NationStates Jolt Archive


Taliban declare independence.

03-10-2003, 15:40
Today, the Taliban have declared their independence.
03-10-2003, 15:41
You'll have a nuke down your throat, Afghan bastard!
Of the council of clan
03-10-2003, 15:44
declared independance from who?
03-10-2003, 16:02
Saddam!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: (sorry i ahd to do that)
03-10-2003, 16:04
declared independance from who?

Soviet Trasa. We no longer need his protection.
03-10-2003, 16:05
Saddam!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: (sorry i ahd to do that)Death to Saddam.
Saddam must die. :twisted:
03-10-2003, 16:08
Are you going to be evil, or a good little terrorist group?? Cause if you are evil I will have to hurt you.(just a lttile adivce, with that name, be careful.)
03-10-2003, 16:10
Then we are just gonna have to send a HUGE army to WIPE you out tali-boy
Elara
03-10-2003, 16:12
Congratulations you have won a get basket full of these! Enjoy your winnings...


http://www.vinod.com/nuke.jpg


And another thing , you making a Taliban nation is imo very disrespectful to the poor people that died on 9/11.
03-10-2003, 16:15
sighs

Looks like i'll have to occupie him AGAIN.


i am sending 2,000,000 TSD troopers and 200 Tanks to occupie him, AGAIN
03-10-2003, 16:17
Poor anem choice is all i can think off, and i wouldn't nuke anybody cause' alot o people would be very pissed off(very powerful people)
03-10-2003, 16:17
Soviet, please dont make me kill you.(i got resurected, so yes i can)
03-10-2003, 16:18
listen i recently aquired a 700+ nation, don't make me use IT
03-10-2003, 16:19
i got about 6 400 million plus+ nations so :P
03-10-2003, 16:21
then Tell taliban to behave himself.

he was Godmoding about 3 weeks ago by declaring other PPl's Casualty's
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 16:22
*points to my size* Leave the little taliban dude alone. Or I level your capitals(well.... except Elara, if he gets involved...) Your choice.

Also, you aren't allowed to bring in your other nations to help you. That started being frowned upon when all the nations that used to do it, didn't need to anymore. That was around mid-May, I think.
03-10-2003, 16:23
thank you crimmond. I will Love to help kill soviet if he doesnt leave Taliban alone.(even though i frown apon his name/date choice)
03-10-2003, 16:24
just make sure that Taliban dosn't Godmod anymore and i'll leave the idiot alone
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 16:25
just make sure that Taliban dosn't Godmod anymore and i'll leave the idiot aloneYou'll leave him alone or I annex you.
03-10-2003, 16:26
i said i would leave him, just make sure he disn't godmod anymore
03-10-2003, 16:27
Are you going to be evil, or a good little terrorist group?? Cause if you are evil I will have to hurt you.(just a lttile adivce, with that name, be careful.)
Let me kill Saddam then I'll be good.
03-10-2003, 16:28
Then we are just gonna have to send a HUGE army to WIPE you out tali-boy

OOC: Don't you already have an army here?
03-10-2003, 16:28
...huh? what? (turns to crimmond) what did he say? he's not speaking English
03-10-2003, 16:29
OH! that army, taht was just the Garrison
03-10-2003, 16:30
thank you crimmond. I will Love to help kill soviet if he doesnt leave Taliban alone.(even though i frown apon his name/date choice)

OOC: Date choices?
03-10-2003, 16:31
then Tell taliban to behave himself.

he was Godmoding about 3 weeks ago by declaring other PPl's Casualty's

That was 3weeks ago. And that was a mistake.
03-10-2003, 16:31
I am pulling out the Garrison with All it's equipment and it's weapons, i am not leaving any TSD weapons behind for HIM to use
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 16:31
As I always do, instruct the younger nations while protecting them from the n00b ki11ERz until such time as they prove themselves able to take care of themselves.

One of the cases that went wrong still haunts me as I gave the bastard one of my nations. I'd have annexed it back, but he has stopped coming on the fourms and went 70,000ly away.
03-10-2003, 16:32
I am washing my hands of this Former Colony, beacuse i cannot rule a noobie
03-10-2003, 16:34
I am washing my hands of this Former Colony, beacuse i cannot rule a noobie

Your army is now being held hostage till you agree to support my to kill Saddam.
03-10-2003, 16:34
noway, i have more troopers anyways
03-10-2003, 16:35
noway, i have more troopers anyways
Then help me kill Saddam Hussien.
03-10-2003, 16:35
i refuse for i am too busy with my Projects, and besides, those troops are already dead, slow poison in their bloodstreams
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 16:38
noway, i have more troopers anyways
Then help me kill Saddam Hussien.What do ya want ME for?

http://lpj.free.fr/saddam.gif
03-10-2003, 16:39
this isn't MY war,i demand that all TSD Equipment be returned immeadiatly
Elara
03-10-2003, 16:42
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 16:47
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.Because OOC happenings should not have an effect on IC nations. If he wants to plays as a corrupt world government, let him alone. And it is not named after terrorists, it is named after the government power that gave them safe haven.
Elara
03-10-2003, 16:50
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.Because OOC happenings should not have an effect on IC nations. If he wants to plays as a corrupt world government, let him alone. And it is not named after terrorists, it is named after the government power that gave them safe haven.


I do believe some of them were from the Taliban. And if you support the killers (speaking of the Taliban supporting Al Qaeda) then in my oppinion they are no better than the people flying those planes. But you do what you like , I dont see much good things coming from this nation , a warning for you , watch the skies.
03-10-2003, 16:50
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.

OOC: You would not have any problems with Hamas, IRA, FARC, or the Cali drug cartel being names of nations would you.
Fact is the real life Taliban didn't kill those Americans and it is not a terrorists organization. It was a political group that governed afghanistan.
The group you are thinking of is Al Qaeda. While Taliban did host Al Qaeda in their country, the two are not synonymous and did not get along for most the Talibans rule over Afghan.
Hence, Taliban is an acceptable nation name and it should not offend anyone who actually knows the facts.
But then if I called it Al Qaeda, then you would have a right to be offended.
03-10-2003, 16:52
We still want our weapons and tanks back though
03-10-2003, 16:53
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.Because OOC happenings should not have an effect on IC nations. If he wants to plays as a corrupt world government, let him alone. And it is not named after terrorists, it is named after the government power that gave them safe haven.


I do believe some of them were from the Taliban. And if you support the killers (speaking of the Taliban supporting Al Qaeda) then in my oppinion they are no better than the people flying those planes. But you do what you like , I dont see much good things coming from this nation , a warning for you , watch the skies.
OOC: Too be balanced then, you would have to say that America is also a terrorist state then. Cause of all the terrorist groups they've supported over the years who have killed tons more people than Al Qaeda has.
America is not the center of the world and terror was not invented on 911. Despite the fact that most Americans have this false idea that it was.
03-10-2003, 16:53
We still want our weapons and tanks back though
Can I buy some off you?
03-10-2003, 16:54
err.no, those belong to the TSD highcommand and i am not authorized to SELL them
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 16:54
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.Because OOC happenings should not have an effect on IC nations. If he wants to plays as a corrupt world government, let him alone. And it is not named after terrorists, it is named after the government power that gave them safe haven.


I do believe some of them were from the Taliban. And if you support the killers (speaking of the Taliban supporting Al Qaeda) then in my oppinion they are no better than the people flying those planes. But you do what you like , I dont see much good things coming from this nation , a warning for you , watch the skies.OOC: I know how to take care of myself, despite the beating my fleet took. All my air and ground forces are ready, lest anything enter our airspace without permission.

I'm just giving him another chance, if he blows it, Soviet Trasa can nuke him to hell and back for all I care. I just think we should see if he chooses to shape up.
Elara
03-10-2003, 16:57
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.

OOC: You would not have any problems with Hamas, IRA, FARC, or the Cali drug cartel being names of nations would you.
Fact is the real life Taliban didn't kill those Americans and it is not a terrorists organization. It was a political group that governed afghanistan.
The group you are thinking of is Al Qaeda. While Taliban did host Al Qaeda in their country, the two are not synonymous and did not get along for most the Talibans rule over Afghan.
Hence, Taliban is an acceptable nation name and it should not offend anyone who actually knows the facts.
But then if I called it Al Qaeda, then you would have a right to be offended.


OOC: Read your facts more clearly , the Taliban did some pretty horrible things. If they were turely a glorious government they would have handed Al Qaeda in Afghanistan over to the US and stopped defending the terrorists. But instead they wanted to fight protecting terrorists and killers and kill the "infedels". Im sure glad that there is a new Afghan government one where the people finally can enjoy freedom and a lack of fear. One where women can hold office (and one already is in a governmental position , you go gal!). This is all I have to say , enjoy life because you wont find much respect around here and few will aid you.
03-10-2003, 16:57
err.no, those belong to the TSD highcommand and i am not authorized to SELL them
Alright. Then you can have them back.
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 16:57
OOC: Too be balanced then, you would have to say that America is also a terrorist state then. Cause of all the terrorist groups they've supported over the years who have killed tons more people than Al Qaeda has.
America is not the center of the world and terror was not invented on 911. Despite the fact that most Americans have this false idea that it was.Very true. I agree, as an American, that the US has done some things that have really been horrible, but it's so big, only the UN can really stop it...
03-10-2003, 16:58
THANKYOU, and i might do a crimmond says if you blow you chance
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 16:59
THANKYOU, and i might do a crimmond says if you blow you chance :lol: I think I made someones day...
03-10-2003, 16:59
OOC: Too be balanced then, you would have to say that America is also a terrorist state then. Cause of all the terrorist groups they've supported over the years who have killed tons more people than Al Qaeda has.
America is not the center of the world and terror was not invented on 911. Despite the fact that most Americans have this false idea that it was.Very true. I agree, as an American, that the US has done some things that have really been horrible, but it's so big, only the UN can really stop it...
The UN is too weak and pathetic to do anything. Otherwise they would have gone to war to stop the US from invading Iraq.
Their failure here, has proven their irrelevance.
Elara
03-10-2003, 17:00
OOC: Too be balanced then, you would have to say that America is also a terrorist state then. Cause of all the terrorist groups they've supported over the years who have killed tons more people than Al Qaeda has.
America is not the center of the world and terror was not invented on 911. Despite the fact that most Americans have this false idea that it was.Very true. I agree, as an American, that the US has done some things that have really been horrible, but it's so big, only the UN can really stop it...

Whoa whoa , Im gonna stop reading this before you unintentionally sever your faction with the Empire.
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 17:00
The UN is too weak and pathetic to do anything. Otherwise they would have gone to war to stop the US from invading Iraq.
Their failure here, has proven their irrelevance.Which is why the US should pull out of it and kick them out of New York.
03-10-2003, 17:01
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.

OOC: You would not have any problems with Hamas, IRA, FARC, or the Cali drug cartel being names of nations would you.
Fact is the real life Taliban didn't kill those Americans and it is not a terrorists organization. It was a political group that governed afghanistan.
The group you are thinking of is Al Qaeda. While Taliban did host Al Qaeda in their country, the two are not synonymous and did not get along for most the Talibans rule over Afghan.
Hence, Taliban is an acceptable nation name and it should not offend anyone who actually knows the facts.
But then if I called it Al Qaeda, then you would have a right to be offended.


OOC: Read your facts more clearly , the Taliban did some pretty horrible things. If they were turely a glorious government they would have handed Al Qaeda in Afghanistan over to the US and stopped defending the terrorists. But instead they wanted to fight protecting terrorists and killers and kill the "infedels". Im sure glad that there is a new Afghan government one where the people finally can enjoy freedom and a lack of fear. One where women can hold office (and one already is in a governmental position , you go gal!). This is all I have to say , enjoy life because you wont find much respect around here and few will aid you.
Hey, kid, I was watching developments under the Taliban while you out at the raves thinking nothing over seas could ever affect you. I probably know more about their history than you do.
The only reason you know about them is 911 and even now you know very little about this group.
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 17:01
OOC: Too be balanced then, you would have to say that America is also a terrorist state then. Cause of all the terrorist groups they've supported over the years who have killed tons more people than Al Qaeda has.
America is not the center of the world and terror was not invented on 911. Despite the fact that most Americans have this false idea that it was.Very true. I agree, as an American, that the US has done some things that have really been horrible, but it's so big, only the UN can really stop it...

Whoa whoa , Im gonna stop reading this before you unintentionally sever your faction with the Empire.You would go against EVERY RP standard and make an IC decision on another nation for OOC reasons? I thought you were better than that.
03-10-2003, 17:02
The UN is too weak and pathetic to do anything. Otherwise they would have gone to war to stop the US from invading Iraq.
Their failure here, has proven their irrelevance.Which is why the US should pull out of it and kick them out of New York.
US won't because the UN is a puppet that rubber stamps everything that America does just about.
03-10-2003, 17:02
can i nuke him now huh huhuhuhuhuhuhuh? :D
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 17:03
can i nuke him now huh huhuhuhuhuhuhuh? :DHas he done something stupid IC and started a war in which he has God Modded since this thread started?
03-10-2003, 17:03
I must go. But will be back this afternoon around 12ish mountain time.
Elara
03-10-2003, 17:05
OOC: Too be balanced then, you would have to say that America is also a terrorist state then. Cause of all the terrorist groups they've supported over the years who have killed tons more people than Al Qaeda has.
America is not the center of the world and terror was not invented on 911. Despite the fact that most Americans have this false idea that it was.Very true. I agree, as an American, that the US has done some things that have really been horrible, but it's so big, only the UN can really stop it...

Whoa whoa , Im gonna stop reading this before you unintentionally sever your faction with the Empire.You would go against EVERY RP standard and make an IC decision on another nation for OOC reasons? I thought you were better than that.


Whoa there , I never said anything about that. So stop with the assumptions. Im trying to be your friend here as in other times , Im only very disappointed at some things youve done here , our frienship is still intact.
03-10-2003, 17:05
errrr. not yet.
03-10-2003, 17:06
but he DID try to take my TSD Garrison hostage a few minutes ago
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 17:07
errrr. not yet.*points big ass Trilithium Devastor Missile(capable of leveling a good sized town)* Then... no.
Elara
03-10-2003, 17:10
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.

OOC: You would not have any problems with Hamas, IRA, FARC, or the Cali drug cartel being names of nations would you.
Fact is the real life Taliban didn't kill those Americans and it is not a terrorists organization. It was a political group that governed afghanistan.
The group you are thinking of is Al Qaeda. While Taliban did host Al Qaeda in their country, the two are not synonymous and did not get along for most the Talibans rule over Afghan.
Hence, Taliban is an acceptable nation name and it should not offend anyone who actually knows the facts.
But then if I called it Al Qaeda, then you would have a right to be offended.


OOC: Read your facts more clearly , the Taliban did some pretty horrible things. If they were turely a glorious government they would have handed Al Qaeda in Afghanistan over to the US and stopped defending the terrorists. But instead they wanted to fight protecting terrorists and killers and kill the "infedels". Im sure glad that there is a new Afghan government one where the people finally can enjoy freedom and a lack of fear. One where women can hold office (and one already is in a governmental position , you go gal!). This is all I have to say , enjoy life because you wont find much respect around here and few will aid you.
Hey, kid, I was watching developments under the Taliban while you out at the raves thinking nothing over seas could ever affect you. I probably know more about their history than you do.
The only reason you know about them is 911 and even now you know very little about this group.


OOC: You obviously dont know me very well , I study history. I know and knew plenty about the Taliban while you were most likely still in diapers. Dont make assumptions about me , sure the US has done some bad things in the past , point to a country that hasnt. But we havent killed our own people , or supported and harbor terrorist groups after they kill thousands of helpless innocents. I recommend history of the middle east and north africa classes whenever and if ever you reach college level.
Der Angst
03-10-2003, 17:14
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.

I demand that you immediately leave this game, for you are possibly a citicen of one of the nations that killed more than 600000 civilians due to airraids in germany in WW2.

Go away, your very existance offends me.

~ DA player, slightly sarcastic
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 17:16
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.

I demand that you immediately leave this game, for you are possibly a citicen of one of the nations that killed more than 600000 civilians due to airraids in germany in WW2.

Go away, your very existance offends me.

~ DA player, slightly sarcasticSorry, however funny, this doesn't apply as we weren't alive then and had no way to stop it. The Taliban fell very recently and a lot of them as well as Al-Queda are still alive.
Elara
03-10-2003, 18:02
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.

I demand that you immediately leave this game, for you are possibly a citicen of one of the nations that killed more than 600000 civilians due to airraids in germany in WW2.

Go away, your very existance offends me.

~ DA player, slightly sarcastic

Hallo , Ich heisse Roland. Ich bin Deustch.


Please follow these instructions: Bring up hands , pull foot out of mouth. Now your on your way to success! Onward Champion!
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 18:50
Ah ein anderer, der Deutsche kennt. Wissen Sie nicht mehr als das?
Elara
03-10-2003, 20:00
Ja , ich sprechen sie Deutsch. Mein Familie ist Deutsch.
Elara
03-10-2003, 20:01
By the way , you said "another who speaks germans" :D Perhaps you mean german.
03-10-2003, 20:01
I conquered the NS Taliban a while ago, but they said they left Afghanistan so I don't care.
03-10-2003, 20:45
but he DID try to take my TSD Garrison hostage a few minutes ago

Only because I need help to kill Saddam.
03-10-2003, 20:48
that is no excuse, you took Trasians hostage, lucklly we always modify our soldiers geneticly so if they feel threatened they can release the Poison into their bloodstream
03-10-2003, 20:50
What nation is Taliban hiding in now? Just give me the GPS co-ords and say good bye...
03-10-2003, 21:03
Im curious as to why your helping a terrorist nation (who is disrespecting those lost and their family by making said nation) buddy (Crimmond).


I can understand protecting young ones whilst they get started you know Ive always tried to help the younger nations. But this is just too far , a nation named after terrorists that killed over 3,000 people that were just going to work or going home by plane.



I wouldnt be acting this way if he was rping a country he made up or something like Turkey or Italy or something. And no I probably wont use military force because your a friend , but seriously think about who your defending.

OOC: You would not have any problems with Hamas, IRA, FARC, or the Cali drug cartel being names of nations would you.
Fact is the real life Taliban didn't kill those Americans and it is not a terrorists organization. It was a political group that governed afghanistan.
The group you are thinking of is Al Qaeda. While Taliban did host Al Qaeda in their country, the two are not synonymous and did not get along for most the Talibans rule over Afghan.
Hence, Taliban is an acceptable nation name and it should not offend anyone who actually knows the facts.
But then if I called it Al Qaeda, then you would have a right to be offended.


OOC: Read your facts more clearly , the Taliban did some pretty horrible things. If they were turely a glorious government they would have handed Al Qaeda in Afghanistan over to the US and stopped defending the terrorists. But instead they wanted to fight protecting terrorists and killers and kill the "infedels". Im sure glad that there is a new Afghan government one where the people finally can enjoy freedom and a lack of fear. One where women can hold office (and one already is in a governmental position , you go gal!). This is all I have to say , enjoy life because you wont find much respect around here and few will aid you.
Hey, kid, I was watching developments under the Taliban while you out at the raves thinking nothing over seas could ever affect you. I probably know more about their history than you do.
The only reason you know about them is 911 and even now you know very little about this group.


OOC: You obviously dont know me very well , I study history. I know and knew plenty about the Taliban while you were most likely still in diapers. Dont make assumptions about me , sure the US has done some bad things in the past , point to a country that hasnt. But we havent killed our own people , or supported and harbor terrorist groups after they kill thousands of helpless innocents. I recommend history of the middle east and north africa classes whenever and if ever you reach college level.

Really? Lets see now. I was born in 1973 and the Taliban did not exist until 1996.
And yes, americans have killed their people on several occasions.
And yes we have occasionally given refuge to groups that most of the world considered terrorists.
Hell, we helped terrorists steal Kosovo from Serbia.
We sided with the terrorist groups in Chechnya against Russia.
We even threatened to bomb Russia unless they gave the terrorists more time to get away with their crimes.
You see, difference is that you think only American lives are sacred.
I say all human life is sacred regardless of nationality and I say American lives are not more sacred than those of others.
While the rest of the world was victimed by terror Americans said terror was no big deal. Some guy gets blown to bits in N Ireland, Tel Aviv or Caracass. It didn't involve americans so it was no big deal. That's what americans were saying.
Along comes 911, all of a sudden Americans discover terrorism. And now, they demand the total right to complete world domination cause they falsely believe that everyone owes them a free living.
Let me tell you something else. I watched that part of the world and figured out what was happening and accurately predicted the US would go to war in Aghanistan 5 years before it happened.
This prediction was recorded in a local newspaper back in 2000 when I ran for US Congress and was explaining to the newspaper why I disagreed with Bush's then foriegn policy focus on China. But what was everyone said? O yes I remember, America is protected by oceans. No one would dare attack the American homeland cause the whole world is afraid of us and owes us a living. Al Qaida is much too small to do anything like that. And my favorite: Every single person on earth loves america and always has and always will. That was offered as another reason to refute my warnings.
If Americans hadn't been so enamored with China, they would have seen 911 coming and would have prevented it. The reason they didn't is their blind arrogance. And it is this same arrogance that is turning the rest of the world against this country.
I made sure certain people in the government had a warning of what was going to happen. But you fucked up Americans were to pig headed to listen. No I did not specifically predict the way they did it. But I did predict they would use unconventional means to attack the US on level similar to that of Pearl Harbor. But because everyone thought I didn't know what I was talking about, namely people such as yourself, America did not take the precautions it could have taken. And now those 3,000 people are dead because you dumb ass americans are too arogant to heed warnings.
You could have prevented that from happening. Now you expect me to feel sorry for a nation that would not heed the warnings. And let me tell you I was not the only one issuing these warnings.
I am sorry to say this, but those 3,000 who died were betrayed by their own country.
03-10-2003, 21:06
that is no excuse, you took Trasians hostage, lucklly we always modify our soldiers geneticly so if they feel threatened they can release the Poison into their bloodstream
YOu wouldn't kill your own people. Your nuts.
03-10-2003, 21:08
By the way, I don't need your respect.
I am not dependent on what other people think of me.
I'm a free person with freedom to have my own opinions and my own decisions.
03-10-2003, 21:09
In fact, it is you who have offended me.
03-10-2003, 21:10
By the way, I don't need your respect.
I am not dependent on what other people think of me.
I'm a free person with freedom to have my own opinions and my own decisions.
Then don't bitch at them for the same reason, boy.

In fact, it is you who have offended me.
What? Fall off your camel?
03-10-2003, 21:17
By the way, I don't need your respect.
I am not dependent on what other people think of me.
I'm a free person with freedom to have my own opinions and my own decisions.
Then don't bitch at them for the same reason, boy.

In fact, it is you who have offended me.
What? Fall off your camel?
Arrogance.
03-10-2003, 21:17
By the way, I don't need your respect.
I am not dependent on what other people think of me.
I'm a free person with freedom to have my own opinions and my own decisions.
Then don't bitch at them for the same reason, boy.

In fact, it is you who have offended me.
What? Fall off your camel?

They should not be spreading false information.
03-10-2003, 21:19
What? Should I be expecting 500 suicide bombers coming to smote me in the name of Allah? Tell me, O wise one, why should I be nice to Muslims in christian nations when christians in islamic nations are treated like shit?
03-10-2003, 21:21
I've been places seen things most of you haven't. And most of you never will be cause your coddled in your little words where the universe revolves around america.
03-10-2003, 21:23
What? Should I be expecting 500 suicide bombers coming to smote me in the name of Allah? Tell me, O wise one, why should I be nice to Muslims in christian nations when christians in islamic nations are treated like shit?
Because in most islamic nations they're not treated that way.
Only because of artificial rivalries introduced by the British, the Americans and the Russians who insisted that one side of the nation must always hate the rest of the nation.
These three world powers started a cycle in the muslim that the muslim world is to weak to break.
With their imposition of the western doctrine of survival of the fittest which did not exist until the west invaded.
Hell, extremist Islam with the accompanying terrorism was created by the British and Americans as a weapon against Hitler during WWII.
Its just that now the seeds these two nations planted have finally bloomed and my my, what horrible looking flowers America and Britain have planted.
03-10-2003, 21:34
In case there is any one who really wants to know what happened.
The reason they would not give over Al Qaeda was cultural.
In their culture, if you have a guest and someone comes to your home with the intent of causing harm to him. You are responsible for the safety of any one who is in your home whether they were invited or not. You cannot give them over to people who seek to harm them.
As barbaric as some of their policies were, unlike Americans, the Taliban at least had and have code of chivalry.
They took care their people. They actively supported the very same charities you and your families are supporting.
Hell, they even gave money for children in the US who had cancer.
When there were natural disasters in the US, guess what, they donated funds to help the victims.
See, they don't stab their friends or allies in the back. I have seen most americans constantly stabbing their own friends in the back. I have seen America turns it back on many of its freinds.
03-10-2003, 21:35
To end,
If you don't like the name of my nation, too freakin bad.
Tadjikistan
03-10-2003, 21:46
OOC: You obviously dont know me very well , I study history. I know and knew plenty about the Taliban while you were most likely still in diapers. Dont make assumptions about me , sure the US has done some bad things in the past , point to a country that hasnt. But we havent killed our own people , or supported and harbor terrorist groups after they kill thousands of helpless innocents. I recommend history of the middle east and north africa classes whenever and if ever you reach college level.

From what i read i learn that you are a historian(or gonna be soon), interesting, i'm a historian and Afghanistan is one of my favorite subjects, i find it so interesting that i even know the history of the Afghan Airforce since its existence in 1919 (try to beat me on that :) )
The Taliban are a simple old tribe that sees a shattered country, mujahedeen killing, raping, kidnapping people, building checkpoints everywhere because they dont get paid.

So the taliban ask help in the mosques and madrasees in Pakistan, the new supporters (armed with material bought in the Khyber pass) allowed them to start taking over the country, most tribeleaders understood that this would bring back order and remove the revolting subjects.
The Burqa ... already existed and was widely used by women to protect them from rape or kidnapping, the Taliban simply made al women wear one.
Bin Laden was a guest of the Taliban long before he attacked western targets, and in the taliban way of life, you dont kill or arrest a guest. So when the Americans asked them to hand over Bin Laden they refused.
Instead they organized a Loya Jirga (religious men gather in a meeting and discuss the matter).
The decission was that Bin Laden had to leave Afghanistan, but as he was a guest they could only ask him, not force him.
A few days later he dissapeared, when America asked for him the Taliban simply answerred with: he left, we dont know where he is.
Offcourse an American patriot calls this a lie, but according to what i read Bin Laden was a true muslim who did exactly what his religion told him and when the war started he was already in Pakistan (the reason why they couldnt find him.

Some men in the taliban wer crude savages, i wont deny that but the Taliban itself was a true muslim government, that used repression because it was(and still is) the only way to govern a country like Afghanistan.

The US wants to exploit gas and oil reserves in the north and the taliban would never alow that, so a change of gov't would be interesting, a moneyhungry warlord is more useful then an axtreme muslim. If you have proof that the Taliban wer really behind 911, please show it to me now.

Another thing that i learnt in my lesson was that the Soviets had the capacity to take the country in the eighties, but the US and UK preffered to supply warmongering clans with ex-Czechoslovakian equipment and Stingers (which they never gave back). While a UN report clearly shows that healthcare, employment and education had really become better in cities like Kabul.

I now tell you that Afghanistan is back to where it was in 1992, the UN has nothing to say outside of Kabul, the new Army is corrupt and warlords rule the country again, soon the foreign soldiers will leave and many civilians will pay the price of 13 years of western (US) interference.

If you are treully a historian you would really go trough a case and not believe what the authorities of one side tell you

@Taliban_ :There was a first report of the Taliban in 1919, most important was Mullah Shor Bazaar who inflicted heavy losses upon the British during the 3rd Anglo Afghan war, others are Mirwais Khan Hotaki and Mullah Mushki Alam, during the Soviet invasion the Taliban (means "he who seeks") fought under Mohammed Nabi, one of the Peshawar Tanzeem leaders.

Tadjikistan out
04-10-2003, 04:29
OOC: You obviously dont know me very well , I study history. I know and knew plenty about the Taliban while you were most likely still in diapers. Dont make assumptions about me , sure the US has done some bad things in the past , point to a country that hasnt. But we havent killed our own people , or supported and harbor terrorist groups after they kill thousands of helpless innocents. I recommend history of the middle east and north africa classes whenever and if ever you reach college level.

From what i read i learn that you are a historian(or gonna be soon), interesting, i'm a historian and Afghanistan is one of my favorite subjects, i find it so interesting that i even know the history of the Afghan Airforce since its existence in 1919 (try to beat me on that :) )
The Taliban are a simple old tribe that sees a shattered country, mujahedeen killing, raping, kidnapping people, building checkpoints everywhere because they dont get paid.

So the taliban ask help in the mosques and madrasees in Pakistan, the new supporters (armed with material bought in the Khyber pass) allowed them to start taking over the country, most tribeleaders understood that this would bring back order and remove the revolting subjects.
The Burqa ... already existed and was widely used by women to protect them from rape or kidnapping, the Taliban simply made al women wear one.
Bin Laden was a guest of the Taliban long before he attacked western targets, and in the taliban way of life, you dont kill or arrest a guest. So when the Americans asked them to hand over Bin Laden they refused.
Instead they organized a Loya Jirga (religious men gather in a meeting and discuss the matter).
The decission was that Bin Laden had to leave Afghanistan, but as he was a guest they could only ask him, not force him.
A few days later he dissapeared, when America asked for him the Taliban simply answerred with: he left, we dont know where he is.
Offcourse an American patriot calls this a lie, but according to what i read Bin Laden was a true muslim who did exactly what his religion told him and when the war started he was already in Pakistan (the reason why they couldnt find him.

Some men in the taliban wer crude savages, i wont deny that but the Taliban itself was a true muslim government, that used repression because it was(and still is) the only way to govern a country like Afghanistan.

The US wants to exploit gas and oil reserves in the north and the taliban would never alow that, so a change of gov't would be interesting, a moneyhungry warlord is more useful then an axtreme muslim. If you have proof that the Taliban wer really behind 911, please show it to me now.

Another thing that i learnt in my lesson was that the Soviets had the capacity to take the country in the eighties, but the US and UK preffered to supply warmongering clans with ex-Czechoslovakian equipment and Stingers (which they never gave back). While a UN report clearly shows that healthcare, employment and education had really become better in cities like Kabul.

I now tell you that Afghanistan is back to where it was in 1992, the UN has nothing to say outside of Kabul, the new Army is corrupt and warlords rule the country again, soon the foreign soldiers will leave and many civilians will pay the price of 13 years of western (US) interference.

If you are treully a historian you would really go trough a case and not believe what the authorities of one side tell you

@Taliban_ :There was a first report of the Taliban in 1919, most important was Mullah Shor Bazaar who inflicted heavy losses upon the British during the 3rd Anglo Afghan war, others are Mirwais Khan Hotaki and Mullah Mushki Alam, during the Soviet invasion the Taliban (means "he who seeks") fought under Mohammed Nabi, one of the Peshawar Tanzeem leaders.

Tadjikistan out
Tadjik, you hit the nail right on the head man.
I think that during the war against Russian occupation, they were known as the Muhadeen. We called them Afghan freedom fighters.
As for patriotism, that is a good thing as long as it is not blind patriotism.
04-10-2003, 04:36
Saddam!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: (sorry i ahd to do that)Death to Saddam.
Saddam must die. :twisted:

I am Saddam Hussein, leader of the Republic of Al Anbar.

Death to the Taliban.
04-10-2003, 04:41
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04-10-2003, 04:59
This is starting to flame. Fact is, in most predominately Islamic nations, Christians are not banned, simply restricted. Meaning, they have to do it in the privacy of their own homes, can't go around spreading the Word of God, and stuff like that. Basically stuff in public. Otherwise all that trash happens. Bah, forget it.

Ic: Gradenk here
I have to disagree slightly with that Sniper country. I'm a hindu( and an Indian ) and am living in a predominantly Muslim nation. Malaysia. Indians & Chinese are the two minorities ( about 30 % of total population ) .

The Indians & Chinese Are given free reign on what religion they're allowed to practise. Hindus can go to temples and attend religious festivals freely. So can Christians and Buddhists. Malaysians are allowed to practise their respective religion freely. We have beautiful temples, churches and mosques. Though the government controls tightly the construction of churches, temples and other religious shrines, They allow us the minorities to practice our religion freely. In fact Dubai is another Muslim nation but it's population is almost 70 % expatriates! with most of them from South Asia.
04-10-2003, 05:06
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WestUkraine
04-10-2003, 06:20
Ah, okay. That's just what I gathered from a book I looked at in the library just today. Only had a few minutes to skim through it, and saw Iran in there, and that is some of what it said. Forgive my homophobia.
No problem. You see, most the of the restrictions these people are talking about are not in the majority of muslim nations, their only in the ones located in the mid east and north africa.
They most likely won't apply starting in Pakistan.
Crimmond
04-10-2003, 06:40
By the way , you said "another who speaks germans" :D Perhaps you mean german.Hey, I'm not perfect, ya know...

As to the rest of this. It's 1:30 and I have a major headache. Soviet Trasa... do what you will.
WestUkraine
04-10-2003, 06:49
By the way , you said "another who speaks germans" :D Perhaps you mean german.Hey, I'm not perfect, ya know...

As to the rest of this. It's 1:30 and I have a major headache. Soviet Trasa... do what you will.
Damn. You been logged into this thread that long?
04-10-2003, 06:54
I can blow Taliban up? :D
Brittanic States
04-10-2003, 08:18
I can blow Taliban up? :D
yep nuke away- and dont forget to use chem and bio weapons to take care of any survivors :wink: