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International Space Hub under construction (plz read)

Benderland
29-09-2003, 20:50
Since nations can lay claim to individual planets, sometimes travel past the Earth's orbit can be hard, especially with resupply posts few and far between. Therefore, The Kingdom of Benderland has come up with a plan to have an international space hub in stationary orbit around Sol, between the planets of Earth and Mars.

The hub will be more than just a place for ships to refuel, it will also be a place of commerce and recreation. Powered by a fusion core, the station will be home to casinos, restaurants, hotels, maybe even sports arenas. We have also thought of having a shuttle service that can transport passengers to the station, even if the nation they're coming from a nation that has not yet set their foot in space, or at least this far.

The plan is to have the station powered by a clean fusion core (I will provide it) and nations can help construction by donating money, research, or if they're really ambitious, construct their own modules to be added to the hub. Our scientists are already working on the calculations for how to put this object in orbit.

The hub itself will be a wheel-shaped design, constantly spinning to provide artificial gravity. It's a very standard design, but due to the constant power it will recieve from the core, the size of it can be enormous. Much bigger than anything placed in Earth's orbit.

We really wish that this project proceeds as planned, but it will not be initiated without the help of other nations. We can't do it alone. Also, because it is an international project, the laws governing the station will have to be discussed among the nations participating.
Klonor
29-09-2003, 20:52
I whole heartedly support this movement. Our primary ship/station construcion company, Triton Dynamics, shall be dispatched to help with the construction.


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Blademasters
29-09-2003, 20:53
(OOC: and how big is this fusion core going to be? most of my larger warships have multiples... but thats just because of the immense power requirements...)

We would like to donate some construction Avatars to assist you in building this staion, they can function 4x more efficiently than human workers.
Benderland
29-09-2003, 20:55
(OOC: and how big is this fusion core going to be? most of my larger warships have multiples... but thats just because of the immense power requirements...)

The fusion core will be farily large, about the size that powers our cities (or districts, I should say. Benderland is one giant metropolis).
Blademasters
29-09-2003, 20:56
(OOC: okay... I was thinking that one fusion core wouldn't power too much)
Padmasa
29-09-2003, 21:12
Any aid Padmasa can contribute will be sent, just send us the word.
29-09-2003, 21:15
We will donate $500bn to this project, and we will be pleased to commence construction on a module. Just let us know what you want built, and we will have it done.

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Benderland
29-09-2003, 21:28
The construction of your own module is up to you. Benderland and other countries that voulenteer specifically for the task of the essential parts of the space station will be taken care of. That includes life support systems, powering, transportation devices around the station, refueling and repair docks, etc. The modules you construct can be anything that you want. Within the laws of the station. But we have not decided upon that yet. Here are my suggestions:

1.) Obvious laws obeyed on earth in pretty much every nation should be in effect. Example: Laws against murder, rape, etc.

2.) Either nations can use ports for military resupply without restriction, or absolutley no military vehicles can use the facilites unless they have a permit for something like a spectator display or convention.

3.) The more potent drugs are prohibited on the space station, such as cocaine, and heroine. But marijuana is up for debate. Personally I'd like to exclude all drugs that have legality issues tied to them just to avoid problems like that. However, alcohol and tobacco products are obviously allowed in the hub.

4.) No nation shall be barred from use of the resupply areas.

5.) Any acts of terrorism comitted on the station will be considered an act against all nations that use it.
Blademasters
29-09-2003, 21:31
What exactly do you need us to build? and how long do youneed it to be built in?
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 21:33
I will donate one trillion dollars to your cause. That's ok right? Just tell me when to wire it :wink: BUT It must go through. I dont want to fund a project that's going to fail.
Benderland
29-09-2003, 21:39
There's going to be two main structures. There's the station itself, and the docks. The docks may be connected to the staton by a rotating port, so the station can rotate freely but the docks remain stationary. The fusion core will be constructed by us. The rest of the station will also be constructed by us, and any other nations. This includes the station's frame, essential modules such as life support, hospitals, security, etc., a monorail transport system, and anything else you can think of.

As far as the recreational modules go, that's up to you. They must be able to fit onto the "wheel" and connect to other modules. The frame of the modules must all be the same size and construction so they can all interlock to form the "wheel". A sketch of what we're looking for will be up shortly.
Benderland
29-09-2003, 21:39
I will donate one trillion dollars to your cause. That's ok right? Just tell me when to wire it :wink: BUT It must go through. I dont want to fund a project that's going to fail.

You simply cannot afford to donate that much financial capital. You're too young. Try something else.
Blademasters
29-09-2003, 21:41
We can build the docks, how big should they be? 3km? bigger? smaller?
29-09-2003, 21:41
Very well. We shall commence construction on security and policing module(s).
Benderland
29-09-2003, 21:46
We can build the docks, how big should they be? 3km? bigger? smaller?

We're expecting heavy traffic if this goes as planned, so most likley bigger. There should be a section that can house the larger craft such as frigates and cruise liners, and then one for smaller craft such as shuttles and personal craft. In a pinch, it should be able to successfully dock a very large craft such as a flagship, but nothing like the 500 km long beasts I've seen.
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 21:46
I will donate one trillion dollars to your cause. That's ok right? Just tell me when to wire it :wink: BUT It must go through. I dont want to fund a project that's going to fail.

You simply cannot afford to donate that much financial capital. You're too young. Try something else.

I have 4 trillion left from my sales in Penguenian Aeorspace. Those profits obviouslt aren't represented in my GDP.
Klonor
29-09-2003, 21:47
Pen's right (assuming he hasn't miscalculated his sales). He has been selling ships for quite a nice profit. he should be able to afford the donation.
Benderland
29-09-2003, 21:47
Here is an idea of what the hub is going to look like.

http://www.physik.rwth-aachen.de/~hebbeker/lectures/ph1_0102/odyssey.gif

It will be larger, and we will be able to add more wheels onto one end if we need to.
Klonor
29-09-2003, 21:48
never mind.
29-09-2003, 21:49
Blademasters
29-09-2003, 21:49
29-09-2003, 21:51
We will send 100 of our scientists to aid your cause. We can also use our warp technology to move buildings from a home planet straight up to the station, should anybody wish to do so.
Crimmond
29-09-2003, 21:58
I would suggest that two dock sections be built. One for commerecial and one for Military. It would cost more, but would keep the heavy cruisers from clipping, or getting clipped by, some amature in a in a cruise ship.

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Benderland
29-09-2003, 22:12
Good idea, Crimmond.
Benderland
29-09-2003, 22:13
I have 4 trillion left from my sales in Penguenian Aeorspace. Those profits obviouslt aren't represented in my GDP.

I haven't thought of that, but wouldn't you use the money gained from sales for the construction of the ships you're selling?
Wazzu
29-09-2003, 22:17
Hermes Spacelines is easily capible of reaching Mars from Earth in 2-5 days, depending on its relative location. We are the most efficient Sol cargo carrier [[OOC: as extensively RPed]], if not the quickest, and have access to all planets from Venus to Saturn.

We would be more happy to sign a contract with the building parties. Not only would that earn us a heafty profit, it would save said contractors quite a bit of money.

Let us know.

-Bob Sanow, CEO Hermes Spacelines
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 22:19
the official Penguenian statement on it's profits:

My ships are all marked up by 50% leaving me a 50% profit. Following this system and subtracting the devolipment of a new cannon and the building of a fleet for myself, Penguenia actually only has $4,506,770,000,000 USD left after precice calcluations.
Benderland
29-09-2003, 22:24
Hermes Spacelines is easily capible of reaching Mars from Earth in 2-5 days, depending on its relative location. We are the most efficient Sol cargo carrier [[OOC: as extensively RPed]], if not the quickest, and have access to all planets from Venus to Saturn.

We would be more happy to sign a contract with the building parties. Not only would that earn us a heafty profit, it would save said contractors quite a bit of money.

Let us know.

-Bob Sanow, CEO Hermes Spacelines

Again, this is an international hub, so any country is permitted use of the station once completed, no contract required. The only exchange needed is the money for the resupply.

However, if you're going to create a recreational module, you need to clear it with me first. I'm not governing the station entirley, I just have to make sure the design will support it.
Benderland
29-09-2003, 22:26
the official Penguenian statement on it's profits:

My ships are all marked up by 50% leaving me a 50% profit. Following this system and subtracting the devolipment of a new cannon and the building of a fleet for myself, Penguenia actually only has $4,506,770,000,000 USD left after precice calcluations.

Alright, as long as you can afford it, your contribution is accepted.
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 22:33
After more precice calcluations we have $2,928,285,000,000. We will still contribute 1 trillion though, because we feel that this is important. We will wire the money when we are sure that this will go through to the end.
Benderland
30-09-2003, 02:29
*bump*
Wazzu
30-09-2003, 03:54
Hermes Spacelines is easily capible of reaching Mars from Earth in 2-5 days, depending on its relative location. We are the most efficient Sol cargo carrier [[OOC: as extensively RPed]], if not the quickest, and have access to all planets from Venus to Saturn.

We would be more happy to sign a contract with the building parties. Not only would that earn us a heafty profit, it would save said contractors quite a bit of money.

Let us know.

-Bob Sanow, CEO Hermes Spacelines

Again, this is an international hub, so any country is permitted use of the station once completed, no contract required. The only exchange needed is the money for the resupply.

However, if you're going to create a recreational module, you need to clear it with me first. I'm not governing the station entirley, I just have to make sure the design will support it.

You missunderstand. I represent the Wazzu based company Hermes Spacelines, not Wazzu itself.

I am not requesting permission to dock our ships, nor build onto the station. I am offering you a deal.

Think of it this way. Your creating a huge space station far away from any resource base...in fact, smack dab in between Earth and Mars. You need to get building materials, workers, equipment, food oxygen and water, and other supplies from several planets to your station's orbit. That requires cargo ships, cargo ships that Hermes Spacelines has in abundance.

What I am offering you is a contract. You contract out my company, and you get the most efficient in-system cargo hauling in Sol. You and your fellow contractors save money in transportation, Hermes Spacelines makes money instead of our compeditors.

So, are you interested in such a deal?

-Bob Sanow, CEO Hermes Spacelines
Big Long Now
30-09-2003, 04:07
The Federation of Big Long Now has been interested in space exploration for quite sometime, and is interested in participating in the construction of this hub. Before we begin donating funds to this cause, the Big Long Now Space Agency needs to know of the precautions that will be taken to prevent a catostrophic disaster (i.e. life support failure, terrorist attacks, etc.) from happening. We need to put into aspect that if a large amount of our population, or any other nation's population is caught in a mechanical failure or attack of some sort, thousands or maybe more lives could be lost.

After we have recieved and reviewed safety protocols for the space hub, BLN will begin discussing the maximum amount of money this project will recieve.

President Richard Evan
Federation of Big Long Now
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Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
Benderland
30-09-2003, 20:09
You missunderstand. I represent the Wazzu based company Hermes Spacelines, not Wazzu itself.

I am not requesting permission to dock our ships, nor build onto the station. I am offering you a deal.

Think of it this way. Your creating a huge space station far away from any resource base...in fact, smack dab in between Earth and Mars. You need to get building materials, workers, equipment, food oxygen and water, and other supplies from several planets to your station's orbit. That requires cargo ships, cargo ships that Hermes Spacelines has in abundance.

What I am offering you is a contract. You contract out my company, and you get the most efficient in-system cargo hauling in Sol. You and your fellow contractors save money in transportation, Hermes Spacelines makes money instead of our compeditors.

So, are you interested in such a deal?

-Bob Sanow, CEO Hermes Spacelines

Ah, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. We are able to transport our workers efficiently, but larger cargo we will need help with. What would be your price for hauling the building materials and some of the larger equipment?
Benderland
30-09-2003, 20:15
The Federation of Big Long Now has been interested in space exploration for quite sometime, and is interested in participating in the construction of this hub. Before we begin donating funds to this cause, the Big Long Now Space Agency needs to know of the precautions that will be taken to prevent a catostrophic disaster (i.e. life support failure, terrorist attacks, etc.) from happening. We need to put into aspect that if a large amount of our population, or any other nation's population is caught in a mechanical failure or attack of some sort, thousands or maybe more lives could be lost.

After we have recieved and reviewed safety protocols for the space hub, BLN will begin discussing the maximum amount of money this project will recieve.

President Richard Evan
Federation of Big Long Now
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Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA

Of course safety is the top priority during the construction of this hub. We wouldn't even think of starting without proper security and high-quality, reliable life support system. Again, this project has only just started. As of now, all materials and components that are being designed are checked and rechecked numerous times by a board of safety inspectors. Once components are completed, they will be thuroughly examined once again before being used in construction.

As far as security goes, only authorized personell will be allowed within the project. We will have a military guard on site in case of attack, but the chances of a terrorist group to be able to launch an attack in the area where the station is constructed is extremley unlikley. Nevertheless, strict security procedures will be followed to prevent breaches and acts of terrorism.
Wazzu
30-09-2003, 21:01
We can manage about 3500 metric tons per freighter load. Depending on how fast we can load/unload it with you, each freighter can make a run every 24-48 hours. The price to you? About US $350,000,000 per freighter per day. That comes out to about US $100 to $200 per kilogram. As I said, extremely efficient.

If you want us to orbit your equipment from Earth, it'll cost an additional US $2000 per kilogram, less then a tenth of what the US Space Shuttle costs.

As they say, once in orbit, your halfway to anywhere.

-Bob Sanow, CEO Hermes Spacelines.
Benderland
30-09-2003, 21:24
We can manage about 3500 metric tons per freighter load. Depending on how fast we can load/unload it with you, each freighter can make a run every 24-48 hours. The price to you? About US $350,000,000 per freighter per day. That comes out to about US $100 to $200 per kilogram. As I said, extremely efficient.

If you want us to orbit your equipment from Earth, it'll cost an additional US $2000 per kilogram, less then a tenth of what the US Space Shuttle costs.

As they say, once in orbit, your halfway to anywhere.

-Bob Sanow, CEO Hermes Spacelines.

This sounds like a good deal. We can get the components into orbit for assembly, but once assembled, we don't have much to haul them to the site. Although we could assemble it at the site, there's more risk of sending more ships out to the site then needed. So we will need you to ship the larger, assembled pieces once in orbit.
imported_Eniqcir
01-10-2003, 00:34
Exactly where in between Earth and Mars would this station be positioned? We wouldn't want it getting in the way of E-DS Alpha.

-Some Diplomat
Benderland
01-10-2003, 00:36
We have not decided the final location just yet.
Benderland
01-10-2003, 00:56
(bump)
Blademasters
01-10-2003, 01:06
Sorry 'bout the delay, I thought I ahd posted last night, but apparently not...

We will begin construction on two series of 120km long docks, one series for military, and one for civiliant traffic. We expect to be able to complete these docks within 20 years (NS time), and will be dispatching 20,000,000 construction Avatars to complete this project. Any questions or comments should be directed via TG to the homeworld.
Benderland
01-10-2003, 01:12
Excellent. The construction of the core and station frame is also ready to be initiated. Materials and crews are being shipped to a point halfway between Earth and Mars, the exact location is being sent to the nations involved in construction (OOC: I don't have a map, nor am I familiar with solar coodinates, but you get the idea). A prefabricated space station for the crews has been assembled in sections that will be quickly assembled and fuctional upon arrival.
Big Long Now
01-10-2003, 02:04
The BLNSA has reviewed your response, and has accepted to join in construction of building the space hub, and have begun discussing the funds that will be set aside for this project, and what will be constructed. We shall reply within 36-48 hours with what the Federation of Big Long Now decides the amount of funds given for this monumental project.

Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
Big Long Now
01-10-2003, 02:04
The BLNSA has reviewed your response, and has accepted to join in construction of building the space hub, and have begun discussing the funds that will be set aside for this project, and what will be constructed. We shall reply within 36-48 hours with what the Federation of Big Long Now decides the amount of funds given for this monumental project.

Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
imported_Eniqcir
01-10-2003, 03:30
(OOC: In order to avoid big diplomatic kaffufles and construction setbacks, I'm just going to assume an orbit opposite E-DSA. Unless you want to play the big kaffufles....)
Wazzu
01-10-2003, 03:33
Exactly where in between Earth and Mars would this station be positioned? We wouldn't want it getting in the way of E-DS Alpha.

-Some Diplomat

OOC: It won't be a problem. Everything is in an orbit...a very very large orbit.

Think of it this way. Both Mars and Earth orbit the sun. Mars is actually moving faster, but because Earth is closer, it complets orbits (years) more quickly. Thus, Earth and Mars come near each other every three years.

A station will be moving faster then Earth, but slower then Mars. It will complete orbits more quickly then Mars, but not as quickly as Earth.

Your station, ship, or whatever it is is probably in about the same orbit, so it need not be anywhere near this "hub." It could be on the other side of the sun...or it could be fairly close. It really doesn't matter. Space is so large that the chance of them crashing is tiny, and then only possible when one or both have an elyptical orbit.
Crimmond
01-10-2003, 03:36
I have authorized the use of the Crimmond convoy fleets to begin shipping sections that make up our modules of the ring to the site as soon as they are produced in Lunar Yard 1.

http://markbutler.8m.com/graphics/convoy640.jpg
Crimmond Cargo Tugs

Also 4.5 trillion USD will be donated over a two and a half year time period to help the project.

Oh, and I have a question. What fleet defenses are you providing during constrution? We have been having problems with some pirate cartels lately and wonder about our investments safety.
imported_Eniqcir
01-10-2003, 03:46
Exactly where in between Earth and Mars would this station be positioned? We wouldn't want it getting in the way of E-DS Alpha.

-Some Diplomat

OOC: It won't be a problem. Everything is in an orbit...a very very large orbit.

Think of it this way. Both Mars and Earth orbit the sun. Mars is actually moving faster, but because Earth is closer, it complets orbits (years) more quickly. Thus, Earth and Mars come near each other every three years.

A station will be moving faster then Earth, but slower then Mars. It will complete orbits more quickly then Mars, but not as quickly as Earth.

Your station, ship, or whatever it is is probably in about the same orbit, so it need not be anywhere near this "hub." It could be on the other side of the sun...or it could be fairly close. It really doesn't matter. Space is so large that the chance of them crashing is tiny, and then only possible when one or both have an elyptical orbit.

OOC: I know that, but I wasn't sure exactly what was meant by the statement "between Earth and Mars" in this case. Did it mean in any orbit between Earth and Mars, or did it mean in an orbit such that the station would literally be half way between the two worlds for a significant amount of time (likely when they are at their closest approach, although that is speculation)? If I assume the first, there's no problem at all. But if I assume the second, it could either be right on top of me, or diametrically opposite. Thus, not recieving any confirmation of exactly where the hub is, you will see that I later decided to assume that it would be far, far away, to avoid unpleasantness. And collision wouldn't really be the major problem, anyway- it would be managing the traffic in the area.
Big Long Now
01-10-2003, 06:03
After a quick consideration, the BLNSA and Federation of Big Long Now have decided to set aside 250 billion dollars USD to construct a research labritory and life support module and have it launched. We calculate costs here will reach 60 to 85 billion dollars, and the other funds will be set aside for future projects. We are very excited to be apart of this monumental project, and we think this will bring divided nations closer together.

President Richard Evan
Federation of Big Long Now
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Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
Benderland
01-10-2003, 20:40
Oh, and I have a question. What fleet defenses are you providing during constrution? We have been having problems with some pirate cartels lately and wonder about our investments safety.

The Kingdom of Benderland has decided to use some of its space fleet for defense, even though the fleet is still not complete and ready to be unveiled. We will be sending 50 MRF-12 Condors (a multi-role fighter class ship), 10 HC-5 Plymouths (a heavy corvette class ship), and two light carriers, each capable of maintaining 30 smaller ships, which will house all of the smaller craft we are sending.

If you do not feel that these forces are adequate for your defense, we do not mind if you send some of your own.
Blademasters
01-10-2003, 22:42
Due to the sheer number of our workers we are sending, we will be sending two of our warcruisers, and one of our heavy warcruisers to guard them, denial of this will result in the termination of our assistance, thank you for your time. Transport of our ConAvatars (number revised, 80 million are expected to be required, and project can be completed in four years) will begin shortly, with eight modified warcruisers transportin ten million each. Any future additions required to the docks will be completed as quickly as possible.
Benderland
01-10-2003, 22:58
Construction of the fusion core is under way, it is expected to be completed within 3 to 5 years. Until then, a smaller reactor has been shipped for any extra power the construction crews need.
Benderopia
02-10-2003, 01:16
(bump)
Benderland
02-10-2003, 01:25
Whoops. That was me.
Crimmond
02-10-2003, 04:50
I see. We will have one ship of at least destroyer class nearby at all times along with regular patrols by our border cutter class.

The first of the five main sections of one of the modules has been completed, the second is 20% completed(Lunar Yard 1 churns out ships like it's nothing, this is not a major task for the shipyard, just real big). Will be shiping as soon as the second is 50% completed.
Kormanthor
02-10-2003, 06:51
Could we open a casio, rest., hotel on your space hub?
Wazzu
02-10-2003, 07:04
Construction of the fusion core is under way, it is expected to be completed within 3 to 5 years. Until then, a smaller reactor has been shipped for any extra power the construction crews need.

It didn't take long for the reactor (or anything else sent via Hermes Spacelines) to arrive....

http://members.cox.net/davage/images/AndresHanfling(Vessel).jpg

OOC: Sorry if it is a bit large for some of you folks.
Kajal
02-10-2003, 09:07
The Principality of Kajal would like to donate 2.5 trillion USD towards the construction of a Military dockyards module for this station.

We can begin construction of the module in our own facilities, or we can begin construction at the station site. We will be installing grav-plating, which we acquired from our neighbors during our earlier days, to provide artificial gravity in sections that will not be able to rotate. The plating works through some sort of technobabble involving gravitons, which is far too complex for 99% of our civilians to even begin to comprehend.

Anywho, we can assist with the building of such a module if you've already begun, or we can deliver one with dimensions of 1.5 km x 3km x .75 km in a couple of years, around the completion date of the station.
Kanuckistan
02-10-2003, 10:45
The Dominion of Kanuckistan would be willing to contribute electro-chemical catylist atmospheric recyclers. A cylindrical unit one meter tall by one-half meter wide, it draws 250 watts and is capible of supporting 300 average hunam individuals. It is a solid-state system requioring no maintaince save the ocasional emptying of carbon, and other substances scruped from the atmosphere, from the collection tray.

We recomend it is implimented in such a way as to never exceed 5% capasity under normal curcumstances to insure excess capasity for dealing with eventualities such as fire or accidental chemical release.

Aside from the above-mentioned removal of scrubed material, maintaince and repair of non-functional units will be done by Kanuckistani personel; actually opening the device will result in component-destruction, to prevent unauthorised entities from obtaining our technologies.


You will still need water/sewage and heat, but this'll keep the air clean for you.
Benderland
02-10-2003, 20:38
Could we open a casio, rest., hotel on your space hub?

As long as you can afford to build and maintain it.

The Principality of Kajal would like to donate 2.5 trillion USD towards the construction of a Military dockyards module for this station.

We can begin construction of the module in our own facilities, or we can begin construction at the station site. We will be installing grav-plating, which we acquired from our neighbors during our earlier days, to provide artificial gravity in sections that will not be able to rotate. The plating works through some sort of technobabble involving gravitons, which is far too complex for 99% of our civilians to even begin to comprehend.

Anywho, we can assist with the building of such a module if you've already begun, or we can deliver one with dimensions of 1.5 km x 3km x .75 km in a couple of years, around the completion date of the station.

That module has not been started yet, so if you wish to take charge of it, let me know. Also, the station will take more than a couple years to complete. At this rate, it probably will not be finished for at least 15-20 years. We still have much to do.

The Dominion of Kanuckistan would be willing to contribute electro-chemical catylist atmospheric recyclers. A cylindrical unit one meter tall by one-half meter wide, it draws 250 watts and is capible of supporting 300 average hunam individuals. It is a solid-state system requioring no maintaince save the ocasional emptying of carbon, and other substances scruped from the atmosphere, from the collection tray.

We recomend it is implimented in such a way as to never exceed 5% capasity under normal curcumstances to insure excess capasity for dealing with eventualities such as fire or accidental chemical release.

Aside from the above-mentioned removal of scrubed material, maintaince and repair of non-functional units will be done by Kanuckistani personel; actually opening the device will result in component-destruction, to prevent unauthorised entities from obtaining our technologies.


You will still need water/sewage and heat, but this'll keep the air clean for you.

We accept your donation, thank you very much. This should provide a much simpler solution for air purification. The station's size, as of now, will be able to hold 750,000 people. So we will need 50,000 or more of your electro-chemical catylist atmospheric recyclers. However, if the station expands by adding more "wheels" to the first two, we will need more.

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Here's an update: the construction of the fusion core is going very well, and the frame is near completion. It will be finished by the end of next year, and the reactor will be operational a year after that. Once the frame is complete, construction of the necessary modules of the space station will begin simultaneously. That will be life support, control room, medical ward, security, and maintenence. A tubular monoral line will run the entire circumference of each of the wheels, allowing for faster access to any module on the station.

In case of emergency, we have designed an escape pod deck that will be in place on each wheel. Each pod will be able to hold 25 people, and once they are clear of danger, they are automatically guided to assemble in a central area so rescue can be quick and orderly. Plenty of food is available on each of them, and each are equipped with their own rescue beacon in case they are scattered.
Benderland
02-10-2003, 20:42
Also, Benderland will be assembling a module for recreational purposes. It will contain the following:

A 300 room hotel. 100 "econo-rooms", 100 standard rooms, and 50 deluxe suites.

A massive food court containing major food chains from countries across the globe.

A very large fine dining restaurant.

A rustic-themed bar, replicating the average "bar-on-every-corner" here on Earth. Yes, there will be a mechanical bull.

An elegant card and roulette casino. No slot machines, though.

And a large auditorium for concerts, shows, etc.
Benderland
03-10-2003, 00:17
*bump*
Blademasters
03-10-2003, 00:33
BTW Benderland, I'm building Military Docks and Civilian Docks (and when I say docks, I also imply shipyards, which could be leased out for production contracts)

Kajal: Our currently in construction military docks, which we began construction on earlier.... are much bigger than your planned module, thre docks linked together, each 120km long and capable of supporting up to 200 ships in each dock (depending on size)

The Two sets of docs are well into their construction phase, with the ConAvatars working around the clock to complete these massive ports.
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 00:34
All transmissions and supplies from Crimmond are stopped for reasons of extreme importance.

OOC: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76660 (you can skip to page 3 and it'll still tell you why)
Big Long Now
03-10-2003, 01:08
Important news from the Federation of Big Long Now:

A test launch of the PCP-A49 rocket designed to transport the life support module and research lab module exploded on the launch pad yesterday afternoon. Investigators soon revealed that there were major cracks in the hull of the wreckage, suggesting that the metals that were used in the construction of the PCP-A49 rockets had some rather unusual impurities making the metal weak, and causing it to break apart after a large amount of stress was brought upon the rocket. We currently have further investigations pending, but have no plans to use any rockets of our own for the launch of our modules at the time. We are currently looking to purchase two reusable shuttles for the launch of the modules and for transports to and from the space hub. Photos are prefered, but specifications and prices are required. We'd also hope to obtain a safety record for the shuttles, but it is currently not required from us. We hope to be doing business with you soon.

Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
=
President Richard Evan
Federation of Big Long Now
Blademasters
03-10-2003, 02:29
OOC: BigLongNow... how small are these modules if you're cramming them aboard a rocket? they should prbably be assembled in space... this is a large space station (not like the International Sapce Station... more like Babylon 5)
Wazzu
03-10-2003, 02:46
Important news from the Federation of Big Long Now:

A test launch of the PCP-A49 rocket designed to transport the life support module and research lab module exploded on the launch pad yesterday afternoon. Investigators soon revealed that there were major cracks in the hull of the wreckage, suggesting that the metals that were used in the construction of the PCP-A49 rockets had some rather unusual impurities making the metal weak, and causing it to break apart after a large amount of stress was brought upon the rocket. We currently have further investigations pending, but have no plans to use any rockets of our own for the launch of our modules at the time. We are currently looking to purchase two reusable shuttles for the launch of the modules and for transports to and from the space hub. Photos are prefered, but specifications and prices are required. We'd also hope to obtain a safety record for the shuttles, but it is currently not required from us. We hope to be doing business with you soon.

Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
=
President Richard Evan
Federation of Big Long Now

TransCorp generation 5 space shuttles are still sold on the open market here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32639&highlight=).

TransCorp can also ship non-living object to space via large, mountainside EM mass accelerator. Cost to orbit is about US$1000 per pound, or US$2200 per kilogram.

OOC: The thead is very very old, and Wazzu was selling its 3rd generation shuttles when it started. So, the generation 5 shuttle stats are not listed. But think of them this way:

1: 3 sizes, 30, 45, and 60 meters long.
2: No boosters required anymore.
3: Each can maintain 1g of acceleration in space for up to 24 hours, or up to mach 24 (orbital velocity) in an atmosphere for up to 8 hours.
4: Each uses a special type of fuel made only by Wazzu, but which isn't very expensive.
5: Oprational/Launch cost is about US $3000 per pound, or US $6,600 per kilogram (less then a third that of the US Space Shuttle).
6: The shuttles have been in production and on the market for a loooong time. They cost US $600 million, $800 million, and $900 million respectively (whereas the US Space Shuttle, a first generation product, costs 2 billion to make).
7: In general, they are better in every respect then the generation 3 shuttles that were being sold used at the time (which are listed from that link above).
Blademasters
03-10-2003, 13:23
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/falconrising2/spacedock.jpg
(created by me in DOGA)
The military spacedocks, completed and ready to be attached to the station.
Crimmond
03-10-2003, 15:58
News reports are stating that all space based extranational projects are being postponed for the time being as the government has finally revealed that Lunar Yard 1, the oldest functioning shipyard/dockyard in lunar orbit, has been disabled by a terrorist attack, destroying over 10 ships of the line, including the CSS Vladius, known for it's history of battling pirates, and the CSS Doomgiver, a Lion class dreadnaught that was flagship of the Third Fleet.

Inside Lunar Yard 1, several projects were underway for the Martian colonies and for the International Space Hub. All work on the Hub project has been ceased and all sections completed are being shipped to the site.

http://www.lensflare.com/~doubt/render/project/spacedock3.jpg
A Commercial Quad-Dock

http://www.lensflare.com/~doubt/render/new/spacedock.jpg
Closeup on one of the quads
(IC, that is NOT a ringed planet, it is Earth and that moon is the Moon)

The government is planning on keeping the promisied funding on time but construction will not begin for another six months(OOC: Oh, three or four days, no more than that)

OOC: Sorry 56Kers about the slightly large pics...
Benderland
04-10-2003, 04:31
Important news from the Federation of Big Long Now:

A test launch of the PCP-A49 rocket designed to transport the life support module and research lab module exploded on the launch pad yesterday afternoon. Investigators soon revealed that there were major cracks in the hull of the wreckage, suggesting that the metals that were used in the construction of the PCP-A49 rockets had some rather unusual impurities making the metal weak, and causing it to break apart after a large amount of stress was brought upon the rocket. We currently have further investigations pending, but have no plans to use any rockets of our own for the launch of our modules at the time. We are currently looking to purchase two reusable shuttles for the launch of the modules and for transports to and from the space hub. Photos are prefered, but specifications and prices are required. We'd also hope to obtain a safety record for the shuttles, but it is currently not required from us. We hope to be doing business with you soon.

Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
=
President Richard Evan
Federation of Big Long Now

If you cannot handle such an important component of the space hub, we cannot allow you to assemble it. If accidents like this continue in the future, someone else will be assigned the task.
Benderland
04-10-2003, 04:34
News reports are stating that all space based extranational projects are being postponed for the time being as the government has finally revealed that Lunar Yard 1, the oldest functioning shipyard/dockyard in lunar orbit, has been disabled by a terrorist attack, destroying over 10 ships of the line, including the CSS Vladius, known for it's history of battling pirates, and the CSS Doomgiver, a Lion class dreadnaught that was flagship of the Third Fleet.

Inside Lunar Yard 1, several projects were underway for the Martian colonies and for the International Space Hub. All work on the Hub project has been ceased and all sections completed are being shipped to the site.

http://www.lensflare.com/~doubt/render/project/spacedock3.jpg
A Commercial Quad-Dock

http://www.lensflare.com/~doubt/render/new/spacedock.jpg
Closeup on one of the quads
(IC, that is NOT a ringed planet, it is Earth and that moon is the Moon)

The government is planning on keeping the promisied funding on time but construction will not begin for another six months(OOC: Oh, three or four days, no more than that)

OOC: Sorry 56Kers about the slightly large pics...

Benderland condemns the actions of these terrorists, and we offer our services to help you recover your losses.
Crimmond
04-10-2003, 20:42
No need, besides... we aren't letting any nations ships into or out of the area at the moment.
Big Long Now
04-10-2003, 21:29
The destruction of our PCP-A49 rocket does not reflect that we cannot handle this project. If you had read our statement you may have noticed that the result of the accident was impurities in the metal. Although we still don't know how the impurities managed to be mixed into the metals, we are looking for safer alternatives to transport these components to the space hub. We're currently reviewing designs and estimating costs of the RS-170 reusable shuttle to transport components for construction to the space hub. The BLNSA is in it's beginnings, and accidents are expected to happen, but we will not send a manned craft into space or expensive components until extensive testing of the crafts are complete. The only reason the PCP-A49 exploded during launch was because our stress testing was not thorough enough to the stress it recieved during takeoff.

Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
Blademasters
05-10-2003, 02:06
Both docks are complete, any construction traffic can now be diverted to these docks.
Benderland
05-10-2003, 05:26
Excellent. Construction of the fusion core should be completed by the end of next year.
Crimmond
05-10-2003, 05:43
News reports now state that Lunar Yard 1 can be repaired and will be operation in 18 months. In related news, the construction fo the International Space Hub project has been restarted in another facility in Earth Orbit. The operations are several months behind, but they are recovering quickly.

In other news, it appears that former CCIRA member Baggera has joined the Arda Alliance and has begun preperations to help the Imperi...

OOC: The only things I have left to build are three more Quad-Docks and two sections of the ring. Estimated time with Lunar Yard 1 operational... less than two RL weeks.
Kanuckistan
05-10-2003, 09:27
The atmospheric recycler units are currently awaiting pickup at ~200 year old Kanuckistani orbital transfer facility we've refurbished and boosted into high orbit a decade or two ago to facilitate another project.

Involved parties can pick them up for on-site intigration into station and module infastructure on an as-needed basis.
Benderland
05-10-2003, 16:33
The atmospheric recycler units are currently awaiting pickup at ~200 year old Kanuckistani orbital transfer facility we've refurbished and boosted into high orbit a decade or two ago to facilitate another project.

Involved parties can pick them up for on-site intigration into station and module infastructure on an as-needed basis.

Thank you. Hermes Spacelines will be notified and will transfer them to the construction site.
Benderland
05-10-2003, 22:43
The fusion core is nearing completion, and the frame is coming along quite well.
Lunatic Retard Robots
05-10-2003, 23:25
LRR will contribute 50 engineers and 300 robotic constructor suits, as well as a lunar mining team and ore transporters. Could we attatch the terminal (http://www.treknology.org/ncx-spacestation.jpg) to your space hub?


http://screens.relicnews.com/concept/images/010.jpg

The basic design layout of an LRR ore barge.

Capacity: 150,000 tons of ore.

http://screens.relicnews.com/fanart/images/IgnusDei003.jpg

The andromeda class mining explorer vessel.

Capacity: 2 crew, 1 passenger, 9,000 tons of ore.
Benderland
06-10-2003, 00:48
We could mount it on the dock, but not on the station.
Big Long Now
06-10-2003, 21:21
The components for the life support module have been manufactured and are ready for transport. We are currently finishing the parts for the research lab and are working on the final preparations for the RS class shuttlecraft (RS = Reusable Shuttlecraft), and should be ready for departure from BLN in the next 24 hours. We will need to cool down our engines and refuel before the trip home. The shuttlecraft will be containing seven astronauts, two which will be on the return trip.

Our next RS will be outfitted with a nuclear reactor, eliminating the costs of refueling on trips.
Benderland
07-10-2003, 02:36
Glad to hear it. The fusion core is complete, and the frame is also nearing completion.
Benderland
07-10-2003, 21:04
*bump*
Benderland
08-10-2003, 20:50
Enough of the frame is complete so we can begin mounting essential modules.

I'd like a status report on any other parts of the project that are still under construction, please.
Benderland
09-10-2003, 20:49
*bump*
Benderland
10-10-2003, 01:14
Ehhh... hello? So we just up and dropped this project?
Big Long Now
18-10-2003, 08:48
We need more funds to complete this project but the legislature has refused to grant our request, therefore the Federation of Big Long Now is pulling out of this project and instead will begin researching on cargo transports for exporting goods to other nations/planets.

Kurt Westen
Director of the BLNSA
Lunatic Retard Robots
19-10-2003, 21:07
We could mount it on the dock, but not on the station.

Oh. That's fine by me.
Benderland
26-10-2003, 15:57
Since the nations expected to build more of the essential parts of the station have appeared to have bailed out of this project, Benderland has taken it over. The frame has been complete for quite some time, and we have completed construction of the medical and security modules. The transportation system is also complete, and life support is online. Our recreational module is expected to be completed by the end of the year. We are awaiting more modules from other nations.
Benderland
28-10-2003, 00:26
Or recreational module is in place, the station is now open to the public. More slots are still open if you want to build your own modules.