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Harmona is need of affordable military.

02-10-2003, 01:03
The Harmona Military Forces are lacking vehicals. If you are willing to sell something to me, you are welcome to hi-jack this tread. If you would like to place a donation of military vehicals, you are also welcome to hi-jack this thread.

-HMF
Nianacio
02-10-2003, 01:07
Do you just want land vehicles?
02-10-2003, 01:07
Here have 500 Al-zarrars.

Other stuff you can have:
750 BTR-94 APC's
140,000 Uzi's
1250 Gaz-3937's (basically a russian humvee... 28 different combat modules such as APC, SAM launcher, etc. [sold seperately])
02-10-2003, 01:07
Land, sea and air are acceptible.

No space vehiclas please, we are not that rich.

-HMF
Nianacio
02-10-2003, 01:09
Inexpensive aircraft can be found here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28783&highlight=).
02-10-2003, 01:10
Pictures and stats please.
Nianacio
02-10-2003, 01:12
There are no pictures because it's not a RL aircraft and I don't know how to make 3D models.
Designation: KE-1 (KonfliktajetoEksporti-1)
Price: US$1 million
Purpose: To provide close air support and limited air-to-air capability to developing nations in a small, inexpensive aircraft.
Size: small
Appearance: a boomerang(?)
Maximum Speed: ~740 miles per hour/~1,195 kilometers per hour/~Mach 1 (dry air, 273 Kelvin)
Range: ~500 miles/~805 kilometers
Ceiling without rocket motors: ~40,000 feet/~12,190 meters
Ceiling with rocket motors: ~50,000 feet/~15,240 meters
Rate of Climb without rocket motor: ~155 feet per second/~45 meters per second
Rate of Climb with rocket motor: ~600 feet per second/~180 meters per second
Takeoff Run: ~1,640 feet/~500 meters
Weapons: one light cannon of your choice on each side of the cockpit, 5 hardpoints (1 under center section, 1 under each wing, and 1 on each wingtip; center and wing hardpoints can carry various bombs, air-to-ground missiles, rockets, fuel tanks, jettisonable rocket assistance pods, and air-to-air missiles up to the medium-range class, and wingtip hardpoints can carry short-range air-to-air missiles)
Engines: compact & lightweight jet engine on each side of the cockpit; easy to maintain
Features:
radar and IR stealthy
minimal use of "black boxes", to make maintenance in low-tech nations easier
bulletproof material around all vital systems (pilot included :D)
good all-around view from the small yet pleasant cockpit
various features for maneuverability & low-speed stability
appropriate for use on short, rough grass tactical airstrips
can take off on smooth stretches of water if the landing gear is replaced with retractable hydroplanes
self-sealing fuel tanks
radar warning receiver (RWR)
chaff/flare dispenser

Each aircraft will be shipped without any weapons or paint.
If your nation ceases to exist, all the jets automatically get returned to me, and will be sold for 3/4 the price you bought them for.
Please state which of the following you'd like (if you don't, you're getting nothing/hydraulics/gauges). If your nation's technology isn't very good, you might want to go with hydraulics and gauges so maintenance will be easier for you.
radar package (This has a small radar, with a range of 20+ miles.), Infra Red Search and Track (This system, can detect aircraft up to 50 miles away. Just call it IRST when ordering.), camera package (This is for taking pictures of things.), or none (This save weight...perhaps you could hide something in the nose!)
hydraulics (This option doesn't require electricity, and may be kept for back-up.), and/or fly-by-light (This option allows the aircraft to turn quicker, and makes flying less physical.)
gauges (These are simple.) or MFDs and HUD (These require electronics.)
02-10-2003, 01:16
Pictures and stats please.
Youve seen Al-zarrar stats
Uzi is a 9mm SMG that you shouldve heard of.

BTR-94 stats:
machine gun armament and heavy-duty power unit. The BTR-94 is intended for accompishment of the delivery of mechanized infantery personnel to the battle field; provision of fire support with personnel small arms. It can destroy with turret weapons ground targets such as artillery batteries, armored vehicles, field fortifications, strong points and launchers. It can also combat enemy living force who disperse on large area of plain or highlands, and low-flying air targets. It can conduct radar and optronic reconnaissance of ground and air targets by its own instruments.

The BTR-90 is for use as a combination armored personnel carrier and scout vehicle. In this role, the BTR-94's turret is somewhat larger and armed with a ZU-23-2 twin 23mm autocannon and a coaxial PKT machinegun. In addition, the turret has mounted on it a combination ground surveillance/air surveillance radar with a range of up to 20 km against ground targets and 30 km against aerial targets. The night vision suite has been improved, and a video camera system with a data link to higher headquarters has been added. The guns are equipped with a laser rangefinder that also doubles as a laser designator. The engine has been upgraded to a multifuel type.

The multipurpose armament provides heavy destruction ability of personnel, armored and fortified land-based sites and low-flying air-borne targets. The heavy-duty power unit on the base of the multi-fuel diesel engine provides high speed and manoeuvrability of the combat vehicle. The internal hull and turret Kevlar liner provides the additional protection of crew, troops and internal equipment against bullets and fragments, ensures high temperature proof even being attacked by enemy with incendiary ammunition and mixtures.

In 1997, Jordan purchased Ukrainian armored personnal carriers from Jordan. They consisted of an order of 50 BTR-94 armored vehicles. The contract to supply the weaponry was signed early 1999 with Ukrspetsexport mediation and completed in February 2000. Ukraine supplied 50 BTR-94 personnel carriers to Jordan in February of 2000, and has recently signed a contract to supply spare part for this equipment.

In mid-2000 the state-run Bronetechnika Ukrayiny (Ukraine's Armor) concern was negotiating with Jordan to set up a joint company for the production, modernization and repair of military equipment in the countries of the Middle East. The proposed Ukrainian-Jordanian JVC may open the door for the Malyshev Plant's entry to Middle Eastern markets

The state-run producer of tanks, the Malyshev plant filed charges with the arbitration court against the state-run company for the export and import of military and special purpose goods and services, Ukrspetsexport, demanding it to compensate UAH 12 million in losses. The Malyshev Tank Plant director Hryhory Maliuk stated that the Malyshev plant was forced to sue Ukrspetsexport because the latter had failed within 1.5 years to repay US$ 1.35 million it owes the plant for the delivery of 50 BTR-94 personnel carriers to Jordan. Under the terms of the contract, Ukrspetsexport had to pay the plant within 2 months following the fulfillment of the contract.

Specifications
Type of combat vehicle 8x8 wheels configuration
Combat crew, men 3
Carriedt personnel, men 10
Armament:
- turret gun mount 23-mm two-barrel gun ZU-23-2
- turret machine gun mount 7.62 PKT machine gun
- turret radar Ground and air detection radar GR-133 type
Weightl, kg 14000
Power-to-weight-ratio, hp/t 20.5
Fuel capacity, Itr 300(150x2)
Fuel endurance, km
- on highway 800
- on mud road 250...300
Features
1. Upgraded observation and targeting devices
2. Target illumination device
3. 7.62-mm PKT machine gun
4. 23-mm two-barrel gun
5. Radar antenna for ground and air targets detection
6 . Multyfuel diesel powerpack with increased power

Overall dimensions

Length, mm 7650
Width, mm 2900
Height, mm 2800
Track, mm 2410
Clearance, mm 475
Angle of approach 40°
Angle of departure 30°
Cross-country ability
Minimum ground pressure, kgf/cm2
- with wheel air pressure 30 kgf/cm2 3.8
- with wheel air pressure 0.5 kgf/cm2 2.4
Max speed, km/h
- on highway - no less 80 ..90
- afloat - no less 9...10
Average speed on mud road, km/h 30 .50
Minimum diameter of gyration on ground, m 13
Minimum diameter of gyration afloat on speed 6-7 km/h, m 20
Forging:
- angle of entrance in water 25°
- angle of departure from water 15°
Max height of wave, m 0.75
http://www.jed.simonides.org/8x8afv/bravo/btr-80_series/btr-94/btr94_003.jpg




GAZ-3937 high mobility multipurpose vehicle. Its unique configuration allows the use of 26 replaceable modules, which ensures its diversified employment in using arms. The basic characteristics of the GAZ-3937 vehicle are presented in Table 1. The chassis of this amphibious cross-country vehicle can be used for troop transportation, weapon mounting, installation of rescue and recovery modules for the Emergency Situations Ministry operations, etc. They come with a turret armed with a 12.7mm Utyos machine gun for infantry support.
GAZ-39371 armored
Wheel arrangement 4x4
Gross weight, kg 7,500
Weight of chassis w/o modules, kg 4,300
Weight w/o rear module, 5,100
Load capacity (w/o rear module), kg 2,400
Crew and mounted
troops, 11
Weight of towed trailer, kg 2,500
Engine power, kW (hp) 130 (175)
Maximum speed, km/h 112
Turning radius (minimum), m 10
Gradient, deg 30
Tilt, deg 45
Fording, m 1.2
Cost: $250,000

http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/golf/gaz3937_series/3937-10/gaz-3937_04.jpg
02-10-2003, 01:25
No picture for this, because, like Nianacio, It isn't a real aircraft, and I don't know how to make 3-D models.

It's called the WISP Ground support scouting craft. It's fast, manuverable, armed with two light machine guns mounted near the cockpit. It has advanced radar systems. It is mainly used to sweep out light infantry and to scout the area around our troops. However, It is still in its proto-type stages, so quantities are quite limited.

Its cockpit fits only one pilot. It is about 15 meters wide, and 9 meters long. It is equiped with the best Eithiotopian engine we use. Because of how small and quick they are, they can also be easily used for patroling perimeters, and will be able to report quickly.

I'm not really good at pricing stuff, so give me an offer.
02-10-2003, 01:37
Hmm... still not what I'm looking for... but I'll order:

5 BTR-94

I bought it due to it's cheap price :arrow: good value
02-10-2003, 01:40
Hmm... still not what I'm looking for... but I'll order:

5 BTR-94

I bought it due to it's cheap price :arrow: good valueI gave you 750 free.
02-10-2003, 01:41
Yeah, but I just wanna buy 5 for the fun of it. And thanks Dark Terror for the free BTR-94s. You are welcome to hi-jack this thread.
02-10-2003, 01:43
Yeah, but I just wanna buy 5 for the fun of it. And thanks Dark Terror for the free BTR-94s. You are welcome to hi-jack this thread.
Oh alright confirmed theyre $650,000 each.
02-10-2003, 01:44
Money wired.
The Crazy Karate Guy
02-10-2003, 01:44
what if I just hijack your country harmona? :twisted:
02-10-2003, 01:46
Umm... please don't. I can bearly defend myself... :cry: :cry: :cry:
02-10-2003, 01:47
what if I just hijack your country harmona? :twisted:
Then youll find yourself being auctioned off by me as real estate. Clear?
Eternal FIame
02-10-2003, 01:49
Desert Patrol Vehicle
Type: All terrain high-speed vehicle
Crew: 1 Driver, 2 gunners/soldiers
Length: 161 in
Height: 79 in
Width: 83 in
Weight: 2700 lbs
Engine: 2000cc gas engine
Range: 200+ Miles
Speed: 60+ mph
Armaments: Passenger side mount: MK19 40mm Grenade launcher (Or equivalent), 7.62mm MMG, 5.56mm LMG.
Upper mount: M2HB .50 HMG, M3 Carl Gustov recoilless rifle (Or equivalents), any PS mount weapon.
Rear facing Upper mount: any PS mount weapon.
2 AT-4 (Or equivalent) missile launcher racks.
Cost: $150,000 ($140,000 for Regional Allies)

The DPV is correctly named the Desert Patrol/Light Strike Vehicle. It is a modified Chenowth, off-road, three-man, 2x4 racing vehicle. The DPV is designed to operate anywhere a four-wheel drive can, with additional speed and maneuverability. The DPV performs numerous combat roles including, but not limited to: special operations delivery vehicle, command and control (C2) vehicle, rear area combat operation vehicle, reconnaissance vehicle, forward observation/lasing team and artillery forward observer vehicle.
http://www.specialoperations.com/Navy/DPV/DPV2.jpg


ATV
Type: All Terrain Vehicle
Crew: 1
Length: 78.1 in (6.5 ft)
Height: 44.3 in (3.6 ft)
Width: 45 in (3.75 ft)
Weight: 524 lbs
Engine: 329cc air-cooled OHV drysump longitudinally mounted single-cylinder four-stroke
Range: 200 miles
Speed: 60+
Armaments: Optional 5.56mm LMG mount
Cost: $25,000 ($20,000 for Regional Allies)

The ATVs role in the military is usually defined as rear-echelon ammo and supply running. With the added LMG mount and super charged engine give it the ability to provided infantry support wherever infantry can go. A total of 4 ATVs can be loaded in a single CH-53 Stallion sized helicopter.
http://www.isayeret.com/vehicles/atv/1.jpg

Desert Raider
Type: Recon, Surveillance, and fast attack Vehicle.
Crew: 1 Driver, 2 gunners.
Capacity: 2 more or 2645 lbs total.
Length: 13.4 ft
Height:6 ft
Width:6.5 ft
Weight: 3196.7 lbs
Engine: Gas powered
Range: 372.6 Miles
Speed: 68.3 MPH
Armaments: 3 LMGs, optional rear facing MMG
Cost: $90,000 ($80,000 for regional allies) ( Feel free to tweak the price.)

Desert Raider is the world's first and only 6x6 airborne, all-terrain reconnaissance, surveillance and fast attack vehicle (RSV/FAV). Designed to meet the growing demand from Special Forces and RDF (Rapid Deployment Forces) for a new generation of fast, highly mobile attack and surveillance vehicles that can operate behind enemy lines, Desert Raider delivers new levels of navigability. The 6 wheels deliver greater maneuverability and enhanced cross-country mobility over all types of terrain. The heart of design concept of Desert Raider is a unique 4-wheel rear suspension unit that has independent suspension for each pair of rear wheels. The unit incorporates a pivot axis about which the vehicle can rise or fall, and Desert Raider is able to move with just one of its 6 wheels touching the ground. The automatic transmission, powerful engine and flexible yet rugged frame further contribute to the mobility and maneuverability of Desert Raider under extreme field conditions and rough terrain. Among its abilities are: fording waters up to 2.2 ft, Low noise level, Low thermal signature RFI/EMC, Gradeability: 70%, Side slope: 70%, Internally transportable aboard a CH-53 helicopter, and slow gradient crawling.
http://www.isayeret.com/vehicles/raider/dr-2.jpg

M1030 M1
Type: Diesel Recon Motorcycle
Crew: 1
Length: 85 in.
Width: 35.75 in.
Weight: 369 lbs
Engine: 4-Stroke, IDI, Diesel, single cylinder, liquid cooled.
Range: 400 Miles
Speed: 80+ MPH
Armament: Concealed modified MP-5K in right side body, ability to be fired with both hands on handlebars.
Cost: $20,000 ($15,000 for Regional members)

The M1030 M1 is a diesel fueled KLR-650. It is designed as first and foremost a recon gathering vehicle. With a top speed exceeding 80 MP/H it can get ahead of the other forces and get itself out of trouble fast. It’s unique ability to use diesel fuel lets it get a drink along side the rest of your diesel powered vehicles. With an added MP-5K in the body the soldier on board has some form of self-defense if he loses his main weapon or can’t reach it in time.
http://motorcyclecity.com/Military-bikes/USMC-mc-training.jpg
02-10-2003, 01:52
My country's a mountinous area, so the only vehiclal that would "survive" there is:

200 ATVs

*momey wired*
Eternal FIame
02-10-2003, 01:53
Bill comes to $5,000,000. They should arrive in 2-3 days.
02-10-2003, 01:54
2-3 days...

Nice delivery time.

Anyone got anything else that they can sell to me? Or donate?
Eternal FIame
02-10-2003, 01:55
The M1030 M1s work great in the mountains too, as do the Desert Raiders(despite their name)
02-10-2003, 02:00
The Desert Raiders are too expencive for me, and the M1030 M1s are also fairly expencive for a motercycle.
Eternal FIame
02-10-2003, 02:01
Yeah but how can you beat 400 mile range?
02-10-2003, 02:03
You got a point there.

50 M1030 M1s please.

*money wired*
Eternal FIame
02-10-2003, 02:09
The bill comes to $1,000,000.00

They will be tacked on to the ATV delivery for the same delivery date .
02-10-2003, 02:11
Mountains... well give you 12 Mi-26 super-heavilift helicopters for free.
http://www.milparade.com/1997/21/42.jpg
See they can move the BTR's around.... or trucks... or pick up chinooks off the ground
http://www.aviation.ru/contrib/Andrey_Platonov/Gallery/Mi-26_Chinook.jpg
02-10-2003, 02:11
Okay then. Thank you for the donation.

I'm still willing to buy anything from anyone! Donations are greatly accepted.