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TDRHL Needs light armor!

Har Land
05-10-2003, 01:27
The Democratic Republic of Har Land is looking for a light armor/APC that can be used by our Army/Marines.

Please provide specs, and pictures of your vehicles for sale.

Bare Bones Requirements:
Versatile
Good Speed (50-60mph prefeable)
Armored enough to survive a hit from a large shell or medial explosive.
Armed enough to provide support for itself versus infantry, and other light(or lighter) armor.
Carry 10+ troops per.


Submit your designs! (Medical variants are necessary too!)
Kotterdam
05-10-2003, 04:07
The Dominion of Kotterdam would like to offer our IFV-2 Normandy for consideration.

Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy
Crew 2 (Driver, Gunner/Commander)
Passengers
10 Fully Equipped Infantry
2 Crew Served Weapons
Length 7.62 Meters
Weight 17 Metric Tonnes
Speed
Road 72 kph
Combat 41 kph
Water 10 kph
Range 475 miles
Engine
1 x General Motors ARV-12 Water-cooled 4 cycle diesel
2 x General Electric Water Jet Turbines (steerable)
Armament
1 x EX34 Hughes 25mm Chain Gun
1 x Browning MAG 7.62 x 51mm coaxially-mounted machine gun
1 x Heckler & Koch coaxially-mounted Grenade Machine Gun
2 x Single Tube TOW missile launchers (ejectable)
1 x Laser Target Designator
Ammunition
400 x 25mm HEAP
1200 x 7.62mm NATO
320 x 40mm Grenades
2 x Standard Infantry Loads
Defensive Systems
Layered Ceramic/Kevlar/Titanium Alloy Armour
Laser/Infrared/Microwave Threat Receptors
Kevlar Mine Matt integral to crew deck
Fully NBC-Rated Life Support System
Life Support rated for operation to -48 degrees C
10-Canister Smoke Grenade System
Anti-Spall Coating on all surfaces
Engine mounted forward of driver for enhanced crew survivability
Optics/Sensors
Low-Light Systems for both Driver and Gunner/Commander
Turret-Mounted IR Sight for Gunner/Commander
Full Telescopic Magnification on both Natural- and Low-Light systems
Computer-Aided Target Recognition system
Communications
Real-Time Command, Control, and Communications (RTC3) Data Link
- GPS Moving Map w' position and status of connected RTC3 units
- Connected to Auto-Diagnostic system for transmission of unit status
- Zip-Squeal Text/Data Transmission Capable
Universal Adaptor Port for Wire Communications
Separate Intercom Systems for Infantry and Vehicle crew with Infantry and Vehicle Commanders having access to both
High-Frequency Encrypted Radio
Satelite Communication System with Removable Antenna
4 x Retransmit-Capable Encrypted Radio Sets
Other Systems
Automated Diagnostic System
Weapons Ports for Infantry
Forward-Mounted Winch
Armoured Rear Entry Hatch
Armoured Top-Mounted Egress Hatch (Room for three men standing)
Unit Cost $3.71M
Prime Contractor Kotterdam Motor Corporation

Notes
Designed originally to meet a requirement put forth by Rimbauld, KMC's IFV-2 Normandy performed so well in tests that the design has since been adopted as the DKA's next-generation Infantry Fighting Vehicle.

Built with a highly modular design, the Normandy is capable of being converted from its baseline design to a Mortar carrier, a gun carrier, a command-post vehicle, an ambulance, as well as a minesweeper, engineer support vehicle, ARV, and dry, wet, and General Purpose logistics vehicles through the replacement of its componants and its entirely modular turret.

Although all fire-controls for this capable vehicle have manual backups, the primary fire function is highly computerized to allow first-round first-hit capability against enemy vehicles, even on the move. As well, the vehicle's design allows most componants to be serviced by the crew without ever leaving the vehicle.

Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy (Gun Carrier)
Crew 3 (Driver, Gunner/Commander, Loader)
Passengers 0
Armament
1 x Rheinmetall 120 mm L55 smoothbore gun
1 x Browning MAG 7.62 x 51mm coaxially-mounted machine gun
1 x Laser Target Designator
Ammunition
36 x 120mm (Various)
1200 x 7.62mm NATO

Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy (Mortar Carrier)
Crew 2 (Driver, Gunner/Commander)
Passengers
10 Fully Equipped Infantry
2 Crew Served Weapons
Armament
1 x EX34 Hughes 25mm Chain Gun
1 x Browning MAG 7.62 x 51mm coaxially-mounted machine gun
1 x 60mm Mortar
1 x Laser Target Designator
Ammunition
400 x 25mm HEAP
1200 x 7.62mm NATO
80 x 60mm Mortar Shells
2 x Standard Infantry Loads

Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy (Anti-Air)
Crew 3 (Driver, Gunner/Commander, Radar Operator)
Passengers 0
Armament
1 x General Electric M61A2 Vulcan Cannon
2 x Five-Tube Stinger SAM Launchers
Ammunition
2400 x 20mm Cannon
Optics/Sensors
Low-Light Systems for both Driver and Gunner/Commander
Turret-Mounted IR Sight for Gunner/Commander
Full Telescopic Magnification on both Natural- and Low-Light systems
Computer-Aided Target Recognition system
Ericcson Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) Air-Search Radar

Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy (Minesweeper)
Crew 3 (Driver, Gunner/Commander, MAD Operator)
Passengers 0
Armament
1 x EX34 Hughes 25mm Chain Gun
1 x Browning MAG 7.62 x 51mm coaxially-mounted machine gun
1 x Heckler & Koch coaxially-mounted Grenade Machine Gun
2 x Single Tube TOW missile launchers (ejectable)
1 x Laser Target Designator
Ammunition
400 x 25mm HEAP
1200 x 7.62mm NATO
320 x 40mm Grenades
Optics/Sensors
Low-Light Systems for both Driver and Gunner/Commander
Turret-Mounted IR Sight for Gunner/Commander
Full Telescopic Magnification on both Natural- and Low-Light systems
Computer-Aided Target Recognition system
Magnetic Anomaly Detector (For Mine Detection)
Other Systems
Automated Diagnostic System
Aft-Mounted Winch
Armoured Rear Entry Hatch
Armoured Top-Mounted Egress Hatch (Room for three men standing)
Forward-Mounted Anti-Mine Flail Attachment

Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy (ARV)
Crew 3 (Driver, Gunner/Commander, Loader)
Passengers 0
Armament
None
Other Systems
Automated Diagnostic System
Weapons Ports for Infantry
Forward- and Aft-Mounted Winches
Armoured Rear Entry Hatch
Armoured Top-Mounted Egress Hatch (Room for three men standing)
Top-Mounted Crane
Forward- and Aft-Mounted Universal Towing Hitches

Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy (Engineer Support)
Crew 2 (Driver, Gunner/Commander)
Passengers 10 Engineers
Armament
1 x EX34 Hughes 25mm Chain Gun
1 x Browning MAG 7.62 x 51mm coaxially-mounted machine gun
1 x Heckler & Koch coaxially-mounted Grenade Machine Gun
2 x Single Tube TOW missile launchers (ejectable)
1 x Laser Target Designator
Ammunition
400 x 25mm HEAP
1200 x 7.62mm NATO
320 x 40mm Grenades
Optics/Sensors
Low-Light Systems for both Driver and Gunner/Commander
Turret-Mounted IR Sight for Gunner/Commander
Full Telescopic Magnification on both Natural- and Low-Light systems
Computer-Aided Target Recognition system
Other Systems
Automated Diagnostic System
Weapons Ports for Infantry
Aft-Mounted Winch
Armoured Rear Entry Hatch
Armoured Top-Mounted Egress Hatch (Room for three men standing)
Forward-Mounted Bulldozer Attachment
Har Land
05-10-2003, 04:44
Definately a good vehicle there! Depending on any other competetors that come along with their product, I think Har Land will purchase a few of your IFV-2 Normandy'.

We are currently in talks with other defense ministers on how many to buy, and which ones.

Would anyone else show their products they have to our originall stated topic?
Har Land
05-10-2003, 19:05
Kotterdam, if purchased, must we pruchase variants seperately? Or can we buy ten for example, and make them into our own variants?
Har Land
06-10-2003, 02:14
Either way, Har Land wants ten of your vehicles

The Democratic Republic or Har Land awards The Dominion of Kotterdam with a 37.1 million dollar weapons contract.

Purchase order:
10x Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy

*Money wired*
06-10-2003, 02:17
give me 15 of those normandys!ill give 20 million!
Kotterdam
06-10-2003, 02:29
Either way, Har Land wants ten of your vehicles

The Democratic Republic or Har Land awards The Dominion of Kotterdam with a 37.1 million dollar weapons contract.

Purchase order:
10x Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy

*Money wired*

The Normandy is an extremely modular vehicle. Any configuration of Normandy can be converted to any other configuration in a matter of hours.

For half the price of one Normandy, you will recieve one full set of conversion kits. This will allow you to convert one Normandy into any of the variants put forward here. This is more useful than it might seem, because the full set of conversion kits contains enough componants to convert one Normandy per configuration. To wit, you could convert one of each.

Whether you wish to purchase the conversion kits, your order has been filled. It has been a pleasure to do business with you.
Kotterdam
06-10-2003, 02:31
give me 15 of those normandys!ill give 20 million!

Order confirmed. Enjoy.
06-10-2003, 02:33
The Wolverine Advanced Urban Combat Vehicle
http://www.jed.simonides.org/8x8afv/echo/exf_series/exf/exf_002.jpg
The Wolverine is an 8 wheeled AFV which was specially engineered for Urban Combat. With a relatively low weight of 29 tons and a 8x8 steering system it is very fast and agile. One of it's big advantages in urban combat scenarios is the fact that it can use it's advanced thermal imager to see through walls and rubble, reducing the likelyhood of an ambush. It can also see through street corners, enabling it to see other AFV's or tanks. The thermal imager provides a 360 degree view, has a range of almost 2km, and it's sensitivity is adjustable.
View from the TI:
http://www.sandberg.co.uk/spec/images/S280r04-1.jpg
The Wolverine also comes in several variants: Standard, APC, ADATS, ATGM, and Medivac. All version come with countermeasures for ATGM's and ERA plating overtop of their Montgomery armor.

Standard version
Stats:
Crew: 3+4 troops
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 120mm ETC cannon
1 15.5mm MG
1 AGS-17 Automatic Grenade Launcher
2 ATGM Launchers
smoke dispensers
Cost: $2.4 Million

APC version
Stats:
Crew: 3+9 troops
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 40mm auto cannon
1 15.5mm MGs
1 7.62mm MGs
1 AGS-17 Automatic Grenade Launcher
4 ATGM Launchers
smoke dispensers
Cost: $2.2 Million

ADATS version
Stats:
Crew: 3
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
8 SAM missiles with range of 6km
2 15.5mm MGs
1 7.62 MG
smoke dispensers
Radar capable of detecting threats 30 miles away
Cost: $2.3 Million

ATGM version
Crew: 3
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
10 ATGM tubes(20 missiles carried, can be reloaded in under 1 minute)
2 15.5mm MGs
smoke dispensers
Cost: $2.3 Million

Medivac version:
Crew: 2+Medics
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 15.5mm MGs for self defense
smoke dispensers
room for 4 litters
Cost: $2 million
Har Land
06-10-2003, 03:12
Either way, Har Land wants ten of your vehicles

The Democratic Republic or Har Land awards The Dominion of Kotterdam with a 37.1 million dollar weapons contract.

Purchase order:
10x Vehicle IFV-2 Normandy

*Money wired*

The Normandy is an extremely modular vehicle. Any configuration of Normandy can be converted to any other configuration in a matter of hours.

For half the price of one Normandy, you will recieve one full set of conversion kits. This will allow you to convert one Normandy into any of the variants put forward here. This is more useful than it might seem, because the full set of conversion kits contains enough componants to convert one Normandy per configuration. To wit, you could convert one of each.

Whether you wish to purchase the conversion kits, your order has been filled. It has been a pleasure to do business with you.

How much would five conversion kits cost me?
The Frenchman
06-10-2003, 03:21
The Wolverine Advanced Urban Combat Vehicle
http://www.jed.simonides.org/8x8afv/echo/exf_series/exf/exf_002.jpg
The Wolverine is an 8 wheeled AFV which was specially engineered for Urban Combat. With a relatively low weight of 29 tons and a 8x8 steering system it is very fast and agile. One of it's big advantages in urban combat scenarios is the fact that it can use it's advanced thermal imager to see through walls and rubble, reducing the likelyhood of an ambush. It can also see through street corners, enabling it to see other AFV's or tanks. The thermal imager provides a 360 degree view, has a range of almost 2km, and it's sensitivity is adjustable.
View from the TI:
http://www.sandberg.co.uk/spec/images/S280r04-1.jpg
The Wolverine also comes in several variants: Standard, APC, ADATS, ATGM, and Medivac. All version come with countermeasures for ATGM's and ERA plating overtop of their Montgomery armor.

Standard version
Stats:
Crew: 3+4 troops
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 120mm ETC cannon
1 15.5mm MG
1 AGS-17 Automatic Grenade Launcher
2 ATGM Launchers
smoke dispensers
Cost: $2.4 Million

APC version
Stats:
Crew: 3+9 troops
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 40mm auto cannon
1 15.5mm MGs
1 7.62mm MGs
1 AGS-17 Automatic Grenade Launcher
4 ATGM Launchers
smoke dispensers
Cost: $2.2 Million

ADATS version
Stats:
Crew: 3
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
8 SAM missiles with range of 6km
2 15.5mm MGs
1 7.62 MG
smoke dispensers
Radar capable of detecting threats 30 miles away
Cost: $2.3 Million

ATGM version
Crew: 3
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
10 ATGM tubes(20 missiles carried, can be reloaded in under 1 minute)
2 15.5mm MGs
smoke dispensers
Cost: $2.3 Million

Medivac version:
Crew: 2+Medics
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 15.5mm MGs for self defense
smoke dispensers
room for 4 litters
Cost: $2 million
The nations of Nogova will buy 12 of the ADATS versions of this APC.

*Money sent*
06-10-2003, 03:22
order confirmed
Kotterdam
06-10-2003, 03:57
How much would five conversion kits cost me?

Five full sets of conversion kits would cost you $9,275,000.
Har Land
06-10-2003, 12:30
Consider the contract boosted :)

9.275million will be added onto it, and:

*wired* :wink:
06-10-2003, 12:41
The V Corporation Defence Review

On the Normandy:

"A primitive, yet practical little beast that will go well with any armoured core. Perhaps a little overpriced" - Rating: 8Vs.

On the Wolverine:

"If you are limited on funds, but need a basic solution, then this cost-effective little tank will go all the way" - Rating: 7Vs.
Kotterdam
06-10-2003, 12:53
Consider the contract boosted :)

9.275million will be added onto it, and:

*wired* :wink:

As a sign of our appreciation, the Dominion of Kotterdam is refunding you $275,000 from your order and extending the Democratic Republic of Har Land a twenty percent discount on future purchases. It is our hope that this represents the beginning of a mutually beneficial association. Here in the Dominion, we value our clients greatly. Should you require anything else from our Storefront, do not hesitate to place your order. Should you require something that we do not currently produce, we will design one to your specifications free of charge. It has been a pleasure doing business with you.
Har Land
06-10-2003, 13:00
At KotterDam, thank you, and you'll most likely be hearing from me sa lot :D

Free Rumania, The Democratic Republic of Har Land, in the alliance of the Nogovan Nations, would like to purchase:

8x Standard Version 19.2 Million
6x Adats Version 13.8 Million
2x Medivac Version 4 Million

Total: 37 Million dollars.

*wired*

Thank you Rumania, and Kotterdam for helping create Har Land's first light armor&infantry brigade.
Kotterdam
06-10-2003, 13:14
It has been a pleasure, Har Land. In case you need help finding us, here's our Storefront. As I said, if you need something that's not here, just telegram me with the requirements, and I will design it for you. It's somewhat sad, but I live for that sort of thing. ;)

Kotterdam Military Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74974)
06-10-2003, 13:16
It has been a pleasure, Har Land. In case you need help finding us, here's our Storefront. As I said, if you need something that's not here, just telegram me with the requirements, and I will design it for you. It's somewhat sad, but I live for that sort of thing. ;)

Kotterdam Military Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74974)

Then you should consider a directorship in The V Corporation.
Kotterdam
06-10-2003, 13:30
It has been a pleasure, Har Land. In case you need help finding us, here's our Storefront. As I said, if you need something that's not here, just telegram me with the requirements, and I will design it for you. It's somewhat sad, but I live for that sort of thing. ;)

Kotterdam Military Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74974)

Then you should consider a directorship in The V Corporation.

A tempting offer, but I'm doing just fine designing hardware for Kotterdam right now. Thanks anyway, though. Perhaps we could collaborate on a project or three.
06-10-2003, 14:51
It has been a pleasure, Har Land. In case you need help finding us, here's our Storefront. As I said, if you need something that's not here, just telegram me with the requirements, and I will design it for you. It's somewhat sad, but I live for that sort of thing. ;)

Kotterdam Military Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74974)

Then you should consider a directorship in The V Corporation.

A tempting offer, but I'm doing just fine designing hardware for Kotterdam right now. Thanks anyway, though. Perhaps we could collaborate on a project or three.

Well....you see, our Armour walks and flies for the most part.
Kotterdam
06-10-2003, 15:07
Ah... I see. :lol: Slight tech level difference there. :roll:
Garrison II
09-10-2003, 02:26
Hey Harnu!