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The Omzian PLF Navy has decided to purchase up to 4 dreadnoughts to replace the Soyuz IV battleships inside the Omzian Navy.

Please post the specs below, and we will select the best one.

Omzian PLF Navy

Weren't Dreadnaughts made obsolescent by the development of the aircraft carrier?

We'll Sell You Some! :wink:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60741

Not dreadnaughts persay, but still very damn effective.

Scroll down to the second one.

OOC:

We'll Sell You Some! :wink:
You are a crater. Stay in Character.

And this is modern tech only, no space tech with those mega lasers and super ion cannons and stuff.

Weren't Dreadnaughts made obsolescent by the development of the aircraft carrier?

It can still act as a battleship.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60741

Not dreadnaughts persay, but still very damn effective.

We are looking for dreadnaughts specifically.

Thanks for the offer though.

What do you mean, exactly, by "Dreadnaught"?

All a dreadnaught is is a large battleship. I personally beleive battlecruisers are more useful.

What do you mean, exactly, by "Dreadnaught"?

Argh, bad spelling. Thanks for the correction.

Those are just ships that can launch aircrafts and act as a battleship, if you don't know.

Then you need the most powerful ship in the game:

BCVN 1
HNS Marx class Dreadnought

Displacement (tons): 174 640 tons
Speed (kts): 32 knots
Dimensions (m): 370 meters (1214') long overall
340 meters (1115'6") long at waterline
75 meters (250') beam
90 meters (300') width overall
12 (33'5")meters draft


Propulsion: 6 nuclear reactors, 8 screws
Crew: 1 200 + 900 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center
Aviation Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control

Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
16 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
12 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control
8 LR-440 Hot Flash SA-16 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 16 x 4 Mako ASM
16 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
12 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
8 SA-16 Ghosthunter long range SAM system
64 SS-N-27 Lancer cruise missile VLS cells

Guns: 9x420mm bombardment cannon
10x125mm bombardment cannon
36x40mm AA cannon
36x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS

Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Armor:

Belt: 22"
Deck: 14"
Turret Face/Side: 24"/16"
Conning Tower: 22"

Air Wing:

Fighter: 12 F-33C Sniper fighter aircraft
24 FV-35A Joint Strike Fighter tactical fighter V/STOL aircraft
Attack: 12 A-24B Avenger tactical strike aircraft
12 AH-68E(Ka 52) SeaWolf helicopters
ASW: 4 S-24A Avenger ASW aircraft, 4 SH-62(Ka 60) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
Other: 2 E-24A Avenger AEW-C aircraft, 2 E-24B Avenger ECM aircraft
Total Air Wing: 72 Aircraft, 56 fixed wing, 16 rotary wing


Description:

Pan-Haaregradian Defence Institute and the Pan-Haaregradian Armed Forces: Naval Command issued a call for a large vessel capable of operating as both a battleship for ground bombardment and an aircraft carrier for force projection. It was believed a vessel of this nature would be able to both fight with devastating effectiveness and perhaps even be able to dominate the waters through fear of it's possible useage. The vessel was designed like most Haaregradian naval vessels are, tough as nails and covered with weapons. The armor is thicker then any comparable WWII vessel(USS Iowa for example) and uses newer, much stronger steel alloys. The vessel is very fast for a ship of it's size.

The Marx class dreadnought excels in many roles, however it is truely devestating as a marine support vessel in conjunction with smaller amphibious assualt carriers. It can launch heavier aircraft then can Wasp class amphibious assualt carriers, and can provide the type of firepower needed to devestate enemy positions before the Marines land.

In the recent Haaregradian/Metropolis Industries war the vessels proved particularily devastating against smaller enemy ships that had become pinned in their harbour.

The Marx class dreadnought was designed and produced by Lyulka Shipyards OKB, who previously designed numerous other vessels for the Haaregradian Naval Command, along with several large tankers, cargo ships and cruiseliners.
The total cost of R&D on the vessel is currently classified and the cost per unit for Haaregradian Naval Command is also classified.

Price for foreign sales is $7 250 000 000USD. This price is also pending approval for export.
Time to build is 1 year NS(however long you play a year as).

Picture is below
http://haaregradia.20megsfree.com/bcvn01marx.html

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Can this dreadnaught be fit with missile launchers that can fire NATO equivalent munitions, instead of the Russian-based and custom ones?

Ah well, we will order 4. $29 billion I believe.

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Can this dreadnaught be fit with missile launchers that can fire NATO equivalent munitions, instead of the Russian-based and custom ones?

Ah well, we will order 4. $29 billion I believe.

Yes it can, it's all in the software. The Ghosthunter would be replaced with the Standard, the Adder with the Sea Sparrow and the Archer with the Chapparal or Rolling Frame Missile(or something like that :?).

Order confirmed, these will be manufactured in Silberklinge, at the Lyulka Shipyards OKB division there.

Very good! It would be even better if the VLS cells to fire the range of NATO munitions that the NATO VLS system can fire, including SM-2, SM-3, Tomahawk, Harpoon, SLAM, ASROC, LASM, and even our own munitions.

Money wired, thank you.

[OOC: I suppose, the RAM is designed fro a short fleet defence AA missile, quite effective tho.

Calarca has a multi-role dreadnought capable of launching aircraft.

Very good! It would be even better if the VLS cells to fire the range of NATO munitions that the NATO VLS system can fire, including SM-2, SM-3, Tomahawk, Harpoon, SLAM, ASROC, LASM, and even our own munitions.

Money wired, thank you.

[OOC: I suppose, the RAM is designed fro a short fleet defence AA missile, quite effective tho.

The VLS on it can fire any surface to surface munition, however it is advisable to retain the missile turrets for the SAMs. We use a layered approach when it comes to air defense, with a mix of long range (100 mile+), medium range (25-95 miles) and short range(1-25 miles) missiles and multiple cannons. If you wish can modify the VLS for SAMs as well.

OOC: note the picture, the grey block by the front of the ship is the VLS.

Calarca has a multi-role dreadnought capable of launching aircraft.

OOC: This one can also launch them. Calarca's also seem very nice.

Thanks for the recommandation tho.

The VLS on it can fire any surface to surface munition, however it is advisable to retain the missile turrets for the SAMs. We use a layered approach when it comes to air defense, with a mix of long range (100 mile+), medium range (25-95 miles) and short range(1-25 miles) missiles and multiple cannons. If you wish can modify the VLS for SAMs as well.

OOC: note the picture, the grey block by the front of the ship is the VLS.

Very good. Our approach is to have SM-2s take 10% of the VLS, the ASROC ASW rockets take another 10%, the Harpoons take 60% of the VLS, and the Tomahawks take the rest.

Very attracting, glad to do business.

All a dreadnaught is is a large battleship. I personally beleive battlecruisers are more useful.

Actually the battlecruiser, which was basically a dreadnought with half the armor was a very poor battleship replacement. Battlecruisers, at least in the days of the Dreadnought-Iowa class battleships generally failed in use because they couldn't go toe to toe with battleships and smaller ships could outrun them.

Haaregradian naval theory generally pairs a battlecruiser with a supercarrier for additional defense. Sometimes they operate with battleships or our Marx class vessels too. They are rarely used as capital ships.

Omz222, your last ship is recieving her finishing touches. Enjoy these beasts.

Thank you.

As required in another thread, we will show the names we plan to give these ships:


BCVN 111: ONCS Marx (Marx Class Dreadnought)
BCVN 112: ONCS Unity
BCVN 113: ONCS All Might
BCVN 114: ONCS Cast

Thank you.

As required in another thread, we will show the names we plan to give these ships:


BCVN 111: ONCS Marx (Marx Class Dreadnought)
BCVN 112: ONCS Unity
BCVN 113: ONCS All Might
BCVN 114: ONCS Cast

Excellent choices.