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T-04A/B For sale

Soviet Bloc
18-10-2003, 05:12
The T-04A is a light/medium tank that was developed to fill the vacuum for medium tanks in the ARSB's arsenal. The T-04A, although a medium tank, can rival most MBT's around the world in defense, offense, and stand-off capabilities.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/415311/T-04ATank.JPG

T-04A Specs

Weight: 48.5 metric tons
Height: 3.1 meters
Width: 3.4 meters
Length: 7.2 meters

Crew: 3 (driver, loader, commander)

Engine: 800hp SB-LHP/HT-06 Ethanol engine
Transmission: SB-HT/HPTS auto-manual transmission
Track system: SB-LRHST 8-spoke track layout

Top road speed: 94 km/h
Top off-road speed: 67 km/h
Avg cross country speed: 61 km/h

Armor: Layer of standard stainless steel (dulled or painted) with a layer of titanium/steel ceramics after it, this works along side with slanted armor. Outer armor acts to slow projectile while slanted titanium/steel ceramics armor serves to deflect it or lodge it.

ARMAMENT
Main gun:
120mm SB-ATC-2 smoothbore (optional rifled) cannon with manual loading and standard recoil systems (Automatic reloading system is being developed).

Auxilary weapons:
7.62mm PKT machine gun
.30 caliber anti-aircraft machine cannon
Dual ATGM rocket slides (on each side of turret)

Smoke systems:
12 smoke launchers (6 on each side of turret)


SYSTEMS
ALMRS/TTAC-03 system: Tracks up to 16 enemies and ranks them according to range, heading, threat level, and tank-type to provide best possible firing solution. Also computes MOA and other variables and automatically sets turret and barrel to correct heading (when this feature is engaged) and can fire on up to two targets simultaneously (assuming ATGM's are on their respectable slides).

ARENA: Scrambles enemy ATGM's radars and tracking systems, also causes their navigational systems to cause them soaring into the sky until they detonate.

Shtora-3 defense suite: Scrambles enemy laser rangefinder, making it nearly impossible for enemy tank to fire, unless they guess the range. Also scrambles enemy communications systems and tracking systems.

AEISCN-01: Shares target information with other friendly tanks in the field along with other information, also allows friendly tanks in large numbers to make coordinated attacks through out the battlefield. Also allows friendly tanks to instantly reorganize into new squadrons and divisions for new assaults and also relays all information back to command. This system also checks in every 10 minutes (or shorter; can be adjusted) with GPS and military satellites to update terrain and enemy movements.

Price: 1.1 million USD (For T-04A and T-04B)

The list of turrets for T-04A and T-04B:
A1 Turret: Standard 120mm cannon (comes free with T-04A)
A2 Turret: Dual 30mm Anti-personnel cannons (Can also fire on air units)
A3 Turret: Dual 4-tube missile launch variant (A3A fires AA missiles and A3B variant fires anti-tank and surface to surface missiles, each turret design has specific systems for their specific task)
A4 Turret: Single SUA-02 chain gun with variable rounds and a modification-capable grenade launcher for ground forces support
A5 Turret: basic turret with no armament and no systems, for nations that wish to modify with their own weapons

Each modified turret costs 60,000 USD and 4 turret sets cost 240,000 USD (A1-A4 turret). A5 turret costs 20,000 USD
Also, each tank comes with one set of the turrets, the tank's standard turret is automatically installed.

The T-04B:
Exact same as T-04A except its body is heightened to allow six fully armed soldiers to be seated inside. The T-04B can either be outfitted with the A2 or A4 turret. T-04B costs same as T-04A
Soviet Haaregrad
18-10-2003, 05:15
overpriced.
The Frenchman
18-10-2003, 05:18
Cant see pictures :?
Furry Folk
18-10-2003, 05:22
Ya mucked up the link, all I get is 'not found'
18-10-2003, 05:25
OOC:
This isn't HTML. The proper code is:
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Soviet Bloc
18-10-2003, 05:28
Well... Uh... I don't even know how it posted, I wasn't finished and I was trying to fix the link... Sorry for the inconvenience, and yes, I was going to change the price, it is 10.5 million USD.
18-10-2003, 05:29
Well... Uh... I don't even know how it posted, I wasn't finished and I was trying to fix the link... Sorry for the inconvenience, and yes, I was going to change the price, it is 10.5 million USD.

your tank should cost at the most 5-6 million
Soviet Haaregrad
18-10-2003, 05:33
I'd put it around $2 000 000, it seems like a pretty simple design.
Soviet Bloc
18-10-2003, 05:34
Fine, fine, fine... I'm rather not used to selling units as 99.99856 per cent of the time I'm purchasing... It costs a good $4.1 million USD... Sorry for my utter inexperience in selling tanks...
Soviet Bloc
18-10-2003, 05:36
Err... Well, my targetting and acquisition systems are fairly high-tech, judging most systems in place (not all) can track up to 10 targets and fire on one... So I'll drop the price to... $3.5 million USD... Now let me get my link think all fixed up...
Soviet Bloc
18-10-2003, 05:39
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/415311/T-04ATank.JPG
Soviet Bloc
18-10-2003, 05:47
Well there you have it, I finally got the pic... And now the price is down to 2.1 million USD after careful consideration...
Soviet Bloc
18-10-2003, 06:05
Awww, come on... You mean no one wants some of these fine tanks... Order now and get 100,000 USD off the original MSRP, which means each T-04A, each specialized for you and only you, now only costs an amazingly-low yet ironically high price of 2 million USD! And if you call now, we'll send you this official T-04A vegetable chopper,worth an amazing 3.99 USD, your's for free!
Tom Joad
18-10-2003, 06:26
Until I see evidence of this system being battled tested I am unwilling to even consider it for my countrys miltia forces and will instead develop an alternative internally.
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 03:56
Well Tom Joad, I can supply you with two for evaluation and testing... If you're interested... Otherwise, no takers? Aw, come on!
Soviet Haaregrad
20-10-2003, 04:06
Well Tom Joad, I can supply you with two for evaluation and testing... If you're interested... Otherwise, no takers? Aw, come on!

We'll take 3 to compare to our recently developed LT-96 and PT-96 airborne/amphibious assualt tanks.
20-10-2003, 04:15
Well Tom Joad, I can supply you with two for evaluation and testing... If you're interested... Otherwise, no takers? Aw, come on!

We can purchase upto 100 tanks if we can evaluate them first. Please send 10 tanks for evaluation to Grazky, ASAP.

We will respond within 7 days.

By Order of:
Bradley Huye III
President of Warziristan
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 04:26
Hmm... Alright... But after evaluation ends and you do purchase our tanks, I wish for you to pay for five of the evaluation units... They are currently en route to your nation via air transport, expect them in a few days (few hours, whatever...IRL).
20-10-2003, 04:33
We offer 1.9 million for each of of your tanks, If you agree, we will transfer the required funds (190 million) to your account.

Bradley Huye III
President of Warziristan
20-10-2003, 04:38
Respond quickly, please!

Bradley Huye III
President of Warziristan
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 04:47
Very well, wire the money and the tanks are yours...
20-10-2003, 04:48
Okay, 190 million have been wired. We look forward to using those tanks in the near future.

Bradley Huye III
President of Warziristan
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 05:00
Ah, very well, I know for a fact that they shall serve well within your military as they have excelled in our testing and evaluation...
20-10-2003, 05:05
The tanks are all damaged!!!! We demand a refund!!!!

You cheat!!! We shall take you to the International Criminal Court!!


Bradley Huye III
President of Warziristan
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 05:08
Uhh... Comrade, I highly doubt that?
20-10-2003, 05:32
Comrade, your tanks are in very good share. The President was hallucinating.

Marcus Bradley Huye
Minister of Defense of Warziristan
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 14:17
Very well then...
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 18:45
Research has ended and production has begun on the T-04A and T-04B variants.

The T-04A with its integrated turrets ability can now accept five different turrets.
A1 Turret: Standard 120mm cannon
A2 Turret: Dual 30mm Anti-personnel cannons (can also fire on air units)
A3 Turret: Dual 4-tube missile launch variant (A3A variant fires AA missiles and A3B variant fires Anti-tank and surface-to-surface missiles, each turret design has specific systems for their specific task)
A4 Turret: Single SUA-02 chain gun with variable rounds and grenade launcher for ground forces support
A5 Turret: A basic turret shell with no systems or weapons that can be modified to carry any shells


The T-04B is modified T-04A except it's body is much higher and it has been modified for a Armored Vehicle-Ground Force Support role. The T-04B can carry up to six fully armed and outfitted infantry as well as limited supplies. The T-04B can also carry up to 1 1/4 ton of supplies. The T-04B also shares the ability to change systems and turrets with the T-04A. The standard turret for the T-04B is usually the A2 or A4.
The T-04B costs the same as a T-04A.

Each modified turret costs 60,000 USD. The Standard turret for each tank comes free with that tank. Four-turret sets are sold at 240,000 USD.
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 18:51
Change 'shells' to 'cannons/weapons' on the A5 turret explanation.
20-10-2003, 19:28
Change 'shells' to 'cannons/weapons' on the A5 turret explanation.

We wish to purchase 10 tanks from you @ 2.1 Mil. Please confirm.
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 19:34
T-04A or T-04B? Each tank comes with a single set of the turrets. I am currently considering on wether to sell them to you or not... For obvious reasons...
20-10-2003, 19:39
T-04A. We will use the tanks for our self-defense! Tadjikistan and others are planning to attack us for no just reason (Credonia and others have all withdrawn their forces).

Thank you.



T-04A or T-04B? Each tank comes with a single set of the turrets. I am currently considering on wether to sell them to you or not... For obvious reasons...
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 21:49
Fine... Only 10 T-04A's...
10x T-04A's come to $21 Million USD
10x Four-turret sets (the standard one comes free with tank) come to $240,000 USD

Grand Total: 21,240,000 USD
Units will be shipped upon money being wired...
20-10-2003, 21:54
Awww, come on... You mean no one wants some of these fine tanks... Order now and get 100,000 USD off the original MSRP, which means each T-04A, each specialized for you and only you, now only costs an amazingly-low yet ironically high price of 2 million USD! And if you call now, we'll send you this official T-04A vegetable chopper,worth an amazing 3.99 USD, your's for free!
With All Due Respect, Your tank is still overpriced, outdated and it has a 120mm gun, I know at least two or three tanks from WWII that have a 140mm gun or larger on it, Besides, classified armor could be anywhere from depleted Uranium to cardboard. Oh, and one last thing, a .30 cal machine gun gor AA defense. A .30 can't go through jack squat of Aircraft Armor at point Blank Range.

Respectfully, the USSF
Soviet Bloc
20-10-2003, 22:06
Uhhh.... Riiight... I won't even bother...
Soviet Bloc
22-10-2003, 04:34
Anyways... We are now selling the ALMRS/TTAC-23 tactical computer system with integrated Shtora-3 defense suite systems and ARENA systems. The total system will sell for 4800 USD.

And Soviet Harregrad, you may have three T-04A's and a T-04B for testing and evaluations. Sorry for the lateness, I actually never noticed your post before... And for your information, the T-04A is capable of being airdropped.
22-10-2003, 04:53
Give us a quote on your most advanced tank -- we should be able to purchase a few with the help of the Allawian economy.

Allawi annexed by Druze:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1890899#1890899
Soviet Bloc
22-10-2003, 05:03
Our most advanced tanks would be the T-04A and T-04B which are roughly the same save for the T-04B is configured to carry infantry (up to six). Both cost 1.9 million USD and come with the standard 120mm turret (The T-04B comes with either the A2 or A4 turret [see earlier in thread]). Additional turrets (4-turret sets that include all turrets except the A1 turret) cost 240,000 USD per four-turret set. Additional A1 turrets can be purchased for 60,000 USD. And if you want to put your own weaponry on it, the A5 turret is a basic turret with no weapons or systems and costs 25,000 USD.
22-10-2003, 05:27
While the overall design of your tank is made mainly for the lower cost countries, it is vastly overpriced. For about that price you could put an ETC(electric-thermal-chemical) cannon onboard and have doubel the potency and 3 times the velocity of even the high velocity non-etc guns. As for the armor, if you dont post some instances of its ability or its thickness, then not too many people are going to buy it. and i really like the idea about the interchangable turrets, which would very well help a whole lot for repair.


Note*The ETC cannon is a real life thing if you lookign for modern day tanks, just costs alot.
22-10-2003, 05:36
Awww, come on... You mean no one wants some of these fine tanks... Order now and get 100,000 USD off the original MSRP, which means each T-04A, each specialized for you and only you, now only costs an amazingly-low yet ironically high price of 2 million USD! And if you call now, we'll send you this official T-04A vegetable chopper,worth an amazing 3.99 USD, your's for free!
With All Due Respect, Your tank is still overpriced, outdated and it has a 120mm gun, I know at least two or three tanks from WWII that have a 140mm gun or larger on it, Besides, classified armor could be anywhere from depleted Uranium to cardboard. Oh, and one last thing, a .30 cal machine gun gor AA defense. A .30 can't go through jack squat of Aircraft Armor at point Blank Range.

Respectfully, the USSF

Well, i would liek you to name these tanks that had larger guns, the largest caliber tank round that was shot in WWII was a 122mm round from the IS-1's , russia's tiger killer. AS for the german shells they were all under 122 mm, and mostely about 88mm.
Soviet Bloc
22-10-2003, 18:44
Well you are right, I'm not that good at setting up prices... Anyways, all nations who had purchased units from me will get a 800,000 USD return on each unit purchased. The new, new price is 1.1 million USD. And yes, this tank was developed to provide smaller nations with a tank that can compete with more technologically advanced tanks and that costs less.

The armor we developed for this tank is the AHS-FA (Advanced Hollow Space-Fragmenting Armor) which is comrpised of two layers of armor, the first being 2 inches of steel/titanium composite then a one inch hollow area (except for supports and joints) the next layer is a one-half inch layer of treated ceramic tile with a layer of ERA armor beneath it. In tests this armor proved to deflect most ammunition although its a bit burdensome on the frame, rather hard to maintain, and a bit expensive. Therefore we are trying to develop an alternate armor.

The T-04A with its integrated and interchangeable turret system was designed to provide countries with an easy way of repairing damaged turrets to get them into the fight quicker as well as provide commanders with the ability to specialize tanks for certain jobs within a tank sqaudron or during an assault. With the right equipment and with a trained technician team, changing turrets takes roughly 6-8 minutes. The system has four hydraulic locks that engage in certain ports, a system then aligns the bottom of the turret to a hydraulic turntable and locking that in. After that is completed the systems wiring is threaded through the bottom of the turret and are locked into ports. To take off the turret, the locks disengage on the turret sides and on the bottom and the crew only has to pull the systems wiring out of their ports.

I am open to discussion about that armor... If anyone does have any armor to sell to me, I'll gladly purchase...
22-10-2003, 20:08
Well, the concept for armor production that i use, happens to be a layer of armor that is regular stainless steel(usually painted and dulled)with then a layer of titanium/steel ceramics under this layer, this works along side with slanted armor.
The outer layer of regular steel is used to slow the projectile, then as the outer armor is penetrated, the projectile hits the slanted ,much harder, titanium/steel ceramic and is usually reflected or is lodged into the amor. This all takes place and if the projectile doesnt penetrate the inner armor then the tank is generally still operable, and can still be used.
Soviet Bloc
25-10-2003, 04:35
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
25-10-2003, 04:39
Ardor, how much does the production rights cost for that exact armor, if you are willing to sell?
25-10-2003, 04:40
fix the damn pic

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Bonstock
25-10-2003, 04:42
Bonstock will purchase 1800 of these tanks. Money wired.
Soviet Bloc
25-10-2003, 04:43
Sorry comrade, but the picture is farther down in a reply... I'll have to change it on the main post... Sorry for inconvenience...
25-10-2003, 04:43
Ardor, how much does the production rights cost for that exact armor, if you are willing to sell?

no actual armor blueprints, its really just a philosphy of ardorian tank designers, so u can use for free.
Soviet Bloc
25-10-2003, 04:45
Thank you, I believe I shall use that as my new armor...
25-10-2003, 04:51
Here are some more segesstions for your tank, change out its current motor for 2x 800bhp ethonal turbine or hydrogen engines for better performance, bacause with that speed you have a large chance of being killed before your tanks can get in range,posibly increase the barrel length. ohh heres something you might watn to develop off of this chassis, make an ultra light wieght tank for air drop capability.
25-10-2003, 04:59
ohhh and learn to use the edit button please, cause it is difficult to get all the updates you've posted by havign to read all the posts here. just makes it easier
Soviet Bloc
25-10-2003, 04:59
Yes, I am working on the T-05 air drop-capable tank which will be developed on this chassis and with most of the same systems. Although I've still got alot left... Anyways, your suggestions have been taken to heart and improvements are being made, the barrel length will be increased and the engine will be changed to dual 800hp ethanol engines. THe transmission will stay the same.
Soviet Bloc
25-10-2003, 05:18
There you go, now everything you need to know is on the first post...
Soviet Bloc
28-10-2003, 04:22
Oh, sorry Bonstock, I didn't see your post until now... Anyways, order confirmed your tanks are on the way.
Edenstein
28-10-2003, 04:27
Edenstein would like to purchase 200 tanks for testing purposes.

Money will be *Autowired* upon confirmation
Soviet Bloc
28-10-2003, 15:32
Very well, order confirmed your 200 units are en route to your nation.