NationStates Jolt Archive

New weapons offerings from the leading arms development nation, Mokoville!

First up are the initial offerings from the new arms corporation, Lao Zing Ordnance!

The LZO-Z11 EM submachinegun
http://kthulhu5000.home.comcast.net/laozing-z11.jpg

Mokoville Arms Review says:

"The Z11 represents a conceptual advance (a submachine gun in 8mm Electromagnetic caliber), but its implementation leaves something to be desired. Range tests suggest a lethal weapon inside, but its poor ergonomics, light weight, and low quality construction make for a less than impressive arm, overall. Perhaps another trip to the drawing board, some more testing, and a little more QC, and Lao Zing will have a winner."

The LZO-CC1 Combat Carbine
http://kthulhu5000.home.comcast.net/laozing-cc1.jpg

Longarm Dealer's Index says:

"A cheap weapon, good for plinking and not much else. It's accuracy and 6mm Zipper caliber leaves something to be desired."

The LZ-47 Assault Rifle
http://kthulhu5000.home.comcast.net/laozing-ak47.jpg

Mokoville Arms Review says:

"Quite simply, the best, most accurate, most controllable AK-47 we've ever handled or fired."

COMING SOON! Lao Zing Caseless Police Carbine!

http://kthulhu5000.home.comcast.net/lao-zing-cps.jpg

And finally, the latest weapon from Mokoville Arms Works...

Announcing the MAW C.I.A.W.S (Caseless Infantry Assault Weapons System)
http://kthulhu5000.home.comcast.net/maw-c6-ciaws.jpg

"The CIAWS is MAW's next step in the quest for the perfect infantry rifle. Operating with the revolutionary concept of "caseless ammunition", and the bottlenecking extraction process such ammo eliminates, the CIAWS achieves the highest rate of fire yet, beating out all other Mokoville rifles, and many, if not all, of the world's infantry rifles.

The CIAWS is no slouch when it comes to effectiveness, though! Firing the 6.2x23 caseless caliber, and utilizing a special rocket grade propellant, it achieves velocities and damage slightly above the common 5.56mm rifle round - while still maintain a lower recoil and a higher ROF than a conventional rifle, allowing for quick, accurate, multi shot placement."

"Another CIAWS advantage is ammo loadout. The CIAWS magazines utilize a patented triple feed system, increasing ammo capacity to 51 rounds, while still weighing 60% less than a 30 round 5.56mm magazine.

The CIAWS is expected to cost $5,000 per unit, going down to $3,000 when mass production kicks in, and $2,000 (or less) on large contracts."

"Future plans include an explosives delivery system, a belt fed configuration, dual magazine feeding, and shorter, more compact versions, in addition to stronger calibers of caseless ammo."

Version two of the CIAWS has been developed!

http://kthulhu5000.home.comcast.net/maw-c6-ciaws-m2.jpg

New features: lighter weight (9 pounds), tighter, easier to handle frame, rubber foregrips.

Questions, comments, orders?

The King requires the following goods:

MAW C.I.A.W.S x 150,000
LZO-Z11 EM x 1,000,000
LZO-CC1 x 250,000

Please respond with costs.

No prices for most of the weapons :roll:

Well, make an offer. The price varies, depending on economies of scale.

OOC:
It shares some similarities with the PSG-1 semi-automatic sniper rifle in form. Looks as heavy as well which should be around 17.81 lbs (8.10kg), damn heavy to carry around. If you can, reduce the weight.
http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/psg1.jpg

The King requires the following goods:

MAW C.I.A.W.S x 150,000

That's $450,000,000.

LZO-Z11 EM x 1,000,000

A mass order of that size wil drive the price down to $400 per unit. That's $400,000,000.

LZO-CC1 x 250,000

A conventional arm, easy to stamp out and make. $250 per unit. That's a total of $62,500,000.

Your total is $912,500,000. Another $1,000,000 for shipping brings it to $913,500,000.

Very well. Money wired.

OOC:
It shares some similarities with the PSG-1 semi-automatic sniper rifle in form. Looks as heavy as well which should be around 17.81 lbs (8.10kg), damn heavy to carry around. If you can, reduce the weight.
http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/psg1.jpg

It's mainly made out of plastic polymer, with light ceramic plating in some sections to protect it from generated heat. It weighs about 12 pounds, which, while not lightweight, isn't necessarily an anchor. Don't forget, too, that this is "version one", and, while operable, is designed for feedback. Ways to refine and lighten the design are being looked at, definitely.

Any more interested buyers?

Very well. Money wired.

Items shipped.

$3000 is way too much for a carbine. overhead magazine is a bad design.
What else do you have?

How much for rights to produce MAW C.I.A.W.S', I would of course never sell the rights to any other nation or trade these weapons off, just for my own military.

$3000 is way too much for a carbine. overhead magazine is a bad design.
What else do you have?

There are our conventional weapons offerings...

http://www.geocities.com/pc_eat_mac/mawe14.html

$3000 for a new rifle design, with newer technology, isn't that bad, especially when the price is expected to drop, should demand be high enough.

The top feed magazine is a neutral design at worst, in our opinion. We find that ammo feeding seems more reliable working with gravity, as opposed to against it. Additionally, reloading the rifle seems to be faster and easier with a top feed - a soldier at night can trace the top of the rifle for the magazine slot, rather than fumbling for a bottom feed slot. In combat, the soldier can also aim the rifle down (and not have to fumble and fight the weight) and load in a magazine faster.

While we respectfully disagree with your comments, all input is appreciated.

How much for rights to produce MAW C.I.A.W.S', I would of course never sell the rights to any other nation or trade these weapons off, just for my own military.

Since your nation seems to agree with our political ideals, we would be willing to license the plans for $7.5 million. This includes rifle and ammo details, and machinery.

How much for rights to produce MAW C.I.A.W.S', I would of course never sell the rights to any other nation or trade these weapons off, just for my own military.

Since your nation seems to agree with our political ideals, we would be willing to license the plans for $7.5 million. This includes rifle and ammo details, and machinery.

Ah very good *money wired*, we will begin to contract some of our arms companies to begin manufacturing once the plans arrive. And in the event you become swamped with orders for it, feel free to contact us to help in production.

Done. Expect delivery within a day. Share any interesting modifications you may add.

But when said soldier tries to fire from defilade, the magazine sticking out will give his position away. Remember, when firing a rifle it is held at the shoulder which means that the offhand is held under the stock. So i disagree with the faster reload theory.
Spring-loaded(bottom feed) mags can be a problem(overload, spring wear) so i may be willing to give this design a try. A few changes could make this better.OOC:take a look at the p90 and the H11
I am interested in your other wares, will have to get back to you on that.
OOC:those prices!! a barrett is only 7300, m240? 6600