NationStates Jolt Archive


Figthing continues with the 2 independant states...

04-10-2003, 18:11
OOC: sry to have ben away, school and other projects are keeping me busy.

IC:
FPC news:
"Today, at about 5:40 in the morning, firefights began at the border with FPC and the newly formed coutnry composed of the 2 revolting states of FPC. Some Listovian soldiers (the rebelling states formed a country and named it Listov) attacked a checkpoint in FPC territory. The FPCians resisted and drew back the Listovians. Later on, several squads of Listovians attacked other checkpoints without major results. Our Emperor and the High Council declared that "These actions are a declaration of war against FPC and comunism! We must quell those rebellous capitalists!". More than 3 million soldiers are preparing to invade the small country held by around 500,000 Livonian soldiers and 2 million inhabitants. These pictures show what the border looks like:

http://www.stalingrad.com.ru/history/foto/chuikov_01-04/chuik-01.jpg

http://www.planetarium.ru/plan/pr/war.JPG

http://www.battlefield.ru/library/lend/lend_tank/matilda_4.jpg
Imperial soldiers charging the invading Listovians
04-10-2003, 18:20
The invasion of Listovia began with a artillery and arial raid. After 2 hours of constant bombings, soldiers and tanks attacked the lightly defended Listovian lines. However, Listovians had many anti-tanks weapons and used them well. The battle for the lines continued well into the evening and ended with much of the FPCian soldiers falling back to their previous positions. Some trenches, however, were taken from Listovian troops.
Casualties:
Listovia - 5,600 dead or wounded + 122 tanks destroyed + 57 artillery pieces.

FPC - 7,000 dead or wounded + 109 tanks destroyed + 8 aircrafts.

http://www.nwha.org/news_3Q2001/resources/july3.jpg
Listovian artillery under fire

http://www.germanvideo.com/images/war/ch836.jpg
FPCian flamethrowers did a lot of damage to Listovian troops
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 18:21
The United States of Independent Hitmen declares its support for the people of Listovia. We hope that they can rid another country of the evil tyrannical communist way of life.
As part of this we are sending weapons and advisors to this new country to help them in their struggle.

-President Anderson in an address to the Congress of Independent Hitmen
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 18:35
Seeing as the Federation negotiated the original peace treaty between the FPC and the Attican Empire that allowed for the creation of Listovia, we have an interest in seeing a peaceful resolution. Can the FPC government provide irrefutable evidence that Listovian forces initiated this conflict?
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 18:42
The First Shipment of M16a2 assualt rifles have arrived in the country on a C-5B along with a hastily assembled group of instructors.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-5-dfst9010235.jpg

Elsewhere the carriers USIHS Phantom and the Edginton along with escorts have been ordered to the coastline to protect US interests.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/stennis-31201.jpg
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 18:56
Secretary-General Annalise Brown convened an emergency session of the Federation Security Council today to discuss the unravelling situation between the FPC and Listovia. The FNS Tiamat and her battle group are rumored to be preparing for deployment.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:01
Secretary-General Annalise Brown convened an emergency session of the Federation Security Council today to discuss the unravelling situation between the FPC and Listovia. The FNS Tiamat and her battle group are rumored to be preparing for deployment.

OOC: You're neutral right? Cos if not im not messing with a December Nation.
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 19:03
OOC: At the moment... yes, the Federation is neutral. :)
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:04
OOC: At the moment... yes, the Federation is neutral. :)
Ok good good.
04-10-2003, 19:09
OOC: FPC, you are aware, that if you look at nations like the USSR invading like Afghanistan, they generally lose.

IC:

From: Kaiser Otto Petinski, Koenige aus Attisca
To: Emperor of FPC

Remove your troops from Listov immediately. This will be our only warning. You have 5 NS hours to comply (ill make that like 30 RL minutes.)
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:11
OOC: FPC, you are aware, that if you look at nations like the USSR invading like Afghanistan, they generally lose.

IC:

From: Kaiser Otto Petinski, Koenige aus Attisca
To: Emperor of FPC

Remove your troops from Listov immediately. This will be our only warning. You have 5 NS hours to comply (ill make that like 30 RL minutes.)

The President concurrs and agrees whole-heartedly with this statement.
04-10-2003, 19:14
Secret IC: To verify that his troops are mobilized in case FPC decides to ignore the ultimatum, the Leichtgepanzertgruppe, the Leichtinfantariegruppe, and the Artilleriegruppe are being prepared near the border. The Grossgepanzertgruppe will only be used if necessary (King Leopard are EXPENSIVE to put in the field, Cheetah's are more economical, albeit weaker, they can still knock out tanks.)

OOC: My current military specs are here: http://www.kuattech.com/Military.xls

OOC2: You are aware how inefficient a 3 million man army would be for a nation of your size? Besides the fact that 500,000 at least of them would be logistics.
04-10-2003, 19:17
OOC: technically, I have no soldiers in Listovia & also, I ignore IH cuz he doesn't know even a slight part of the history that went on a month ago.

IC:
--From FPC--
--To Attica--
I understand your warning but I have physical evidence that Listovia attacked my troops *transfers a video segment of the reported attack on the checkpoint*. Now, I will end hostilities if the Listovian president, Kombayn Triv surrenders to my forces along with the Listovian govt members to face justice.
--OVER--
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:17
OOC: Link doesn't work

IC: If the ultimatum is ignored then United States Aircraft from the carriers that are on route will enagage all FPC troops and aircraft in or over the Independent States.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cvn-68-plane24.jpg
an FA/18 takes off from one of the carriers and starts a CAP as they near FPC waters.
04-10-2003, 19:18
OOC: 3 million men were dispatched to attack Listovia but more are held in reserve notably near other borders and near Listovia itself.
04-10-2003, 19:18
To: FPC
From: Attica
We need better proof. You are aware that Adolph Hitler put SS men into Polish uniforms and had them attack outposts of Germany in order to give him a reason to invade Poland?

OOC: Fixed link.
OOC2: Thats even worse. You are barely larger than me. 3 million men would KILL your economy, and together, they would work very inefficiently. They must be partisans, which means they are badly trained.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:20
OOC:I DONT care about the history, this is communism trying to destroy and Independent FREE state and we will try our hardest to protect this FREE state.
04-10-2003, 19:21
--From FPC--
--to Attica--
Another proof, on the bodies of the Listovians soldiers, my men found tatoos taht some units that previously had rebelled had on their left arm. This was a special sign for the unit. Another proof, the terrorist group TGC sent us a video tape in wich the leader of TGC formely declared that he had sent some men himself and weapons in those raids. I can send you the video tape if you want. *send the the tape of TGC*
--OVER--
04-10-2003, 19:23
To: FPC
From: Attica
We have reason to beleive the tapes are forged. Next thing we will hear there are WMDs in Listov! Our ultimatum stands.
04-10-2003, 19:23
OOC:I DONT care about the history, this is communism trying to destroy and Independent FREE state and we will try our hardest to protect this FREE state.

OOC:well I don't care if you do anything cuz you'D be attacking my soldiers + Felimid MacFall soldiers + McLeod 03 soldiers in the process. Also, Listovia ain't such a free country. Listovians are ruled by a military govt wich denies the right of leaving the country to their citizens. This was explained in previous threads. So get your story straight.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 19:25
Secret IC to Attican: Having heard of the conflict brewing in Listovia, AllBritain has despatched its special operations unit to try and aid Listovia in its defence, AllBritain will refrain from any attacks until requested to do so.
04-10-2003, 19:26
OOC: Felimid nor McLeod03 never stated they would support you in an attack on Listov, only an attack on your territory.
04-10-2003, 19:26
OOC: Felimid nor McLeod03 never stated they would support you in an attack on Listov, only an attack on your territory.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:27
OOC:I DONT care about the history, this is communism trying to destroy and Independent FREE state and we will try our hardest to protect this FREE state.

OOC:well I don't care if you do anything cuz you'D be attacking my soldiers + Felimid MacFall soldiers + McLeod 03 soldiers in the process. Also, Listovia ain't such a free country. Listovians are ruled by a military govt wich denies the right of leaving the country to their citizens. This was explained in previous threads. So get your story straight.

Mcleod i not worrying about, Macfall i will look up and maybe worry about. This may be so, but you are still trying to oppress them even more, one of the terms of the United States coming to the aid of this country (discussed in private) was that there will be free elections after the war.
04-10-2003, 19:28
OOC: Attica, 3 million men won'T kill my economy. It is not even 2 % of my population. And you know that my country can work on it's own. Citizens in factories build tanks and weapons, and taxes are used to pay soldiers, buy food for the population... Everything is used.
04-10-2003, 19:29
OOC: Anything over a 1% part of your population would be devastating. Plus, remember how much it costs you to build those tanks and weapons, and feed them. I use a 10% military budget. If you did, you have $42,571,035,000 for defense. Now, 3 million men costs a LOT to feed well, and shelter. If they are getting bad food and shelter, their morale is low.
04-10-2003, 19:31
OOC: SFG, if I were you, I wouldn't get involved since you have less political freedom and less civil rights than my country.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:33
OOC: Been looking for Felimid MacFall but cant find his nation or any reference on the forum search
04-10-2003, 19:36
*Secret message code 3*
--From FPC--
--To Attica--
Ok, here is what I propose. I stop the war, eventhough I have every right to attack them, and you give me the Listovian dictator and his ministers so that they can face justice.
--OVER--
04-10-2003, 19:36
To: FPC
From: Attica
He will be tried in an international court, not an FPC court.
04-10-2003, 19:38
--From FPC--
--To Attica--
No, his ministers can be trialed in an international court but not the dictator himself.
--OVER--
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 19:38
OOC: SFG is a military wing of AllBritain, a strongly anti-communist country. ITs troops are highly specialized in "under cover warfare" such as espionage and assassination. Also they believe that their presence is unknown to you.
04-10-2003, 19:39
To: FPC
From: Attica
Then our ultimatum stands.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:40
OOC: SFG is a military wing of AllBritain, a strongly anti-communist country. ITs troops are highly specialized in "under cover warfare" such as espionage and assassination. Also they believe that their presence is unknown to you.

we are very anti-communist as well :)
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 19:42
OOC: I forgot about you IH when typing my message, it was also sent to you (sorry) :D
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:43
OOC: I forgot about you IH when typing my message, it was also sent to you (sorry) :D
nps :)

IC: The United States Ultimatium also stands.
04-10-2003, 19:43
OOC: guys, communism doesn't mean tyranny nor opression. My people, in fact, have lot's of political freedom and civil rights. They can even choose their emperor! So, your accusations of an my govt being an evil tyranical communist regime are unfounded.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:46
OOC: guys, communism doesn't mean tyranny nor opression. My people, in fact, have lot's of political freedom and civil rights. They can even choose their emperor! So, your accusations of an my govt being an evil tyranical communist regime are unfounded.

OOC:Dont care i wanna war!
IC: We have no proof that what you say is correct. Certain Intelligence would prove otherwise.
04-10-2003, 19:47
OOC: I am well aware of what communism is, and there has never been true communism in the world. If you claim to be true communism, you are lying. It ISN'T POSSIBLE.
04-10-2003, 19:47
OOC: guys, communism doesn't mean tyranny nor opression. My people, in fact, have lot's of political freedom and civil rights. They can even choose their emperor! So, your accusations of an my govt being an evil tyranical communist regime are unfounded.

OOC:Dont care i wanna war!
IC: We have no proof that what you say is correct. Certain Intelligence would prove otherwise.

OOC: Don'T care! I ignore you!
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 19:47
OOC: guys, communism doesn't mean tyranny nor opression. My people, in fact, have lot's of political freedom and civil rights. They can even choose their emperor! So, your accusations of an my govt being an evil tyranical communist regime are unfounded.

OOC: So you call few "lot's"? Also you are attacking another country much smaller than you. As a semi-democratic country AllBritain objects to that. I will switch sides if Listovia is overly aggressive, eg if they refuse to a peace treat which has no adverse affect on them
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:48
OOC: guys, communism doesn't mean tyranny nor opression. My people, in fact, have lot's of political freedom and civil rights. They can even choose their emperor! So, your accusations of an my govt being an evil tyranical communist regime are unfounded.

OOC:Dont care i wanna war!
IC: We have no proof that what you say is correct. Certain Intelligence would prove otherwise.

OOC: Don'T care! I ignore you!

O god the IGNORE missiles are flying.
04-10-2003, 19:48
OOC: I am well aware of what communism is, and there has never been true communism in the world. If you claim to be true communism, you are lying. It ISN'T POSSIBLE.

OOC: I don'T and never claimed to be a true communist. If people would listen to what I say, they would know that my country's economy is based on communism and not many other aspects.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 19:49
OOC: When is the deadline due?
04-10-2003, 19:50
OOC: Right about now. Umm... FPC, you have no basis to ignore him on.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:50
OOC: When is the deadline due?

Bout 5mins ago i think lol. But my carriers need more time to get in place, also theres the small problem of him ignoring me.
04-10-2003, 19:51
OOC: guys, communism doesn't mean tyranny nor opression. My people, in fact, have lot's of political freedom and civil rights. They can even choose their emperor! So, your accusations of an my govt being an evil tyranical communist regime are unfounded.

OOC: So you call few "lot's"? Also you are attacking another country much smaller than you. As a semi-democratic country AllBritain objects to that. I will switch sides if Listovia is overly aggressive, eg if they refuse to a peace treat which has no adverse affect on them

My country's also has democracy. I wish to give Listovia a peace treaty. Simple: surrender their dictator to my forces and they peace will be made. Simpel as that. Don'T know why so many outside nations are against it? :?:
04-10-2003, 19:52
OOC: Because you are imposing your laws on a foreign country?
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 19:52
IC: As the Attican empire's deadline passes, SFG's forward units begin to slip through enemy lines and begin scouting out the area
04-10-2003, 19:52
OOC: your so called reasons to invade my are injustifiable. I have no troops in Listovia. There is only a state of war. Also, I wish to make peace and I demand only one thing. It ain'T much.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:53
OOC: your so called reasons to invade my are injustifiable. I have no troops in Listovia. There is only a state of war. Also, I wish to make peace and I demand only one thing. It ain'T much.

Your initial posts say other wise. AND IF YOU read my posts you would see that id only be engaging forces in Listovia!
04-10-2003, 19:54
OOC: Ok, I will demand only one thing in the same sense, your emperor surrenders and is tried in an Attican court. There. And you stated your intentions to invade, that is enough.
04-10-2003, 19:54
OOC: Because you are imposing your laws on a foreign country?

OOC: Did I ever said that I wanted to impose my laws on foreign countries? If I recal, it's you who wanted so much to impose your laws in FPC and even helped rebels in my country. All I want is the dictator / self-elected president of Listovia to face FPC justice.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:54
OOC: Ok, I will demand only one thing in the same sense, your emperor surrenders and is tried in an Attican court. There. And you stated your intentions to invade, that is enough.

No he must be tried in an international court.
04-10-2003, 19:55
OOC: I am stating it on the same terms he did. He stated that the leader of the independent nation would be tried in an FPC court, so I reversed it.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 19:56
Yeah but we have to give and take. Both Leaders could be tried in the same court.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 19:57
OOC: guys, communism doesn't mean tyranny nor opression. My people, in fact, have lot's of political freedom and civil rights. They can even choose their emperor! So, your accusations of an my govt being an evil tyranical communist regime are unfounded.

OOC: So you call few "lot's"? Also you are attacking another country much smaller than you. As a semi-democratic country AllBritain objects to that. I will switch sides if Listovia is overly aggressive, eg if they refuse to a peace treat which has no adverse affect on them

My country's also has democracy. I wish to give Listovia a peace treaty. Simple: surrender their dictator to my forces and they peace will be made. Simpel as that. Don'T know why so many outside nations are against it? :?:

OOC: You call yourself communism and with the strong anti-communist feelings going around this is all the excuse AllBritain's forces need. Also i said it had to have no adverse affect on them. Losing their leader would. SFG might agree with the terms proposed by Attican but not otherwise.
OOC2: I have to go and do something now. SFG troops will begin sabotaging any easy targets or assassinate comanders once they have completed scouting. There are about 300 special force troops in there and another 400 in reserve. Bye!
04-10-2003, 19:58
OOC: I am saying it in sarcastic terms in response to his statement that his demands were not much.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 20:01
From what i read earlier, you're forces had counter-attacked and driven into Listovia, if otherwise (which i doubt), SFG troops will continue in their operation, but will stop if Listovia gets too far in. Also you dont know that im there at the moment until you succeed in capturing and torturing one of my men (who all have instructions to kill themselves in event of capture).
04-10-2003, 20:04
http://www.kuattech.com/map.jpg

Is that pretty accurate?
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 20:07
Cool map
04-10-2003, 20:28
OOC: your so called reasons to invade my are injustifiable. I have no troops in Listovia. There is only a state of war. Also, I wish to make peace and I demand only one thing. It ain'T much.

Your initial posts say other wise. AND IF YOU read my posts you would see that id only be engaging forces in Listovia!

AND IF YOU would read my posts, you would know that I have no troops in Listovia. The last pockets of my solders that were in Listovia were eliminated or had to fall back.
04-10-2003, 20:30
It's pretty accurate Attica but remembers, along your border with Listovia, there are checkpoints from several nations that were set up after the 2nd separatist war. Also, right now, I do not share borders with you. All my access via your lands are held by Listovia.
04-10-2003, 20:36
--From FPC--
--To Attica--
Ok, I'll agree to the trial of the dictator of Listovia and he's ministers in a foreign court but the judges must be decided by Autonomous city states.
--OVER--
04-10-2003, 20:36
That changes my map. My map had Listovia as a small nation, we shared a border in the south but there were numerous terrain problems there to be militarilly able.
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 20:44
IC: All the governments involved receive a secure transmission from Crookfur intellegence with verifiable satalite that contains a real time recording of Listovian force engageing in unprovoked attacks against FPC positions. Also included are recordings of AGS (air ground sensor) imagery taken by Crookfur Stand off radar platforms in the area showing the entire engagement to the current time.

All of the data is in it's raw standard data sharing form and has not (and can't be found to have) been tapered with.


OOC: if i remeber correctly i still have 4 divisions worth of troops in the Attican/FPC/Litovian border areas. but maybe i reduced the force to 1 division at some point (assume i did).
04-10-2003, 20:47
Crookfur - we still dont know if they were FPC redressed soldiers or so.

FPC- Tgram
04-10-2003, 20:53
I am new here, and I really don't know how to do anything....but i will help the FPC cause i like communism...litovia must die...
I will put my 5 000 000 inhabitants working on it... :P
04-10-2003, 20:55
You dont have any weapons or industry, etc...
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:08
IC: If FPC is definitely willing to accept this peace treaty, SFG will withdraw its toops.

OOC:_Lenin, don't bother attempting anything to support FPC, you will be crushed if you do.
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 21:08
The 10th Infantry Division and the 11th Mechanized Infantry division have begun loading onto WASP class landing ships in the First Port of Independent Hitmen.
Destination is thought to be the waters close to the Attican Empire.
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 21:09
The Federation would be willing try any war criminal by an independent tribunal on board the FNS Tiamat, whose battle group is en route to the region.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:09
OOC: Tme for a difficult decision

<Secret Message>
TO: IH, FACS
FROM: MAFCCP

What is your real stance in teh conflict

<Message end>


<Secret Message>
TO: Attican Empire
FROM: MAFCCP

Time to honour our alliance. Lets deal with FPC once and for all.

<Message end>


<Secret Message>
TO: FPC
FROM: MAFCCP

Cease this act of aggression towards a free and independant state NOW.

<Message end>


<Secret Message>
TO: Litovia
FROM: MAFCCP

We will help you in this war. Will you accept our troops being deployed to help you?

<Message end>


<Secret Message>
TO: _Lenin
FROM: MAFCCP

Support him and you will be utterly destroyed.

<Message end>
04-10-2003, 21:11
OOC: THis is what we should consider the Map of the Attican Peninsula to be:

http://www.kuattech.com/map.jpg

I do not have FPC's verification yet, but I see no problems with it. I still have to make room for Vampiric Domonion (think Turkey).
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 21:12
<-Message to Leader of Mcleod03->

We will expel FPC troops and infulence from the INDEPENDENT nation and would possibly follow them a few miles into FPC proper.(Kinda like Golf War One where only a few Americans went into Iraq proper)
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:12
OOC: You forgot about me Mcleod.
P.S. my stance is to defend Listovia
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:13
<-Message to Leader of Mcleod03->

We will expel FPC troops and infulence from the INDEPENDENT nation and would possibly follow them a few miles into FPC proper.(Kinda like Golf War One where only a few Americans went into Iraq proper)

<Secret Message>
TO: IH
FROM: King James IV

We will follow and leap-frog past, putting this communist down once and for all.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:14
OOC: You forgot about me Mcleod.
P.S. my stance is to defend Listovia

OOC: Thats probably because you weren't involved last time, and i haven't read all of the thread yet. But you will be seen as a neutral or friendly country, not an ally until you do something worthy of it.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:16
OOC: Has the peace treaty been implemented yet?
04-10-2003, 21:17
Secret IC:
To: King James IV of McLeod03
From: Kaiser Otto Petinski, Koenig aus Attiska und Vampirreich

We will be reserving our heavy tanks (IE King Leopard) until they are needed, as although they are powerful, they are heavy and expensive to maintain in the field. We will rush the assault by first attacking with artillery barrages. Our light armor will rush in to free the states again, and will move on to establish a foothold in FPC. We will support the light armor with the infantry divisions. AF-100s will obviously pound FPC positions.
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 21:18
Crookfur - we still dont know if they were FPC redressed soldiers or so.

FPC- Tgram


Take a look at the AGS data. Unless FPC managed to get dressed up forces to emerge from Listovian bases and then mount an attack on his forces then i doubt your claims are at all true.

of course you are seemingly set your course...
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 21:18
<-Message to Leader of Mcleod03->

We will expel FPC troops and infulence from the INDEPENDENT nation and would possibly follow them a few miles into FPC proper.(Kinda like Golf War One where only a few Americans went into Iraq proper)

<Secret Message>
TO: IH
FROM: King James IV

We will follow and leap-frog past, putting this communist down once and for all.

OOC:Got to go play a CS clan match, i will b back later.
IC: United States Aircraft from the carriers Phantom and Edginton have been scrambled and are forming a screen between FPC and the Carrier Battle Groups. The Groups will hold their position until the landing ships arrive, and they will then land in an undisclosed location with heavy carrier support.

A state of war now exists between FPC and the United States of Independent Hitmen.

In accordance with this all Military Forces have been placed on RED alert and some national guard units have been called up for extra Guard Duty along with normal forces.
04-10-2003, 21:20
Secret IC:

On McLeod03s command, Attican artillery will begin attacking FPC positions. AF-100s will also begin attacking FPC positions. 10 minutes after the artillery pounding, Light Armor (Cheetahs holding fort) and the Light Infantry will move in to occupy the areas (and free the states). Once the states are liberated, we will establish a foothold in FPC territory, blah blah blah already went over strategy.
04-10-2003, 21:20
Secret IC:

On McLeod03s command, Attican artillery will begin attacking FPC positions. AF-100s will also begin attacking FPC positions. 10 minutes after the artillery pounding, Light Armor (Cheetahs holding fort) and the Light Infantry will move in to occupy the areas (and free the states). Once the states are liberated, we will establish a foothold in FPC territory, blah blah blah already went over strategy.
04-10-2003, 21:21
OOC: Read this thread btw: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77600.

No, I am NOT VD.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:22
<Secret Message>
TO: Kaiser Otto Petinski, Koenig aus Attiska und Vampirreich
FROM: MAFCCP, King James IV

We will provide armoured infantry support, as well as medium to heavy tank support into the FPC flanks from our base inside his country.

Our AC-130s and A-10s will provide fire-support to your advance, whilst F-96s maintain full air-superiority, and AL-52s keep missiles at bay.

Just give the word, and the attacks will begin. Suggest canelling War Games, and our troops deployed there will be able to provide further support to your attacks.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:25
In response to this new development, the leaders of SFG and AllBritain have held an emergency cabinet meeting. Upon leaving the meeting, the PM of AllBritain holds an emergency press conference.
"Due to the unprovoked attack (OOC: the AllBritain public has not been told about the start of the war) on Listovia, the nation of AllBritain has declared war on the communist state of FPC. Navel group Alpha consisting of one aircraft carrier and numerous support vessels has been sent to the Attican/FPC coast along with a small expeditionary force of 100,000 men. AllBritain will not rest until this evil country has been cleared from the planet."
04-10-2003, 21:26
Secret IC:
To: MAFCCP, King James IV of McLeod03
From: Kaiser Otto Petinski, Koenig aus Attiska und Vampirreich

Yes, my Simulation Troops would not be very good against real soldiers (painter guns arent good in war). When my artillery barrages begin, the war may begin. My AF-100s will be armed with anti-ground weaponry.

OOC: At the end of the war we will have a suprise for everyone, it will be cool.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:30
OOC: Attican, lets do this. SFG, join in at any time, IH, same goes.

IC: McLeodian forces flood from inside AE towards the FPC border in numerous APCs, tanks, and trucks. This is of course, unseen to FPC.

At the McLeodian base inside FPC, forces set up well defended positions, and a large armoured column forms, consisting of T-96s and M-3A2 Bradleys. Air support takes off, and 48 F-96s launch, supported by 2 AL-52s, an AWACS, a JSTARS, 2 MEB-1c Motherships and their 8 StealthHawk escort UCAVs.

Next, the attack waves take off, consisting of 12 AC-130s, and 24 A-10s, as well as a group of 6 F-15Es, which take off then fly low level towards a known FPC base, handling sluggishly due to the heavy loadout.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:32
<Secret message>
To: IH
From: General Pontin of SFG
My troops are at your disposal. Tell em where you wish them to strike and i will disrupt them severely
<message ends>

<Message to Attiacan Empire>
AllBritain formally requests that its troops be allowed to disembark in Attican territory to launch an attack on FPC.
<message ends>
04-10-2003, 21:33
The Attican Artillery just outside of the border on the Attican side begin firing shells onto FPC positions. AF-100s with ground attack arsenal take off from their airbases, with AF-100s with anti-air weapons as escort. The tanks and infantry begin rolling, waiting for the artillery to stop.
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 21:33
Three AeroScout AWACS UAVs signal the Federation's approach into the region. The Tiamat itself is surfaced and running BARCAP operations while the remainder of its battle group stays submerged.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:34
<Message to Attiacan Empire>
AllBritain formally requests that its troops be allowed to disembark in Attican territory to launch an attack on FPC.
<message ends>

I know this was probably secret, but i have a LARGE base inside FPC you can use. Its well defended and positioned. Great for a counter-attack against FPC me thinks.
04-10-2003, 21:34
Secret IC:
To SFG:

Well, it depends which coast of Attica you wish to depart on. The seawall covers our entire coast (yes, it is DONE after many years), except for our ports, which are rather far from accessable terrain, unless you want to cross the mountains.
04-10-2003, 21:35
Secret IC:

To ACS:

May we use intelligence obtained from your AWACS aircraft?

Secret IC2:

3 RF-111s take off to observe FPC troop movements.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:36
AllBritain and SFG welcome the offer of the use of McLeods base and as the recently arrived units begin to disembark, they make their way to it.
04-10-2003, 21:37
Secret IC: To McLeod03

Do you have any fast tank-carrying aircraft we can use to quickly mobilize some Cheetah units?
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 21:37
Secret IC: The AeroScout UAVs will provide data to McLeod forces as part of our mutual defense arrangement. What they do with it after we provide them the information is their discretion.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:39
Almost all AllBritain and SFG troops are on foot and adept at difficult terrain (AllBritain's entire northern half is mountains and hills). The few remaining vehicles will wait until a suitable site for landing is found.

Meanwhile: Thirty fighter-bomber aircraft take of from the carrier ABS Impeccable heading for supply bases and so on that SFG troops have discovered in their scouting.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:40
AllBritain and SFG welcome the offer of the use of McLeods base and as the recently arrived units begin to disembark, they make their way to it.

It has large runways and naval fcailites, so there is no reason why your units couldn't disembark there.

<Meanwhile, in McLeod03>

A non-descript flight of three modified DC-10s takes off, heading to high-altitdue off the coast of the Attican Empire.

On reaching a pre-calculated altitude, large bay doors under the aircraft open, and four boosters fall from under each. Each booster ignites, heading into outer-space.

The twelve boosters put a geo-stationary NIRTSSAT super-constellation nto orbit over FPC, Litovia, and a fair proprtion of the Attican border.

This gives my commanders full day and night maps of the battlefield, using infra-red, normal, and NV images 24-7.
04-10-2003, 21:41
The Attican Empire begins subsequent launches of intelligence sattelites (Yes, our space tech has improved dramatically due to increased spending), totalling 4 launches, above the Empire of FPC.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:42
Secret IC: To McLeod03

Do you have any fast tank-carrying aircraft we can use to quickly mobilize some Cheetah units?

Hmm. Only C-5s. Possibly, depending on its size, it could be fitted into an MV-42. (jet powered larger version of V-22). If so, this would make for the ideal transport craft. VTOL, with a large payload.
04-10-2003, 21:43
How much weight can it carry?
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:45
How much weight can it carry?

Around 45 tonnes.

How much does the tank weigh, and how far do you want to go with it? Its payload is big enough, the jets give it a lot of power, it all depends on how far you need the tanks to go.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:45
SFG forces behind the lines of FPC have continued their reconnaissance and have targeted two key supply depots for the enemy. The fighter-bombers have been redirected towards these installations.

Meanwhile the AllBritain army has disembarked and is now at McLeod's base, preparing for an assault.
04-10-2003, 21:45
OOC: I think we should wait a moment, I want to know FPCs casualties from my artillery barrages.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 21:47
OOC: I think we should wait a moment, I want to know FPCs casualties from my artillery barrages.

OOC: Good plan. I'll be back in a couple of hours, until then consider my forces to be in stasis. They are there, just not engaging.

OOC Reminder; FPC, you don't know whether i am hostile yet, so until i open fire, you should really consider me an ally who is concerned about the well being of Litovian citizens.
Edolia
04-10-2003, 21:48
Message from the Edolian High Command
Though we cannot make a judgement on the nature of the war between FPC and Litov, we see the attack against FPC as an attack against Socialism and we will not stand for it. As such, a large Edolian taskforce is being dispatched to the region via our large fleet of transport jets: They will arrive over the course of the next three days (NST):

220,000 regulars
40,000 Royal Guardsmen
15,000 Hellenic Corps troops
(275,000 total)

2,600 B-1 Imperium unmanned MBTs
800 Gryphon-II Helicopter gunships
800 Echidna class SAM batteries

This force will be positioned to defend the FPC borders from enemy aggression. However, 20% of it will be kept throughout the country as reserves.

A large force of planes is being dispatched as well:
1,200 YT/A-2 Hellion unmanned fighter/interceptor
1,200 PL/A-1 Scarab unmanned fighter/bombers
500 Roc heavy bombers

<<OOC: McLeod-- Please give a more detailed account of this base that you have within FPC.

A note on Edolian troops and weaponry: Edolia plays modern + a little bit tech. Thus, most of our weaponry is a bit more advanced than modern technology and all of our tanks and fighters (not the bombers) are unmanned, controlled via robust data link from Edolia. (I've done a good deal of research on this and it is valid technology). My fighters are also equipped with scramjets (supposed to be out by 2008) and are extremely fast and maneuverable.

Edolia has a very small army relative to our size (about a million soldiers) but our troops are EXTREMELY well trained. Thus, the 275,000 soldiers I sent are worth many more than that of regular troops from other countries. Even the regulars would be considered highly elite compared to the troops used by other countries.

If you have any questions regarding our tech, please telegram me.>>
04-10-2003, 21:52
IC: The Attican Seawall prepares it's defenses because war is in sight.

OOC: Yes, my forces are in stasis as well until FPC participates.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:52
Upon hearing the news that a country has come to the aid of FPC, AllBritain has decided to dispatch another fleet group including two more carriers as well as another 100,000 men and 100 medium tanks.
Meanwhile the AllBritain aircraft have almost reached their targets, while the troops have finished preparations and are marching to the border.
04-10-2003, 21:53
OOC: Still, Your regulars vs my Kaiserheer (special forces) on my land would get owned.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 21:55
I take it FPC is not available atm. Consider my forces to be in stasis until he returns.
Edolia
04-10-2003, 21:56
OOC: Still, Your regulars vs my Kaiserheer (special forces) on my land would get owned.

<<OOC: Probably. However, my Royal Guardsmen and to a greater extent Hellenic Corps could probably mop the floor with most anyone though that is certainly up for debate,

BTW, I forgot to mention that my troops are all armed with a system similar to the US Objective Force Warrior (OFW) combat suit. Again, if you want info on that, please telegram me.>>
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 21:57
As the Tiamat battle group takes up station in international waters off the coast of Litovia, the Federation reiterates its call to serve as neutral ground for the peaceful resolution for this conflict and asks for a cessation of hostilities until diplomacy has been exhausted. Delegations from the FPC, Litovia, the Attican Empire, and other interested parties are invited to attend a conference on board the Tiamat.
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 21:58
<<<Trends of the Fox>>>(top social/political comentary show on the CFBC).

Tonight we bring you the latest viewing figures:

Comming as a suprise to many the live feeds from Our military's sattelites over FPC are proving a ratings smash. it has been suggested that the presence of a division of Crookfur troops in the area afflicted by this conflict. As yet the government has remained tight lipped on why they allowing this fottage, much of it being of a highly sensitive nature to those involved, to be displayed on openly broadcast television, with much of it being picked up and recast through the world. The only comment conerning this matter is from the Culture minister Gerald Steele:

"this footage has been released to remind all those involved that the world is watching them. While we are fully prepared to support a diplomatic resolution the Crookfur government wishs to point out it's unhappiness with the blatant war mongering those involved wish to indulge in."
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 21:58
OOC: Still, Your regulars vs my Kaiserheer (special forces) on my land would get owned.

<<OOC: Probably. However, my Royal Guardsmen and to a greater extent Hellenic Corps could probably mop the floor with most anyone though that is certainly up for debate,

BTW, I forgot to mention that my troops are all armed with a system similar to the US Objective Force Warrior (OFW) combat suit. Again, if you want info on that, please telegram me.>>

OOC: Unique... just like everyone else? :P
04-10-2003, 21:59
OOC: You must remember, your troops would be fighting on MY land, my men know the land and would die for it. The Kaiserheer are the best trained of my military. My regulars are also rather well trained.

IC: The dispatch from ACS never arrives in Attica. A storm in southern Attica knocked down a telephone line, keeping the message from getting there.
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 22:01
The invitations are also broadcast to the capitol cities of the FPC, Attican Empire, and Litovia by radio transmission from the high-altitude AeroScout UAVs.
04-10-2003, 22:02
IC: The AF-100s taking off, several took off from Attica City. Part of their pre-flight check is radar jamming, which disrupted the communication, which came in distorted.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 22:02
AllBritain has sent a delegation to the Tiarnat but insists it will not agree to anything without the support of the major parties.
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 22:05
Secret IC to Autonomous City-states:


While Crookfur air elements are currently grounded, if you wish we can launch some of our EW Super vulcans and ensure that all the combat units involved will hear your broadcast.

Of course some protection for our rahter expensive planes would be nice, we can escort them with our fighters but some of yours would be most welcome.
04-10-2003, 22:07
Hi im the leader of oh great bobkes from the world of "economy" we wil happily join ur forces

callum
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 22:12
Hi im the leader of oh great bobkes from the world of "economy" we wil happily join ur forces

callum


Which forces?

We urge all previously uninvolved parties to refrain from pushing head long into this conflict unless of course you wish to declare for some sort of possible future stabilization force in which case please join Autonomous City-states and myself in pushing for a shift end to this needless conflict.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 22:12
Hi im the leader of oh great bobkes from the world of "economy" we wil happily join ur forces

callum

a) which side
b) the sides are currently in stasis until FPC begins participating again (ie posts casualty figures)
04-10-2003, 22:13
we have a very strong air force with fighter jets and land to air missiles and other aircrafts called the TK1000 which have an onboard new tehnology jet propultion unit capable up to speeds of 2x the speed of light, impossilbe you say im affraid not anymore

callum leader of great bobkes
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 22:13
Secret IC to Autonomous City-states:


While Crookfur air elements are currently grounded, if you wish we can launch some of our EW Super vulcans and ensure that all the combat units involved will hear your broadcast.

Of course some protection for our rahter expensive planes would be nice, we can escort them with our fighters but some of yours would be most welcome.

Secret to Crookfur IC: It appears that the Attican Empire is not willing to negotiate a peaceful settlement and is actively jamming outside transmissions except from its designated allies. There is no need to put your planes in harm's way at this time. Our only purpose here is to ensure Litovia's sovereignty and to prevent mass civilian casualties. If the FPC and Attica want to go to war so badly, we will not stop them this time. Perhaps they should learn their lessons the hard way.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 22:13
Hi im the leader of oh great bobkes from the world of "economy" we wil happily join ur forces

callum


Which forces?

We urge all previously uninvolved parties to refrain from pushing head long into this conflict unless of course you wish to declare for some sort of possible future stabilization force in which case please join Autonomous City-states and myself in pushing for a shift end to this needless conflict.

AllBritain (and all subsidiary parts (ie SFG)) wouldd also like an end to the war. However, it does not wish to cease fighting until all parties are willing to do so.
04-10-2003, 22:14
we would like to join forces with you.

callum
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 22:15
we have a very strong air force with fighter jets and land to air missiles and other aircrafts called the TK1000 which have an onboard new tehnology jet propultion unit capable up to speeds of 2x the speed of light, impossilbe you say im affraid not anymore

callum leader of great bobkes

Consider yourself ignored due to god-modding:
Reason-anything travelling at FTL will be travelling at a much slower time than the rest of the world. The faster you go, the slower time is for you. ie if you spend even one second at FTL 100 years (or so) will have passed by the time you arrived.
04-10-2003, 22:17
Then we shall art thou join forces against you
04-10-2003, 22:17
sogetsu are willing to help FPC in the war if then want it, we will be able to send aircraft carriers
04-10-2003, 22:18
Secret IC to Autonomous City-states:


While Crookfur air elements are currently grounded, if you wish we can launch some of our EW Super vulcans and ensure that all the combat units involved will hear your broadcast.

Of course some protection for our rahter expensive planes would be nice, we can escort them with our fighters but some of yours would be most welcome.

Secret to Crookfur IC: It appears that the Attican Empire is not willing to negotiate a peaceful settlement and is actively jamming outside transmissions except from its designated allies. There is no need to put your planes in harm's way at this time. Our only purpose here is to ensure Litovia's sovereignty and to prevent mass civilian casualties. If the FPC and Attica want to go to war so badly, we will not stop them this time. Perhaps they should learn their lessons the hard way.

We shall help you in this diplomatic arguement
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 22:19
we have a very strong air force with fighter jets and land to air missiles and other aircrafts called the TK1000 which have an onboard new tehnology jet propultion unit capable up to speeds of 2x the speed of light, impossilbe you say im affraid not anymore

callum leader of great bobkes

Consider yourself ignored due to god-modding:
Reason-anything travelling at FTL will be travelling at a much slower time than the rest of the world. The faster you go, the slower time is for you. ie if you spend even one second at FTL 100 years (or so) will have passed by the time you arrived.

plus the fact that a nation of your size would not be able to have developed such technology. I'm sorry but this is supposed to be realistic.
04-10-2003, 22:20
we have a very strong air force with fighter jets and land to air missiles and other aircrafts called the TK1000 which have an onboard new tehnology jet propultion unit capable up to speeds of 2x the speed of sound, impossilbe you say im affraid not anymore

callum leader of great bobkes
Voleri
04-10-2003, 22:21
The People's Republic of Voleri would like to help FPC by sending 500,000 ground troops, 300 fighter jets, an aircraft carrier and a 200 tanks.
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 22:23
we have a very strong air force with fighter jets and land to air missiles and other aircrafts called the TK1000 which have an onboard new tehnology jet propultion unit capable up to speeds of 2x the speed of sound, impossilbe you say im affraid not anymore

callum leader of great bobkes

I'm assuming that this is a correction of your earlier post; if so i take back everything i said
04-10-2003, 22:23
FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING BIG HEADED FUCKIN WANK STAIN
04-10-2003, 22:24
in the rong forum
04-10-2003, 22:25
we have a very strong air force with fighter jets and land to air missiles and other aircrafts called the TK1000 which have an onboard new tehnology jet propultion unit capable up to speeds of 2x the speed of sound, impossilbe you say im affraid not anymore

callum leader of great bobkes

I'm assuming that this is a correction of your earlier post; if so i take back everything i said
Special Force Gamma
04-10-2003, 22:26
OOC:I have to go elsewhere agian i'm afraid. I hereby give Attican control of my army/navy to do with as he wishes (although nothing stupid, eg suicide runs). IC: A further 200,000 troops have been sent to the conflict zone along with 100 more medium and heavy tanks.
04-10-2003, 22:27
so are we joining forces in this diplomatic fight?
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 22:27
Ahem please play nicely children.


Bobkes: that was simply uncalled for and has significantly lowered any esteme we may have had for you.

A good look at all the past of the events between FPC and Attica is well advised before anyone tries to get involved in this quagmire.


As to getting troops into either nation remeber that the seas surrounding them as possitivly full of carrier battle groups.
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 22:29
As to those wishing to take part in any future peace keeping operations please state your intent and some diplomatic words, Autonomous City-states and myself will likely get back to you as it is far too early for any serious consideratiosn to be made.
04-10-2003, 22:31
as i sed we have a very strong air force with fighter jets and land to air missiles and other aircrafts called the TK1000 which have an onboard new tehnology jet propultion unit capable up to speeds of 2x the speed of sound, impossilbe you say im affraid not anymore, also we have aircraft carriers and tanks and troops and subs any kind of army capability so we coud provide any help you need and also our troops will be prepared to go in to battle first to secure the area.

callum leader of great bobkes
04-10-2003, 22:35
No you dont...
04-10-2003, 22:35
Were not a nation to take a backseat we would like to help either side to stop this and get it over and done with quickly and as fast and as powerful as we can
04-10-2003, 22:38
you dont know what our nation is capable of and we have our own sectret sources which mean we DO have a jet propultion unit whcih is that owerful, and more powerful then any of your slacking scientist can make so i would under estimate our capabilities
Independent Hitmen
04-10-2003, 22:39
In Independent Hitmen a rumble is heard at numerous air bases.

The Sources, B-52s, B-2s and B-1s taking off to hit targets inside FPC.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b-2_shadow.jpg

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b22f117.jpg

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b-52-990483c.jpg

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b-52h-0122b52.jpg

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b-1b-990574b.jpg

IF NATIONS STOP SUPPORTING FPC THIS AIR FLEET WILL NOT HAVE TO VISIT YOUR MILITARY COMMAND AND CONTROL AREAS.
04-10-2003, 22:40
OOC: Bobkes, my X-1000 engine (developed by FC) is capable of Mach4 (under optimal conditions, which is rare.). Your military would be slaughtered if it came as an aggressor to Attica (my coastal defenses would destroy anything.) Of course, I am developing a 2 engine AF-110 because the X-1000 is expensive.
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 22:40
OOC: Bobkes, chill out... your nation is simply too young to do all the things you've claimed. Unless you learn to tone it down, bigger, smarter, and stronger nations will bitchslap you until you get it right. It's not a pretty sight, either.
04-10-2003, 22:43
Face it "independant hitmen" you will never win and because of ur stupidity and unleadership qualities we are now sending 10 of our TK1000 over to do a fly by bombing and dont even waste youre time trying to shoot them they will be far too fast
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 22:43
Bobkes: Yes we fully belive that you have aircraft capable of Mach2+, after all anyone with post 1960s tech can fully claim to have such aircraft.

Making such overely prideful statements is not a process that is goign to engender you with much support. Relax and take time over your posts, you will fidn they likely turn out far far better and you get much nicer responses.
04-10-2003, 22:44
OOC are we ignoring Bobkes or should i whoop his aircraft?
04-10-2003, 22:49
Your all pethetically wronge because for months me and our other nation in our "economy" have been planning to take countries like you and quite frankly it will be a breeze so i would watch out because b4 you know it when you look out your window what will formally be known as your "nation" will be flattened and spreaded with necleur and biologial waste foundations wich will take years to settle and goo by then you will be how shall we say it.....dead

so be prepared might not be today nor tomorrow or will it??
04-10-2003, 22:53
if(user.Bobkes != smart) { echo Bobkes is dumb. }
Bobkes is dumb.
if(user.Bobkes == ignored) { echo Bobkes is ignored. }
Bobkes is ignored.
04-10-2003, 22:53
Though the Empire is capitalist itself, it shall support FPC because another nation has attacked a sovereign nation.
Autonomous City-states
04-10-2003, 22:53
OOC: I have IRL committments to attend to... I'll be back in a few hours.
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 22:54
Bobkes: Please stop this it isn't doing you any good.

While by your age you are bound to have some strategic levels weapons and some capability for extended force projection you simply would find it impossible to deal with the levels of strategic defense any country considerably older than you would posses.

And of course open use of WMD is a good way to get yourself glassed/laked.
04-10-2003, 22:55
Kaiser Otto Petinski boards his Learjet on route to the latest addition to the Attican Empire, Vampirreich. He has 2 AF-100 escorts.
04-10-2003, 22:56
if "attican empire" is a cock sucker= a fucking cock sucker
if "attican empire== a fucking brown nosed townifyed fucking granny raper he ucking = 1 so fock you yes you u dick sucking **** :lol:
Edolia
04-10-2003, 22:56
<<OOC: I would suggest just IGNORING him.>>

Edolian forces are now landing and they are taking up defensive positions along the border with the Attican Empire.

Air forces are landing to quickly refuel. Afterwards, the 1,200 YT/A-2 fighters are taking off to intercept enemy bombers. Using advanced sensor technologies, we are hoping to be able to attack the enemy B-2s, however we know that it will be difficult to detect them and the attacks will have to move on an individual basis. B-52s and B-1s however are expected to be easily destroyed by our overwhelming air power.

Our forces on the Attican border are there for purely defensive purposes and we promise that no attacks against the Attican Empire will be made by them unless they are attacked first. We urge all sides to immediately end hostilities.
04-10-2003, 22:58
1. Learn spelling.
2. Learn how to script/code
3. Prepare to be reported.

All to the ignored one.


OOC: Why are you attacking McLeod, he has not publicly announced any attack on FPC yet, so technically you are mounting aggressive actions against him.

Also, you are aware, if you looked my map, that the majority of the border is mountains? The real border is the invaded territories and a small part under it.

Also, how did you get so many troops there so fast when time was pretty much stopped?
Crookfur
04-10-2003, 22:59
Ahem...

Bobkes while i appreiciate that this is likely your first real attempt at a roleplay i would be indedted to you if you would kindly bow out of this thread, your behaviour is simply unacceptable by any measure of means.


Attican Empire: that hardly helped.
04-10-2003, 23:01
OOC: I know. It's just how I am. I wasn't implying anything *innocent eyes*... seriously...
Edolia
04-10-2003, 23:02
1. Learn spelling.
2. Learn how to script/code
3. Prepare to be reported.

All to the ignored one.


OOC: Why are you attacking McLeod, he has not publicly announced any attack on FPC yet, so technically you are mounting aggressive actions against him.

Also, you are aware, if you looked my map, that the majority of the border is mountains? The real border is the invaded territories and a small part under it.

Also, how did you get so many troops there so fast when time was pretty much stopped?

Oh shiese, you're right. That was an OOC post by McLeod. Sorry. I'll edit. I see that the main border is mountains. Why couldn't my troops fortify on the mountains? I would imagine that would give them a certain advantage.

Again, good point about the time. Assume this happens as soon as the time is "unfrozen." I feel silly now. *Goes away to sulk*
04-10-2003, 23:04
Your all cock suckers and your retards 4 spening all your time in here the only reason y im here is cause i was board out of my ficking scull so good bye losers and get a life aswel!!

callum goodbye and drive safely
04-10-2003, 23:04
Well, since I doubt I would be attacking via mountains, it would be a bad defensive posture. And considering your troops would be very week attacking FROM the mountains.
Edolia
04-10-2003, 23:10
Well, since I doubt I would be attacking via mountains, it would be a bad defensive posture. And considering your troops would be very week attacking FROM the mountains.

Well, you might very well attack through mountain passes. That wouldn't be too difficult to do. And we don't really plan on getting involved in the conflict with the little non-nation (I forget its name) so we're not going to deal with that. And why wouldn't we do well attacking from the mountains?
04-10-2003, 23:13
well, you cant just run down on the mountains, it takes time to walk down from mountains, and during that time, you are being fired upon from the ground and from the air.
McLeod03
04-10-2003, 23:17
OOC: What happened in the attacks on me?

IC: THe Mcleodian armoured column begins to rev engines, impatiently waiting to be released.

The attack waves are airborne, and begin circling over the base, with KC-135s periodically refueling them.

The forces sit and wait.

Meanwhile, GOld Flight, the 6 F-15Es laucnhed earlier arrive at their target. 24 Cluster bomb units are released over a large military encampment inside FPC, with a destructive force covering the area of around 30 soccer pitches.
04-10-2003, 23:19
Time is still halted until FPC arrives.
Edolia
04-10-2003, 23:24
Sure they're getting hit from the ground and the air but they can fire back and they would be able to use the rocks and boulders around the mountains as defenses as they advanced down the slopes. Then of course you have to remember that mountains never just suddenly drop from mountain to plains. There are foothills and little foothills and then eventually you get to the plains. And I plan to get air superiority.

McLeod -- I had forgotten that you had only said that others could use your base in FPC OOC so I edited the attack. I think we should all wait to post until FPC posts.
04-10-2003, 23:25
Also, these are STEEP mountains we are talking about. Plus, tanks don't usually work well on mountains.
04-10-2003, 23:38
IC (not directly part of the war effort)

A military convoy in Vampirreich, containing 5 trucks, 3 King Leopard, and 4 Cheetahs, and a few mech infantry units (soldiers with humvees and APCs) moves towards the southern reaches of Vampirreich.
04-10-2003, 23:46
OOC: ok, before anyone posts anymore replies, read this carefully and for once READ what I have to say:

-FPC has no troops in Lastivia.

-The Emperor wanted to make peace by agreeing to the terms of Attica by sending the president/dictator of Lostivia and his minsiters to an international trial.

-I'm not kidding, it was actually Lostivian soldiers who attacked. Maybe they were acting on their own, maybe not... all I know is that they were from the 2 rebelling states.

-What in god's name went wrong when I left earlier We were at page 4 and now 9! We were supposed to have ceased the war by my emperor agreeing to international trials and agreeing to stop the war with Lostivia and even giving them total free borders and stuff.

-Now, I won't post anything else until all invovled parties explained wtf is going on!
04-10-2003, 23:50
The invasion of Listovia began with a artillery and arial raid. After 2 hours of constant bombings, soldiers and tanks attacked the lightly defended Listovian lines. However, Listovians had many anti-tanks weapons and used them well. The battle for the lines continued well into the evening and ended with much of the FPCian soldiers falling back to their previous positions. Some trenches, however, were taken from Listovian troops.
Casualties:
Listovia - 5,600 dead or wounded + 122 tanks destroyed + 57 artillery pieces.

FPC - 7,000 dead or wounded + 109 tanks destroyed + 8 aircrafts.
04-10-2003, 23:53
OOC: your so called reasons to invade my are injustifiable. I have no troops in Listovia. There is only a state of war. Also, I wish to make peace and I demand only one thing. It ain'T much.

Your initial posts say other wise. AND IF YOU read my posts you would see that id only be engaging forces in Listovia!

AND IF YOU would read my posts, you would know that I have no troops in Listovia. The last pockets of my solders that were in Listovia were eliminated or had to fall back.
04-10-2003, 23:53
OOC: technically, I have no soldiers in Listovia & also, I ignore IH cuz he doesn't know even a slight part of the history that went on a month ago.

IC:
--From FPC--
--To Attica--
I understand your warning but I have physical evidence that Listovia attacked my troops *transfers a video segment of the reported attack on the checkpoint*. Now, I will end hostilities if the Listovian president, Kombayn Triv surrenders to my forces along with the Listovian govt members to face justice.
--OVER--
05-10-2003, 00:01
Also, what were your casualties from my artillery attack? And did you see my big map?
05-10-2003, 00:09
That's it. This royaly sucks. Everytime I post something, everyone gets into it and I end up with no one reading my posts. Ok, from this post, forget the whole thing. Just act like I never posted the damn thread. Oh, that'S right, you won'T care cuz you NEVER READ my posts! This is the reason this game sucks and the world ain't living in peace: people don'T mind their own business.
05-10-2003, 00:11
That is why you put (closed RP) in the topic...
05-10-2003, 00:13
That is why you put (closed RP) in the topic...

Oh, so if I put (closed RP) in the topic, people will read my posts? Come on, your the guy who reads the less what I say or do.
05-10-2003, 00:16
No, I read the stuff in your posts that you prefer to ignore. Like the fact that you attacked.

Closed RP except to invitees, then invite them on first post.
McLeod03
05-10-2003, 01:11
FPC, we have read your posts. You stated an invasion of Listovia. We are acting ot stop you taking back a province that was, by agreement, not yours.

Thats all. Chill out dude. Its a game. People go to war over stupid things.
05-10-2003, 02:38
Read the thread "Secret IC blah blah" by me.
Independent Hitmen
05-10-2003, 12:31
OOC are we ignoring Bobkes or should i whoop his aircraft?

Well my Patriots just blotted his aircraft off the map even if he had then which seems unlikely (Patriots can go that fast).
Independent Hitmen
05-10-2003, 12:41
OOC: FPC you in your second post SAID that u had invaded them, thats what made me come into this. IF you had put closed RP invite only then i wouldnt had been able to. PLUS I DO READ YOUR FUCKING POSTS AND STOP ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING REVELOVES AROUND YOU.

IC: 5 B-52s were lost along with 3 B-1s during a proposed bombing raid on FPC today. Sources say that when these aircraft were hit the other B-1s and B-52s reversed their courses and with Fighter escorts from the USIH carriers in the vicinity turned back to IH.

B-2s continued into FPC and attacked several military bases while F-117s hit AA emplacements along the border with the INDEPENDENT country of Listovia. No B-2s or F-117s are thought to have been lost at the current time.

From the downed jets, special forces managed to rescue 8 pilots and 5 other crewmen. 5 more men went down with their aircraft and the remaining 6 are still missing.
Special Force Gamma
05-10-2003, 13:15
Meanwhile, in the attack on the two supply depots, AllBritain's aircraft took heavy damage, losing 12 of their number while bombing. Two pilots had been killed as their aircraft exploded, 3 went missing, presumed captured and the remaining were recovered by SFG.
05-10-2003, 13:58
OOC: Here we go again. Just for some background, Dirk Dales is the High Councilman of TGB, and Bob is his administrative aid.

In the residence of the High Councilman, Bob knocks on the door of the room Dirk Dales is in and says:

Bob: Sir, The Attican Empire has declared war on FPC.

Dirk: I know that Bob. We sent a carrier battle group to observe.

Bob: No sir, they declared war AGAIN!

Dirk: Crap. Alright, triple our last response, add some more to it, and alert the analysts.

Bob: Triple the force, sir? That'll only leave 1 CBG protecting our nation.

Dirk: Dammit Bob, now's not the time to argue. I'm on the can, and about half way through my paper.


OOC: This is a list of the forces I'm sending to the region. They will stop 100 miles from the nearest ship, and will drop anchor (in international waters).


3 Iowa class battleship
4 Ohio class SSBNs
2 Seawolf class attack subs
5 Los Angeles class attack subs
12 Ticonderoga class cruisers
18 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers
18 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
6 Oilers
6 Arsenal ships
6 Wraith class patrol ships (Sea Shadow with 10 anti ship missiles in VLS, and 50 anti air missiles in SMLS)
3 Nimitz class carrier with a total of:
2 E2-C Hawkeye aircraft
120 F/A 18 Super Hornet aircraft
120 F-14 Super Tomcat aircraft
9 Blackhawk helicopters

3 Wasp class landing ship (configured as a pocket carrier) with:
60 AV/8 Harriers
75 Blackhawk/Seahawk helicopters (configured in ASW role)
Independent Hitmen
05-10-2003, 14:11
OOC: Here we go again. Just for some background, Dirk Dales is the High Councilman of TGB, and Bob is his administrative aid.

In the residence of the High Councilman, Bob knocks on the door of the room Dirk Dales is in and says:

Bob: Sir, The Attican Empire has declared war on FPC.

Dirk: I know that Bob. We sent a carrier battle group to observe.

Bob: No sir, they declared war AGAIN!

Dirk: Crap. Alright, triple our last response, add some more to it, and alert the analysts.

Bob: Triple the force, sir? That'll only leave 1 CBG protecting our nation.

Dirk: Dammit Bob, now's not the time to argue. I'm on the can, and about half way through my paper.


OOC: This is a list of the forces I'm sending to the region. They will stop 100 miles from the nearest ship, and will drop anchor (in international waters).


3 Iowa class battleship
4 Ohio class SSBNs
2 Seawolf class attack subs
5 Los Angeles class attack subs
12 Ticonderoga class cruisers
18 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers
18 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
6 Oilers
6 Arsenal ships
6 Wraith class patrol ships (Sea Shadow with 10 anti ship missiles in VLS, and 50 anti air missiles in SMLS)
3 Nimitz class carrier with a total of:
2 E2-C Hawkeye aircraft
120 F/A 18 Super Hornet aircraft
120 F-14 Super Tomcat aircraft
9 Blackhawk helicopters

3 Wasp class landing ship (configured as a pocket carrier) with:
60 AV/8 Harriers
75 Blackhawk/Seahawk helicopters (configured in ASW role)

Are we to take this as a fleet that is opposed to the Attican Empire or is it neutral but with plans to attack the Atticans?
--Communique to Bob--

In other news, 2 more aircraft carriers are to be sent to join the battle groups already near FPC waters, this will bring the USIH contingent in this area up to 4 Nimitz Class Carriers, 2 KittyHawks and 18 WASP landing ships (configed for light A-A) with a further 54 landing ships on route.
Special Force Gamma
05-10-2003, 14:21
In response to the increasing numbers of carriers in thearea surrounding FPC, AllBritain's PM decides to send as many fighters and torpedo bombers as can be spared ot the AllBritain temporary HQ at McLeod's base, with orders to attack hostile ships that fire on the SFG and AllBritian carrier groups.
05-10-2003, 14:24
OOC: Could someone sum up what's going on here so I don't have to read all of this?
Special Force Gamma
05-10-2003, 14:36
The start of this thread was that FPC had claimed that troops from the newly independent Listovia had attacked one of his sentry posts on the border. In response he invaded the country. Myself and IH began a defence of Listovia while the neighbouring Attican Empire attempted to negotiate a peace settlement. Eventually FPC agreed, only to find that it was just a time consuming process so that Attican could summon forces to his aid. Attican began a barrage of the nearest FPC troops while I sent more troops to aid him. That's basically where things are now and we are waiting for a response from FPC to our actions (ie casualty reports). While this wait has been going on various other nations have pledged their support for one or the other.
05-10-2003, 14:41
OOC: Here we go again. Just for some background, Dirk Dales is the High Councilman of TGB, and Bob is his administrative aid.

In the residence of the High Councilman, Bob knocks on the door of the room Dirk Dales is in and says:

Bob: Sir, The Attican Empire has declared war on FPC.

Dirk: I know that Bob. We sent a carrier battle group to observe.

Bob: No sir, they declared war AGAIN!

Dirk: Crap. Alright, triple our last response, add some more to it, and alert the analysts.

Bob: Triple the force, sir? That'll only leave 1 CBG protecting our nation.

Dirk: Dammit Bob, now's not the time to argue. I'm on the can, and about half way through my paper.


OOC: This is a list of the forces I'm sending to the region. They will stop 100 miles from the nearest ship, and will drop anchor (in international waters).


3 Iowa class battleship
4 Ohio class SSBNs
2 Seawolf class attack subs
5 Los Angeles class attack subs
12 Ticonderoga class cruisers
18 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers
18 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
6 Oilers
6 Arsenal ships
6 Wraith class patrol ships (Sea Shadow with 10 anti ship missiles in VLS, and 50 anti air missiles in SMLS)
3 Nimitz class carrier with a total of:
2 E2-C Hawkeye aircraft
120 F/A 18 Super Hornet aircraft
120 F-14 Super Tomcat aircraft
9 Blackhawk helicopters

3 Wasp class landing ship (configured as a pocket carrier) with:
60 AV/8 Harriers
75 Blackhawk/Seahawk helicopters (configured in ASW role)

Are we to take this as a fleet that is opposed to the Attican Empire or is it neutral but with plans to attack the Atticans?
--Communique to Bob--

In other news, 2 more aircraft carriers are to be sent to join the battle groups already near FPC waters, this will bring the USIH contingent in this area up to 4 Nimitz Class Carriers, 2 KittyHawks and 18 WASP landing ships (configed for light A-A) with a further 54 landing ships on route.

Bob forwards the communique to High Councilman Dales, who promptly replies, "Give them the standard line about our forces.".

--Communique to the nation of Independent Hitmen--

We are currently conducting an exercise with our naval forces. Please be advised that we do not have plans to enter this conflict at this time. Also, any further communication between our nations should be not be routed to me (I am only an administrative assistant), but either High Councilman Dirk Dales or Damien Bryce, our Minister of Foriegn Affairs.
05-10-2003, 15:16
OOC: IH, things revolve around me cuz it's my god damned country you idiot.

Also, you do all realise that I stoped invading Listovia long ago since I want to make peace? Anyways...

IC: Casualty reports from the artillery bombardement:
278 dead + 203 wounded + 29 vehicles destroyed.
05-10-2003, 15:18
--From FPC--
--To all involved nation--
PResidents of all nations, I do wish to apologize for my actions but what is most absurd is all of you attacking whil I have no troops in Listovia itself and am willing to make peace wit hyou all by ceding to your demands of international trial for the president of Listovia. Now, could we please work things out without another full blown war?
--OVER--
Special Force Gamma
05-10-2003, 15:29
The forces of AllBritain will comply with your request if Attican also does so. However, as stated before attacks will continue until he does.

OOC: What is the damage to your supply depots from the AllBritain night bombing run and the IH night bombing run?
05-10-2003, 16:16
The Cheetahs that were held back from attacking began moving forward. They were combined with Leopard 2s, T-902s, LAV-ADs, LAV-ATs, LAV-25s, and Leopard C2s. They are also accompanied by several infantry divisions.

At sea, U101, U102, U103, and U104 are ordered to mirror the TGB fleet.

100 Leopard 2s armed with Anti-Ground weaponry are dispatched to attack FPC positions, and are escorted by 50 Anti-Air armed ones.

The Attican CBG moves into a position to launch fighters against FPC.
Independent Hitmen
05-10-2003, 16:24
The United States of Independent Hitmen would also like to see a peaceful agreement to this situation, but we cannot see this happening while you still do not agree that the Emperor of FPC should also stand trial in an international court.

--Secret IC to all nations against FPC--

Should we try for a special forces grab of the Emperor so that he can face international trial (like the starting of the movie Air Force One)

--End of Transmission--
McLeod03
05-10-2003, 17:21
<Secret Reply to IH>

Agreed. We will provde transports, and bullets for use on board aircraft (useless against body armour windows etc, but devastating against "soft"targets, won't pass thruogh someone, just disintegrates inside them). If an airborne snatch isn't possible, we will force him to stand trial in other ways.
Autonomous City-states
05-10-2003, 17:27
--From FPC--
--To all involved nation--
PResidents of all nations, I do wish to apologize for my actions but what is most absurd is all of you attacking whil I have no troops in Listovia itself and am willing to make peace wit hyou all by ceding to your demands of international trial for the president of Listovia. Now, could we please work things out without another full blown war?
--OVER--

If I remember correctly, it was you that demanded a trial for the President of Listovia.. not the international community. The Federation is standing by its committment to serve as neutral territory for the negotiation of any settlement; however, will act to defend the territorial sovereignty of Listovia if it is threatened.

Sec-Gen Annalise Brown
05-10-2003, 18:36
--From FPC--
--To all involved nation--
PResidents of all nations, I do wish to apologize for my actions but what is most absurd is all of you attacking whil I have no troops in Listovia itself and am willing to make peace wit hyou all by ceding to your demands of international trial for the president of Listovia. Now, could we please work things out without another full blown war?
--OVER--

If I remember correctly, it was you that demanded a trial for the President of Listovia.. not the international community. The Federation is standing by its committment to serve as neutral territory for the negotiation of any settlement; however, will act to defend the territorial sovereignty of Listovia if it is threatened.

Sec-Gen Annalise Brown

OOC: no, I asked for him to be trialed in a FPC court bu Attica demanded an international one. I agreed but all of these peace talks by Attica were only meant to buy some time to invade me cuz, like the month before, Attica hasn't changed one bit.

IC:
FPC news:
"Tragic moment today ladies and gentlemen. Our emperor was kileld when his limousine was attacked by terrorists from TGC. His limousine was attacked by several RPGs and nearly all of it was destroyed. Several imperial bodyguards were killed or woundedbut at least, the total of 16 TGC terrorists were killed. Due to the recen unjustifiable / unprovoked war, the high counsil of FPC has declared it's peace and disbanded the bloodlines. The high council man Yuri Porov declared: "From now on, FPC will be a republic governed by elected ministers from the 34 countys inside FPC."
05-10-2003, 18:37
OOC: You are aware that disbanding the bloodlines would bring harsh retributions FROM the bloodlines?
05-10-2003, 18:38
--From the newly formed republic of FPC--
--To all foreign nations in or around FPC--
we apologies for our previous emperor's decision. We have summoned all FPCian troops near the border with Listovia back in their barracks. We have even sent a peace treaty with Listovia and their president should send us an answer shortly. We would like to cease all hostilities so that our republic can move on. We have ordered all prisonners to be set free, and those who were in the labour camps also. We will start a new FPC without an overall emperor.
--OVER--
05-10-2003, 18:39
OOC: You are aware that disbanding the bloodlines would bring harsh retributions FROM the bloodlines?

OOC: yes, but they are not enough people in the bloodlines to be an imidiate threat to the newly formed govt of FPC.
05-10-2003, 18:45
OOC: Any terrorist group is a major threat to newly formed governments. Plus the fact that your entire country is unsettled by a detonation of an Atomic Bomb by Attica.

IC: Attican Materiel and Troops begin returning to Attica. The war is over before it began.




To: McLeod03
From: Attica

Are the wargames still on?
05-10-2003, 18:46
OOC: Any terrorist group is a major threat to newly formed governments. Plus the fact that your entire country is unsettled by a detonation of an Atomic Bomb by Attica.

IC: Attican Materiel and Troops begin returning to Attica. The war is over before it began.




To: McLeod03
From: Attica

Are the wargames still on?

You launched a nuclear bomb in my country?
05-10-2003, 18:47
OOC: No, I tested one. You'r people would still be unsettled.
05-10-2003, 18:49
OOC: No, I tested one. You'r people would still be unsettled.

OOC: yes, i agree. So the war's over then? If so, consider this thread closed.
05-10-2003, 18:50
OOC, yah, war is over... until you do something stupid or so, or until another militaristic emperor like Frmr. Kaiser Michael I comes into power.
Independent Hitmen
05-10-2003, 20:52
OOC: waaaaaaaaah the wars over :( now i gotta find sum where else to get a fight goin!
06-10-2003, 10:54
Before the TGB Carrier Battle Groups can sail too far from the coast of TGB, they are recalled.
Crookfur
06-10-2003, 11:15
The kingdom of Crookfur offers the newly formed FPC interim government any help it may need.