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Open message from DS metropolis to DS Mars Colony:

From: Darth Thanatos
To: Darth Tempius

I officially declare a commercial Embargo against the coalition of nations that call themselves the Vascilian County.
Seeing that there is no commercial activity between Vascilian County and DarkSith, either Metropolis or Colony, I order you to deploy the BattleCruisers assuming a Polar orbit and establish an informative blockade of Vascilian County. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT engage any incoming or outgoing ship. Just send a message stating that exists a state of Embargo against that nation and the reasons leading to it. If attacked, retreat, I repeat, retreat to a position clearly neutral or over DarkSithian Space. Avoid engagement over any third country space. If you are attacked over DarkSithian space, defend it. Use of the Yamato Gun is approved. Use of the Force is not, I repeat, no use of the Force, be it active or passive, is allowed. Besides that, Standard Operational Procedures are in full effect.
(OOC: This comes from the Planet Mars regional board. As other subjects will move up the blockade posts, I place this one here.)
Indeed nor in ours, we are not accepting any Trade with them to go through our territories but we will not enforce a Planet wide embargo feeling that it is outside of our powers as a Soverign body and would go against the Spirit of the Free Trade Pact.

Farseer

(As a Side point to join the Informational Embargo of Darksiths Battelcruisers the 1st Khaines Glory Fleet has been tasked with enforcing our own with similar orders))
We haven't stopped even one ship from crossing the borders. We just inform any incoming or outgoing ship of the Embargo state existing between DarkSith and the Vascilian county.

I repeat, no traffic is affected.

We also will assure all that not a single soverign nation state outside of our own has been effected by this act, a few vessels have been ordered to go around possibly rather than through Tor Yvresse-Mars, but other than that any soverign state is able to trade as usual with the terrorist rogue state of Vascilla, this is simply a show of our disgust at their recent actions.

Not only did they attempt to Annex a Colony of our Protectorate, an act that is and of itself, a reason for this action.
They have also attacked 'offically through the actions of a Rogue Admiral' the Fleets of Crimmond.
Further they have taken a stance that is delibatly aggresive towards Colonial nations declearing that they wish us to leave Mars. We take this as a direct Threat against our nation and so take this Step as a message that they can only go so far.

Farseer Council

The nation of Pilon fully supports this blockade. They will also embargo all Vascilian Goods moving through their territory.

(OOC: Ahem. We are not actually blockading traffic to or from VC, just telling each passing ship that we have an Embargo against VC. We have no trade with VC, so declaring an Embargo is a little pointless, BUT if you act like Hare-Krishnas in an airport (i.e. annoying anyone around by just being there) you make your point a little more forcefully. Trade goes freely in and out of VC space. Of course, any ship passing over DSMC space whose flightplan ends or starts in VC is told to detour, but that is just that. We are not attacking in any way. So he doesn't have a motive to declare war.

In another point, the army figure I stated in the regional board is wrong. It seems Tersanctus has changed the BC's specs AGAIN and now they carry 100000 troops instead of 250000, so the army deployed is of 1200000 and not 3000000. Yay. :( )

Incoming transmission from the department of Foreign affairs:

"Tor Yvresse, what is this unlawful seizure of territory you speak of? Roania blessed us with Roan as a gift, Roania is now our greatest ally...we are the best of friends. You are only sore because he threw you and your pitiful nation to the gutter. I must ask you now to remove your embargo. If you do not do so willingly we will have to remove you. We cannot have people slandering our great League, if you have an issue to resolve please attend the peace conference."


OOC:
The AFSDF has been put on high alert, 12 Battle Cruisers over Vascilian territory? harassing our trade partners? this is totally unacceptable.
Im sure the Tannelornian Space Defence Force will be interested in this as well.

"While we respect your rights to prevent goods from entering your nation, blockading the offending region is just plain silly. If you wish to embargo, do it in your own aerospace, much easier as well."

"If you're worried about smuggling, don't bother. They'll get in either way. In essence, this is more or less a show of force, and we don't appreciate such obvious subterfuge. Also, our ship captains are rather cranky fellows, and no doubt this embargo will most likely cause quite a few thwackings of shipmates. We hope you can live with this on your conscious."

"At any rate, we'll continue our trading shipping Vascilia's delightful variety of cash crops to New ArAreBee, were they'll be shipped around the system."

¤Economics Executive, Trust Concordance¤

"Vascilia County appreciates this sign of solidarity, all goods will be shipped with out tax for a month as a show of gratitude."

OOC:

Vascilia isn't a part of the Martian Free Trade Pact...

We will continue our Embargo of all Vascilian Goods, in addition due to the threats made against other nations participating in the embargo or blockades of Vascilian Goods we are deporting all Vascilians currently living within our borders and denying travel into our country by any Vascilians into our territory which includes our Airspace and Spaceterritory.

Incoming transmission from the Vascilian Port Authority:

"You will remove your embargo immediately, any of your forces attempting to enforce said embargo will be fired upon as a warning."

"Attention. Attention. You are either entering or leaving Vascilian County Space. Be warned that DarkSith has declared a trade Embargo against all of the nations that form the Vascilian County alliance. You are free to enter or leave Vascilian County space at your discretion. This military presence is here merely to inform you of this fact. Have a safe trip.
(pause)
Attention. Attention... (you get the idea)"

The ships are outside VC space, just bordering it, in a polar orbit. Almost all weapons are offline and shields are up.
(OOC: I'd like you to see the difference between an Embargo (mine and TY's), a Blockade (no ships allowed to enter or leave), and a Informative Blockade (just sending a message to all incoming-outgoing ships, what I am doing, you could also call it an Informative Pickett, more than a real blockade). There is also an Information Blockade, or Communications Blockade, i.e. preventing information in or out of a given country, but that is more than a naval action, as it would mean jamming all frequencies and cutting any Net access from your country.
I explain all of this for you to understand my IC answer:)
"The nation of DarkSith and its Martian Colony will not be moved by threats. Our trading Embargo will not be lifted. If the presence of our naval units scares you so much, then you seem to show a guilty conscience. If it will feel yourselves relieved, we'll displace our informative blockade a little further from your borders."

Incoming transmission from the department of Foreign affairs:

"Tor Yvresse, what is this unlawful seizure of territory you speak of? Roania blessed us with Roan as a gift, Roania is now our greatest ally...


Oh are they now, do you understand that WE have the power to end that status Instantly, on a whim of the council WE have the power to make Roania once more your foe. Try to discover the facts first they are Our protectorate their Foreign Policy ultimatly ours to control. We allow them lianency and leeway our control light but total. WE turned them away from Melkor WE did that next to that level of control you are nothing.


. I must ask you now to remove your embargo. If you do not do so willingly we will have to remove you. We cannot have people slandering our great League, if you have an issue to resolve please attend the peace conference."

No I think not, I will say what I wish to say, and please note you cannot simply claim the New Roan Territories as our Protectorate state Roanias Territory would fall to us should they vacate it, then after us to RESI as a part of Green Mars. We Slander nothing let us go through what we have said, you originally fattempted to forcefully aquire New Roan, A 'Officiall' Rogue member of your Command staff did attack Crimmond Vessels without provocation, and you have threatened all colonial states. No for something to be Slander it must first be false, this is all truths.

We may decide to attend the Peace Conferance but then again we may not. After all we offered such a conferance a long time ago and you refused to even acknowledge it, what has changed to alter your peoples view?

((OOC The first Khaines Glorly fleet is now in active Orbit around Mars, anyone who dosn't know my standard Fleet size is Thirty Vessels. However the first Khaines Glory Fleet also includes 5 Helio's Cruisers as an extra meaning we have 35 Vessels in Orbit))

From: Darth Thanatos, Emperor of DarkSith
To: Darth Nautas, Fleet Admiral

In the light of recent events and to lessen tensions in Mars, I order you to cease the informative blockade on WC (OOC: not a typo, an insult, but you don't know that :)).
Reassign the ships to defend the Colony perimeter and to keep an eye on Tor Yveesse territory. Your ship and you are detached from the Fleet, that is assigned permanently as Martian Defense and eventually turned over to the Colony when they can afford the maintenance costs. The soldiers assigned to the ships will be resent to Earth if they chose to.
You are reassigned to the new fleet of Helios class battlecruisers that recently arrived from Tersanctus' Shipyards. Stand ready to lend a hand in the incoming conflict between Tor Yvresse and Walten.

Incoming transmission from the department of Foreign affairs:

"Tor Yvresse, what is this unlawful seizure of territory you speak of? Roania blessed us with Roan as a gift, Roania is now our greatest ally...


Oh are they now, do you understand that WE have the power to end that status Instantly, on a whim of the council WE have the power to make Roania once more your foe. Try to discover the facts first they are Our protectorate their Foreign Policy ultimatly ours to control. We allow them lianency and leeway our control light but total. WE turned them away from Melkor WE did that next to that level of control you are nothing.


. I must ask you now to remove your embargo. If you do not do so willingly we will have to remove you. We cannot have people slandering our great League, if you have an issue to resolve please attend the peace conference."

No I think not, I will say what I wish to say, and please note you cannot simply claim the New Roan Territories as our Protectorate state Roanias Territory would fall to us should they vacate it, then after us to RESI as a part of Green Mars. We Slander nothing let us go through what we have said, you originally fattempted to forcefully aquire New Roan, A 'Officiall' Rogue member of your Command staff did attack Crimmond Vessels without provocation, and you have threatened all colonial states. No for something to be Slander it must first be false, this is all truths.

We may decide to attend the Peace Conferance but then again we may not. After all we offered such a conferance a long time ago and you refused to even acknowledge it, what has changed to alter your peoples view?

((OOC The first Khaines Glorly fleet is now in active Orbit around Mars, anyone who dosn't know my standard Fleet size is Thirty Vessels. However the first Khaines Glory Fleet also includes 5 Helio's Cruisers as an extra meaning we have 35 Vessels in Orbit))

Incoming Transmission from AFSS The Prophet:

"This is Overlord Nommo...Your vessels will cease their action now, this is seen as a provocation of war." The Overlord moved to turn off the view screen but was overcome by rage. "YOU WANT NEW ROAN!?!?!?! COME AND TAKE IT YOU XENOS BASTARDS!"

OOC:

There is anywhere between 60-420 AF Warships in orbit, not to mention Tannelorn and the rest of the Vascilian league, Im not afraid of the Eldar. You want the territory? you come and take it.

((OOC Clarification since my Forces had deployed to New Roan a long time ago and where never pulled out they are already there. Anything else in the nation is a side issue, but none of your soldiers would be allowed in.))

OOC:

Ok then...why haven't we fought that land battle then? honeslty, my troops are there to stay, thats their orders. If they would be "Allowed" in they'd just crash your little party.

7 legions, 2.5 million men. Thats what you have to put up with. Not to mention Tannelornian and Norieganian back up. You want to give up New Roan or it will be your fault that the largest war in Martian history was started.

We see Tor Yvresse as a threat, we will never allow any MIDAS nation to share a border with us, its to much of a threat. Give it up, the colony is ours now.

and get your ships out there or they'll be fired upon...

OOC:

Ok then...why haven't we fought that land battle then? honeslty, my troops are there to stay, thats their orders. If they would be "Allowed" in they'd just crash your little party.

7 legions, 2.5 million men. Thats what you have to put up with. Not to mention Tannelornian and Norieganian back up. You want to give up New Roan or it will be your fault that the largest war in Martian history was started.

We see Tor Yvresse as a threat, we will never allow any MIDAS nation to share a border with us, its to much of a threat. Give it up, the colony is ours now.

and get your ships out there or they'll be fired upon...

((OOC No, look I was away for that weekend when you decided to make that move and could not respond, but since then I have pointed out repeatadly that I Deployed my Forces ages ago. Openly in a thread if you recall, I never took them away so they where still there, deployed and ready you enter the territory and your the aggresor. If it comes down to it we will go to war over the land. Enough people have stolen from the Eldar already thank you very much oh forget it, in the interests of ease you can have deployed there. As an Illegal invader of course.))

In orbit over Mars Two more fleets of Tor Yvressian control enter Orbit, and message is sent out towards the Eldamar district.

'stand by, we have confirmation of permission being granted, the

Tor's right, Edward Black's death has rendered Roania pretty much... chaotic.

But heres the thing Tor Yvresse, Roania gave us the territory before Mr.Black died. Meaning we are going off that information, my troops haven't engaged yours yet meaning. Yours are in hiding, possibly waiting to spring an ambush(Thats good for you) while my men are setting up positions and moving in Immigrants.

Legally we both believe ourselves to be in the right...you think you should have recieved it when you didn't, it was up to Roania to give us the territory. Not you to decide who got it, and as far as Im concerned the territory is mine and the Vascilian League will keep fighting because we believe ourselves to be right.

So in essence, we will both be fight defensive wars if it comes to it.

"Legally VASCILIA COUNTY IS RIGHT!!!!! It was given to us by the late Edward Black, to preserve his memory we SHALL NOT hand over hellespontos county. Perhaps your unevolved, unaugmented natural born brains cannot grasp the concept of fairness and right, but then, you were willing to slay the eldar of Bajon rather then let them go to Melkor, which shows you to be unreasonable and unable to properly process all available information. Simply put 3 of the Elite A.T.A.C. divisions utilising their famous Transformable hovertanks and the T.C. our elite army divisions as well as mountain offensive squads and the R.E.P. Not only that but one full regiment of the highly elite, Nano Enhanced M.O.S.P.E.A.D.A equipped Tannelorn NAval troopers and their attendant GArfish high speed Multi arena Transports, and the full resources of three Ikazucki Fleet Carriers are being despatched with over 2000 Veritech Multi Arena [transformable] Fighters in support. If you wish to take Hellespontos County, you must go through us, as well as Noriganian troops and AFDF forces numbering over 3 million, for a combined army of 4 million soldiers.....You have been warned, leave our territory and this may still be peacefully resolved....."
Tannelorn Military High Command.

Not the Tannelorn Ground forces are very mobile and will go in ahead of the rest of the forces to take forward command posts, and have already started setting upa permanent military base in the dead middle of the disputed territory.

I think Tannelorn hit it right on the nose...But as the official representative of Vascilia County I have been authorised to make a compromise.

We will split the nation in half, The Southern half being run by The Vascilian League and the other by Tor Yvresse. We require a buffer zone...we would feel threatened with out one. Though if Tor Yvresse decides to turn down our very generous offer then he will be forced to take on the Afformentioned number of Vascilian Troops. Not to mention the Hellespontos National army which we are currently training.

OOC:

No one wants a world war...take the deal or we'll be forced to defend ourselves. We dont want a hostile power right on the border...no body would want that, take it or leave it.

The M113A16 sped through the Martian desert, it's 7 comrades following behind. They were patrolling the wasteland between ADK Mars and the Vascilian League, protecting the trade routes from raiders.


In space the Martian Space Defense Forces (MSDF) were preparing to engage those damned ships which would threaten the sovreignty of the Vascilian League.

OOC: Which ships? Mine left some time ago to patrol DSMC space. I don't have the informative blockade anymore. The trade embargo still exists, though.

OOC:

Tor Yvresse is pushing it...I think he means those ships.

A small group of ships appear on the fringe of the Martian subsystem and approach steadily. The ships are the Pilonese 3rd Defence Fleet. They have recently been dispatched to protect Pilonese interests in the Martian Area.
A message is sent to all ships in the area: "This si the Pilonese 3rd Defence Fleet. We have been ordered to the area to maintain the sovereignty of our colony on Mars. Any ships that enter Pilonese Space will be stopped and searched. All MIDAS member ships will go free of such checks. Any Vascilian ships that enter Pilonese Territory will be considered an invasion and appropriate measures will be taken.

"we have no need to cross your space Pilon, unless we have more pressing matters that would force us to do so...and be warned if such a reaason comes to be, and we bear no ill will towards your nation, do not attempt to bar our passage. We Tannelorn are reasonable people, you naturals are not, irrational, primitive, unmodified brain structures leave you unable to think of the nuances and contingencies to which we would violate your air space. The only reason your minds could possiby come up with is that we are attempting to invade. Though we currently have no reason to cross in to your territory, if Tannelorn Forces including the Genesis fission Cascade Gamma/X-ray Emitters do cross over, then it is more then likely not only to your benefit, but for the benefit of all mars. We are devoted to protecting mars from All threats, be they from Within, or Without....our proximity to the Asteroid belt leaves us sorely vulnerable to large meteor impacts. Also the wealth inherent in this Planet leaves us open to the envy of Earthers, whom have already depleted their own resources and wish to find another world to rape. Some say mars is big enough for all to share.....It is not, Being only 2/3 the size of earth, it is not able to support the same population, or the excavations of Martian nations, and the Imperialist Earth Colonists."
Tannelorn Ministry of Primitive social studies [Diplomacy]

OOC: I would note we are not even close to maximum capacity. It's 10 Trillion for Earth, so say 3-4 Trillion for Mars. Map capacity yes, but realistic capacity, no. Maps updated BTW.

ooc trillions of people on earth?????????????? no i dont think the crust could take the wieght haha, no earths max is around where we are now, any more.....and we have problems, but on mars, due to the manufacturing of Earth like environments, it is actually possible to have more people then on earth, that and the oceans on earth take up most of our room. Martian's wouldnt have to worry as much about room as about resources, whereas earth folk have to worry more about room then resources, as their are plenty, if carefully husbanded

OOC: Wrong. We just don't use what we have in the most effective ways. Remember - all of humanity can be crammed into a box 10 miles on a side. All of humanity could live in Texas at a density of 8000 per square kilometer. This would be lower than the population density of New York City. NYC is about 4x higher that this. It would be a lot of people in a small space, but considering the comparative size of Texas and the surface area of Earth... It's quite a lot of area left over. What the upper limit is, that's a good question. But it's not a measily 6 billion.

OOC: Bah... The ships will protect Vascilia County and the Martian Confederation.

"we have no need to cross your space Pilon, unless we have more pressing matters that would force us to do so...and be warned if such a reaason comes to be, and we bear no ill will towards your nation, do not attempt to bar our passage. We Tannelorn are reasonable people, you naturals are not, irrational, primitive, unmodified brain structures leave you unable to think of the nuances and contingencies to which we would violate your air space. The only reason your minds could possiby come up with is that we are attempting to invade. Though we currently have no reason to cross in to your territory, if Tannelorn Forces including the Genesis fission Cascade Gamma/X-ray Emitters do cross over, then it is more then likely not only to your benefit, but for the benefit of all mars. We are devoted to protecting mars from All threats, be they from Within, or Without....our proximity to the Asteroid belt leaves us sorely vulnerable to large meteor impacts. Also the wealth inherent in this Planet leaves us open to the envy of Earthers, whom have already depleted their own resources and wish to find another world to rape. Some say mars is big enough for all to share.....It is not, Being only 2/3 the size of earth, it is not able to support the same population, or the excavations of Martian nations, and the Imperialist Earth Colonists."
Tannelorn Ministry of Primitive social studies [Diplomacy]

You are not our leaders, we do not recognize your authority. consider yourself warned and I repeat the warning. No VC ships will be allowed in Pilonese territory.

The Viceroy of DarkSith Mars Colony has made no comments.

Over DS space, nine Battlecruisers patrol the area, all scanners on active, shields up and all guns on line. The other two are enroute to and from Earth, one just having received its scheduled maintenance, the other going to get it.

No ships are allowed to make a flyby over DS territory, except the ones from Tor Yvresse.