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In recent years Eurydian scientists have made break throughs in the area of military technology. As of today advances in the "Slicer Beam" have reached critical stages of development.

The Neutron Cannon, or "Slicer Beam" is a weapon weapon built to for extreme firepower. Its not designed to blow up a spaceship... rather... It'll just cut it in half.

This weapon can, in effect... slice through an entire ship. The power output for this weapon is 446,947 Terrawats per second. This is a weapon of awesome destructive capability.

To achieve this massive energy discharge... a massive amount of energy is needed. Currently only the Quantum Singularity Reactor can provide the power needed to fire the weapon and run the rest of the ships systems. This reactor system is in its infancy, however, and is only equipped on the largest and newest class of Eurydian vessel.

Therefore, until it becomes feasable to replace the M/AM reactors of other Eurydian vessels, the only ships capable of recieving this upgrade are the Sunrise class dreadnoughts.

This upgrade will take several years to complete... and since Asgard is our nations top priority... it may take even longer.

The upgrades are expected to cost 1.25 billion dollars per ship.

It is possible for other nations to use this technology... and comments on it are always welcome.

Edit: Changed it all.

Gravimetric Shielding Upgrade—

As Gravimetric Drives have become the standard propulsion system on Eurydian ships, so has Gravimetric Shielding. By channeling a portion of the Gravimetric Drive’s energy, weapons fire can actually be deflected away from the ship. Up until recently this system of defense was slow and cumbersome. It also lacked much staying power… being depleted far to quickly.

The crux of this trouble is a combination of two problems. First, the circuitry used to help channel this energy is far too weak to accomplish the task. With larger, more robust wires, the energy output would be increased ten fold. This is no easy task however… for the wiring runs throughout the entire ship, and would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to replace per ship.

Second, the defense system used to pinpoint where and when the weapon is going to hit is outdated. This system can barely keep up with 8 targets. Also, if a weapon is fired closer than 300 meters from the ship, the system would not pick it up in time… and the discharge would hit. This upgrade is slightly cheaper than the other one, costing roughly 90,000 per actual upgrade, and another 50,000 for other ships systems that would be replaced to take advantage of the new system.

This upgrade will take roughly 5 years to complete.

whoa whoa whoa... you fire a beam at something to turn it into anti-matter to try to slice it? no. Instantly melting it is one thing, done simply by altering the kinetic state of the atoms... but converting them, into anti-matter? LOL jeez, that'd be like using C4 to open a letter :) Anti-matter explodes into pure energy when it comes in contact with matter...

whoa whoa whoa... you fire a beam at something to turn it into anti-matter to try to slice it? no. Instantly melting it is one thing, done simply by altering the kinetic state of the atoms... but converting them, into anti-matter? LOL jeez, that'd be like using C4 to open a letter :) Anti-matter explodes into pure energy when it comes in contact with matter...

Thats why I'd say the beam is so damn powerful... not only does it slice through... but it does... more when it is converted. maybe I'll re-word my statement... to take into account the extra damage the antimatter would do.

I dont know... maybe its a godmod... but I thought I'd give it a try.

here's the thing, if you turn a molecule of matter into anti-matter, then it blows up everything nearby that molecule... this beam wouldn't be a godmod if it were say, 1 molecule wide :P A beam like you are suggesting, heck you could fire it at a building and turn the structure into a 5 megaton nuke.

1 Kilogram of the stuff can blow the Milky Way to high hell :shock:

1 Kilogram of the stuff can blow the Milky Way to high hell :shock:noo...

However A brick of anti-matter the size of a can of pop would equal the Hiroshima bomb.

that's why in star trek they use matter/anti-matter reactors ;)

hmmm... well... i got this information from babylon 5... don't laugh.

Its basically taken from the Minbari Slicer beam... which... changes matter into antimatter... heres the link if you want to read it.

http://www.b5tech.com/science/weapons/minbariguns/minbariguns.htm

If it wouldnt be turned into anti matter... what else would it be turned into?

Well, i dunno, babylon 5 isn't exactly realistic... but drom what you remember in the show, what is the effect of the weapon? From the name neutron cannon, it sounds like you might be able to "slice" an object in half by removing the eletrical charge that bonds molecules together, by stripping off the prons and electons, and/or the charge of the atom, allowing it to collape in on itself and break molecular bonds... but then, from what I know, that too would result in a big explosion :P

Hmmm... well... if there was some sort of way... to break the atoms apart... without a hugely massive explosion. Like some sort of containment... beam... along with the uh... neutron cannon. Something to... keep the atoms from creating an atomic explosion.

The problem is not what it does, but how much of it you claim to be putting out. Also, the conversion you speak of would cost more on the order of $2G per ship, not $2M.

Now the bad news: Gravimetric Shields of sufficient potentcy would render this weapon completely useless.

And a point of information: M/AM reactors may seem really cool, but they are really just big, high-density, batteries. They would, owever, have a greater power/weight ratio than anything else.

The problem is not what it does, but how much of it you claim to be putting out. Also, the conversion you speak of would cost more on the order of $2G per ship, not $2M.

Now the bad news: Gravimetric Shields of sufficient potentcy would render this weapon completely useless.

And a point of information: M/AM reactors may seem really cool, but they are really just big, high-density, batteries. They would, owever, have a greater power/weight ratio than anything else.

2G? Like... 2000 dollars?

And second... Since I'm just a dumb kid... I don't understand how... gravimetric shielding would... render the weapon useless...

Third... this is still a game... and it requires a leap of faith to a certain extent. Ultra realism is extremly hard to attain. It's not that they seem "cool" but... from things I've read... they are a lot more powerful... than say fusion reactors.

I guess I'll just nix the whole "Antimatter" part of the cannon... and just say its really freakin powerful... 446,947 terrawats per second. At two feet wide... That'd be able to cut through hull plating... I'm guessing?

I guess I'll just nix the whole "Antimatter" part of the cannon... and just say its really freakin powerful... 446,947 terrawats per second. At two feet wide... That'd be able to cut through hull plating... I'm guessing?dude, that's enough to destroy any capitol ship I've ever seen, shields or no shields, and it would be similar to 10 nukes going off per second... a bit of a godmode :)

CC get on AIM

OOC: Jeez guys, don't be so hard on EB. :x

OOC: Jeez guys, don't be so hard on EB. :x

Thanks... the thing they're not looking at is the fact that basically any sort of future tech people use can be nitpicked down to a godmode. :roll:

anyways... Yes... Thats what I want, a powerful weapon. I think the website I went to said its about a uh... 106.4 megatons per second. The difference is, this laser is only a couple feet wide... not... the blast radius of a nuclear explosion. All of the energy and heat is focused into that small area for the specific intent of cutting through it very quickly. maybe the radiant energy and heat from the laser would make the rest of the ship spontaneously combust... but I doubt it.

Another thing, plenty of people here in NS have lasers that can destroy a ship in one hit. My method is just a little different, rather than envelope the whole ship in a laser beam, just cut it in half with a really skinny one.

*shrugs* You'll probably godmode this statement away too... lord knows I'm no scientist. Still, better to get all the kinks worked out before I actually install this thing.

yeah, we know, it's just when you start using things like anti-matter in places where it won't work right, people get after you :P it's automatically godmodding if it doesn't obey the basic laws of physics lol

Your new weapon sounds very similar to the "ion beam" cannons used in Home World. Basically an intense stream of ions (or whatever nonsense they use) that is fired in a shot like any other weapon. Thus, basically just like any other beam weapon. The technology is "simple" and to get a more powerful beam, all one needs is a bigger gun and power source. Since this tech is already prevalent with space nations anyways, I'd say that It wouldn't be a god mod by any stretch. Especially if EB is actually declaring its research. So long as it doesn't get mounted on anything other than a really bigshp, I wouldn't mind agreeing that it could slice another ship up (see ion beam frigate from Home World). I think its less god moddy than all engulfing super beams which can vaporise entire fleets at once.

Just my $0.02

Thank you all for the input.


Now that the kinks are worked out, the research will continue, and the upgrades will continue.

As stated before... the only class able to recieve the Slicer Beam upgrade is the Sunrise class... and possibly the Primus class (after it recieves additional upgrades.)

Thanks again.

By 2G I meant 2 giga, or 2 billion. Sorry...


Grav shielding would nullify this because sufficient gravity would bend the beam arround, and it would never touch the ship in the first place.

Another point: In space, there is no blast radius.

By 2G I meant 2 giga, or 2 billion. Sorry...


Grav shielding would nullify this because sufficient gravity would bend the beam arround, and it would never touch the ship in the first place.

Another point: In space, there is no blast radius.

Yeah... thats true... on both counts.

Uh... I'll keep working on my upgrades and... thank you for the insightful information.

The Eurydian republic is beginning research on an advanced E.I. system. This program will operate Asgards defense systems. It will not assume a bodily form, but be within Asgard. A form of corporeal existance will be given to the E.I. whether it is a sort of holographic system or just simply a face... it is yet to be determined. Because it will be a sentient form of life... when It is completed it will most likely be given the rank of Captain, and will be able to command all personnel under that rank. More information will be given as the research and construction is completed.

The Eurydian Republic is also beginning construction of a highly advanced super computer. This computer will work in conjunction with Asgard's E.I. as well as every other major computer system on the planet. This specific system will be located on the planet. More information will be given as construction commences.

Finally... on a more top-secret note... the Republic is beginning to research a highly advanced weapon. It will take over 30 years to complete. Unfortunatly due to its super secret nature... the rest must remain a secret.

(OOC: It's basically going to be a super advanced computer virus that will attack starships as they come within range of Asgard transmission range. It will be transmitted with a modulating frequency on radio waves, Graviton Pulses, and also a form of Hyperspace Frequency... or so the theory goes.

This virus will specifically target an alien ships safeguards against computer virus or hacking software, and disable them. After it disables all the safeguards, the virus undergoes a transformation of sorts, and begins to target other systems on the ship. Reactor control, weapons, shielding, all of it will be subject to attack by the virus.

The virus will basically put a stranglehold on all the systems. There is a specific code that will break the virus down and release the ships systems back to the crew's control. Since the virus modulates... only the E.I. that controls Asgard will be able to disable the virus... since there is a specific code used for every frequency. The obvious complexity of the virus is the reason for it taking over 30 years to complete.

I also have described this virus in a very... vague manner... rest assured a much more detailed version will come out later.)

If there are any questions on the IC statement as well as the OOC statement... feel free to ask. If you are going to bitch at me about something... do it nicely.

double post

We have completed a mining station in a small asteroid belt. This station is equipped with every necessity to process all of the asteriods matter, and by using inverse beta decay, turn the particles into neutrons. The use of all these neutrons will be explained at a later date.

After three years of mining we have gathered enough neutrons to begin the second phase of our project.

1. All of the Neutrons will be compressed into a very small area... very very very small area.

2. the tempurature of the chamber they are in will be lowered to a millionth of a degree above absolute zero. This will trigger Boise-Einstein condensation which will make the billions upon billions of compressed neutrons act as one, large molecule. The weight of the baseball sized neutron particle will weigh over 1 trillion tons, and is therefore being done in a zero gravity environment.


We do not know how long this processs will take... but we will give updates.

What can you do with it?

The chaotic particle has been cooled, and we are entering the final stage of development. The full essay on how this technology works will be presented upon completion of the project.

I wouldn't call iit a god mode the beam slicer thingy i use things like and i'm in future tech really advanced.

NOw i would call it a god mode if it can slice quarks in trillions of pieces without destroying it 8)

It has been announced that the House Navy will be building a new class of warship. This ship is expected to surpass previous House vessels in every way. Current House Navies have been in service for over 300 years, and the technology, as well as the quality, have diminished over the years.

This ship is expected to utilize the "Slicer Beam" technology to an extent not seen in other Eurydian vessels. Here are its tentative statistics.

Class:Intari
Type: War Cruiser
Length: 1700 meters
Height: 1645 meters
Crew: 190*, up to 8000 soldiers
Fighters: 25 Redki Fighters, 30 AMPs
Power: 1 quantum singularity reactor
Weapons: 15 Gravitic Neutron Cannons (Slicer Beam), 15 Fusion Beam Cannons, 24 EM Neutron Guns, 24 EM Fusion Guns, 42 Electro Pulse Guns
Defense: 10 meter reinforced poly crystalline-Plasteel interwoven armor, Gravitic Defense Shield Grid

*Advanced E.I. expected to run most ships systems

Ships expected design
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The Royal Navy is commissioning the construction of new fleet vessels. All old fleet craft (most of which have been in service for well over 50 years) are being scrapped. These new vessels will enter service within the next 20 years.

These new vessels incorporate the latest in Eurydian technology, including inerwoven armor, advanced E.I. systems, and the Death Ray.

The first class is the tentitively named "Star Dreadnought." This vessel is expected to be over 2 kilometers long, and incorporate the Death ray as its main weapon.

Class: Star
Type: Dreadnought
Length: 2500 meters
Crew: 277, up to 500 troops
Fighters: 25 Indor class fighters
Power: 1 Quantum Singularity reactor
Weapons: 1 Death Ray, 4 Gravitic Neutron Cannons, 10 EM Neutron Guns, 20 EM pulse guns
Defense: 12 meter poly crystalline-plasteel interwoven armor, Eurydian Shielding

Dreadnoughts firing at degree 3
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Class: Fury
Type: Battle Platform
Length: 9 kilometers (including the booms)
Crew: 1600, up to 5000 troops
Fighters: 80 Indor Class Fighters
Power: 2 Quantum Singularity Reactors
Weapons: 1 Death Ray, 30 Gravitic Neutron Cannons, 20 EM Neutron Guns, 60 EM pulse guns
Defense: 20 meter poly crystalline-plasteel interwoven armor, Eurydian Shielding

The "Fury Battle Platform" is a mammoth vessel capable of engaging many capitol ship sized vessels. Its four forward booms each provide the power of 1 Death Ray. The four booms however work as one, so the ray fired is 4x as powerful as the one on a Dreadnought. It is also equipped with numerous Neutron Cannons and guns, giving it incredible potency.

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The Death Ray: This weapon is a highly advanced laser cannon capable of being set to varying degrees of potency. On its lowest setting it can destroy small fighter craft with great precision. On the highest, it can tear through a capitol ships shielding and armor like a warm knife through butter. Each time the “degree” of the laser is increased, it takes longer to charge. Here are the levels:

Degree 1: .4 second charge time, 10% of actual power (rapid fire use against fighters)
Degree 2: 1 second charge time, 20% of actual power (used against smaller fleet vessels)
Degree 3: 3 second charge time, 35 % of actual power (normal use against small vessels)
Degree 4: 5 second charge time, 50% of actual power (normal use against larger vessels)
Degree 5: 10 second charge time, 100% of actual power (one shot, one kill)

This weapon at full blast fires a beam with a power output of 1.5 million terawatts/sec. This weapons normal setting is 3, or a power output of around 525,000 terawatts/sec.

Edit: this applies to Star Dreadnought Class vessels only.

Degree figures for Fury Battle Platforms:

Degree 1: 3 second charge time, 30% of actual power
Degree 2: 5 second charge time, 55% of actual power
Degree 3: 10 second charge time, 100% of actual power

The EB is modifying the current Jump Engines it uses on all ships. The newly modified engines will no longer "tear" a hole in hyperspace, rather it will "phase" in and out of hyperspace in a much quicker fashion. This will sap a little more power than the original engines, but will give a slight strategic advantage.

The 1st Eurydian fleets have been completed after almost thirty years of construction. They consist of the following:

Royal Navy

100 Star Dreadnoughts

5 Fury Battle Platforms

House Navy

80 Intari War-Cruisers

100 Reakor Frigates

50 Septum Monitors

Fleet construction will halt while the Conconi Shipyards focus on building a command ship for House Kastor. This ship is expected to take 10 years to complete.


Conconi Shipyards (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94247)

Eurydian Ship designs (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88564)

<<Transmission>>

The Eurydian Republic is looking to purchase a long range bombardment cannon blueprint. We are willing to pay quite a bit of money for blueprints to the cannon and the right to build as many as we need. We would not in turn sell the blueprints or our produced cannons to other nations; this would be an exclusive right for our nation to own and operate these vessels.

If nations are interested, please post below.

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Admiral Vaynard
Eurydian Royal Navy

<<End Transmission>>

The nation of Taka has found that our Plasma lance systems are effective and efficient both, and by firing essentialy a fusion grenade at near light speed. The fusion trail behind it has given it its name as well as its more interesting feature, the fact that the fusion trail followes it, and once the Tungstun ring burrows inside the hull of the ship its targeted against, it burns a wide area around it, super heating the hull and melting through the target area before the grenade explodes with the force of a small atomic weapon.
Thus far our nations have had good relations, and we pray that such relations will continue, and thus are willing to part with plans for these wepaons for a moderate price of ten billion, both for the Plasma Lances and the ammunition plans.

We accept these terms. Thank you for selling the technology to us.

-Vaynard

Always a pleasure, we have not forgotten your generocity in the past.

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Class: Siege
Type: Bombardment Cannon
Length: 1.2 kilometer
Crew: 30
Power: 1 M/AM reactor
Weapons: 8 barreled gatling cannon, 2000 rounds
Defense: 1 meter Crysteel armor, Eurydian Shielding

This ship is basically a huge gun. The length of the cannon on the vessel is 950 meters, leaving 250 for ships systems and ammo storage. There is a small protrusion on the right side of the ship, the main bridge. The cannon is actually a gatling gun system. The barrel is rotated using small chemical rockets. They work surprisingly well, and are extremely cheap to operate and fuel. At its optimum speed the Siege Cannon can fire at a rate of 4 rounds per second. The barrels of the guns are lined with electromagnets, which help to pull the rounds to a speed of .8C. This speed is achieved with the initial firing, and subsequent pulling of the magnets. Mass production of this relatively cheap vessel has begun.