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After a remarkable bit of clairvoiance (ie seeing trojan empires future tech ship) engineers have proposed a interesting design for the shore bombardment mission. Based some what on the modernised Iowa class battle ships, crookfur doctrine calls for a smaller ship perhaps meeting the criteria for a criuser class vessel.

Stats:

displacement: 20,000-25,000tons full load

Armament:

Gun:
primary:
2 turrets each with 2x 16"/60calibre guns (perhaps ETC?)
Secondary:
2-4 turrets each with 1 155 or 160mm howitzer (again ETC).
CIWS:
6x goalkeeper system

Missile:
Primary:
70-100 VLS cells (either US standard or Crookfur standard)
bombardment:
2-4x M25 MLRS systems (proposed modular system with rockets from 160- 480mm )
Anti shipping:
2x 4 tube MILO launchers
Air defence:
3-4 x 4 tube star streak launchers

Torpedeo: 1x twin tube magazine feed torpedeo launcher.

Aircraft: 3-4 medium helos.


I have a feeling that i may be overloading the design somewhat, should i be bumping it up or are there other changes to make.

I'd do at least 4 turrets. but i like overkill

make them rail guns not ETC

Give it naval railguns, theres some firepower :twisted:

Yeh, rail guns, or ETC.

Ownage :D

I would like to be part of any future project :)

Of course there is the factor that while rail guns are all nice and everything, i want o biuld this now, not in a month once i have done enough work to even consider having rail guns at all (i cosnider them just a bit too far beyond my defination of modern tech).

ETC is like a phase right now :P

Yeh. I would still like to be part :twisted:

Of course there is the factor that while rail guns are all nice and everything, i want o biuld this now, not in a month once i have done enough work to even consider having rail guns at all (i cosnider them just a bit too far beyond my defination of modern tech).
N. Railguns should be ready by 2012... they just need quite a bit of power.

I'm still not sure on them to be honest.
While they would make the range nice and long i think i'll stick with ETC for the mo. (if you want a rail gun version speak to trojan empire).



FC: if you want a part i'll let you biuld some with US or european equipment (ie Crookfur uses it's own VL system that while compatable to some degree with US ssytems has some differences).


Now engines: nuclear or some of my Alcohol turbines....

Okay doke.

I want to join in... I can provide the anti air defenses.

Well the AA defenses are mainly going to be handled by missiles from the VLS (my frigates and destroyers use a system thats basically a number wanked PAAMS/sampson from the type 45), with the Star Streak launchers providing last ditch efforts.

Interesting any idea how you canb cram al that on 20,000 tons? Also what about ASROC?

As i said it probably is a bit ambitious and end up growing and growing, and as for ASROC, thats partly why the MILOs are there, they have an anti sup model very similar to asroc.

In a change to the previous stats Crookfur designers belive they are comming closer to afinal Specification layout.


Its was decided that for the vessel to remain in the criuser classification that the primary armament of 16" ETC guns would be removed and the secondary weapons promoted to a primary role.

The primary role guns were redesigned along the lines of the US navy Advanced gun system (AGS)/ Vertical gun system (VGS) program.

Using newly developed Crookfur 160mm ETC hotizers it is estiamted that the primary guns can now with the aid of ER muntions engage targets at upto 150 nuatical miles (if the US conventional 155 AGS can reach 100nm).

With a rate of fire exceeding 15 rounds per minute the primary armamnet is judged to have suficient firepower.

It has also been judged that the main VLS level should be reduced to make room and mass availble.

So the revised Weapons load:

Gun:
Primary: 2 turrets each with 2 160mm ETC LRGs (long range guns)
Secondary:
none (although a couple of small 76mm's might be nice for that 80rpm joy)
CIWS:
6x goalkeeper (or what ever your CIWS of choice is).

Missile:
50 VLS cells (mainly self defence SAMs but a few Criuse missile can be carried).
2x M25 MLRS
2 x 4 tube MILO launcher (or harpoon or what ever your missile of choice is)
3 x 4tube Star Streak or SAM8 launcher

Tropedo:
1x twin tube magazine feed torpedo launcher.

Aicraft: 3 medium Helos or VTOLs.


Anyway a quick DOGA mock-up promo shot of the general layout:

http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/images/valkyrie.jpg


yes i'm crap with DOGA.