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I am interested in buying some SCUD missle launcher's. If you have any, please sell them to me.

Well, im going to go buy other hardware, if you want to sell, then post, and I will come back later.

SCUD E's

1 Mil each, 2 Mil with conventional cluster missile included.

Upgraded guidance, and 1 Swivel Mounted Gatling Gun mounted in a hole on top of the cabin.

(Co-axial but mounted through a hole in the cabin? With what does it share an axis?)

it is mounted on the roof of the cabin, infront of a hole.

I dont know what it means, everyone uses it :lol:

coaxial means its mounted on the same axial as anouther gun, ussualy it means a machine gun mounted on a tank under the main turret.

Hehe :) Co-axial would mean that the gun shares an axis, presumably with another gun. Usually it would be used to refer to a machinegun which is mounted next to the main gun of a tank, and moves with the main barrel, if that makes sense?

Its makes sense.

Like the machine gun that sticks out the front of tanks, that is fitted there.

As the turret raises, so does it.

thats the idea behind it, what you are thinking of might be a swivel mounted machine gun on the roof, where the gunner accualy sticks his head out to swivel the gun around to engage enemies.

Yeh, thats what I want.

I am interested in buying some SCUD missle launcher's. If you have any, please sell them to me.

Why would you want to buy innacurate SCUDS? Buy cruise missiles!

because while scuds are inaccurate, they are much cheaper than Cruise missiles, and if he's going ot be firing them at large clusters of troops and vehicles, or dencly poplutated areas, or with cluster munitions, chemical or biological warheads *you get the idea* then its effectivness outweights its ineffencientcy.

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what does a SCUD missile actually do?

Ask your people in Dra-pol how the FROGs felt and then ..imagine something similar to that, heh.

A scud is the second generation of the V-2 rockets, it works by firing a very large, unguided munition along a set trajectory, it was produced by the Russians by the thousands durring the cold war, and after the war had ended, they sold them to recoup their costs and attempt to stem a dying economy.

A scud is the second generation of the V-2 rockets, it works by firing a very large, unguided munition along a set trajectory, it was produced by the Russians by the thousands durring the cold war, and after the war had ended, they sold them to recoup their costs and attempt to stem a dying economy.

because while scuds are inaccurate, they are much cheaper than Cruise missiles, and if he's going ot be firing them at large clusters of troops and vehicles, or dencly poplutated areas, or with cluster munitions, chemical or biological warheads *you get the idea* then its effectivness outweights its ineffencientcy.

Large clusters of troops and vehicles? With a CEP of a mile or more it would have to be an awfully big cluster of troops....additionally with early warning radar troops on the ground could be given some time to disperse or seek shelter. Hell when the Iraqis fired their scuds against deployed iranian troops during the Iran/Iraq war they never really got close. They even had troubble targeting Iranian military installations with the scuds.

As far as chemical/biological weapons are concerned you escallate the conflict and your opponent will respond in kind. Which means you are still stuck with innacurate and a nearly useless weapon system.

Anyone selling SCUD missiles to White Ireland will have an angry Resi to deal with. Remember that we have much, much worse things than nukes at our disposal.

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He's also a newbie, and for a newbie, this would be a decent weapon system, if you take a look at the V-2 rockets used at the end of WW2, its mostly used for indiscrimate strikes against large civilian clusters, and if you use ABC warheads on them, then you have a cheap delivery system where the sheer destruction outweights the nil accuracy, as as for nearly useless, if the Patriot systems hadn't been in Isreal to shoot them down, then they would have done thier job just fine. honestly, Cruise missiles, targeted munitions, ICBMs, they are very accurate, and work wonders, but they are also damned expencive, not every nation and certainly not a new nation can affoard to spend such a high amount of money per ordinance. And Resi, nothing to worry about on my end, we never invested in scud missiles, so we don't have any to sell in the first place.

He's also a newbie, and for a newbie, this would be a decent weapon system, if you take a look at the V-2 rockets used at the end of WW2, its mostly used for indiscrimate strikes against large civilian clusters, and if you use ABC warheads on them, then you have a cheap delivery system where the sheer destruction outweights the nil accuracy, as as for nearly useless, if the Patriot systems hadn't been in Isreal to shoot them down, then they would have done thier job just fine. honestly, Cruise missiles, targeted munitions, ICBMs, they are very accurate, and work wonders, but they are also damned expencive, not every nation and certainly not a new nation can affoard to spend such a high amount of money per ordinance. And Resi, nothing to worry about on my end, we never invested in scud missiles, so we don't have any to sell in the first place.

NBC actually :P The pat's were almost totally ineffective in taking out the Iraqi SCUD-D's. You see the Iraqi's modified their scuds by adding on a 9 foot long section which would hold more liquid fuel and increase range. Problem is that this caused instability in the re-entry phase and the SCUD would often break up (Giving the impression of successfull Patriot intercepts)

Even if they didn't break apart, or get intercepted by a ABM..the scuds still would have had to rely on dumb luck to hit anything important. IN order to effectivly take out a target it would require dozens if not hundreds of scuds. They may be cheaper, but at some point it's simply going to be cheaper to invest in a smaller number of cruise missiles or smart bombs (Which only cost around 10-20,000 per unit) Also you have to consider the limited range of most scud models (90-150km) your enemy would have to be very, very close. For the cost of purchasing a couple hundred scuds I would much rather equip a squadron or two of fighter bombers with smart weapons.