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Altaran, Bayorta and Talaax to commence joint research

18-10-2003, 19:41
The two nations of Altaran and Bayorta have announced plans to begin research and construction of an anti-ballistic missile system. Primary defence will be a Space Based Laser system, consisting of a Gigawatt strength laser mounted on an orbital platform. The laser will destroy the missiles over enemy territory, rather than allowing them to get to the defending nation.

This element of the defence intiative is intended to intercept any launches during the boost phase; that is, launching of the missile from the launch platform into the air (before the cruise period of the flight). The intent is to put around 20 of these platforms into orbit, thus allowing for a very good chance of intercepting launches over enemy territory.

A secondary system will also be developed, to defend against missiles that have escaped the targeting of the SBLs. They will intercept missiles that have been able to reach the upper atmosphere and begin cruise flight. These will be known as Ground Based Interceptors, and will be launched from the nation, targeted at the ICBM. They will destroy the missile from the force of an explosive, mounted on top of the rocket engine that will propel it into the stratosphere. This element will be highly mobile, and will have highly advanced tracking systems that will enable it to close on an enemy ICBM at extremely high velocities - in the 'endgame' of the launch.

Each GBI site will contain approximately 20 of these interceptors, and be able to react to threats accordingly (having been placed around the country).

It is hoped that this new partnership development program will allow the two nations to defend against the threat posed by Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles.

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The United Socialist States Of Altaran
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Member of CACE
18-10-2003, 20:25
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18-10-2003, 20:27
Message from RAFT R&D Department
We here at the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Talaax Research and Development Department are highly interested in joining in this research effort. We are willing to provide lab space, land for test areas, funds and personnel. We look forward to your response.
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18-10-2003, 20:31
Message from RAFT R&D Department
We here at the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Talaax Research and Development Department are highly interested in joining in this research effort. We are willing to provide lab space, land for test areas, funds and personnel. We look forward to your response.
End Message

Don't you back people like Belem and The Blue Order?
18-10-2003, 20:34
We've never backed Belem, but I did for a time back The Blue Order. Unfortunetly for them, their racist, nationalist, pro-slavery and anti-socialist policies have caused us to break off relations indefinately. We no longer affiliate ourselves with TBO.
18-10-2003, 20:35
18-10-2003, 20:37
We've never backed Belem, but I did for a time back The Blue Order. Unfortunetly for them, their racist, nationalist, pro-slavery and anti-socialist policies have caused us to break off relations indefinately. We no longer affiliate ourselves with TBO.

Ah. In that case, then we have no problem with you joining the project, although since this is a joint research, Bayorta will have to make their position known.
Bayorta
18-10-2003, 23:12
Of course! Afterall Talaax is a fellow comrade. Bayorta, like Altaran will be investing a lot of money into the project and we hope that it will be succesful. My primary reason for such a system is to stop rouge nations trying to threaten my sovereignty with their WMD's. Of course we hope that it would be able to help us in all out war as well.
18-10-2003, 23:15
Then it is settled. The nations of Altaran, Bayorta and Talaax will commence joint research and development of the program. No other nations will be accepted into the agreement.
This technology shall not be given or sold to any other nation - it is for the three involved only - until such a time as it is deemed able to be sold on, or we develop a replacement.
Bayorta
18-10-2003, 23:20
The orbital part of the system will look something like this

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/space-war-laser.jpg

(OOC: Right Altaran? Does that look ok?)
18-10-2003, 23:23
The orbital part of the system will look something like this

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/space-war-laser.jpg

(OOC: Right Altaran? Does that look ok?)

Yes, something like that is the planned development.

The GBI rocket will be based along the lines of:

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/000708-nmd_ift5_8-s.jpg
Kahta
18-10-2003, 23:35
The government of Kahta already has a ground based defensive system being researched, but it is only in testing right now. I would like to assist your efforts with men, money, and supplies. This would be a great step forward for my country if it were allowed to be invlolved in an international project of this magnitude.
18-10-2003, 23:37
We do not support your request. We feel that too many nations will simply broaden the risk of leaking the technologies, and that, quite frankly, 3 is enough.

Anyway, shall we split research and development equally? Or do research in one country and development in the others?
Bayorta
18-10-2003, 23:47
We do not support your request. We feel that too many nations will simply broaden the risk of leaking the technologies, and that, quite frankly, 3 is enough.

Anyway, shall we split research and development equally? Or do research in one country and development in the others?

Research should be centralised with the scientists constantly working together, while when developing the system each nation should have more freedom and at the end a competition should be held to see which nations system works the best.
Kahta
18-10-2003, 23:49
As I said before, I already have a system in the works.
Kahta
18-10-2003, 23:52
EDIT: I'm an idiot. I have more than two responses going at once
18-10-2003, 23:53
As I said before, I already have a system in the works.

So you only wish to donate? You are not expecting anything in return?


Research should be centralised with the scientists constantly working together, while when developing the system each nation should have more freedom and at the end a competition should be held to see which nations system works the best.

Agreed.
Kahta
18-10-2003, 23:56
As I said before, I already have a system in the works.

So you only wish to donate? You are not expecting anything in return?



No, I was hoping to share some of my research and also have a space based defensive system and a ground based system. Also, if I was working coopertivley with other countries the research would be more effective and we could pool our knoledge together.
19-10-2003, 00:01
As I said before, I already have a system in the works.

So you only wish to donate? You are not expecting anything in return?



No, I was hoping to share some of my research and also have a space based defensive system and a ground based system. Also, if I was working coopertivley with other countries the research would be more effective and we could pool our knoledge together.

If you can promise us that you will not sell or give away the pooled technologies, then I suppose this can be acceptable.

What do you think, Bayorta and Talaax?
Eredron
19-10-2003, 00:02
The Most Holy Republic of Eredron urges the great nations of Altaran and Bayorta to share their knowledge with the international community, in order to eradicate the dangers of ICBMs altogether.
Bayorta
19-10-2003, 00:04
As I said before, I already have a system in the works.

So you only wish to donate? You are not expecting anything in return?



No, I was hoping to share some of my research and also have a space based defensive system and a ground based system. Also, if I was working coopertivley with other countries the research would be more effective and we could pool our knoledge together.

If you can promise us that you will not sell or give away the pooled technologies, then I suppose this can be acceptable.

What do you think, Bayorta and Talaax?

I disagree. Sorry its just when too many people get involved there are many information leaks that are simply overlooked.
Bayorta
19-10-2003, 00:05
The Most Holy Republic of Eredron urges the great nations of Altaran and Bayorta to share their knowledge with the international community, in order to eradicate the dangers of ICBMs altogether.

Sorry - that is impossible.
19-10-2003, 00:34
Ok Kahta, I've just seen your thread about a contract to build silos.

No way are you getting in on it now.
19-10-2003, 00:43
bump...
Galdania
19-10-2003, 00:52
This system looks quite advanced...It could possibly challenge Sturm Lufftov in it's effectiveness.
Kahta
19-10-2003, 01:03
If you can promise us that you will not sell or give away the pooled technologies, then I suppose this can be acceptable.

What do you think, Bayorta and Talaax?

I will not give any information away. Where would the benefit be if my country no longer had a way to stop ICBMs?
Kahta
19-10-2003, 01:04
Ok Kahta, I've just seen your thread about a contract to build silos.

No way are you getting in on it now.

Why? The order to build 10,000 ICBMs was announced a few days ago. I see nothing wrong with having deterrence from much larger countries.
19-10-2003, 01:07
Ok Kahta, I've just seen your thread about a contract to build silos.

No way are you getting in on it now.

Why? The order to build 10,000 ICBMs was announced a few days ago. I see nothing wrong with having deterrence from much larger countries.

If you are on the defence project, you could incorporate countermeasures into your silos and missiles on the contract. (Not that there will be many effective countermeasures that could be put onto an ICBM, but that's beside the point.)

And why would a 25Aug nation need or be able to afford 10,000 ICBMs?
19-10-2003, 01:43
pmub
19-10-2003, 01:47
Attika Weltraum und Motorwerke expresses interest in this project. Is there any way we could invest in the project? As you are probably aware, Attika Weltraum is experienced in building aircraft, and has experience in designing ICBMs, which could be used (Without warheads of course) to test your project, as well as give advice on how to best knock out ICBMs. Attika Motorwerke has experience in building ground vehicles, so it could help in the design and construction of mobile units.
19-10-2003, 01:49
Attika Weltraum und Motorwerke expresses interest in this project. Is there any way we could invest in the project? As you are probably aware, Attika Weltraum is experienced in building aircraft, and has experience in designing ICBMs, which could be used (Without warheads of course) to test your project, as well as give advice on how to best knock out ICBMs. Attika Motorwerke has experience in building ground vehicles, so it could help in the design and construction of mobile units.

We will not let you in on the project. Your aggression and imperialism is not favoured in our country.

(OOC: Not to mention the whole fiasco about ships, and your affiliation with DT)
19-10-2003, 01:52
OOC: What fiasco about ships?

IC: And we never claimed to be supportive of communist nations, either. Whatever, Hat ein schoen tag.
19-10-2003, 01:54
OOC: Y'know, the whole thing about that giant sea wall you were building, and having no ports, when you had a massive navy. And then you said you used civilian docks, which would nowhere be deep enough to accomadate military vessels.
19-10-2003, 01:56
OOC: Its godmodding to say that my civilian docks were not designed to accomodate military vessels, you have no idea how my docks were built. And how is the seawall godmodding? You never stated a SINGLE aspect of it that was godmod. You just said: Oh, thats a godmod, and evaded my inquiries into WHY.
19-10-2003, 01:58
OOC: Its godmodding to say that my civilian docks were not designed to accomodate military vessels, you have no idea how my docks were built. And how is the seawall godmodding? You never stated a SINGLE aspect of it that was godmod. You just said: Oh, thats a godmod, and evaded my inquiries into WHY.

OOC: Well, I actually never said the seawall was godmodding, as you said it hadn't been built.

But you did say that the seawall was built in the shallows of your country's waters....which would mean the docks wouldn't be deep enough.

Anyway, this is getting too off-topic.

Bottom line: No.
Kahta
19-10-2003, 02:09
Ok Kahta, I've just seen your thread about a contract to build silos.

No way are you getting in on it now.

Why? The order to build 10,000 ICBMs was announced a few days ago. I see nothing wrong with having deterrence from much larger countries.

If you are on the defence project, you could incorporate countermeasures into your silos and missiles on the contract. (Not that there will be many effective countermeasures that could be put onto an ICBM, but that's beside the point.)

And why would a 25Aug nation need or be able to afford 10,000 ICBMs?

I run an annual budget surplus of approx $150 billion. I spent 1 Trillion on them.
19-10-2003, 04:16
OOC: Altaran, I also stated that the wall around ports would be turned into a giant gate, and would cease being a wall at those places.
19-10-2003, 05:32
I am in agreeance with Bayorta, three nations is enough.

Back to the matters at hand, Talaax can provide either secluded labratories for research or very remote testing sites for the project. We have vast areas of undeveloped and lightly populated territory that could be useful.

OOC: You guys mind if I move to your region?
19-10-2003, 06:07
Talaax: Telegram
19-10-2003, 11:56
I am in agreeance with Bayorta, three nations is enough.

Back to the matters at hand, Talaax can provide either secluded labratories for research or very remote testing sites for the project. We have vast areas of undeveloped and lightly populated territory that could be useful.

OOC: You guys mind if I move to your region?

I don't mind, but you'll have to telegram the delegate for the password.
Bayorta
20-10-2003, 16:12
bump...
20-10-2003, 20:53
Back to the matters at hand, Talaax can provide either secluded labratories for research or very remote testing sites for the project. We have vast areas of undeveloped and lightly populated territory that could be useful.
21-10-2003, 20:34
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