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As the number of nations whom are on Mars increases it now seems viable to attempt to link all nations by rail, bridge, road, and canal. This has already begun (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75258&highlight=), but to trukly connect Mars a mutual agreement must be reached between Martian nations to work together to construct international transit, and agree upon an open border policy.

OOC :Sunset has proposed "A 'Planetary Infrastructure Connection Treaty'", so here goes (suggestions and improvements welcome) IC:

The Intra-Planetary, International, Transportation and Communications Agreement

As Mars is home to an Increasing number of people and peoples it becomes more and more vital that avenues of communication exist between her nations. For this reason it becomes clear that cooperation between the nations of Mars in order to expand and maintain Mars as an inter-planetary power-bloc.

For the afore-stated reasons the following articles are proposed:

I. Transportation.
In order that trade, travel, and emigration be conducted smoothly and effieciantly throughout Mars, all signatory nations shall agree to work together in establishing roads, railroads, waterways, ports of air, space, and sea, and other nessasary means of transit, both current and potential in order that all coners of Mars may be easily connected.

II. Communications.
In order that all corners of the planet be connected remotely all transit routes shall include methods of communication in order that knowlege be able to go wherever people go.

III. Emigration.
All members must allow dididents to freely emigrate from their nations, provioded that the emigrants are not charged with a crime other than dissent. Should the charged fail to be convicted they will be free again to emigrate, however should new evidence come to light, them the acussee will be turned over to an international jury, unless grnated assylum.

IV. New Signatees and Amendments.
New signatees are encouraged to join, however, if one third of the members call for a vote to block admission, and over one-half vote aginst it then the member may be blocked.
Amendements to the agreement following its ratification must be approved by a two thirds vote, new articles by a three fourths, as with repeals of new articles.

Signed,

OOC: Any suggestions for revisions are welcome.

Kajal Mars would like to sign this agreement, as we realize the trade potential this project would create. We would be happy to link our turborail (gravtrain) system to a larger network, as well as establish true international roadways, rather then the interstate and relatively small highway and freeway systems that link us with other nations at this time.

We would suggest that the current international links become secondary once construction of any new roadways is completed, as those would undoubtedly become the primary means of international ground travel at this time. We also suggest, for those nations that currently reside underwater, that these new routes be sealed, by which we mean that they follow the guidelines for ground routes that were built before the formation of an appreciable atmosphere.

Of course, the cities of Kajal Mars all reside in pressure domes anyways, as our original homeworld possesses an atmospheric pressure slightly higher then that of Earth, which we find tolerable, but uncomfortable.

So, basically, we suggest that the linked railway systems and international roadways be sealed and that exits to such roadways and railways should be located within domed population centers. The sealed roadways will allow for ventilation, of course, but instead of open air roadways, the air will be filtered for any number of things, whilst pollutants are removed and processed.

I'll see what other people say, and make revisions tommorrow Kaj. :D

A good idea. The Aquaducts will make building a global transportation infrastructure rather easy, as well.

Pilon is quite interested in this, you'll have to build underwater transport systems to reach us though.

Pilon is quite interested in this, you'll have to build underwater transport systems to reach us though.
Note to self:
Add underwater tunnels to list of transit when I do the update tommorrow or Friday.

just a note: Kajal has underwater settlements right now. ^_^

It's just the building underwater part that we might have problems with. We were there before the water. ^_^;;

OOC: Damn! You beat me to it! I was waiting until the MIDAS2 talks on defense finished, then I was going to propose something similar.

IC:

While Wazzu shares the dream of an interconnected Mars, we are cautious of this treaty. This treaty allows for ammendment without 100% ratification. Such is potentially soverign breaking, as states can be forced to leave the treaty or to accept ammendments they do not agree with. This speaks of law, of a higher soverign, not of a diplomatic treaty.

There are two ways around this. Either we can make ammendments possible only when all treaty nations ratify, or we can make ammendments enforcable only on those who sign those individual and late additions.

Without one or the other, Wazzu is not willing to sign this treaty.

We are fine with such a change. What does everyone else think.

OOC: And this is what Wazzu's arguements in MIDAS2 were for. Creation of a diplomatic body that could produce new mini-treaties...like an integrated transportation/information network (for those who would sign). But that is just one example.

OOC: Aye - but I'd also like to encourage other nations, especially colonies like Kajal and Qaaul, to propose treaties like this. It will show the VC's of the world that all Martians wish to see Mars move forward.

IC:

I agree with the honorable envoy of Wazzu - potential infringement of sovereignty exists. I would suggest simply removing the possibility of amendments and having it as a MFTA-like document. Signatory nations simply pledge to construct inter-connects as part of their normal infrastucture efforts.

Of course, there is a couple questions - what scale do we use for sub-ways, roadways, etc? I think we will have to build all the way, then people will have to switch vehicles or cars in order to proceed. Rebuilding that much infrastucture would be rediculous otherwide. Especially as most of ours is underground or underwater as well.

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"New ArAReBee encourages and agrees with this kind of thinking and hereby signs this treaty."

"The connection of information networks should not be a problem. As for subway systems, international stations would be the best way to accomadate for differing technologies, should this treaty progress enough, we'll begin the extention of our systems."

(OOC: This was apparently missed the first time, and it applies to this issue, so I believe a Link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75298) is in order.)

OOC: Sorry, I can not do anything until my father finished upgrading my comp. (He said just over half an hour, but apparently each minute is about six minutes long) He's almost done.