NationStates Jolt Archive

i would like to purchase vintage weapons and weapon systems.
the products should be from the 50´s and early 60´s.
So if you haven´t got it yet i don´t want any modern tanks or subs nor weapons and planes i want old nice american and well just abut anything. ai´t to keen on soviet stuff from the era though.

I would suggest that with a very strong economy, five hundred million plus population, and powerhouse of an arms manufacturing sector, you might do worse than to build your own armaments!

However, if technical data is a problem, it might be possible to negotiate for production rights to the Jet Fighter MkI Cricket, recently introduced into Walmingtonian service.

The aircraft is a joint venture, and is powered by Iansislian Grey-Hudson turbojet engines- their approval would be important.

The aircraft is in minimal production, and we have experienced some problems at full speed near the aircraft's ceiling, and in dives.

(ooc:In a dive it is capable of mach speed, but we yet don't understand what that is, and the tail boom needs to be reinforced, and the tail itself perhaps to be modified to prevent further problems- new engines would probably make the aircraft capable of mach speed in level flight)

JFMkI Cricket
Length:36'2"
Span:48'7
Weight:10,175 lb empty 16,250 full
Power Plant: Three Graye-Hudson Model 1,966lb thrust 3G turbojets
Top Speed: 648mph
Cruising Speed:420mph
Range:1,040miles+ at cruising speed.
Ceiling: 39,000ft
Armament: Eight 20mm aviation cannon- four in front fuselage, and four in wings

http://hometown.aol.com/waikatokiwi/myhomepage/wos_meteor.jpg

Three views of the amazing new weapon, as provided by a Calarcan draftsman

Due to the state of war, we can not export the aircraft, but might be able to negotiate sharing of production data, if you do decide against designing original aircraft yourselves.

:idea: A-4X Skyhawk II Light Attack Aircraft
http://www.netmarine.net/jeux/ident/test6/photo01.jpg
Our upgrade and re-tool of the A-4 Skyhawk has been completed and we have begun production of new A-4X Skyhawk IIs. Based on the same airframe we have made sevral improvements including the addition of a new more powerful engine, advanced avionics,a phased array radar, FLIR systems and counter measures.Also it now has one fuselage, two wingtip and four wing hard points (inboard wing hardpoint can carry double launcher for mavericks) and carries a variety of missles bombs or rockets. The aircraft also has in-flight re-fuel and carrier landing capabilties like the orignal.
http://home.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=468d3681-5e5c-428b-7c13-6d775aa85cd5&size=
Specifications
Crew: 1
Length: 45 feet
Wing Span: 26.1 feet.
Power Plant: (1) Pratt & Whitney, J-92-P-808D turbofan engine that develops 12,500 pounds of thrust
Empty weight: 10,400 pounds,
Takeoff weight: 25,000 pounds
pounds.
Service Celing: 42,000 feet,
Maximum Speed: Mach 1(empty) Mach 0.82 (loaded)
Weapons
(2) 20mm M61 Vulcan Guns w/ 700 rounds of TPM ammo
(6) Rockeye Cluster bombs or (2)1,000lb JDAM or (1)MK84 2,000lb bomb or (1) GBU-LGB 2,000lb or (1) Fuel Tank on centerline
(2) AIM-9X Sidewinder or AIM-132 ASRAAM on wingtips
(6) AGM-65 Maverick (with double rack) or (8)FIM-92 Stinger (in quad launchers) or (4) 2.75 inch HYDRA rocket pods w/18 rckts each or (4) AIM-120 under wings
Counter Measures
30 RR-129A/AL Chaff Countermeasures
16 MJU-53/B Infrared Decoy Flare
16 MJU-51/B Advanced Infrared Flare
AN/AAQ-24 DIRCM pod
AN/ALQ-178 ECM pod
ALR-56C Radar Warning Receiver
Price
$18 million
This is a great Light-Attack aircraft which is highly manevrable compared with other attack-aircraft. This comes in handy when trying to evade infared SAMs and other enemy aircraft. Also when configured in the Anti-helicopter role (8 stingers 2 sidewinders and external fuel tank) it can be quite efficent at destroying enemy helicopters. In an emergency it can be used as a fighter/interceptor to destroy incoming bombers or other attack aircraft. It is an excellent aircraft for Naval vessels because of its small size and the foldable wings.
http://www.air-and-space.com/palmdale991015/a-4%20as.jpg
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:idea: A-36B Mustang Attack Aircraft
http://home.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=2be7240f-2576-66e1-38c7-6cff480b27bc&size=
The A-36B Mustang, based on the venerable P-51 Mustang of World War II and the A-36A Mustang of Vietnam, is the new answer to the attack helicopter. It can hold more HELLFIRES then an Apache, out-manuever a Hokum and it can destroy any main battle tank at a range of up to 25 miles away. When used in the close-air support role it has been designed for, killing tanks and supressing infantry groups, it will most likely encounter enemy attack choppers. This is where the A-36 shines. Its 4 Stinger missles, 2 sidewinders and heavy machine guns shred through any attack helicopter, and since this is a great dogfighter, helicopters have no chance in out maneuvering it. It is an all new semi-monocue titanium aircraft, following the airframe of the P-51. Kevlar bonded to boron-carbide plates form additional armor around the crew and engine compartments.These are not vintage P-51s they are brand new aircraft based on the old airframes.The engines are all new, as are avionics, targeting systems, radar, laser guidance systems and counter measures.
http://www.303rdbga.com/ac-p51.jpg
Specifications
Crew: 2
Length: 32 feet
Wing Span: 37 feet
Range: 950 miles 2,500 with drop tanks
Power Plant: (1) 1,763hp Rolls-Royce Dart 510 five-bladed varible-pitch Turboprop
Service Celing: 41,000 feet,
Maximum Speed: 460mph (on a dive)
Weapons
(2) 20mm M61 Vulcan Guns w/ 500 rounds of TPM ammo each
(1) 30mm Chaingun Cannon in nose 300 rounds of TPM, DU Ammo
(2) AGM-65 Maverick on under-wing hardpoints
(2) 2.75 inch HYDRA rocket pods with 18 rockets each
(20) HELLFIRE Anti-Tank Missles on and under wings
(4) FIM-92 Stinger Anti-Air Missles
(2) AIM-9X Sidewinder or (2) AIM-132 ASRAAM on wingtips
(2) External Fuel Tanks or (2) Free Flight bombs/cluster bombs /JDAMS up to 1,000lbs
Also can carry (6) 100 pound bombs or (2) more stingers on centerline of fuselage.
Counter Measures
26 RR-129A/AL Chaff Countermeasures
30 MJU-51/B Advanced Infrared Flare
ALR-56C Radar Warning Receiver
Price
$10 million Thats $6 million less then an AH-64 Apache and this does more!!!
http://www.fshangar.com/images/a36a.jpg
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Helicopters
:idea: AH-3 Viper Light Attack Helicopter
http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=33206eb0-d5bf-5c9e-a0b6-44371d963bc9
The all new AH-3 compact helicopter, is cheap, small, easy to maintain and store and only requires one pilot. The wheel struts, which hold most of the weapons, can fully fold against the side of the chopper.The tail boom, is telescoping and can be collapsed into the fusealge. The entire rotor assembly can be removed or folded in half. The idea for the AH-3 is to provide a cheap, rugged and small helicopter that could be; paradropped with paratroopers, towed behind a hummvee and small enough to carry inside other helicopters. The primary funtion is to provide a quick airborne anti-tank missile platform and for quick air cover to convoys, armor groups and infantry. It can be totaly self-sufficent in the field refueling, and rearming from ground vehicles. The AH-3 provides instant high ground for an infantry commander and the NV/IR camera in the nose feeds to the helmet mounted display as well as a hand held video display for the ground commander to view the situation in the field.
Because of its low cost, its a great helicopter for newer nations, but it still has a use in modern, technolgicly advanced armies. This is not meant to do the job of the AH-64, but instead it fills a new role that has yet to be filled. One last note, because there is only a pilot and no weapons operator, the guns are only slightly movable, the aircraft must turn to fire its guns.. However this creates an advantage: the aircraft must be always on the move, never taking time to hover and let the cannon rotate and then fire, this reduces the amount of time its exposed to hostile fire.
Specifications
Crew: 1
Length: 14.3 feet
Height: 10.1 feet
Range: 120 miles(190 with fuel tanks in place of rockets)
Power Plant: (1) P & D G20-CP-15 Gas Turbine
Service Celing: 9,600 feet,
Maximum Speed: 120mph
Weapons
(1) 40mm MK-109 Grenade MG with 250 grenades
(1) 25mm bushmaster cannon w/ 480 rounds of TPM, DU Ammo
(36) 2.75inch M261 Hydra anti-armor/anti-air/anti-personnel rockets.
(6) AGM-114 Hellfire/TOW/HOT or AT-6 anti-tank missiles missiles.
(2) FIM-92 Stingers
(1) 100-200lb convetional, napalm or cluster bombs under fuselage.
Price
$600,000
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:idea: AH-1A1 SuperCobra II
http://army.tom.com/img/assets/1/ia_20.jpg
The TPM version of the AH-1A1 is a improved version of the AH-1Z/AH-1A1 SuperSeaCobra. Some of the improvements include the addition of 6 hardpoints as opposed to the original 4 and 2 wingtip racks. Each of the 4 inner hard points can carry 1 large missle (like the harpoon or maverick ) or up to 8 smaller missiles (such as the Hellfire or stinger) the outer wing hard point can carry 1 hellfire or 7 hydra rockerts each, and the wingtip racks can hold 1 sidewinder or 2 stinger missiles. It is also much faster becasue of the rear ducted tail fan which provides extra speed. It is an excellent aircraft to base off of ships for supporting marine or special operations because of its small foot print and foldable rotor blades. While it is based on the AH-1Z (seen here)
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/supcobra/images/cobra10.jpg
it is much faster and can carry more weapons due to the uprated TPM engines and longer, sturdier wings. It also has a longer range and increased surviviabilty.
Specifications
Crew: (2)
(2) PD-J87 turbofan Engines w/ upward ducted exhast
to reduce IR signature
(4) Composite Rotor blades (foldable)
Ultra-Quiet Rear facing ducted tail fan.
Top speed: 250mph
Armament
(1) M197 25mm 3 barrel rotary Cannon
<wingtip rack capacity (2 racks)>
(4) Stinger missiles -OR-
(2) Sidewinder missiles -OR-
(2) Sidearm anti-radar missiles.
<underwing rack capicty (6 racks)>
(18} AGM-114 Hellfires
(86) M261 Hydra Rockets mounted
(4 racks can hold either 4 hellfire or 18 rockets and the outer 2 can carry 1 hellfire or 7 hydras, the inner 4 can take the below large weapons)
-OR- (4) Maverick Anti-tank missles
-OR- (4) Harpoon anti-ship missiles
-OR- (4) Penguin Anti-ship missles
-OR- (4) MK46 or Shkvall Torpedos
Additional rockets and/or TOW/HOT Missles may be mounted on the skids (2 missiles or 14 rockets total)
Electronics/CM
25 Chaff in ALD/45 Dispenser
40 Advanced IR Decoy Flare
AN/APAS FLIR System in nose
AN/COD Nightvision/Lowlight Targeting Array in nose
AN/PAQs PAVE LOW Laser Target Designator in nose
Price
$12 million
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:idea: MH/UH-1A1 Super Huey Assault/Utility Helicopter
http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=71921d81-16b5-2822-1731-29f85c4828cc&size=
We have developed a new advanced Helicopter which equals or surpasses the UH-60 BlackHawk and the MH-60 PaveHawk in performance. The UH-1A1 is obviously based on the venerable UH-1N Huey. Modern Huey variants are good, but they aren't able to fufill the role of the modern assualt chopper. This Super Huey has been lengthed by sevral feet, and it has been equipped with a fully updated electronics package, advanced avionics(including terrain following and avoidance radar, targeting systems, laser guidance systems and counter measures. The targeting systems come in handy when it uses its 25mm 3 barrel cannon(from the latest super cobra) which is mounted along with a MK-109 Grenade Machine Gun and Halogen Searchlight in a turret derived from the early HueyCobras. Standard on the Super Huey are 14 2.75inch folding fin rockets. Also standard are 2 .50 cal machineguns mounted behind a protected door which uses armor slits instead of glass to protect the gunner from shrapnel. For the 14 paratroopers that it can hold there is mounting for 2 M-240B 7.62mm machine guns as well. There are 3 reels and 1 600lb capacity winch mounted on the sides of the fuselage and also a cargo net to provide easy egress for air assualt operations such as rappeling or fast roping. the winch can be used for para rescue operations as well. Also it has 4 composite rotorblades and a fully encased tail rotor for quieter operation. The fuselage allowed for longer thus more powerful engines and with re-fueling probe it has an in-flight refuel capability.
http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=4bfa5016-4a6d-32fd-47b9-21264b8b14d8&size=
Specifications
Crew: 2 officer, 2 enlisted + up to 14 troops.
Length: 63.3 feet
Height: 14.9 feet
Range: 200 miles
Power Plant: (2) Pratt & Whitney T400-CP-401
Service Celing: 14,000 feet,
Maximum Speed: 150mph
Weapons
Standard
(1) 40mm MK-109 Grenade machine gun 60 RPM with 200 grenades in nose turret
(1) 25mm 3 Barrel Gatling Cannon in nose turret w/ 500 rounds of TPM, DU Ammo
(2) 12.7mm (.50 cal) GAU-16 Machine guns with 400 rounds each in door mounts(crew served)
(2) 7.62mm M-240B Machine guns hung on celing mounts in back door.(paratrooper served)
(14) 2.75inch Hydra anti-armor anti-air or anti-personnel rockets.
Potential
(8} Hellfires on pylons attached to skids
(2) Stingers on side of roof pylons
(4-6) 100-200lb convetional, napalm or cluster bombs under fuselage.
Price
$7 million
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>F-106 Delta Dart= $3.2 million
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:56dC3EzPZw4C:www.military.cz/usa/air/post_war/f106/pics/f106inflb.jpg
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>F-4 Phantom II= $9 million
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-4-phantom1-s.jpg
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> F-5E Tiger II = $5 million
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/f-5e-DF-ST-82-06288-s.jpg
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> A-4 Skyhawk = $4.6 million
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/a-4m-dnst8911142_jpg-s.jpg
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> A-7 Corsair II = $8.4 million
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/a-7-dvic154-s.jpg
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>B-52 Stratofortress = $52million
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b52_33s.jpg
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>F-4G Advanced Wild Weasel = $18.4 million
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f4_2s.jpg
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>C-141B Starlifter= $71.4 million
http://www.military.com/Data/EQG/c141_large.jpg
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>C-5 Galaxy= $163.4 million
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-5s.jpg
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>T-38 Talon = $800,000
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/t-38-199905172ship-s.jpg

Walmington on Sea your idea seems to be the most logical when it comes to both economy and production, Iwould also be pleased to get hand on the production rights for the "Cricket" or just buy a moderate amount of them to use as interceptors.

After some consideration, it seems reasonable for Walmington to produce a small number of aircraft and to ship them at least near completion. These would perhaps amount to about two or three squadrons, and with training, spare parts, and shipment, should kick start your nation's modern aviation defence concern.

There after, it is likely that you should wish to greatly increase the numbers of interceptors available to you- sadly due to our state of war (on Der Kriegsmarine, Ercolana, Chiang Mai, and Italy) further delivery will likely be impossible. Production data can be shared, assuming you have the means to put such aircraft into manufacture, however the engines' design is not property of the Walmingtonian government. There for your nation would need either to design its own engines for your production models, or else contact the government of Iansisle (or more likely Graye-Hudson in that nation).

For the initial aircraft which we hope to deliver, a per-unit price of sixty-eight thousand Walmingtonain pounds is sought (W£1=US$4, so $272,000 per aircraft).

We await your specific order, bearing in mind that we can probably only provide a very few squadrons directly.

Productions rights to be negotiated if you are still interested, in light of complications over engine rights.

-G.Cuthbert, Board Rep. Wychwood Automation, for the office of Air Marshal William Pertwee, Walmington on Sea.

M48 Patton
Main gun: 90mm or 105mm
Secondary guns: (1) .50 cal M2 Machine gun and (1) 7.62mm M60 Machine gun
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m48a5-1.gif
Weight: 52 tons
Range: 258 miles / 463 km
Top speed: 40 mph / 48 km/h
Crew: 4 (gunner, loader, driver, commander)
$500,000 (90mm)
$580,000 (105mm)

M-3 "Grease Gun" Sub-Machine Gun
http://world.guns.ru/smg/m3.jpg
Caliber .45
Magazine: 30 rounds
Rate of Fire: 450 rpm
$200