are met. That means the blockade is agaisnt stuff going OUT, not IN. And be assured, we have our own supplies. Our people are well used to MREs and rations, every citizen serves a year in the military, getting proper training. All soldiers go through THREE years of training, so they are well conditioned to making do. We have enough supplies for several months, and can airdrop more if we need to.

Why are you complaining? Despite what Delryn says, there is also the factor of General Rasheed Bashkiir. And, he may act differently from the Tercero. im not sure yet. Also...if you decide to withdraw the payment..whats a chance will become a certainty
22-10-2003, 04:47
OOC: Let me tell you Tersanctus...

You don't have agents inside of Al Anbar unless cleared by me by a real RP of how you got them in...etc.

Secondly, I'll just take it that you feeding Crownguard totally fake positions of "mass graves" and etc.. since you wouldn't really know where they are.
Tersanctus
22-10-2003, 04:47
Al Anbar,

We can assure you we have had our own "inspectors" in your country for some time.





Just a suggestion before this entire war really takes off - create an OOC parallel thread so this thread can be free from OOC chatter.

We do, Dum-Dum. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83990)
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 04:50
The Tercero warmly shakes his hand, the weariness seeming to melt.

"Of course, I also have been raised in the nature of politics and diplomacy as well, Mr Stewart (Xavier is one of the noble families). By all means, go attend to your business with your superiors and I shall await you in good time. Dont hesitate to take whatever you wish as a souvenier or a snack. Im glad you understand my....concerns."

*smiles*.

"And I would indeed look forward to a friendship....as for traitors, we have an interesting idea you might like about what to do with THEM."
22-10-2003, 04:54
In the news

Protests have continued all around Al Anbar, supporting the elected President, President Saddam Hussein and demanding that any aggression against Al Anbar be stopped.

The People's Army has also been called up. It is made up of individuals 30-55, who have already gone through the mandatory training but have become too old or sick to serve in the main army. The People's Army has been activated in: Mosul, Kirkuk, Baghdad, Damascus, Al Qut, An Najaf, Aleppo, and Fallujah/Ramadi.

Checkpoints have been erected all over the country. Gas has been rationed and all oil refineries, pumping stations, and pipelines have been readied for destruction. Food supplies have also been increased and given at 1/3rd of their real price as the government increased their subsidizes on foods.
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 05:00
*General Bashkiir sighs as he pours over another report concerning the forces arrayed against them*

"A truce? Grand, now we can actually get into decent positions. I want 17th Div, 3rd Div, and 5th Div to move up to fall around Kirkuk, I want 2nd and 4th to defend the western approach from the sea, and I want 1st to fall in around the capital. All other divisions are on standby to be mobilized." "
*he rubs his forehead in weariness*
As for the fighters, they are to run cycles of patrols along the borders, but do NOT engage enemy troops unless fired upon for now. Dont want the paperpushers in a tizzy."

*the aide salutes and rushes out to relay the orders*
22-10-2003, 05:03
Checkpoint - Allepo on the highway to Kirkuk

The twenty guards, some from the People's Army, stop the Crownguard convoy moving toward Kirkuk.

"Where are you going? You are to return to your positions in Allepo." calls out one of the guards who goes over to the lead truck in the convoy.

This same thing pretty much happens to any other convoys that are moving out of the city and into new positions far away from it.
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 05:08
*General Rasheed Bashkiir looks at the response given*

"What the hell? I TOLD them in our contract we follow the orders of our generals, not the nation of Al Anbar. We will not stay locked up in Allepo like mice. Also, were not IN their precious cities, were only heading for the outskirts to DEFEND them. So damn paranoid. If they want us here, they better send a request to the Tercero, not jsut telling us WE cant move. Move out the convoy."

*the same breathless aide rushes out of the CP*
22-10-2003, 05:10
Message to General Bashkiir

Your forces are not to move inward. Your forces are to stay around the coastal area in order to defend from an amphibious invasion. Your forces will do not good in Kirkuk when the enemy is landing at Tartus. Deploy your troops along the coast. No where else.

Minister of Defense
Tersanctus
22-10-2003, 05:16
Tersanctan Fleet Commander Samuel Atkins, looked over the Transmissions.

"A Ceasefire, eh? Well, we wont let this be to get us laxed. Tell the other fleet commanders, were gonna play some wargames!"

"Aye, sir! I heard the AMD's gettiing pretty restless."

"Well, I think Acumens gonna handle this one. But I want the men on there toes anyway."
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 05:19
General Bashkiir curses as he reads the note*

"All right, we'll do what they say..for now. All divisions to the coastal areas to help with defense. But stay sharp, I will NOT watch out units act as head of the anvil, ready to take the beating of the hammer. I want 2nd and 4th to stay back 20 miles from the main positions, defend the fighters in Aleepo. If the Al Anbaran forces pull back more than 5 miles from OUR lines, then you have permission to fall back on Aleepo. Ill be damned if were used as a human shield."

*The aide, almsot having a stroke, relays the orders once more to the respective comptrollers and forces*
22-10-2003, 05:20
OOC:You guys might want to look in the war RP forum
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 06:06
*Notice to the Nation of Al Anbar From General Rasheed Bashkiir*

Greetings, Nation of Al Anbar. As of two hours ago (as Im sure you know), Red Tide forces began a bombardment of the coastal cities and areas, striking civilian targets. Crownguardian Red Wings have responded, inflicting heavy damage to the intruding fleet and sustaining minimal losses. We highly suggest you evacuate the coastal cities to the interior, and ask for your aid in holding the coastal area. If you wish us to continue to hold this position, we wish to know that the Al Anbaran forces are not using us to soak up the enemy blows.

Respectfully Yours,
General Rasheed Bashkiir
Commander of Crowngaurd Expeditionary Forces
22-10-2003, 06:09
Message to Bashkiir

The Iraqi Army has been deployed to several sectors near the coast. We have taken up position in several cities that are inland, but are not more than twenty kilometres from the coastline.
Crownguard
22-10-2003, 06:12
-Response to Al Anbar-

*Very well, however, we ask that you evacuate the coastal cities to prevent future attacks in case negotiations break down. We cannot perform this task while still maintaining operational efficiency*

-Bashkiir
Dyelli Beybi
22-10-2003, 11:09
General Message to all Alliance Commanders

For those of you unaware as to what is currently off the coast

Considering I posted before you, My navy and yours are about to have some shit..... :lol:
(OOC) Actually the Dyelli Beybian fleet was in Al Anbar waters since a previous RP thread. They never actually left after the brief war with Ell. IF you scan back over my notes you will notice I have made reference too it from the begining in this thread, but realised you lot hadn't picked it as being here which is why posted the note outlining what was there.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77744&start=200
Dyelli Beybi
22-10-2003, 11:31
The Belmorian fleet drew closer they were within 3 miles of the fleet defending Al Anbar. The Belmorian fleet stopped. They could pick up the ther ships on the radar. On one of the Oscar II SSGN Guided Missile Submarines however, it was to be a big rush. The first attack was to be made. 12 anti-ship missles were fired at 12 of the ships blocking Belmore's way. The captain smiled. It seemed as if all the missles had hit their target.
Please confirm deaths and damage.

(OOC)OK the radars on my ships would detect Belemore shiping within 90 nautical miles, unless all your ships are decked out with something like an Abbey Hill system. That is of course assuming no AEW&Cs craft were being employed, which they are. The missiles carried by the Dyelli Beybian Battle Cruisers have an effective range of 75 nautical miles. Interestingly enough 3 nautical miles (longer than 3 miles FYI) is straying within range of the 'super rapide' cannons (its a French system, fires 76 mm naval ordinance shells at about 20 rpm, basically shreds everything). Also I believe you're straying within range of the 'Football' systems several ships are mounting, this is estimated to cause burnout in around 50% of radar and targeting systems picking up signals from said ships.
Also assuming any of those missiles would hit is bad. Before I will admit to that I would like to know what kind of guidance system is being employed by the missiles, preferably the exact type of missile in order to calculate whether or not they'd plop harmlessly into the Ocean upon straying near this fleet. Some of the larger ships are mounting 10 CIWS systems anyway and combined with the 'Skywatch' Radars, which are among the world's best, albeit very short ranged, the odds of all the missiles getting through is aprox. 0.
Yeah, I'm a little bit of a naval buff :P...I spent my day today designing a 3 masted 26 gun jackass...

I think though, before going into details of this, I would like to work out whether we are going to assume my Fleet was in harbour in Al Anbar or whether or not it had wandered off somewhere and is now going back. Anyway I'll leave it over to you Tersanctus, I'm happy either way.

I'd prefer to RP things from aproaching at a point of about 100 nautical miles as that way it gives time for interesting manouvering and the use of all systems on both sides to their maximum effect, and in my opininon be a lot more fun, however once again I'll leave it over to you lot.
22-10-2003, 16:01
bump
Drakonian Imperium
22-10-2003, 19:29
The Drakonian Imperium will only consider the possibility of avoiding this horrible war, if Saddam Hussein and his family are removed from power. They then must be turned over to the United Emirates, a delegation of Dyelli Beybi and other other nations involved in the liberation to be tried for their crimes.

There must also be a shift in Al Anbar toward more democratic government allow the civilian government more power and giving the military less power to rule the nation.

That is the only way.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
The Belmore Family
22-10-2003, 19:43
Oh, sorry I don't really know that much about the navy section, more of an RAF man myself. Make that 95 nautical miles then.
23-10-2003, 00:40
Message to Allies

Unleash all your might on those who attack us. The Iraqi navy is not strong enough to deal with such large ships, but we shall be ready should they try and do an amphibious landing or airdrop.

Long live Al Anbar!

Long live our allies!

Signed,

Minister of Defense
23-10-2003, 03:43
The Dominion of Red Tide is pulling its forces from this war due too a resent crisis in East Asia(which is a hell of alot closer to my country)
Crownguard
23-10-2003, 03:51
*Flash encrypted message to Al Anbar Command*

*It seems the Red Tide forces lost the stomach to fight<stop> with the dishonorable scum removed, perhaps this war will be on a more equal bearing<stop>*

Gen. Bashkiir<stop>
Dyelli Beybi
23-10-2003, 07:59
Oh, sorry I don't really know that much about the navy section, more of an RAF man myself. Make that 95 nautical miles then.

(OOC) No worries...are you still firing missile from this range? If so it would be useful if you could post up guidance systems on the missiles as the defence systems I'm using vary considerably between different types. If you want some info on some of the real world missiles and radars I've put it below. Otherwise you can make up your own.

I'll admit now, I'm much better at my Russian systems than my NATO systems, but I do know most of the main ones...

Anyway for detection at that range you'd be looking at an AEW&C plane or something similar, I'm not 100% on how they do what they do, but I understand they allow the extension of radar coverage beyond the normal for a ship. This of course would mean you wouldn't be able to target said ships, although you'd know they were there. Now I know that some of the AEGIS systems will get you quite a reliable picture (on the surface) in excess of 60 nautical miles which means you'd be able to happily shoot at shipping at that range. There's stuff like the ZW06 that picks up ships up to about 75 nautical miles distance, but it isn't the world's most reliable system, it will miss stuff at range. My ships usually don't have anything longer ranged than an "Eye Shield" (range of about 50 nautical miles). Thats why I always RP having the AEW&C craft.

Now we come to missiles you're actually firing, there isn't actually that much you can fire at that range. I believe Tomohawks have about 40 nautical miles range (and they just ignore my ECM and chaff). I think an exocet is about 23 nautical miles. Stuff like "Sandbox" hit 75 nautical miles, but they're not particularly accurate and in my particular case I won't hit anything at all at that range...my radars aren't powerful enough to target stuff.

*Return message to Al Anbar*
Understood. We will launch a full naval assault shortly.

Message to Drakonian Imperium*
While Dyelli Beybi is glad that Drakonium Imperium is willing to reconsider this unwise war, we are not prepared to see our ally President Hussein usurped over a few minor blots on his otherwise laudible record in office. We suggest that Drakonian Imperium come to the negotiating table over this matter as currently the terms are unnaceptable, although I am sure we will be able to find a mutually beneficial agreement.

-Sir Henry Vaughan, Aide to the Minister of Foreign Affairs
Tersanctus
25-10-2003, 19:22
Patrick Stewart was on his return to Crownguard, to speak with Xavier Delyrn, the Tercero.

Tersanctus had made its descision. It was going to war. But the peoples of rownguard had impressed Edmund so much, that though the front must have be fought. This would not affect future considerations in dealings with Crownguard. In fact Patrick was delivering news that Tersanctus fully intended to build an Embassy there, and hoped Crownguard would do the same in Tersanctus.

He arrived in the airport, following the same rythym as before, he wanted to go directly to the Tercero.
Crownguard
26-10-2003, 05:28
*The Tercero recieved the news with relish, happening to like the rather candid ambassador. Ordering the royal guards toe scort the man once more, he makes a note to have plans drawn up immediately to establish a diplomatic embassy in Tersanctus at once, something.....grand. He hid his eagerness as he waited patiently to recieve the ambassador, drinks, chairs, and food laid out, a proper reception. As for situation in Al Anbar, he had already left word to General Bashkiir to mobilize the troops from their war games.*
Tersanctus
26-10-2003, 18:56
Patrick arrived to the Tercero's office, the usual flair of a busy leader's office was replaced with food, drink, and reception.

Patrick was impressed.

Reaching out to shake his hand,Patrick greeted Xavier warmly.

"Before anything, I know you know that the peace talks are dissolved, Crownguard and Tersanctus shall fight. We are both honorbound to this, and anything less would be stain both our honors. But this shall not end things with our two nations, rather, let this scuffle on the playground be the beggining of a friendship."

Patrick continued explaining plans to draw up an embassy, and possibility of a true alliance in the future.
Crownguard
27-10-2003, 01:48
*The Tercero leans back after shaking hands and other pleasentries, nodding, though suprised at Mr Stewart's bluntness this time. He sips a cup of coffee as he offers Mr Stewart refreshments. With the war in Espario satisfactory, and the situation in New Kevlandia resolved, he was MUCH more confident in this particular theater.*

"Indeed..... I would truly enjoy that. If nations could only show such civility at the table, as ours do, while yet still at war, why, soon we would have only peace. At any rate, our plans for an embassy may seem...grandiose, but will of course be fully funded by ourselves. In addition, we have allocated a rather largish land area for the establishment of a Tersanctan embassy. It is situated neart he Imperial Palace itself, yet is surrounded by beautiful parkland, to give it a more.....aesthetic flavor. We look forward to establishing permanent diplomatic relations with your nation. "

*He pauses*

"As regards the war, yes it is a shame, but such is the way of things. Hopefully, our forces will not have to be committed to the same theaters. We do not expect necessarily to win, but we MUST make the attempt."

*He sat back again, sipping quietly as his brown eyes gazed at his compatriot knowingly, reading his emotions*
Tersanctus
05-11-2003, 09:26
Patrick looked at Xavier in the eyes.

"It is, it is. Though we expect to win. The matter was made within the United Emirate Leadership Council. I assure you that though pro-Imperialst Tersanctus does NOT go on annexing sprees."

"And I am in full agreement with you on the civility, simply because we must have conflict, does not mean we must have Ill feelings."

Patrick took a sip of his tea, followed by blowing on it.

"The embassy in our nation shall be funded at 25% of the cost by the way. Edmund would not have it any other way. He truly respects your people, as do I. Other nations, are, how shall I say either extremley rude, unworthy of pity, or cowardly, unworthy of respect."

Patrick than paused a moment, his dark eyes looking around the room, yet not at anything in particular.

"You must know though that Tersanctus is torn about what we must do. I wish that the secondary option could have gone through, but with the heightened security in Al Anbar, it would simply be next to impossible to slip an agent inside. But as I have said before, we wish to look beyond this matter, which looks as though will be over in a few days."

Patrick finished, with another sip of his tea.
Crownguard
07-11-2003, 00:46
The Tercero looks back at him*

"We dont have any clear answers to give you or your nation, truly. We accept the inevitability of this action, and what must be done."

*He sips his coffee*

"Crownguard will follow your terms with the embassy as regards your own. We look forward to continuing relations with your nation, and will keep you informed of any new developments. My best suggestion, if I may say, is sit DOWN with AL Anbar. Resolve this current crisis. Once this is done, the contract is annulled. Then...after the war is "officially" over.....*whispers* start a new war, the same war in all but name, and Crownguard will be freed of its binding contract and subject to...negotiations. *leans back up* We prefer that you solve this diplomaticallly first and foremost, if possible. But if it cannot... well, you have heard my ideas and opinions. What say you?"

*he leans back silently, watching them man's eyes for a response*
Crownguard
07-11-2003, 00:47
Tersanctus
07-11-2003, 07:59
Patrick smiled.

"I see, I see. I shall inform Drakonia of this alternative, we must wait for the end of Ramadan anyways."
Crownguard
07-11-2003, 12:19
OOC: I will be gone till Sunday, I will try to pick it up from there, cpontinue the attack if you wish, but dont assume astronomical casulalties on my side, they are HIGHLY trained in warfare. Model UN conference 8) )
-Crownguard
Crownguard
12-11-2003, 22:33
back...yeah I know its a lil..shall we say..late?
Tersanctus
22-11-2003, 09:14
Crownguard,

As you saw by the actions of Dyelli Beybi, we could never condone the use of nuclear weaponry, and seeing that your nation didnt either, we know where you stand, and we shall always stand with you, Crownguard shall always have friend in Tersanctus.

Even now the Embassy plans are coming to close as soon shall appoint a delegate to your country, we look forward to the path that lies ahead, as it shall be one of friendship.

Executor Edmund Dantes
Tersanctus Dominion
Communique from Sanctus, Capitol of Tersanctus
Crownguard
22-11-2003, 09:33
To Executor Dantes,


Excellent news indeed. Currently, we have our troops stills tationed in Al Anbar itself, particualrly occupying the coastal regionsand have dispatched a message to your fleet concerning "troop movements" of our forces.

We look forward to continued correspondance with your esteemed nation.

Sincerely Yours,


Tercero Xavier Delryn
Tercero (Third) in Command of Crownguard
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs
22-11-2003, 09:43
Message from Al Anbar

Al Anbar, seeing the horrible results of the nuclear weapons used on Drakonian Imperium, we have no choice but to ask that Dyelli Beybi leave the land of Al Anbar immediately.

We condemn the use of nuclear weaponry. Even if it is the enemy, nuclear weapons kill indiscrimately and we will not associate ourselves with anyone that uses such weaponry. It should be outlawed.

Therefore, as of this time, all Dyelli Beybi soldiers and equipment have approximately twenty four hours to evacuate from the land of Al Anbar and leave our waters.
Tersanctus
03-12-2003, 09:38
Edmund took a moment from speaking with Jolene, as he has an Urgent message from Crownguard. The man that Patrick had spoken so highly of the Tercero Xavier Delyrn, wishing to speak to him. He walked into the Communique Room, opting to sit at the leather chair off to the side with the equipment rather than the podium.

"Tercero Delyrn, an honor to speak with you. I am sure this is over the military action in Al Anbar. I assure you as before, through my secretary Patrick Stewart, that nothing in this theatre will affect any future plans or relations between our countries. I was in the middle of my birthday party, and I am sure you can understand that all this is a bit much for me, as what with the Nuclear Attack in Drakonia, and the fact that the Queen is still here...that theatre over in Al Anbar, is a bit overshadowed here at home."

" I wish, I truly wish that we could have followed the first protocol of Diplomacy, and than you had personally expressed that you were pulling out, and than allying your forces with ours...than suddenly when we move forward,..your forces attacked ours...tell me truly Tercero....I know that the Al Anbarians held you to your contract afterwards..but tell me truly...if we had done as you have...how would you react...would you question our honor? Would you believe a word I say to you now? Because I know of the extinuating circumstances you were placed in, you still have my trust, and I do not question you honor, Truly, I see it more now. I am willing to negotiate a ceasefire, but you must show something more than words now Tercero...there is a time for Diplomacy, and there is time for Action, and Diplomacy is dead. (Sorry, I just HAD to say it! :lol: )"

With that, Edmund awaited Xavier's Response.
Crownguard
03-12-2003, 17:41
"What CAN I do? I am bound by our laws as is every citizen of our nation. THe notion of a contract is held sacrosant...what have you bid me do? TUrn on Al Anbar, and ravage what remains? Or will I stand aside as I watch this battle? For we both know Al Anbar cannot win alone. I need proof...PROOF that Al Anbar is int he wrong before I can morally justify aiding your forces. So far, I am forced to obey our law. We are trying as best we can to minimize casualties...but General Alibakkar decides as the Field Commander, in the end. "

He leans back, sighing*

I am an officer..but I also must worry about politics and tradition. There are somet higns greater than a contract..and that is honorable conduct. As I said...give me proof that Al Anbar is in the wrong, and I will hand you the head of Saddam on a silver platter."

"As for pulling out...it was a shortsighted mistake publicly aired. Certain....parties have pressured me to attack your forces, and I am forced to cater to their whims as well. But.. no longer...now I am the one in control."
Tersanctus
04-12-2003, 01:07
Edmund jumped up quite stressed out over so many matters plaguing his fatigued mind.

"You speak of me about sacrosanct? You were willing too pull out your forces when we lost far more civilians too the Actions of Dyelli Beybi, so atrocious, that even Al Anbar dismissed him from his soil even though he was one of his strongest allies!"

Edmund took a deep breat calming himself down, realizing he was yelling at the wrong person, he apologized at lit up a ciggarette to calm his nerves.

"What would I have you do? Pick a course of action and go with it! At least than we know what to expect Tercero! OF COURSE Al Anbar cannot win alone, the whole point is for them NOT TO! We suffer casualties, in the millions, and yet our forces press forward, because it is there duty. Drakonia showed proof earlier, The rest....is your decision to make."

"The United Emirates are Pro-Imperialist, but this is not an Imperialist move. We have no plans for annexation, only a change in government to the people. We want a few dozen heads of state, not the country, the longer you drag this out...the harder it becomes, Delyrn. Lets say if a contingency were to go past your forces unnoticed....whos to say you were at fault? The Templar can be very sneaky when they have too. Especially if there was a ceasefire and our forces were not to go at it needlessly, We hold our ground, you hold yours, the difference is You cant be everywhere at once, anymore than we."

Edmund looked at the screen and smiled.
Crownguard
04-12-2003, 02:14
"I have seen only photos....however, I am willing to agree to a ceasefire, Edward."

*He leans back a bit, sighing*

"During a ceasefire..I cannot be responsible if some units should say..slip through the net. I know not who is in the right here anymore..I have seen civilians dead on both sides, no matter how noble your intentions are. However, I have only the greatest respect and sympathy for your and the Imperium's people..and pledge full economic, ecological, and humanitarian aid."

*sips a cup of green tea, shaking his head*

"If you are to end this..end it fast..and end it completely. I do not wish a war against allies, there is bloodshed enough."

"Let the ceasefire commence...if you agree, Edward."
Tersanctus
04-12-2003, 02:32
Edmund raised an eyebrow. Edward? He must truly must be stressed as much as he.

"Ok, A ceasfire between Crwonguard and Tersanctus is in effect, I will radio my orders to my forces in theatre. Whatever territory we hold now, we hold, whatever you have. You hold. We will not engage, I have report here that some of your pilots were shot down, and returned to you? Is this the case?"

"Otherwise, if Al Anbar Forces strike us we will hold the right to defend ourselves however. Save for a contingency that unofficially will pass you to the south of Tartus. Agreed? No more unneccessary bloodshed between us two."
Crownguard
04-12-2003, 02:55
"Very well..."

*he flushes red in embarasment*

"Oh my..Edmund..Ims os sorry...time have been stressign as late and I..."

*shakes his head*

"I am sorry. Anyways..I shall radio my forces at once to stand down"


*he reached for his red phone, looking to the screen to make sure Edmund had nothing else to say*
Tersanctus
04-12-2003, 03:12
Edmund typed up the Encrypted orders. "I am Immedeately ordering a standown with our forces, along with the classified things."

"And Xavier, I am glad that we could come to this arrangement, You Embassy is nearly completed here, and I must say....your people have impressive architecture. And congratulations on your....humanist move in your country, I personally am a Kungshaoist, but that is more of a philosophy than a religion, and it demands thought over confomity."
Crownguard
04-12-2003, 03:22
"Thank you kindly Edmund...we can only hope that this peace can be salavaged, and Al Anbar will stand down its forces for its own good. As for the embasy..that is wonderful news, and your sis currently being built up...it may take awhile because we are putting it with a garden surrounding it. As for our switch..it was the best. Renegade cults have been found sacrificing human beings...just sickening.

Though... we dont hate religious people, we just want to offer a place where free thought is encouraged. Religions are permitted..unless it involves overthrowing the State of course."

*He chuckled politely, starting to punch the orders in, takign the call and barking orders into it*

"Units are standing down..."