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When seawater evaporates, many kinds of salts remains. We know that there is only one uranium particle in 34 million other element particles. For this reason, the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd's scientists and technicians have begun researching on uranium recovery from seawater to find the most effective technology. We chose a chemical fanction of amidoxime as the uranium adsorbent. Amidoxime reacts with uranium and is used as an analytical indicator for the element. Using radiation, the method for introducing the amidoxime group onto a nonwaver materials was made into hypothesis.

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Rivers bring more uranium into the sea all the time, in fact 3.2x10^4 tonnes per year. We could take 16,000 tonnes per year of uranium from seawater, which would supply 25 times the world's present electricity usage and twice the world's present total energy consumption. Head researcher Valkov argues that given the geological cycles of erosion, subduction and uplift, the supply would last for 5 billion years with a withdrawal rate of 6,500 tonnes per year. The crust contains 6.5x10^13 tonnes of uranium. He says that lasting 5 billion years, i.e. longer than the sun will support life on Earth, should cause uranium to be considered a renewable resource. (However, other researchers comment that he neglected the fact that uranium has a half-life of 4.46 billion years, about half will have decayed by his postulated 5 billion years.)

We have begun research, backed up by Kotterdam's support. Expected project completion date will be 5 years. (5 real life days)

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What do you think?

Or you could simply buy some from us...

Pointy Rocks
VP-Public Relations
Grotian Mining Guild

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:|

Tell me, why do you have to deliberately advertise on my thread?

OOC: Allow me to say simply kudos! This has to be one of the most imaginative projects I have seen proposed. :D Not that I read all the research threads, though. Still... Kudos!

IC:
The Dominion of Kotterdam would like to express an interest in this project and in providing the help mentioned at the end of your proposal. What, exactly, would your country require to make this dream a reality?

Rt. Hon. Scott Haley
Prime Minister
Dominion of Kotterdam

Our researchers need a polyethelene manufacturing plant fully staffed by workers and technicians to extract the amidoxime fibres for testing, as well as the $38 billion required to be able to continue the project. (We have already provided $12 billion from weapons sales and our research budget from the government.)

Dr. Sergei Valkov, Head Researcher and Advisor to the Premier
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

Well, the plant at Timothy's Point ought to handle your needs nicely. As for the $38 billion, we have had some success lately with sales of military hardware, and I have been informed that the Prime Minister has authorized the transfer of those funds to this project. The Dominion Research Establishment for Advancement and Modernization would be happy to foot the bill for the remaining research.

Doctor Erin Weingate
Director, DREAM
Dominion of Kotterdam

OOC: Sorry about the ridiculous-sounding name. I couldn't resist naming my R&D establishment DREAM. :roll:

Excellent, in return the Premier has decided to allow you full rights to the technology as well as a gift, the first 100 tons of Uranium to be mined. We hope to be able to finish this project soon.

Dr. Sergei Valkov, Head Researcher and Advisor to the Premier
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

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It's not that bad a pun. Trust me, I've seen worse.

Doctor Valkov, your country's generosity has earned it a friend in Kotterdam. We look forward to seeing the results of your research. Kindly pass my thanks on to your Premier for his most wonderful gift.

Rt. Hon. Scott Haley
Prime Minister
Dominion of Kotterdam

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It's not that bad a pun. Trust me, I've seen worse.

OOC: Well, I'm rapidly making more than my share

Kotterdam Internal Security Service - KISS
Dominion of Kotterdam Naval Research and Development - DOKNRD (Slang Term: "Dock Nerds")

And now DREAM. :roll:

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Bump for comments.

A thought: Perhaps a fish net style collection system to be dragged behind a ship to allow it to canvas a wider area? The towed system could have a web wide enough to allow fish to pass through and still functon effectively.

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Brilliant idea, why didn't I think of that? *smacks head* :lol:

Well the real reason is that I didn't expect my workforce to manufacture and maintain such a large net.

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Bump.

Well, the Revalian government tries to keep its hands out of economics as much as possible.

However, the largest Revalian-based energy company, the Electrodyne Corporation (responsible for ¤24 billion CRS ($12 billion USD) per annum of the domestic electricity market, or 60% market share, and double that in investments abroad), is willing to contribute $10 billion USD in exchange for all usage rights, in perpetuity, to the uranium-harvesting technology.

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd will consider your offer. The Premier, as of the moment, is busy in other affairs. We hope you understand.

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I'm a bit distracted by a lot of emails (as well as deleting spam). After I read through all of this, I'll think your offer over.

(OOC: I have but two things to say: "Sweet", and "you're obviously doing better than most".)

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd has decided to refer your (Electrodyne Corporation) order for the technology to the Dominion of Kotterdam. He is given as equal rights to this project as we are. That will be all.

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Back.

(OOC: I have but two things to say: "Sweet", and "you're obviously doing better than most".)

Thanks, I've been in the research and development buisiness for a while now. I have developed the AZS-1 Heavy Artillery, AZ-SMF-02 "Deux Ex Machina" Air Superiority Fighter and AZ-CMT III lightweight composite armor (null-radar) from my own funding and foreign research grants. I can't do this without all the kind people who help though. :D

OOC: We will fund your project, but we do want an little share in the company.

20% is enough. :)

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Sorry, Kotterdam just supplied the rest of the funds required for this project. Maybe on my next project you can help. :)

Well, the Revalian government tries to keep its hands out of economics as much as possible.

However, the largest Revalian-based energy company, the Electrodyne Corporation (responsible for ¤24 billion CRS ($12 billion USD) per annum of the domestic electricity market, or 60% market share, and double that in investments abroad), is willing to contribute $10 billion USD in exchange for all usage rights, in perpetuity, to the uranium-harvesting technology.

My nation is hardly adverse to this proposal, but under the following conditions.

1) In exchange for a sum equivalent to ten (10) billion United States Dollars, payable entirely to the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd, the Electrodyne Corporation would recieve rights, in perpetuity, to construct, maintain, and operate uranium-harvesting plants the likes of which will be designed by this project.

2) This contract in no way, shape, or form denotes the transfer of sale, modification, or patent rights to the aformentioned party. Any modifications made to the design of the uranium-harvester are the property of the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd. No resale of this technology to a third party will be permitted.

3) All uranium harvested by the uranium harvesting technology is the property of the harvester. Neither the Dominion of Kotterdam, nor the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd makes any claim, express or implied, to ownership of the harvested uranium.

4) Breach of this contract by any of the involved parties shall be punishable by measures beginning with, but not limited to monetary fines.

Or you could simply buy some from us...

Pointy Rocks
VP-Public Relations
Grotian Mining Guild
ill buy sum please

OOC: Not on this thread you won't. Kindly take your transaction elsewhere.

The Electrodyne Corporation gladly accepts the kind offer of Kotterdam. A pleasure doing business with you.

I would like to be part, if a small part.

Maybe a bit of building?

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd's engineers will greatly benefit from formal training in the construction of artificial "islands" and "land" platforms, we dare not waste more money on failures of such.

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Bump for FC.

We accept. We wish to help with the supply of decent materials, building of the thing, and upkeep of it.

We accept the training proposal, and will send a team of engineers as soon as construction begins.

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Bump.

Mmm.. looks like it's sea platform season today.

Bump.

OOC: As much as you want your post to flow and be posted in, self-bumps are just a little sad...

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Out of open-mindedness for comments and boredom. Question first the meaning before making assumptions.

OOC: Oh believe me I know why you did it - I'm tempted to bump my post about the sales of DU-wielding combat helicopters but no one wants to buy them *Sigh*

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That's because you do not have sufficient funds and manpower to develop and manufacture that, yet. They don't believe in you as you are a day old, your country is small. People in this game have a bit of a longer time sense than most. Either you wait a month for your country to develop or ask for help like I do.

OOC: And if your projects are as well-thought out as his are, you'll get that help

OOC: Bump for Zvarinograd. This truly is a brilliant idea.

Initial tests are successful. The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd's researchers rejoice as the first uranium in yellow cake form as been extracted directly using the proposed amidoxime adsorbent material. From this form, the uranium can be directly purified using conventional methods into use.

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Uranium, yellow cake

Experimental results also show that vanadium in seawater can be recovered by using the same absorbent and its quantity is nearly twice that of uranium. The need for vanadium is expected to increase in the future as a substitute for titanium owing to its properties of great stability at high temperature and excellent corrosion resistance. However vanadium is only currently mined in the Republic of Kazakhstan and in South Africa. This rare metal can be easily extracted from seawater. Moreover, other useful elements such as cobalt, titanium, molybdenum, etc. can be recovered as well. All of this means that The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd (and it's affiliate countries, as well as those that purchased this technology) will gain the potential to produce these resources at an astonishing rate. Based on the outcome of this initial experiment, research on a large-scale demonstration plant is under way this fiscal year.

Bump.

Bump.

Pwnica would like to congratulate the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd for their success in this project, and we hope that this success will continue without complications.

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0wNa63.
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Sorry, just woke up.

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Thanks. :D

I aim to show NationStates that newbies can be capable of doing great feats without godmodding.

Very well presented. We are impressed.

However, we question the speed with which one can harvest one particle out of 34 million. Even the process of retrieving gold from ore translates to 2000 tons for every ounce of pure product.

We do not question the success of your project. We applaud your ingenuity. We merely question how you can produce enough material to justify the cost of the process.

True, however the amidoxime fanction is as equally small compared to our standards.

Here's an example of how our technology works.
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Now let us take it on a larger scale, an artificial platform several miles wide and long has an equally large net reaching a greater sum of miles deep below it harvests uranium on a current. The result can easily match up to expectations.

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Plus, this is an obsolete topic.

Also, thanks to the size of the platform, the platform need not be devoted entirely to the reclamation of uranium, although a great ammount of its surface area likely would be. Build one of these off your shore, place a few apartment buildings on top, some businesses... Bang! Instant city, and with a local industry, no less: Collecting uranium.