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Deca System

http://retromud.org/images/planets.jpg

This system was dicovered on a normal trade route from the Deneb System and The Sol System. Four cargo and two fighters were on a trade route when they witnessed a supernova lightup the nightsky and in the backround they saw a cluster of planets. They discovered one sun, the dead supernova and six planets.

Stars:

1.67x Mass of Sol Sun - Nicknamed Sonsa -

Planets:

2.54 Size of Earth - Nicknnamed Terra -
7.54 Size of Jupiter
9.54 Size of Saturn
2.12 Size of Earth - Nicknnamed Ghia -
5.54x Size of Mercury
.98x Size of Venus

The Lands of Ages Spacecorp has sent one coloney ship with 45.5 Million people and our defence fleet have been sent to The Deca System. We warn nobody to enter the system until we have everything explored. 150 G.O.D systems have been set up around the system.

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/loasig.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78028)

Umm lol I hope that system isn't actually NEAR the site of the supernova :)

No It Behind it Far Away :? :D

Ok, then delete the part about there being a NEUTRON STAR IN THE SYSTEM!!!!!! :) Unless of course your civ likes being irradiated while living on unihabitable planets :)

OOC: Excuse me, LOA, aren't you meant to be a smoking crater bombed out? How did you manage to scrap up 45 MILLION people and enough resources to get them there, a survey team AND all the defense sats? Not that I'm against you, I'm just asking. :shock:

OOC: Excuse me, LOA, aren't you meant to be a smoking crater bombed out? How did you manage to scrap up 45 MILLION people and enough resources to get them there, a survey team AND all the defense sats? Not that I'm against you, I'm just asking. :shock:They bombed his Earth nation....

i discovered that system months ago

Dictator
The Red Bat
Dragonia

Yep what raysia said

i discovered that system months ago

Dictator
The Red Bat
Dragonia

haha :lol:

And another comment, supernovas don't exactly... light up the "night sky". For one thing, there is no "night" in space. Secondly, they don't just light it up, they tend to... totally annihilate everything nearby. How far away were these planets that you were able to notice them behind the extremely large and prolonged cosmic explosion? Supernovas don't just vanish after they explode.

This happened along time ago and they were 8 Million Lightyears away!
And its a nuetron star now!

Regardless, you're still bombarded by radiation from the neutron star. Plus having 6 planets revolving around a star that's 41.67x the size of sol?! Even if a planet managed to orbit around it far enough where the sunny side wouldn't burst into flames, the dark side would freeze over.

Regardless, you're still bombarded by radiation from the neutron star. Plus having 6 planets revolving around a star that's 41.67x the mass not size it has lots of fuel :lol: of sol?! Even if a planet managed to orbit around it far enough where the sunny side wouldn't burst into flames, the dark side would freeze over.

Wow, thats really far out there. Considering the Milky Way is only 100,000 ly across.

Yeah, I would also like to know how the whole 8 million lightyears thing worked. Even if you were able to travel 1 million times the speed of light, which is not only impossible but outright godmodding, you wouldn't have found the system for 8 years.

Also, if you have 40x the mass of Sol, in something the size of Sol, you will also have a boatload of radiation coming from that as well. And it would be extremley unstable. Plus the planets would never rotate, the same side would face the star constantly, provided you could get a stable orbit in the first place.

Enjoy your death trap.

hmmm *chooses not to complain of godmoding due to my system's location and irregularity* Nice system LoA :D

hmm ok sorry i'll change it :wink:

No It Behind it Far Away :? :D

how can u be behind something in space? its all relatiove, if u like at the dark of the moon, thats the back. but if your on mars, looking at the moon
the light side, is the black side, i mean the back side.

and line backer and stuffs im selling ships, i have many ships, come to my system, let me demonstrate their power!

-EVIL DARTH EMPEROR DARTH REVAN

Yeah, I would also like to know how the whole 8 million lightyears thing worked. Even if you were able to travel 1 million times the speed of light, which is not only impossible but outright godmodding, you wouldn't have found the system for 8 years.

Also, if you have 40x the mass of Sol, in something the size of Sol, you will also have a boatload of radiation coming from that as well. And it would be extremley unstable. Plus the planets would never rotate, the same side would face the star constantly, provided you could get a stable orbit in the first place.

Enjoy your death trap.

actually warp speed functions, in exponents, ie: warp 1(impulse power) is 1 time the speed o light
warp 2 in 4x speed o light 2^2
warp 3= 3^3 (27)
warp 4=4^4 64
warp9 9^9 9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9=387,420,489 times the speed of light



and stuff

ok ok i'm confused :?

Yeah, I would also like to know how the whole 8 million lightyears thing worked. Even if you were able to travel 1 million times the speed of light, which is not only impossible but outright godmodding, you wouldn't have found the system for 8 years.

Also, if you have 40x the mass of Sol, in something the size of Sol, you will also have a boatload of radiation coming from that as well. And it would be extremley unstable. Plus the planets would never rotate, the same side would face the star constantly, provided you could get a stable orbit in the first place.

Enjoy your death trap.

actually warp speed functions, in exponents, ie: warp 1(impulse power) is 1 time the speed o light
warp 2 in 4x speed o light 2^2
warp 3= 3^3 (27)
warp 4=4^4 64
warp9 9^9 9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9=387,420,489 times the speed of light



and stuff

This whole "warp" thing, it's science fiction. You can't go faster than the speed of light.

Impulse power is less than Warp one, except on the B'rel and various other useless craft in Star Trek, which has no warp drive, but can reach the equivalent of warp 3 or so with its impulse, and Warp 1 does not equal one time the speed of light, its a little different, but I can't remember what it is exactly (anyone who would like to debate this, unless you are a harder-hardcore trekkie/trekker than me) no, just no.

The B'rel has a warp drive, it just can't go very fast.

And according to my TNG tech manual, the warp/multiple of speed of light is:

Warp 1 = 1 Cochrane (times the speed of light
2=10
3=39
4=102
5=214
6=392
7=656
8=1024
9=1516
9.9, from memory is 305X or something.....

Yeah, I would also like to know how the whole 8 million lightyears thing worked. Even if you were able to travel 1 million times the speed of light, which is not only impossible but outright godmodding, you wouldn't have found the system for 8 years.

Also, if you have 40x the mass of Sol, in something the size of Sol, you will also have a boatload of radiation coming from that as well. And it would be extremley unstable. Plus the planets would never rotate, the same side would face the star constantly, provided you could get a stable orbit in the first place.

Enjoy your death trap.

actually warp speed functions, in exponents, ie: warp 1(impulse power) is 1 time the speed o light
warp 2 in 4x speed o light 2^2
warp 3= 3^3 (27)
warp 4=4^4 64
warp9 9^9 9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9=387,420,489 times the speed of light



and stuffthat system is only in TOS... In TNG+ Warp speed is on a scale from 1 to 10 on a curve with 10 being the asymptote (infinity)

Yeah, I would also like to know how the whole 8 million lightyears thing worked. Even if you were able to travel 1 million times the speed of light, which is not only impossible but outright godmodding, you wouldn't have found the system for 8 years.

Also, if you have 40x the mass of Sol, in something the size of Sol, you will also have a boatload of radiation coming from that as well. And it would be extremley unstable. Plus the planets would never rotate, the same side would face the star constantly, provided you could get a stable orbit in the first place.

Enjoy your death trap.

actually warp speed functions, in exponents, ie: warp 1(impulse power) is 1 time the speed o light
warp 2 in 4x speed o light 2^2
warp 3= 3^3 (27)
warp 4=4^4 64
warp9 9^9 9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9=387,420,489 times the speed of light



and stuffthat system is only in TOS... In TNG+ Warp speed is on a scale from 1 to 10 on a curve with 10 being the asymptote (infinity)

And it should also be noted the old TOS scale is light speed = Warp speed cubed. Which means:

Warp 1 =1³=1 times the speed of light
2 = 2³=8
3 = 3³ = 27
etc

nonono... the pre-TOS b'rel had no warp drive, since TOS, it has had one... pre-TOS it had a super-powerful impulse.

And, I think you've got the warp 9.9 right there... that sounds about right.

The TOS B'rel is non canon, not to mention the fact I've never heard of it once. :roll:

And that myth about the old Romulan BoP having no warp, just "simple impulse", that's a half lie. Their POWER SOURCE is "simple impulse", but that doesn't mean they don't have warp drive. :wink:

OOC: How do you have a simple impulse power system?

The answer: Bad Writing.

Impulse is a propulsion system - powered by a fusion torus in most ST ships. You could have the same fusion power a slow warp drive, or a warp drive on a small starship.

Don't take every word in every book as canon. Some of the nitpicks people have with ST is literary license, and some is hyperbole, and some is just lack of common sense or failure to do research. Don't let that ruin the series, just be willing to apply common sense.

Yeah, I would also like to know how the whole 8 million lightyears thing worked. Even if you were able to travel 1 million times the speed of light, which is not only impossible but outright godmodding, you wouldn't have found the system for 8 years.

Also, if you have 40x the mass of Sol, in something the size of Sol, you will also have a boatload of radiation coming from that as well. And it would be extremley unstable. Plus the planets would never rotate, the same side would face the star constantly, provided you could get a stable orbit in the first place.

Enjoy your death trap.

actually warp speed functions, in exponents, ie: warp 1(impulse power) is 1 time the speed o light
warp 2 in 4x speed o light 2^2
warp 3= 3^3 (27)
warp 4=4^4 64
warp9 9^9 9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9=387,420,489 times the speed of light



and stuff

OCC:
All I know for sure is that in Star Trek the Movie the Enterprise took
1.8 hrs to travel from Earth to the edge of the Sol System at .5 Warp
or Impulse 5, how far is that, how fast is that? Do we have any
Math Majors here?

bump

OOC: Easy math there - It's 304 lm from Earth to Pluto. 1.8 hrs (108 minutes) is the established time, so 304/108=2.8. Numbers are not exact, but it wasn't travelling even close to sublight. Warp 1 point something.

OCC:

Star Wars technology which seems to be the space tech most people in this game prefer is science fiction too. However did you know that the REAL
WORLD scientific community says that we can manufacture antimatter in small quanities? Which is the power source for warp drive .

OOC: Easy math there - It's 304 lm from Earth to Pluto. 1.8 hrs (108 minutes) is the established time, so 304/108=2.8. Numbers are not exact, but it wasn't travelling even close to sublight. Warp 1 point something.

Isn't Impulse speeds considered sublight, where as, Warp 1 is the
speed of light, then each Warp speed above Warp 1 is exponenally
increased?

I am also wondering if people here know that in using SW type
drives they are limited to where they can go because they use
something similar to worm holes that already exist throughout
space, so if there isn't a wormhole thats going the way you wish
to go you are out of luck. Further I've read about some of the these wormholes leading into dangerous locales, such as directly into the center of a sun.

I am also wondering if people here know that in using SW type
drives they are limited to where they can go because they use
something similar to worm holes that already exist throughout
space, so if there isn't a wormhole thats going the way you wish
to go you are out of luck. Further I've read about some of the these wormholes leading into dangerous locales, such as directly into the center of a sun.

Wormholes don't just "exist" in space like running water on earth. Traversable wormholes are only a concept, provided you can find one in the first place. And yes, you don't know where they come out. So they're pretty much a useless form of transportation.

The most logical faster-than-light drive is hyperspace. The idea is like folding space together so two points in normal space meet, skipping the whole area inbetween. If you want an explination on how it works, read this. (http://www.grislygrotto.com/tmb/nu/hyperspace.php)

Um, Bender... That is a wormhole. A wormhole is a place where space-time folds and meets. How that works... Not a physics minor or major.

But hyperspace, as per SW canon, is a dimensional travel type. You go into hyperspace (higher dimension), you exit near your target. Mass shadows will drop you out, and if you don't have a working 'motivator' to keep you in hyperspace you'll drop out. Better than being splattered across the galaxy I guess.

'Impulse' is a method of propulsion, presumably more advanced than ion or chemical propulsion. It's confined to sublight speeds, since it operates by 'throwing stuff out the back' so to speak.