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Seawater Uranium Extraction (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79576&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd would like to present to the world a whole new way of extracting metals. Using a chemical fanction of amidoxime (obtained from polyethelene) dubbed Valkonite (named after Valkonezh city, where the research was started and completed), we are able to efficiently extract uranium from seawater. Not only that, through the course of research, we discovered that it can extract a host of other minerals such as cobalt, titanium, molybdenum, vanadium, thorium, etc. Annually, it can extract up to 16,000 tons of uranium in one harvesting platform.

We are offering this technology to other nations, provided that:

1) In exchange for a sum equivalent to ten (10) billion United States Dollars, payable entirely to the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd, the purchasing country or party would recieve rights, in perpetuity, to construct, maintain, and operate uranium-harvesting plants.

2) This contract in no way, shape, or form denotes the transfer of sale, modification, or patent rights to the aformentioned party. Any modifications made to the design of the uranium-harvester are the property of the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd. No resale of this technology to a third party will be permitted.

3) All uranium harvested by the uranium harvesting technology is the property of the harvester. Neither the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd nor any of it's affiliates who helped developed this research makes any claim, express or implied, to ownership of the harvested uranium.

4) Breach of this contract by any of the involved parties shall be punishable by measures beginning with, but not limited to monetary fines.

We would like to thank the Dominion of Kotterdam and the Republic of Freedom Country for thier support in this project. May the world thank you for this achievement.

The Principality of Roania considers this to be a threat, and will be monitoring the disposal of the seawater very carefully.

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd would like to inquire the reason why it is a threat to the environment as it is a proven fact that there is one uranium particle in 34 million other element particles in seawater, from that the axidoxime fanction quickly extracts and neutralizes it. Then in a dormant yellow cake form, it is enriched into practical use.

OOC:
Let me guess, you're only jealous because now I have a bigger uranium mine than yours. Water, 3/4 the earth. :P

OOC: No, you could never afford a uranium mine larger than mine.

IC: We care not about the environment. Destroy it as you wish.

We do, however, demand that all sea water be returned to the ocean. We will be watching your nation.

OOC: Jealousy goes a long way, personally I'm more bothered with the level of nuclear stand-off capability you can build up with this much of the most expensive part of the a-bomb production process available to you at a relatively cheap price ;)

IC:

The African Commonwealth is very interested in this development, and hail the ingenuity of Kotterdam, Freedom County and Zvarinograd! While we do not have the funds to pay such a lofty sum for the production rights(Rest assured, we're gathering commonwealth credits at this very moment!), we humbly implore that any uranium mined in this fashion by any nation, is not enriched to weapons material in staggering amounts - We all know the devastating potential of this discovery.

Regards,
Tomé D'Jango,
Foreign Relations Office.
For the Commonwealth.

No, no, no. We are only taking the uranium, not the seawater itself. I believe we have a misunderstanding here, we are only "screening" the uranium from the seawater using an amidoxime fibre net wide enough to let any marine life by. The seawater passes through untouched, aside from the removal of uranium.

The African Commonwealth is very interested in this development, and hail the ingenuity of Kotterdam, Freedom County and Zvarinograd! While we do not have the funds to pay such a lofty sum for the production rights(Rest assured, we're gathering commonwealth credits at this very moment!), we humbly implore that any uranium mined in this fashion by any nation, is not enriched to weapons material in staggering amounts - We all know the devastating potential of this discovery.

Regards,
Tomé D'Jango,
Foreign Relations Office.
For the Commonwealth.

Noted. However, we still reserve the right to choose who we sell this technology to. I believe we are responsible enough and we thank you for your compliment.

Dr. Sergei Valkov, Head Researcher and Advisor to the Premier
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

No, no, no. We are only taking the uranium, not the seawater itself. I believe we have a misunderstanding here, we are only "screening" the uranium from the seawater using an axidoxime fibre net wide enough to let any marine life by.

So long as you are only taking the uranium, that is fine.

If we get a hint that you are weaponising sea water, then that will be considered a threat, and your nation shall be destroyed.

The Council of Roania

OOC:
Look, can an honest, small nation even get by without having death threats anymore?!

Yeesh. :?

OOC:
Look, can an honest, small nation even get by without having death threats anymore?!

Yeesh. :?

OOC: Just the council not taking any chances. Feel free to carry on your business.

Bump.

The Holy Empire is intruiged by this idea immensly and wonder what chemicals would be required to harvest other metals such as titanium and such? That being said we would gladly purchase a single mineing rig for uranium and if possible the plans for a titainum one at your earliest conveniance.

Minister for Foreign Trade and Purchases

No, no, no. We are only taking the uranium, not the seawater itself. I believe we have a misunderstanding here, we are only "screening" the uranium from the seawater using an axidoxime fibre net wide enough to let any marine life by.

So long as you are only taking the uranium, that is fine.

If we get a hint that you are weaponising sea water, then that will be considered a threat, and your nation shall be destroyed.

The Council of Roania

By the logic you are using to claim threat from the new mining procces would imply that those nations who mine sea salt should be subject to the same criticism.

The amidoxime fibres do not isolate simply uranium but other metals as well, no additional chemicals are required, the other metals are simply unexpected by-products of this wondrous invention.

Dr. Sergei Valkov, Head Researcher and Advisor to the Premier
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

OOC:
Sorry, it only comes in one package, the technology and a construction kit for one plant. That goes for $10 billion.

The amidoxime fibres do not isolate simply uranium but other metals as well, no additional chemicals are required, the other metals are simply unexpected by-products of this wondrous invention.

Dr. Sergei Valkov, Head Researcher and Advisor to the Premier
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

OOC:
Sorry, it only comes in one package, the technology and a construction kit for one plant. That goes for $10 billion.

OOC: works for me ;)
IC.

Excellent! We would happily purchase one of these packages for now with an eye towards more at a later date. The money will automaticaly be transfered to your accounts upon recieval of a receipt and estimated time for arrival of the package.

~Minister for Trade.

Confirmed. That will be $10 billion.

The technology and construction for one plant will be finished in two years. (2 RL days)

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Iraqstani Government Banking.
"Where money is OUR pleasure!"

Hm… would it be possible to buy the technology for our greater understanding, yet not actually build a plant. While the idea of an additional way of mining Uranium within our nation is nice, we feel that a plant would make take a lot of Uranium Miners out of a job, which we are not prepared to do.

I you are interested in selling the technology, give us a base price we can work around.

Thanks,

Erinco Thallal, head of Research Marketing

Any chance of adapting the technology to extract gold, silver, platinum and paladium? We get our Uranium from our neighbours.

OOC:
It's easy to retrain uranium miners for the machinery/maintenance work within the plant, it wouldn't harm employment and cause riots.

IC:
Iuthia:

Before we accept your proposal, we would like to restate two of our terms and conditions for this technology that may or may not apply to this situation.

2) This contract in no way, shape, or form denotes the transfer of sale, modification, or patent rights to the aformentioned party. Any modifications made to the design of the uranium-harvester are the property of the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd. No resale of this technology to a third party will be permitted.

4) Breach of this contract by any of the involved parties shall be punishable by measures beginning with, but not limited to monetary fines.


If you truly feel that you will not violate either or both, you may say so. We await your reply.

Any chance of adapting the technology to extract gold, silver, platinum and paladium? We get our Uranium from our neighbours.

While this may be possible (due to the fact that erosion and other factors wash other ores into the sea), we do not advise it as it isn't proven cost effective. However, if you would really want to, we are capable.

Dr. Sergei Valkov, Head Researcher and Advisor to the Premier
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

Any chance of adapting the technology to extract gold, silver, platinum and paladium? We get our Uranium from our neighbours.

While this may be possible (due to the fact that erosion and other factors wash other ores into the sea), we do not advise it as it isn't proven cost effective. However, if you would really want to, we are capable.

Dr. Sergei Valkov, Head Researcher and Advisor to the Premier
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

Thanks for the response. When it become cost effective (ie gold prices rise very sharply), offer will be considered very seriously. Our budget is not quite up to the levels of this spending.

Zvarinograd>>

we still reserve the right to choose who we sell this technology to.

We consider Kotterdam to be a trustworthy and wise ally of ours - If this can place us within your consideration as a potential client, we would be very grateful.

Foreign Council,
For the Commonwealth.

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd has considered your offer and have decided that you should be allowed purchase of this technology. Your country is already aware of the implications of such a technology, as you have mentioned and need not worry about verification.

OOC: Oddly enough, I avoided number 2 because I was under the assumption (by skip reading the thread) that I couldn’t change the technology without being subject to number 4 (I mean, if we changed the tech, that would be wrong). However, now I understand that I can change the technology, I just have to give you details about what we’ve done to it and how to do it yourselves…

Oh, and it could be a problem to use the Uranium Miners for the new machine because I would have to train them in a new field of technology. Anyways, we need to see the technology for ourselves to make sure it isn’t dangerous to our clean beaches and ocean.

IC:

Iuthia is willing to agree to these terms and conditions. We ourselves have had to sign many treaties regarding technology; one such example would be the spider drones that we have bought from the Vortex Corporation. As such we understand that this technology is a little sensitive and we would suggest that you background check nations you are willing to sell the technology to…

Now all that is left is negotiating a price for the technology alone and then we can do business.

Thanks,

Erinco Thallal, head of Research Marketing

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd offers the technology alone for $6 billion. We hope that this technology will benefit you.

OOC:
I give research a chance to grow, I just don't want to get nothing out of it. That would be unfair to me and everyone who pitched in the develop it.

I specifically took this technology for it's environmental value, it doesn't destroy it. Rather, it helps it, as uranium particles become ever so present in our water due to mining and erosion.

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd offers the technology alone for $6 billion. We hope that this technology will benefit you.

Very well, we will wire you $3'000'000'000 (U.S) now and another $3'000'000'000 (U.S) upon transfer of the research information. We trade like this as standard though we could pay you differently should you require it.

Either way we wish your nation luck on future projects and thank your for this technology, we will study it the best we can to improve our own methods, should we modify the technology we will send you plans and details of how we changed it.


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OOC: Yoink! Sorry about that Iraqstan, but I liked the method and I wasn't about to hurt my brain thinking about a new one.

As the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd does not trust electronic transfer due to hackers, we have decided to fly in technicians and plans to the technology through EA-80 transport planes. They will arrive shortly.

As the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd does not trust electronic transfer due to hackers, we have decided to fly in technicians and plans to the technology through EA-80 transport planes. They will arrive shortly.

Very well, we'll reserve some room at Iuthia Prime Airfield.

Bump.

We would like to thank the Dominion of Kotterdam and the Republic of Freedom Country for thier support in this project. May the world thank you for this achievement.

Scott Haley smiled, reading this part of the announcement as his helicopter circled the shipyards refitting a number of former fishing vessels with uranium-collecting drag nets. Glancing out the window at the great undertaking, Scott set the announcement down on his lap. "Any time, my friend. Any time." he murmured softly to himself.

Turning from the window, he glanced over at his aide. "Start drafting an announcement." he ordered. "While we appreciate the credit given us by the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd, we would like to reiterate, as we have in the past, that we merely paid for part of the project and let them use our factories. It was the ingenuity and creativity of the scientists from the USSZ that has given the world this great advancement in uranium harvesting technology."

Bump.

Bump.

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Republic of Penglai is interested in this technology, but is unable to provide the full cost of the project at once. Would payment of $2B USD for 5 year be acceptable? Our interest in applying this technology to shore based desalination plants.

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd agrees to your offer, as soon as the initial transfer of money is recieved we will begin airlifting the necessary plans, equipment and training personnel.

Transfer of $2 million USD completed.

Second Transfer of Funds completed.

Mass bump.

Thanks to a remarkable economic growth rate, Penglai will be transferring the remaining $6 Billion at this time.

The Federation of Hrstrovokia is very interested in this project. We would like to buy the technology. 10,000,000,000 USDs are awaiting transferal to Zvarinograd upon confirmation of sale.