War with Setian Sebeceans
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 00:06
The peaceful nation of Krostovia is now at war with the horrible hateful nation of setian sebeceans. Krostovia would like to request support in defending all nations free in this world. Setian has descriminated against homosexuals, and though i may not agree with gays they are people nontheless and deserve to live as any other man. I plead to the nations that believe in freedom and justice. This is the same concept with anti african or latino or french remarks. Religious wise as well, catholics and muslims are under heavy beatings at this point. Why not defend people themselves. They may be gay, and though i dont like them that much, they can be productive, they can live normal lives and they deserve the same treatment as anyone else. This is for equality and peace and not a gay rights activist movement. Krostovia is simply sick of the next hitler taking form in slaughtering homosexuals. Do not let another holocost take place!
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 00:23
BUMP
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 00:23
BUMP
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:32
The great nation of Setian-Sebeceans says, "Bring it on". Command Carriers Have been mobilized and will enter Subspace soon.
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:35
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:35
Preping troops.
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:35
The Command Carrier Herizleid, WILL NOT BE CALLED BACK TO ACTIVE DUTY, it will remain on its current assignment. Marine loading up, ready to defend our rights as a people.
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 00:36
OOC: The great nation? i wouldnt go that far.......your barely older than me. Hold your tongue and think before you talk.
and I shall bring water, in the hopes that the both of you will get tired and buy water from me to quench your gladiators who are all in pointy sticks!
heheheheheh!
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>You are willing and understand then that this becomes a space RP.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:39
OOC: The great nation? i wouldnt go that far.......your barely older than me. Hold your tongue and think before you talk.
YOU DARED TO CHALLENGE US, SO SAY GOOD BYE!
Uh, SS, you're kinda godmodding I think. I could be wrong, but a nation as young as you, though you are a space nation, shouldn't yet have carriers. Just letting you know.
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>The UNSC does not have cruisers yet. We do have one flagship. Two destroyers and a fleet of frigates nothing more. Besides satillite based defenses.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:43
Uh, SS, you're kinda godmodding I think. I could be wrong, but a nation as young as you, though you are a space nation, shouldn't yet have carriers. Just letting you know.
No I started off with intermedeate space tech, so i grew.
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 00:45
Your nations are not in space........you cant possibly be that weathy at how old you are, you people are godmoding
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:46
so, K, you still up for war.
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>No we are space based nations. No one said we can't start off with space technology.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:47
Yes, UNSC, thank you.
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>Everything I have is within reasonable context.
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>You know what you two duke it out whatever.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:51
Yeah all of my command carriers are huge, but their running below minimum crew requirements, all the matenance is done by drones.
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>If you have a problem with my technology then fine. I am neutral.
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Krostovia
14-10-2003, 00:51
nations dont just spring up with rockets ready to launch into space........and back to the issue at hand, to stop you and your neo nazi friend here.
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:51
Yeah all of my command carriers are huge, but their running below minimum crew requirements, all the matenance is done by drones.
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>Are we not entitled to our opinions?
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>No one said you had to approve or disapprove us. We aren't looking for your approval.
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>Any way fine then if your think our nations are too young. We will just build off US current space technology.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:54
I'm not "neo-nazi" I'm everything hitler hated, EXECEPT IM STRIAGHT, I'm part black, have jewish blood, part hispanica, part native american, and part jipsie.
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 00:54
Opinions? Fine sure! express away my friend, but mass slaughter? Theres UN laws about that kind of thing ill have you know
Goobergunchia
14-10-2003, 00:55
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>The UNSC does not have cruisers yet. We do have one flagship. Two destroyers and a fleet of frigates nothing more. Besides satillite based defenses.
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You've been nuked out of existence. Claiming anything is a godmod IMHO.
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>Fine we will deport them. Let them be other nations problems.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:56
Opinions? Fine sure! express away my friend, but mass slaughter? Theres UN laws about that kind of thing ill have you know
FACT- I'm not part of the U.N., only part of the Coalition of Armed Powers.
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>Anyways I'm asian part Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Philipino.
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>My main part of my blood is Philipino.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 00:58
And calling me gay or a "neo-Nazi" is like calling Hillary Clinton hot.
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 00:59
Gay? i doubt anyone on this forum is and i dont think you are either but a neo nazi? yes, mass murder of a person due to sexuality? Sounds a lot like hitler slaughtering the jews id say
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>There are also UN laws preventing complete annihilation of a nation, look at Geneva Convention. Also laws against nations using WMD.
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>No actually there are gays and gay sympathizers on these forums bunch of, forget it.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 01:02
Gay? i doubt anyone on this forum is and i dont think you are either but a neo nazi? yes, mass murder of a person due to sexuality? Sounds a lot like hitler slaughtering the jews id say
Uh, I'm atleast doing the world a favor.
Goobergunchia
14-10-2003, 01:04
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>There are also UN laws preventing complete annihilation of a nation, look at Geneva Convention. Also laws against nations using WMD.
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Wrong. Please t-gram me with the name and text of an adopted resolution to that effect. The only thing that comes close is the Elimination of Bio Weapons resolution.
Lord Goobergunch, Goobergunchian President
DU Regional Delegate
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>Sebeceans stop just deport your gays to his nation. See how he likes them. Relax I'm sure they'll keep him company. BTW homosexuals have been given medication to prevent them from ever reproducing.
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Gay? i doubt anyone on this forum is and i dont think you are either but a neo nazi? yes, mass murder of a person due to sexuality? Sounds a lot like hitler slaughtering the jews id say
Uh, I'm atleast doing the world a favor.That is an opinion. You think you're doing the world a favor, but a lot of people wouldn't think so.
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>There are also UN laws preventing complete annihilation of a nation, look at Geneva Convention. Also laws against nations using WMD.
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Wrong. Please t-gram me with the name and text of an adopted resolution to that effect. The only thing that comes close is the Elimination of Bio Weapons resolution.
Lord Goobergunch, Goobergunchian President
DU Regional Delegate
He means in reality there are resolutions that do that, but this in an IC thing so those don't actually exist yet.
Goobergunchia
14-10-2003, 01:07
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>There are also UN laws preventing complete annihilation of a nation, look at Geneva Convention. Also laws against nations using WMD.
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Wrong. Please t-gram me with the name and text of an adopted resolution to that effect. The only thing that comes close is the Elimination of Bio Weapons resolution.
Lord Goobergunch, Goobergunchian President
DU Regional Delegate
He means in reality there are resolutions that do that, but this in an IC thing so those don't actually exist yet.
[ooc: I know that. But he was speaking ICly, so I responded ICly.]
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>Oh, I'm sorry I thought this game had some relation to reality.
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>If there is no relation to reality then whats the purpose of saying you can't have space tech at an early age?
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Krostovia
14-10-2003, 01:15
Space is not the big issue here, the extermination of gays like rodents is. This is wrong and saying they cant contribute to your nation is looking only population wise. They work just as any other guy and they support the economy and themselves by buying things. This is the next holocost and i urge all nations to help stop it before it gets out of hand
Because that just doesn't make sense. It takes time to acquire money and do research and build things and get enough manpower. This game is only loosly connected to the real world, but its fully connected to common sense.
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>Fine then, they will be "re-educated". Don't ask for anything else. I'm allowing them to live.
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>Common Sense?! You are letting people run around with lasers, death stars, plasma cannons. How the hell can you say common sense?
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>All Homosexuals are here-by granted free government funded re-educational classes. To recieve citizenship you must attend.
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BECAUSE THEY'RE OLDER NATIONS!
You're a few days old.
Example: Start with a few space stations.
After a few days, you could have a small, but well equipped fleet of ships depending on how big and advanced they are. You have to be sensible and declare your research somewhere and stuff like that. You have to move slowly too. That's how it works in the real world. A nation doesn't spring up with even one aircraft carrier and a population of 5-million. You have to rp this stuff.
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>Fine, btw basic plasma wouldn't last in Earth's atmoshpere thats why the plasma produced by nukes would only last a split second. BTW in a way thats totaly biased against younger nations.
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Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 01:24
he did. see "Fednews Breaking news" and read the whole thing
see hears the thread read it and weep, it has UNSC and my development in here. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78071&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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>Fine, btw basic plasma wouldn't last in Earth's atmoshpere thats why the plasma produced by nukes would only last a split second. BTW in a way thats totaly biased against younger nations.
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It is biased, but so is life. When a five year old asks for a rifle to play with...the parent will almost without a doubt say no. Is that biased against five-year olds?
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>I'm not sure though I want to count that as legitamit.
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he did. see "Fednews Breaking news" and read the whole thing I never said he didn't in the first place. The thing is a nation this young would have to take time to create stuff like that. It's part of the FAQ's, which I hope you've read.
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>Wrong my dad is an ex-marine. He taught me how to shoot almost as soon as I could lift a gun.
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>Oh I read it, unfortunately I was made into a forced evolution. Ever since one of my rivals joined the game under the name TheCovenant and attacked me.
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When a five year old asks for a rifle to play with...the parent will ALMOST WITHOUT A DOUBT say no.
There are always exceptions. Some people learn to handle guns at a young age while some people will never handle any sort of weapon throughout their entire life. The point is, life isn't fair for newer, younger people, nations, etc.
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 01:31
I learned to fly before i could walk.
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>Understood. Well technically I am another exception in the Nation States case.
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>When your environment is either harsh or forgiving you must learn how to adapt and use it to your advantage.
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Just ignore them. Everything I've been saying leads up to this: Don't go throwing your weight around when your so young. Newbie wars usually go nowhere and anything that's tried can be called godmodding unless the wars are on a small scale. Most people who war want to have large, impressive amounts of advanced troops able to fight whenever the leader has a craving for some blood. Anyways, I'm off, I've got homework to do.
I'm a newbie too (hence why I've not gotten involved) so don't think I'm being arrogant or anything like that.
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 01:35
Very true
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>Same here damned algerbra.
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Krostovia
14-10-2003, 01:37
Im glad now that you have a nation of humans rather than men and targets of flesh. I hope equality can actually take a place in your nation though with your descriminatory remarks i highly doubt it.
Im glad now that you have a nation of humans rather than men and targets of flesh. I hope equality can actually take a place in your nation though with your descriminatory remarks i highly doubt it. Try not to be so hostile. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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>Relax we've learned the errors of our ways. You know some of the re-educated ones can be quite interesting once you get know them.
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>No don't, he's right. We over looked the value of human life.
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OOC: Here's a link you guys need to check out...
What God-Moding is... FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15957)
Basically, it covers alot of the things you will need to know before you get into any conflicts... which you inevitably will with your line of thinking.
It also covers Future Tech vs. Modern Tech and so on.
He may be right, but hostility isn't needed. Well isn't this just a crap-happy love fest now?
Tradewinds
14-10-2003, 03:34
As one of the former nations of a 4 nation coalition against S-S please state the identity of your nation, Krostovia.
To S-S: Sorry but we cannot identify the nation going against you nor our relation to this nation and I don't believe we have an alliance with Krostovia at the moment.
OOC: Who is this exactly? If you're just another NS nation that dosen't know us IRL, then just ignore this. :) BTW if this is anyone I know IRL thats going against S-S...........have fun I guess.....
Another OOC: I really need to read to know whats going on here........:?
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 03:38
Krostovia, is just a n00bie nation (like me but younger) trying to pick a fight.
Another n00b war??!!! Oh hell with this... I'll obliterate both of you!
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 03:44
Noob nation? ha, why cant you just be maure like UNSC and actually understand rules and principals. Ive agreed not to go to war, read back a bit and youll actually see that i wanted these people to be treated well and in the end they are leaving no need for the conflict. Please read before you open your mouth
Psha! whatever... you both aren't worth my time. And as agreed to UNSC, I won't make myself a hypocrite.
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 03:47
What? Cima Fleet.......umm who are you? and did you even read anything weve been talking about?
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 03:48
OOC: Here's a link you guys need to check out...
What God-Moding is... FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15957)
Basically, it covers alot of the things you will need to know before you get into any conflicts... which you inevitably will with your line of thinking.
It also covers Future Tech vs. Modern Tech and so on.
Yeah i already understand these concepts, and I respect them. I just reaserch things like nations do. I keep things secret then I go public with them. I'm not godmoding, I'm adapting. I'll admit when I was one-day-old, I wanted power(face it we all do) but i didn't want to call to much attention to myself by godmoding, so i reaserched, se my story is that, my ancestors were a lost colony of anceint human known as the Atlantians (ooh!!!).
Oh, yes, I didn't tell you about the war I stopped between UNSC and SS. Anyway, UNSC came up with a proposal I supported, so I can't make myself a hypocrite by killing both of you.
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 03:51
right........so as i said before you havent read anything weve said. Thought so
Krostovia
14-10-2003, 03:55
hahaha, exactly, now that your out of the way, im going to bed, anyone who thinks slaughtering people due to sexuality is wrong feel free to post here.
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 03:58
hahaha, exactly, now that your out of the way, im going to bed, anyone who thinks slaughtering people due to sexuality is wrong feel free to post here.
"Shh!, move in quitely, shoot their president in bed. move! move! move! go! go! go!"
Nah. Ain't worth my time.
SS you just can't refrain from killin somethin can you. you know you can't take thunderstrike and these people, one at a time or yet better none yet wait, its a lot more fun to kill someone if you outnumber them 20 to 1 theirs no way for them to win. But if I were you I would not go around obliterateing everyone thats a noob when you get older. If you get in a jam I won't save your ass unless I thinks their is a good reason for it. Same goes for most of the people I know. Cima just forget it please?
Setian-Sebeceans
14-10-2003, 04:42
SS you just can't refrain from killin somethin can you. you know you can't take thunderstrike and these people, one at a time or yet better none yet wait, its a lot more fun to kill someone if you outnumber them 20 to 1 theirs no way for them to win. But if I were you I would not go around obliterateing everyone thats a noob when you get older. If you get in a jam I won't save your ass unless I thinks their is a good reason for it. Same goes for most of the people I know. Cima just forget it please?
Correction, he declared war on me for my veiws on how to treat gays in my nation.
Tradewinds
15-10-2003, 03:10
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>My main part of my blood is Philipino.
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OOC: Had that feeling you were. XD And kumusta ka to you too. :)
IC:
October 14, on a weapons warehouse in Camp Grazzi...
The president and secretary of defense are seen walking past the guards and the garage door of the warehouse, both with the same looks that they had after hearing of this conflict.
"Well here it is, Mr. President."
"Indeed, we never used this since the NATO vs. N0rth Korea (OOC: Yes with a 0) war. But I guess its time to get this moving. You ready?"
"Yes sir."
A few minutes later the two figures are seen walking out of the warehouse..................dragging two lawnchairs.
"Didn't forget the butter this time!"
"Sweet. Got the coke?"
"Hell yeah, this time we're ready to watch young nations blow the hell out of each other, just like the good ol' days!"
"I can drink to that!"
Krostovia
15-10-2003, 03:14
Pardon? Whats that? I declared war on you? ahh ahh ahh, no no. You found my opinion 'offensive' and you declared war on me through a telegram.
"I found your comments offensive i declare war on you."
SS
Setian-Sebeceans
15-10-2003, 03:20
Pardon? Whats that? I declared war on you? ahh ahh ahh, no no. You found my opinion 'offensive' and you declared war on me through a telegram.
"I found your comments offensive i declare war on you."
SS
Hey everyone don't step into the pile of BS.
I never said sutch athing you just want power.
Your nations a bunch of apes.
Krostovia
15-10-2003, 03:23
Haha, thats funny, your the one that wanted mass slaughter on humans based on their sexuality.
Setian-Sebeceans
15-10-2003, 03:25
so its my nations, so bugger off.
Krostovia
15-10-2003, 03:28
So you will murder masses of people and become the next hitler and not care about what anyone says? How noob, i think you should accept people as people and not split them down the middle into straights and targets.
Setian-Sebeceans
15-10-2003, 03:31
split them down the middle into straights and targets.
Hey good idea. Danke