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Orbital Nuclear Weapon Deployment, Future of WMD?

04-10-2003, 15:42
OOC: I gave you all fare warning this was coming, I gave you a chance to intereact as it develeped...

IC:

At approximately 6:15am zulu, a huge energy surge was detected in orbit of Earth, originating from an unmarked space platform.

Within moments, the platform fired an ennergy beam emmiting high amounts of nuclear radiation down towards the surface, aimed at the nation of The Rogue Nation of n00b001 (Disclaimer:...actually screw the disclaimer, if anyone out there is stupid enough to create a nation called n00b001 you should be condemed anyway :roll: ), the radiation of the beam ripping a slipstream in the atmosphere.

A few more seconds later, and the beam struck the surface, blasting a concentrated wave of radiation across n00b001, every living thing with 15km of ground zero dead, if not totally desintigrated...

All that now stands of the former capital of n00b001 is a smoldering, radioactive crater, the land blacken for miles around, it is estimated nearly 100,000,000 people where killed.

One noticable difference about this weapon, is that it creates no fallout, all nations surrounding n00b001 (If anyone would want to live next to such a nation) remained totally uneffected.
04-10-2003, 15:45
*ducks out of the way as nations all across the world prep IGNORE silos.*
Padmasa
04-10-2003, 15:56
To: The Government of Jace
From: Haruat Kreegsbrock, Padmasan ambassador to all foreign powers
Subject: ...

Padmasa would like to congratulate you on this new weapon. We will not bow down to you becuase of it, but you have earned some more respect from the theocracy.
Klonor
04-10-2003, 15:59
If you actually did give forwarning of this project, then congratulations! I hope it serves you well in your future endeavors.
04-10-2003, 16:00
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04-10-2003, 16:01
*Drops to ground and prays*

To ignore, or not to ignore.
Seversky
04-10-2003, 16:02
*Drops to ground and prays*

To ignore, or not to ignore.
Ignore.
04-10-2003, 16:12
*ducks out of the way as nations all across the world prep IGNORE silos.*

I see, so my new weapon is so outright uber yet entire spacefleets which can destroy a nation from orbit arn't?, also you have no idea how the weapon functions so I can't see your in all in a possition to pass judgement.

To: The Government of Jace
From: Haruat Kreegsbrock, Padmasan ambassador to all foreign powers
Subject: ...

Padmasa would like to congratulate you on this new weapon. We will not bow down to you becuase of it, but you have earned some more respect from the theocracy.

The Armed Republic of Jace has yet to make any sort of comment...there intentions are yet unknown...

If you actually did give forwarning of this project, then congratulations! I hope it serves you well in your future endeavors.

I made two threads, one showing me preforming abnormal nuclear testing and hinting at a new weapon creation (Which sadly got swamped by n00bs and died) and a second one showing me building the satallite and moving nuclear material into orbit...I thought you would all jump on that one, sending something like a UN envoy to my doorstep demanding to know why I was transporting nuclear material into orbit, or generally bogging me down in a stream of political chaos or sending agents to my empire to steal info and what I was doing outright.
04-10-2003, 16:12
Err, how does 'a beam of nuclear radiation' make a giant crater and not leave any fallout? :?
04-10-2003, 16:13
your creation is ingeneous although it sound a lot like Icoris from Die Another Day
White Dwarf
04-10-2003, 16:16
I like your weapon. Lets just hope it dosen't come into orbit with my partical cannon
04-10-2003, 16:21
Err, how does 'a beam of nuclear radiation' make a giant crater and not leave any fallout? :?

Because it's not a conventional nuclear weapon, ie no two masses of nuclear material coming together and going to yield, creating an explosion which blasts radioactive debry or fallout out from the main blast site, this is a beam, and drills into the planet crust, giving off energy emmissions rarther then physical debry.

your creation is ingeneous although it sound a lot like Icoris from Die Another Day

Funny, I never saw Die Another Day (Not yet anyway) so any relation is coincidental.
04-10-2003, 16:23
*ducks out of the way as nations all across the world prep IGNORE silos.*

I see, so my new weapon is so outright uber yet entire spacefleets which can destroy a nation from orbit arn't?, also you have no idea how the weapon functions so I can't see your in all in a possition to pass judgement.


I was predicting, not condeming. Dominaria need not fear such a weapon due to our wonderful Mage corps, who can, using their combined power, shield the enitre countinent of Terisair from it.
And finnaly, we dont fear your weapon because, we are vastly differnt time periods. Urza tried to cross the temporal barriar once, it resulted in his blowing up an island.
Thelas
04-10-2003, 16:27
As for me, the only problem with this is that you have to be above (or close above) the target to use this. Unfortunatly against a space nation that operates massive space defense fleets, use orbital space defence stations, and has a network of Ground to Space Accselerated Particle cannons, this weapon is some what ineffective.
04-10-2003, 16:30
Ignored because I feel like and you can't argue because you don't exist in my multiverse now. Have a nice day.
Esamopia
04-10-2003, 16:32
I don't exactly know what you'd plan to do with the weapon... why spend so much money when you can simply nuke someone... and that is how this will be treated, as use of a super evil nuclear weapon, which would entail massive retaliation from any and all sane parties.

You have been warned, if it even appears over Esamopian skies we will fire at your country with our full nuclear arsenal... take the necessary steps to modify its orbit so we do not have to cause such a tragedy.

Esamopian Premier
04-10-2003, 16:32
Thelas is right, anyone who accepts this will just blow it out of the sky anyway.
04-10-2003, 16:43
I don't exactly know what you'd plan to do with the weapon... why spend so much money when you can simply nuke someone... and that is how this will be treated, as use of a super evil nuclear weapon, which would entail massive retaliation from any and all sane parties.


Perhaps because it can't be blocked by conventional defence systems?, you'd need a sheild to actually stop it (And before anyone complains, it's called an "Arms Race").

Thelas is right, anyone who accepts this will just blow it out of the sky anyway.

And suffer retaliation from Jace for unprevoked destruction of goverment property.


And Thelas was refering to it's application vs space nations, which I don't toy with anyway, they have a consistent habit of trying to whipe out your entire civilization from orbit with an invincible fleet of d00m...
Aust
04-10-2003, 16:46
Did you give the nation warning? Please dispose of the tech or at least not use it unfairly on anyone
Esamopia
04-10-2003, 16:48
Yes... well enjoy your weapon... I'll fantasize about some uber destroyer too... perhaps some sort of worldwide plague... mwhahahahaahahahahahaha...

Wait a second... stop reading! No... I'm not thinking about a genetically engineered retroviral aersoal contageous 100% mortality rate secret killer virus!

HEH... defend THAT with "conventional" means...
Blademasters
04-10-2003, 16:49
(OOC: Aust, the nation he shot doesn't exist...)

We fully support this development, and do not object to it in the least (we could stop it if you attempted to shoot our homewrld with it)
Aust
04-10-2003, 16:53
Aust the nation dosent exist who am I. How can you support this WMD are bad RPing . Conventional warfare ok but nukes! I got rid of mine ages ago
Blademasters
04-10-2003, 16:55
(OOC: it was a typo... the nation he shot at doesn't exist. I don't mind anything I can stop, I play futuretech, so nukes are relatively irrelevant)
Aust
04-10-2003, 16:56
Okay blademasters.
04-10-2003, 17:06
Scientist at theDominion's space monitoring agency,took note of the space based weapons platform actual use. A number of existing ICBM's were therefor retro fitted for posible orbital intercept mode. At the same time, survailance assets presently in polar orbit, are being tasked to keep an eye on this disturbing development.
Clairmont
04-10-2003, 17:12
Kinetic weapons are much more efficient. With the energy you use on a beam like that, you could accelerate a depleted uranium arrow with a mass of few tons from high orbit to a good 500 or so kilometers per second and do much nastier damage and at the same time not burning a gaping hole thru athmosphere and the ozone layer.
04-10-2003, 17:12
And suffer retaliation from Jace for unprevoked destruction of goverment property.

In a war? :?

And Thelas was refering to it's application vs space nations, which I don't toy with anyway, they have a consistent habit of trying to whipe out your entire civilization from orbit with an invincible fleet of d00m...

Well, you see, this is no better than an invicible fleet of d00m, and it can be classed as space tech.

So shouldn't you be ignoring yourself...?
Belem
04-10-2003, 17:13
Damn i want one of these. Im stuck with these puny 300 megaton orbital launched nules
Clairmont
04-10-2003, 17:20
Altaran: An orbital deployable energy weapon is much more conceivable realistically than massive spacefleets with capability for faster than light travel, communications etc.
04-10-2003, 17:22
Altaran: An orbital deployable energy weapon is much more conceivable realistically than massive spacefleets with capability for faster than light travel, communications etc.

Even one that fires a beam of 'nuclear radiation', cutting into the ground 'and releasing energy', and creating a giant crater? And one that can kill a billion people?

:roll:

If that isn't space/future tech, I don't know what is.
Clairmont
04-10-2003, 17:27
I said nothing about this particular weapon being easilly conceivable just that an orbital energy weapon would be. Realistically a beam of "nuclear radiation" isnt going to do anything else than irradiating the ground. Ofcourse if the weapon uses particle radiation like Alpha and Beta and then accelerates those particles to insane velocities, there could be some potential but its more complicated than its usefull. Gamma Rays are just waves tough and they wouldnt be doing much.

But an energy beam as a concept is more conceivable yes. A laser in the gigaton range for example would be vaporizing the spot where it hits so quickly that there would be an explosion because of the rapid vaporization and 1) It would create a crater 2) "cut" into the ground. And the amount of people killed depends entirely on the population density.

Its not really space tech as space tech is classed around here. In the concept of an energy weapon atleast there are no problems with the fundamental laws of physics.