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New Kriegsmarine - I'm buying

The Macabees
30-09-2003, 03:55
My old fleet has been scrapped due to its innefectiveness and its metal is going to go to Macabean warehouses to await use in our armament factories.
http://www.angelfire.com/music5/drunk_man/images/armamentsbanner.gif

...ok...

I have saved up funds over the last 2 RL weeks and am willing to put aside 4 trillion USD for a fleet. For maintainance im only willing to pay some 1.1 trillion USD annually, as it costs me some 800 billion to keep only 1/2 of my military mobilized at all times.

Im going to take contracts and I want a beatifully proportioned fleet that comes out to those numbers. I'm looking for all the kinds of ships such as Battleships, Destroyers, Submarines, Minesweepers, etc... (especially landing craft)....

This is to be completely modern and no concrete subs or uber-modern things some people pull.

Thank you...

P.S. Line up the ships you can build for me and the cost... the lowest cost may not be necessarily the best pick... remember well proportioned...

Emperor Finegold II
High Admiral Krecklow
The Resi Corporation
30-09-2003, 03:59
Covert Crawler
http://invisionfree.com/forums/Corporate_Islands/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=144
Designation: Transport
Environment: Underwater
Armor Thickness: 14 in
Size: 100 ft x 50 ft x 8 ft
Armaments: Ten (10) Torpedo Tubes up and down either side of the "spine", and dual (2) cutting water-cooled lasers
Top Speed: 150 mph
Max. Troop Compacity: 80 units
Specs: Using the biological structure of several marine animals (mostly crabs), Resi Corp. has designed an armored transport that moves troops by actually walking along the ocean floor. Ultra pressure-resistant, the Covert Crawler is the perfect place to hide troops from enemy eyes, as even submarines will have a tough time combatting something moving at this high of speeds. Airplanes, though faster than this, can easily be shot down by anti-aircraft fire and the troops inside killed. The Covert Crawler's oxygen system is based on a fluid-breathing system that we at Resi Corp. have developed (it absorbs oxygen from the water the way a fish does), and thus can stay underwater indefinately as long as the power source (plutonium) doesn't run out. That would make it about 200 years. As a side note, Covert Crawlers can be used on land, and unlike their cousins the Troop Crawlers, the Covert Crawlers have a system to keep the cells used in the fluid-breathing process alive (panels cover the cells, and water which is continually oxidised using the same method found in fish tanks is injected in). The Covert Crawler operates below radar, so there is no nead to fear detection when it lands.
Cost: $100,000,000 each
http://invisionfree.com:54/135/37/upload/p146.jpg
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Atlantis-Class Assult Sub
http://invisionfree.com/forums/Corporate_Islands/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=141
Designation: Combat
Environment: Underwater
Armor Thickness: Variable (3" to 3'), steel, titanium, and living tissue
Size: 2,500 ft x 100 ft x 100 ft
Armaments: Twenty Heavy Plasma Cannons, 60 minigun turrets, nukes (up to 15), anti-ship mines, 40 torpedo tubes
Top Speed: 750 mph
Max. Troop Compacity: 1,000
Specs: The Atlantis Class of submarines are akin to an underwater base rather than just a normal sub. Huge and able to take on an entire fleet, these subs are even more feared than the notorious Triton neuclear submarines. It employs the same cells that octopi use for camophlauge to disguise itself from foes as a rock formation or as a pattern of sand. This, when coupled with its sonar-absorbing skin, make it completely invisible. It employs fluid breathing and Plasma energy to make it entirely self-sufficent, and it uses a aquatic version of the scramjet engine to make it the fastest sub on Earth. It emploies plasma torpedos and plasma beams, making it have the most advanced arsenal of any sub in existance.
Cost: $50,000,000,000 each
http://invisionfree.com:54/135/37/upload/p152.jpg
The Macabees
30-09-2003, 04:02
Those are sweet weapons which I would buy if I wasnt modern. But nonetheless very sweet weaponry.
The Resi Corporation
30-09-2003, 04:03
Those are sweet weapons which I would buy if I wasnt modern. But nonetheless very sweet weaponry.You're modern? Awww...

You make Resi cry... :cry:
Talkos
30-09-2003, 04:06
Well, here's some of our Gato class subs, definitly modern. Perfect for an expanding fleet, so cheap you could just ram your enemies with them. So popular we've had to take them off the market after the first two day becasuse production couldn't keep up with demand. And now we're just reopening them up to foreign export. For a low, low, once in a lifetime price of 40 million USD.

Gato Class Submarines:
Displacement: 1526 tons surfaced, 2424 tons submerged
Length: 311'
Beam: 27'3"
Draft: 16'10"
Speed: 20 knots surfaced, 9 knots submerged
Armament: 3"gun/.50machine gun, 6 bow and 4 stern torpedo tubes, 24 21" torpedoes (loaded tubes plus reloads: 10 forward, 4 aft)
Complement: 80
Operating Depth: 300 feet
Cruising Range: 11,000 miles surfaced at 10 knots.
Submerged Endurance: 48 hours at 2 knots.
Fuel Capacity: 94,400 gallons.
Patrol Endurance: 75 days.
Diesel engines, surfaced/electric motors, submerged
Propulsion: Diesel-electric reduction gear with 4 main generator engines,
1 aux. generator.
4 main motors with 5,400 shaft horse power.
2 126-cell main storage batteries.
Soviet Haaregrad
30-09-2003, 04:07
BCVN 1
HNS Marx class Dreadnought

Displacement (tons): 174 640 tons
Speed (kts): 32 knots
Dimensions (m): 370 meters (1214') long overall
340 meters (1115'6") long at waterline
75 meters (250') beam
90 meters (300') width overall
12 (33'5")meters draft


Propulsion: 6 nuclear reactors, 8 screws
Crew: 1 200 + 900 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center
Aviation Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control

Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
16 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
12 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control
8 LR-440 Hot Flash SA-16 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 16 x 4 Mako ASM
16 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
12 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
8 SA-16 Ghosthunter long range SAM system
64 SS-N-27 Lancer cruise missile VLS cells

Guns: 9x420mm bombardment cannon
10x125mm bombardment cannon
36x40mm AA cannon
36x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS

Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Armor:

Belt: 22"
Deck: 14"
Turret Face/Side: 24"/16"
Conning Tower: 22"

Air Wing:

Fighter: 12 F-33C Sniper fighter aircraft
24 FV-35A Joint Strike Fighter tactical fighter V/STOL aircraft
Attack: 12 A-24B Avenger tactical strike aircraft
12 AH-68E(Ka 52) SeaWolf helicopters
ASW: 4 S-24A Avenger ASW aircraft, 4 SH-62(Ka 60) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
Other: 2 E-24A Avenger AEW-C aircraft, 2 E-24B Avenger ECM aircraft
Total Air Wing: 72 Aircraft, 56 fixed wing, 16 rotary wing


Description:

Pan-Haaregradian Defence Institute and the Pan-Haaregradian Armed Forces: Naval Command issued a call for a large vessel capable of operating as both a battleship for ground bombardment and an aircraft carrier for force projection. It was believed a vessel of this nature would be able to both fight with devastating effectiveness and perhaps even be able to dominate the waters through fear of it's possible useage. The vessel was designed like most Haaregradian naval vessels are, tough as nails and covered with weapons. The armor is thicker then any comparable WWII vessel(USS Iowa for example) and uses newer, much stronger steel alloys. The vessel is very fast for a ship of it's size.

The Marx class dreadnought excels in many roles, however it is truely devestating as a marine support vessel in conjunction with smaller amphibious assualt carriers. It can launch heavier aircraft then can Wasp class amphibious assualt carriers, and can provide the type of firepower needed to devestate enemy positions before the Marines land.

In the recent Haaregradian/Metropolis Industries war the vessels proved particularily devastating against smaller enemy ships that had become pinned in their harbour.

The Marx class dreadnought was designed and produced by Lyulka Shipyards OKB, who previously designed numerous other vessels for the Haaregradian Naval Command, along with several large tankers, cargo ships and cruiseliners.
The total cost of R&D on the vessel is currently classified and the cost per unit for Haaregradian Naval Command is also classified.

Price for foreign sales is $7 250 000 000USD. This price is also pending approval for export.
Time to build is 1 year NS(however long you play a year as).

Picture is below
http://haaregradia.20megsfree.com/bcvn01marx.html
Soviet Haaregrad
30-09-2003, 04:09
CVN 1
HNS Amon Amarth (Mount Doom) class Aircraft Carrier

Displacement (tons): 71 950 tons
Speed (kts): 42 knots
Dimensions (m): 270 meters (900') long overall
224 meters (746') long at waterline
32 meters (105') beam
65 meters (213') width overall
8.5 (28')meters draft


Propulsion: 2 nuclear reactors, 4 screws
Crew: 1 000 + 900 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center
Aviation Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control

Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
8 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
6 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control
4 LR-440 Hot Flash SA-16 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 8 x 4 Mako ASM(or Harpoon/Exocet)
8 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
6 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
4 SA-16 Ghosthunter long range SAM system
2x8 SS-N-27 Lancer cruise missile VLS cells(or other)

Guns: 24x40mm AA cannon
24x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS
Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Armor:

Belt: 20"
Deck: 12"
Conning Tower: 21"

Air Wing:

Fighter: 24 F-33C Sniper fighter aircraft
Attack: 24 A-24B Avenger tactical strike aircraft
12 AH-68E(Ka 52) SeaWolf helicopters or 12 AV-8D Harrier II or 12 FV-8B SeaHarrier aircraft
ASW: 4 S-24A Avenger ASW aircraft, 4 SH-62(Ka 60) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
Other: 2 E-24A Avenger AEW-C aircraft, 2 E-24B Avenger ECM aircraft
Total Air Wing: 72 Aircraft, 56 fixed wing, 16 rotary wingDescription:

The HNS Amon Amarth class multirole aircraft carrier is designed to support landing operations and escort convoys. It features a thru-deck ramp system and also two mag-lift catapult on an angled deck. The carrier is designed for quick turn arounds for aircrews, and is capable of landing and launching aircraft at the same time. The carrier has two elevators on the starboard side to take aircraft from their hangers to the deck. The ship is designed to engage airborne, surface and subsurface targets with equal ease. Anti submarine capability comes from the Udav-1 integrated anti-submarine system with 60 anti-submarine rockets. The ship took two years from conception to final build, and had a total cost of $2.6 billion.
Soviet Haaregrad
30-09-2003, 04:10
CVN 15
HNS Carpathia class Aircraft Carrier

Displacement (tons): 112 950 tons
Speed (kts): 38 knots
Dimensions (m): 340 meters (1133') long overall
312 meters (1040') long at waterline
75 meters (250') beam
90 meters (300') width overall
10 (33')meters draft


Propulsion: 2 nuclear reactors, 4 screws
Crew: 2 800 + 2 000 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center
Aviation Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control

Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
16 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
12 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control
8 LR-440 Hot Flash SA-16 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 16 x 4 Mako ASM
16 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
12 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
8 SA-16 Ghosthunter long range SAM system
16 SS-N-27 Lancer cruise missile VLS cells

Guns: 36x40mm AA cannon
36x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS
Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Armor:

Belt: 22"
Deck: 14"
Conning Tower: 22"

Air Wing:

Fighter: 24 F-33C Sniper fighter aircraft
24 F-37C Super Fulcrum fighter aircraft
Attack: 36 A-24B Avenger naval strike aircraft
ASW: 4 S-24A Avenger ASW aircraft, 4 SH-62(Ka 60) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
Other: 2 E-24A Avenger AEW-C aircraft, 2 E-24B Avenger ECM aircraft
Total Air Wing: 96 Aircraft, 92 fixed wing, 4 rotary wing

Description:

After production began for the first two of the Amon Amarth class aircraft carriers Haaregradian military planners drew up plans for a larger aircraft carrier, able to carry larger aircraft and operate for longer periods of time. Naval Command of course went back to Lyulka Shipyards OKB due to their long experience with designing large vessels and the result was the Carpathia class carrier and it's sibling, the Fortress class battleship. The end result was a very powerful carrier that was rather modestly priced, at little over $4.5 billion.
Soviet Haaregrad
30-09-2003, 04:12
BBGN 1
HNS Fortress class Battleship

Displacement (tons): 102 450 tons
Speed (kts): 42 knots
Dimensions (m): 340 meters (1133') long overall
312 meters (1040') long at waterline
75 meters (250') beam
10 (33')meters draft




Propulsion: 2 nuclear reactors, 4 screws
Crew: 1 700 + 240 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Aviation Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation
Fly Trap B(min) Aircraft Control

Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
8 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
6 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control
4 LR-440 Hot Flash SA-16 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 16 x 4 Mako ASM
16 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
12 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
8 SA-16 Ghosthunter long range SAM system
64 SS-N-21 Sunburn cruise missile VLS cells

Guns: 9x420mm bombardment cannon
12x125mm bombardment cannon
36x40mm AA cannon
36x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS

Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Armor:

Belt: 22"
Deck: 14"
Turret Face/Side: 24"/16"
Conning Tower: 22"

Air Wing:

Fighter: 4 FV-35A Joint Strike Fighter tactical fighter V/STOL aircraft
Attack: 4 AH-68E(Ka 52) SeaWolf helicopters
ASW: 4 SH-62(Ka 60) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
The Macabees
30-09-2003, 04:12
@ Soviet H.

That's a beast and would cost me hundreds of millions for maintanance for probably just 5 but I'll buy 5 of the HNS Marx class Dreadnought . That would be... 36 billion 250 million USD.

@Talkos

I'll purchase 30 of these subs... how much do you believe it would cost for the maintance of 30 of these vessels?

The total cost would be 1,200,000,000 USD.

*money wired upon confirmation*
Soviet Haaregrad
30-09-2003, 04:15
@ Soviet H.

That's a beast and would cost me hundreds of millions for maintanance for probably just 5 but I'll buy 5 of the HNS Marx class Dreadnought . That would be... 36 billion 250 million USD.

I'm guessing you mean the Marx? Yes, she is truely a monster. Half of Metropolis Industries' navy surrendered rather then face the wrath of this behemoth. These vessels will be delivered within seven(7) years.
Soviet Haaregrad
30-09-2003, 04:17
One last ship to sell:

BCGN 1
HNS David Oglive class Battlecruiser

Displacement (tons): 70 450 tons
Speed (kts): 49 knots
Dimensions (m): 270 meters (900') long overall
224 meters (746') long at waterline
32 meters (105') beam
8.5 (28')meters draft


Propulsion: 2 nuclear reactors, 4 screws
Crew: 1 000 + 100 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation


Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
8 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
6 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control
4 LR-440 Hot Flash SA-16 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 16 x 4 Mako ASM
16 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
12 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
8 SA-16 Ghosthunter long range SAM system
64 SS-N-21 Sunburn cruise missile VLS cells

Guns: 6x420mm bombardment cannon
10x125mm bombardment cannon
24x40mm AA cannon
24x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS
Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Armor:

Belt: 20"
Deck: 12"
Turret Face/Side: 22"/12"
Conning Tower: 21"

Air Wing:

Attack: 4 AH-68E(Ka 52) SeaWolf helicopters
ASW: 4 SH-62(Ka 60) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
The Macabees
30-09-2003, 04:19
3 of the HNS Amon Amarth (Mount Doom) class Aircraft Carrier and 3 of the HNS Carpathia class Aircraft Carrier.

Total cost comes to 13.5 billion + 7.8 billion = 21.3 billion USD

How much do you estimate for maintainance?

Now I'm looking for other types of ships... maybe a few more battleships..depending on the money I spent.
The Macabees
30-09-2003, 04:22
10 of the HNS David Oglive class Battlecruisers. I couldn't find a price, sorry.
Talkos
30-09-2003, 04:26
@ Soviet H.

That's a beast and would cost me hundreds of millions for maintanance for probably just 5 but I'll buy 5 of the HNS Marx class Dreadnought . That would be... 36 billion 250 million USD.

@Talkos

I'll purchase 30 of these subs... how much do you believe it would cost for the maintance of 30 of these vessels?

The total cost would be 1,200,000,000 USD.

*money wired upon confirmation*

Order confirmed, we will either send them over on prize crews or you can send your own sailors to take them back to your ports....And as for the upkeep costs...cheap, the only really complicated electronics are in the targeting sonar systems. About 3-6mil per year for the 30, depending on how much use they get, not including replenishment of perishibles.
The Macabees
30-09-2003, 04:28
@ Soviet H.

That's a beast and would cost me hundreds of millions for maintanance for probably just 5 but I'll buy 5 of the HNS Marx class Dreadnought . That would be... 36 billion 250 million USD.

@Talkos

I'll purchase 30 of these subs... how much do you believe it would cost for the maintance of 30 of these vessels?

The total cost would be 1,200,000,000 USD.

*money wired upon confirmation*

Order confirmed, we will either send them over on prize crews or you can send your own sailors to take them back to your ports....And as for the upkeep costs...cheap, the only really complicated electronics are in the targeting sonar systems. About 3-6mil per year for the 30, depending on how much use they get, not including replenishment of perishibles.

To not waste your valuable time trained crews will arrive in merchant ships whereever your direct them to land.
Talkos
30-09-2003, 04:31
To not waste your valuable time trained crews will arrive in merchant ships whereever your direct them to land.

Alright, we'll tell our patrols to expect their arrival. Good doing business with you.
Soviet Haaregrad
30-09-2003, 04:31
3 of the HNS Amon Amarth (Mount Doom) class Aircraft Carrier and 3 of the HNS Carpathia class Aircraft Carrier.

Total cost comes to 13.5 billion + 7.8 billion = 21.3 billion USD

How much do you estimate for maintainance?

Now I'm looking for other types of ships... maybe a few more battleships..depending on the money I spent.

10 of the HNS David Oglive class Battlecruisers. I couldn't find a price, sorry.


The Amon Amarth costs roughly 1/2 of a Nimitz to maintain and the Carpathia roughly 2/3s of a Nimitz. The Marx still only costs as much as the rather outdated Nimitz.

The David Oglive costs $1.8 billion and shares a hull with the Amon Amarth class carrier. I'll give you one of the battlecruisers for half price due to your huge boost for my economy.

All orders confirmed, that will be $17 100 000 000.
The Macabees
30-09-2003, 04:33
*all funds for all parties which I am debted too have been paid*

EDIT: Thank you very much Soviet Haaregrad!!
Great Mateo
30-09-2003, 04:39
Manta Class fast attack minisub

Length: 30 feet
Height: 9 feet
Width: 28 feet
Max speed with standard armament: 75 knots
Max Operating Depth: 700 feet (home sub may not go below this depth either, or the mini sub will be crushed)
Crew: 3
Combat Radius: 100 miles
Armament: 10 horizontal launch tubes, which can hold any tube launched weapon under 20 feet in length, including Mk. 48 and torpedo tube launched Tomahawk cruise missiles. Tubes can be simultaneously fired. No added storage. Comes with Mk. 50 torpedoes.
Cost: 525 million, 10% discount to regional allies, and 10% discount on orders of more than 8.
http://i.timeinc.net/popsci/images/science/sci0403subs_A1.jpg

Deployed from a larger sub, this vessel's speed and ability to empty all of its weaponry at once makes it perfect for fast hit and run attacks on enemy coast lines. The high amount of noise it generates while operating does not matter in most cases, because its amazing speed enables it to outrun most torpedoes. In fact, this speedy ship is able to become completely airborne for a very brief moment when performing an emergency rise at full speed. Its short combat radius requires it to return to the "mother" sub or base very often for refueling, limiting it to fast attack and return missions, close quarters aid for battles with other subs, and close range coastal defense.

Tube launched Tomahawks and Mk. 48 torpedoes will be available for purchase as well within 2 weeks RL.
Soviet Haaregrad
30-09-2003, 04:41
*all funds for all parties which I am debted too have been paid*

EDIT: Thank you very much Soviet Haaregrad!!

All of your vessels should be recieved within the next ten years, In fact Lyulka Shipyards OKB is opening up another factory to produce vessels for you, Omz222 and Haaregradian Naval Command.
The Macabees
30-09-2003, 04:44
10 Mantas for 5.250 billion ... forget the discount...
Great Mateo
30-09-2003, 04:47
Order confirmed, they should arrive in 3-4 days RL.