NationStates Jolt Archive

Issue October 7th, 2003:

The Centre for Strategic Scientific Development has lifted the veil on a new prototype machinegun. After the success of the PaSMG-4 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64972) and the relative failure of the PaFT-3 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68553), this weapon is considered to be a possible future hit.

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/BUSINESS/06/26/australia.metalstorm/story.metal.storm.fire.jpg

The new machinegun, the (CSSD)X/MG9/P4 "Kamikaze" as it is currently designated, is capable of firing a million rounds per minute by using a revolutionary system that replaces the old mechanical firing pins with electronic charges. Multiple bullets in one barrel are fired fractions of a second apart. The result is a devastating shot.

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/2002091443/www.wired.com/news/images/full/metal_storm1b_f.jpg

The "Kamikaze" can fire up to an astonishing one million rounds per minute!

To see the gun in action, one can download a demonstration via this link (http://www.metalstorm.com/videos/ms_36barrel_mpg.zip).


This device has yet to be put to more practical use, but the designs are promising. The gun as seen above will be replacing some of the Vulcan guns now in use with the Patruan military. Other derived designs are being developed as well, such as the (CSSD)X/HG28/D1 "Tornado", a prototype handgun variant that operates by the same system.

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/us/0306/gallery.metal.storm/gallery.handgun.1.jpg
The design of the prototype "Tornado" handgun is promising


In the foreseeable future, a first limited series of these will be sold. As it will be a limited edition, we will be taking orders already.

Imperial Armed Forces of Patrua

Issue May 2nd, 2004:

The Centre for Strategic Scientific Development is proud to present the PaMG-9, your firepower of the future.
Firing up to a daunting one million rounds per minute, this machine gun will shred anything that needs shredding. The sheer amount of ammunition it uses implies its preferable position near war platforms or at fixed positions. Still, it can be fielded as an infantry weapon. THe Empire of Patrua holds the copyright and will actively prosecute any attempt at copying.


PaMG-9 infantry version; $5,100
http://www.freewebs.com/patrua/legionnaire.jpg
PaMG-9B fixed naval version; $11,000
http://www.freewebs.com/patrua/gun.jpg
PaMG-9C fixed armour version; $8,400
http://www.freewebs.com/patrua/PaAV-16gun.jpg http://www.freewebs.com/patrua/HTTVupgrade.gif
PaMG-9D fixed air version; $10,800
http://www.freewebs.com/patrua/gunship.jpg
PaMG-9 technology modified to the Pa3A (Automated Anti-Aircraft) system; $28,800
http://www.freewebs.com/patrua/samgun.gif


Imperial Armed Forces of Patrua

:shock: can you sell it us?


Also if you felt like getting invloved in an RP, you can check this out:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74361

EDIt: while I have your intention maybe you would be interested in the
EA-220 Carrier/land Based Tactical Bomber (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73661&highlight=) excellent replacement for the A-6.

tag

The one on the top, is it computer driven, or does it need humans to use it?

sorry to compulsively advertise but a couple of other nice things Im quite proud of:

ERS-1 Man-Portable Reconnaissance UAV (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75781&highlight=)

ERS-2 Helicopter UAV. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1726050#1726050)

oh and here's the finished carrier, thanks for finding that pic BTW.

EM-200 Aircraft Carrier (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77139&highlight=)

Jeez! How long does the ammunition last? At a million rounds per second, ammunition in that little box could not possibly maintain anything close to a million rounds per second...

:shock: can you sell it us?


Also if you felt like getting invloved in an RP, you can check this out:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74361

EDIt: while I have your intention maybe you would be interested in the
EA-220 Carrier/land Based Tactical Bomber (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73661&highlight=) excellent replacement for the A-6.


Being a staunch ally of our Empire, we'll make sure you won't be left out of the rain.

Regarding the role-play, I'll check out if it's threatening Patrua's economic interests first. Might be joining later on.

Like your bomber but the military is all out of money at the moment :(
Last update was costly one...

The one on the top, is it computer driven, or does it need humans to use it?

That's up to you. It's just like any other gun, you can fire it by pressing the button yourself or you can link it up to a computer, trip-wire, sensors or remote control.

Jeez! How long does the ammunition last? At a million rounds per second, ammunition in that little box could not possibly maintain anything close to a million rounds per second...

The prototype shown with a 36 barrel configuration holds 540 rounds.
A larger ammo cache might enable firing more bullets (what we plan to do for the Vulcan replacement) but then again, at 1 million rounds a minute, I don't think you have to fire at any one target longer than 10 seconds.

Interesting designs indeed, the holy empire has been experimenting with this kind of electro firing mechanisms for some time now. We will watch developments of this weapon with great interest and announce our interest in purchasing the designs and schematics of the weapon or weapons at a later date.

~Trade Official for the Holy Empire.

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i would like 10 000 please*credits are wired*
8)

Erm... It's not yet for sale and we don't quite have a price yet but your enthusiasm is most inspiring and your order will be taken into account.

Please sell me 10,000 Machine guns, and the new pistols :o THanks

ooc:- Isn't it a nice design by an Australian inventor eh?

OOC:
Can these idiots read?

Anyway, nice concept, the intimidation factor alone is excellent.

Nice, want to buy some now but gotta wait.

8)

Please sell me 10,000 Machine guns, and the new pistols THanks

I will as soon as they are up for sale.

ooc:- Isn't it a nice design by an Australian inventor eh?

OOC.
And not even a physicist or something, just a plain grocery wholesalesman :?

Anyway, nice concept, the intimidation factor alone is excellent.

Well yeah, although you wouldn't feel anything if you'd get hit by one of these. It's instant evaporation :twisted: .

:shock:

:idea:

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8)

The Centre for Strategic Scientific Development has lifted the veil on a new prototype machinegun. After the success of the PaSMG-4 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64972) and the relative failure of the PaFT-3 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68553), this weapon is considered to be a possible future hit.

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/BUSINESS/06/26/australia.metalstorm/story.metal.storm.fire.jpg

The new machinegun, the (CSSD)X/MG9/P4 "Kamikaze" as it is currently designated, is capable of firing a million rounds per minute by using a revolutionary system that replaces the old mechanical firing pins with electronic charges. Multiple bullets in one barrel are fired fractions of a second apart. The result is a devastating shot.

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/2002091443/www.wired.com/news/images/full/metal_storm1b_f.jpg

The "Kamikaze" can fire up to an astonishing one million rounds per minute!

To see the gun in action, one can download a demonstration via this link (http://www.metalstorm.com/videos/ms_36barrel_mpg.zip).


This device has yet to be put to more practical use, but the designs are promising. The gun as seen above will be replacing some of the Vulcan guns now in use with the Patruan military. Other derived designs are being developed as well, such as the (CSSD)X/HG28/D1 "Tornado", a prototype handgun variant that operates by the same system.

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/us/0306/gallery.metal.storm/gallery.handgun.1.jpg
The design of the prototype "Tornado" handgun is promising


In the foreseeable future, a first limited series of these will be sold. As it will be a limited edition, we will be taking orders already.

Imperial Armed Forces of Patrua
That's the metal-storm systems....

sorry to compulsively advertise but a couple of other nice things Im quite proud of:

ERS-1 Man-Portable Reconnaissance UAV (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75781&highlight=)

ERS-2 Helicopter UAV. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1726050#1726050)

oh and here's the finished carrier, thanks for finding that pic BTW.

EM-200 Aircraft Carrier (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77139&highlight=)

OOC:
Can these idiots read?

Anyway, nice concept, the intimidation factor alone is excellent.

Hell, no intimidation here. It fires so fast you will waist all your ammo killing only a few troops, and than I will storm you when you run out.

OOC:
I don't think any self respecting general would leave logistics out of the question. Surely they would have to supply it constantly with ammunition.

This brings to mind John Ringo's Legacy of Aldenata series. The US military was using a 105mm version of that thing and a 40mm grenade launcher version of that thing when fighting against the Posleen. The 105mm one was....interesting.

The prototype shown with a 36 barrel configuration holds 540 rounds.
A larger ammo cache might enable firing more bullets (what we plan to do for the Vulcan replacement) but then again, at 1 million rounds a minute, I don't think you have to fire at any one target longer than 10 seconds.

OK, thank you, 540 is nice and realistic. :) And why 10 seconds? Just turning the damn thing on would empty the magazine and (hopefully) neutralize the target. 8)

Oh, and when you release this for sale, please count us as a definite buyer. We would like to study the concept for possible integration into an air-defense system -- assuming you don't mind if I, erm, modify it a bit. :D

Thats is the current problem with Metal storm weapons they tend to be use once weapons, yes they can quickly be reloaded by just replacing each barrel (or all of them at once) but they are kind of like MRLS systems, ie shoot once then run away to reload.

Hell, no intimidation here. It fires so fast you will waist all your ammo killing only a few troops, and than I will storm you when you run out.

You can waste it by using it on a few troops but I'm sure the strategically more gifted may be putting them to different use (large troop concentrations, planes, missiles, armour,...). And indeed, as Zvarinograd pointed out correctly, a serious general will provide cover and ammo.

Oh, and when you release this for sale, please count us as a definite buyer. We would like to study the concept for possible integration into an air-defense system -- assuming you don't mind if I, erm, modify it a bit. :D

Well, we'll just be selling the stuff, what you do with it afterwards is none of our concern. Well, we would advise you not to use it on our Empire or our allies, but otherwise you're okay.

Thats is the current problem with Metal storm weapons they tend to be use once weapons, yes they can quickly be reloaded by just replacing each barrel (or all of them at once) but they are kind of like MRLS systems, ie shoot once then run away to reload.

Methinks differently. This needn't necessarily be true, a (cooled) quick reload system might solve part of the problem. But I for one will primarily be putting them in place of our vulcans in our Spectre gunships, shipbound vulcans, vulcans in our Tomahawk helicopters (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44492) and so on. You might even use them as a sort of MRLS hit 'n run system, yeah. But at the moment we're researching a fast ammo feed system to go with it or one can use it instead of a missile launcher. The possibilities are endless.

Patrua, when they do go on sale I will be interested in buying some. :wink:

Patrua, when they do go on sale I will be interested in buying some. :wink:

Making great haste, Your Holiness :D

Oh, and when you release this for sale, please count us as a definite buyer. We would like to study the concept for possible integration into an air-defense system -- assuming you don't mind if I, erm, modify it a bit. :D

Well, we'll just be selling the stuff, what you do with it afterwards is none of our concern. Well, we would advise you not to use it on our Empire or our allies, but otherwise you're okay.

Excellent! :D

Patrua, when they do go on sale I will be interested in buying some. :wink:

Making great haste, Your Holiness :D

Cheers! :D

I am an <b>DEFINITE</b> buyer!

Looks nice.

Hell on logistics though.

Looks nice.

Hell on logistics though.

True, but it might be well worth the trouble.

Whats the calibre?

Whats the calibre?

Interesting question.

The machinegun will be operating on .50 cal ammo.

As for the gun, it might be good to know that it will be possible to customize it to fit your specific needs. There's no need to fit the bullets in the grip and there are four barrels available that each might be loaded with different ammo. These might be chosen in order to optimize the individual pointability or for different mission types. The 7.62mm, 9mm and even .357 and .476 rounds have been suggested already.

At .50 caliber this sucker is going to be a bitch to shoot, thats 2 million dollars a second!

still, if it can be addapted to fit cheaper ammunition we would be very interested in purchasing it for static defences and as an automated invasion repulsion device in our ships. If there is a waiting list, or a pre-ording list we would like to be put on it, quantity to be decided as soon as price is announced.

You metioned differnet ammo types in different barrels of the gun, could it be possible to have two ammo types together and have the computer mix and match the fireing?

*IE, Tracer rounds in one, .50 in anouther, HEAT shells in anouther and 9mm in yet anouther, the computer designating each to be fired in either a preset sequence, or as the targets present themselves.*

ooc:- Isn't it a nice design by an Australian inventor eh?No.
Well yeah, although you wouldn't feel anything if you'd get hit by one of these. It's instant evaporation :twisted: .Aha! The key to the design is NOT the cartidges stacked in the barrel, but bullets that evaporate people!

At .50 caliber this sucker is going to be a bitch to shoot, thats 2 million dollars a second!

still, if it can be addapted to fit cheaper ammunition we would be very interested in purchasing it for static defences and as an automated invasion repulsion device in our ships. If there is a waiting list, or a pre-ording list we would like to be put on it, quantity to be decided as soon as price is announced.

That indeed is a valid argument. But the bullets still need to pack a punch.

You metioned differnet ammo types in different barrels of the gun, could it be possible to have two ammo types together and have the computer mix and match the fireing?

*IE, Tracer rounds in one, .50 in anouther, HEAT shells in anouther and 9mm in yet anouther, the computer designating each to be fired in either a preset sequence, or as the targets present themselves.*

To a limited extend, preset bursts can indeed be programmed. The thumb hold at the side of the grip is for individual owner recognition by the way.


Aha! The key to the design is NOT the cartidges stacked in the barrel, but bullets that evaporate people!

Well some 540 bullets ripping through a human body in less than a second would have a visual effect that resembles evaporation. Maybe I should have called it disintegration or something...

Bullets that evaporate people :idea:
Might be a next project.

This brings to mind John Ringo's Legacy of Aldenata series. The US military was using a 105mm version of that thing and a 40mm grenade launcher version of that thing when fighting against the Posleen. The 105mm one was....interesting.

OOC: Gee, and I thought I was the only one who ever read those books ;)

As for the weapons themselves, I'd love to buy a few when they go on sale, but I'll be damned if I know what I'd use it for.

As for the weapons themselves, I'd love to buy a few when they go on sale, but I'll be damned if I know what I'd use it for.

Come now, Patrua will be putting them on warships, choppers and modified Spectre gunships. They can shred incoming missiles, would be mighty AA and AT guns. It's also useful to wipe out that troop concentration you've been worrying about...

Since these weapons exist in RL anyone can have them

I would:

Place em on ships for anti missile, surface ship etc. To replace Phalanx :)

Stationary bunkers

Fit 'em on a T-80's chassis, instead of the turret :D

Since these weapons exist in RL anyone can have them

Almost every weapon that has a picture on this storefront exists IRL.
I'll just be selling 'em soon as my own product.
That doesn't mean that all other nations are prohibited from developping and selling them.

I would:

Place em on ships for anti missile, surface ship etc. To replace Phalanx :)

Stationary bunkers

Fit 'em on a T-80's chassis, instead of the turret :D

There ya go :D
A little fantasy can get you a long way :twisted:

So when can sales be expected to start?

So when can sales be expected to start?

Sorry for the lateness of my answer. i expect the first applications to be ready in a couple o' weeks.

Excellent. We await your word. :)

:!: After several months of delay, the gun has hit the market!

.:Bump:. for business

Of course we're interested in excellent Patruan technology, these would be brilliant for mowing down hordes of Afrcian soldiers in Gabon. 800 units please.