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Revolution in West Ukraine! (WARNING PICS) HAPPY?? :)

Russian Forces
29-09-2003, 01:21
OCC: West Ukraine has told me (Well wish to RP) that a communist revolution has started in West Ukraine which is supported by the communist party.

Russian Forces wishes to announce that the Ukraine is in dispute between its own people. The Communists are fighting the government. However it is claimed that they are using Russian guns that were left behind by Russian Forces. The group is indentified as the Komunistychna Partiya Ukrainy.

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29-09-2003, 01:24
("pic warning now happy", LMAO!)
We support RF in this matter.
WestUkraine
29-09-2003, 01:27
The West Ukraine interim government confirms that confrontation with communist supporters are taking place in addition to our efforts to boot Free Rumania off Ukrainian territory.
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 01:30
At the moment, the Ruschic government supports the West Ukrainian government in this matter. However, the Rushic are not willing to openly give militaristic support unless they are asked, and even then, not much can be done.

Good luck to the WU government.
Russian Forces
29-09-2003, 06:27
We also believe unfortunatly that these revolutionaries were trained by us during the war. They are all over the place.
29-09-2003, 06:29
The Republic of Al Anbar hereby declares its support for our comrades fighting against the oppressive Russians. Al Anbar will support the revolutionaries by anyway possible - weapons, money, supplies.
29-09-2003, 06:32
The Republic of Al Anbar hereby declares its support for our comrades fighting against the oppressive Russians. Al Anbar will support the revolutionaries by anyway possible - weapons, money, supplies.

I think the revolutionaries are pro russian.
Russian Forces
29-09-2003, 06:45
they are pro russian....
WestUkraine
29-09-2003, 06:47
No matter. People have approved the coalition government despite mobs threatening voters on both sides.
President Kolishkevov has taken power. Pledging increased relations with Russian Forces, death to Free Rumania if it continues to occupy Ukrainian territory, and to reconciliate the Ukrainian people after two very bitter wars.

His first official act was to open dialoge with communist rebels.
WestUkraine
29-09-2003, 06:48
The move to strengthen ties with RF is designed to appease the communist revolutionaries and to bring them into the coalition government.
Russian Forces
29-09-2003, 10:33
These revolutionaries want one thing.... communism. Relations will not stop them from going on a rampage. However for the loss of many of our troops who died in vain we can not accept this peaceful agreement.
29-09-2003, 12:10
Revolutionary Training Compound (remote location in Sandlewood)
People’s Commander Max Forrester reviews reports about communist revolutionaries in West Ukraine, the Komunistychna Partiya Ukrainy. The General wants full, unconditional support provided, and he wanted it there yesterday. It a good thing we have troops in Communist Poland; this will make the transfer of goods easier,thought Max.

Communist Poland – WestUkraine Border
Advisors and weapons start being sneaked acrossed the border by Sandlewood troops stationed in Communist Poland on a peacekeeping mission into WestUkraine to support the revolutionaries.
Bereza
29-09-2003, 13:16
The Most Serene Republic of Berëza, on behalf of itself and TAOBB, requests to send political and military observers to the region, and more importantly, that they not be targeted by either side of the conflict, or any intervening party. They will not support or oppose either side. We await a response.
29-09-2003, 16:23
I can give an accord that I think both sides can live with.
29-09-2003, 16:57
We have best hopes for the Ukrainian rebels.
29-09-2003, 17:07
We give our support for Russian Forces.
29-09-2003, 18:29
The Republic of Jace once again pledges it's support to Russian Forces, and unless RF has any objections, will be sending a small force of "Observers" if you wish to call them that, to the region, if these people are attacked by any faction, it will be considered an act of war, and it will be followed up.

Jace has also suggested the placement of an embassy within Russian Forces.
Russian Forces
30-09-2003, 04:06
embassy will be accepted.

Heavy fighting continues.
30-09-2003, 04:31
West Moon sends support to fellow communists.
Russian Forces
30-09-2003, 10:08
We are now sending our troops through the border to aid our Comrades.

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The Imperial Navy
30-09-2003, 10:44
LOCATION: Border between Western Ukraine & Russian Forces.

A recon group gathers up.

"Russian troops, moving to help the revolutionaries..."

"Confirmed. Remember the Russians are our friends. Watch, but DO NOT engage anyone. if you are discovered, call for transport."

"Yes sir, beginning radio scilence. King out."

The Recon unit got into a civilian truck, and followed the force at a distance...

OOC: No one knows about this except the Imperial Military-This is not an act of aggression, we're just watching.
30-09-2003, 11:25
Hearja supports fellow comrades and wishes them best of luck.
Zvarinograd
30-09-2003, 12:38
NEWS FLASH

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd are mobilizing troops. The 3rd Paratrooper Division, consisting of 31,000 troops, has been called to comply for standby to back up the Russian Forces whenever the battle begins. 10,000 Zvarinograd medical personnel are being transported through EA-80 transport planes behind friendly lines, along with medical supplies, food and fresh water. 30 EA-160C strike fighters are making thier way towards Russian Forces' airfields to await commands from their comrades. The only comment the Premier gave us is that Zvarinograd, no matter how small a nation, is capable of supporting the cause of communism.
The Imperial Navy
30-09-2003, 12:42
While the recon group moved below, TIE Phantoms were running recon.

(Note that TIE Phantom's are my equivilent of Stealth planes-except these have a cloaking device...)

"Anything?"

"Nothing yet but... wait! there they are!"

A line of Russian tanks and vehichles came down the dust path.

"Confirmed sighting. they are moving in."

"Rodger Recon 1. Return to base."
WestUkraine
30-09-2003, 16:23
WestUkraine has purged all communists from all political offices in response to the communist attack.
They and their families are now being executed.
The 14th 15th and 7th infantries are being dispatched to destroy or repel the Russian invasion force.
30-09-2003, 16:44
Sandlewood forces stationed in Communist Poland, now that the country has been stabilized, have crossed the border in West Ukraine to support the revolutionaries. One motorized and two infantry divisions move to secure key installations (radio, government buildings, rail and roads) near the border to allow for the supplies and troops that have been secretly built up in Communist Poland during the reconstruction.
For the Revolution! For the People’s Dictatorship of the Proletariat!
30-09-2003, 17:44
A military cargo truck drives up to a West Ukraine Deathcamp somewhere in the south easten quadrant...

The guards move up to inspect the vehicles contence, and finding nothing amiss, the vehicle is admitted into the compound.

Meanwhile, a group of shadowy figures moves along the outer perimiter, pausing to avoid a patrol, then move up to the fence/wall whatever (They get in anyway).

Back at the truck, more gaurds begin moving over to help unload, when suddenly, one of the truck gaurds pulls out his rifle and guns down the gaurds.

Roughly around the same time, a patrol fails to report in near the perimiter...

More guards race over to kill the rogue truck guard, however the truck driver swins open his door and rolls to ground, opening fire also as rogue gaurds begin pouring off the truck and finding cover.

Roughly about the same time the barrack explodes, and twice as many unidentified milita swarm across the compound.

Small pockets of milita begin to take cover and hold off the guards as the remaining milita bolt into the prison blocks and begin opening cells like mad.

The milita then begin to set up a perimiter between the prison cells and the vehicle lot, as prisoners are escorted by the milita to the vehicle lot and various transport vehicles are hijacked, only then to be driven out of the compound, headed towards the Russian Forces boarder.

In all 6 milita and 58 prisoners where killed.

There are also reports of resistance cells forming, communist supports are simply...dissapparing.
30-09-2003, 22:50
We aren't getting involved in this one.
Though we condemn the illegal invasion.
Russian Forces
01-10-2003, 00:40
This is no invasion this is a way to save people from deaths. The communists must be saved!
01-10-2003, 00:51
Sandlewood agreed with Russian Forces, the communists must be saved for imperialistic capitalism that forced on West Ukraine.
Esamopia
01-10-2003, 04:36
OOC: Can West Ukraine and RF please shut up for a while! It took forever to clear the last conflict... and now this?!!

IC: Esamopia declares both parties in violation of the armistice agreement, specifically RF's blatant violation of its promise to abide by the referendum results, by sending troops into RF. It does not matter what "justification" they have, they are in complete violation.

West Ukraine is also in violation by purging communists from office. Although we can understand that this may have been necessary to defend the legitimately elected government, the fact that these former communist officials AND their families have been EXECUTED, meaning that the intention of West Ukraine is not to safely defend itself from communists in office (which it could have done by simply removing them from office and arresting them for the duration,) but instead it chose the extreme step of butchering the officials. This is in direct violation of the agreement, WU action is in violation of the referendum results!

We do not know what action to take at this time... we believe that RF and WU wish to perpetually fight each other, and therefore the cabinet is considering endorcing an I.G.N.O.R.E. cannon launch... the reasons for this are numerous, but namely that it would be IMPOSSIBLE, considering the latest conflict occured so recently I doubt that either population would have even the basic energy of fighting a conflict... if they did they would probably direct their actions against their retarded governments!

If other nations support an IGNORE resolution, then we will enact it!
01-10-2003, 07:18
The Republic of Jace has come to debate about weither it is time to end this petty conflict once and for all...total military occupation of West Ukraine.

Many nations we see this as oppressing free will in West Ukraine, but then again, what free will is in West Ukraine now?.

Communisam is being oppressed in the highest nature, all those who support it being exacuted by the goverment, including innocent women and children.

There also exists the slight possibility a civil war could break out in West Ukraine, which based on the events we have just seen, could lead the death of millions of innocent civilians.

A swift, military occupation of West Ukraine would end this, bringing complete and total order the country, an "Iron Curtain" would be built between captialist and communist West Ukraine if need be.

As it stands 2 battlefleets are being amassed at Jace if it is decided to go ahead with an occupation, and frankly Dictator Jace does not seem highly open on this dicussion, as if the matter was open for debate, the argueing and the squbbling of other nations could allow for the death toll to rise in West Ukraine.

Sometimes, the swift acting Iron Fist of Dictatorship is the best thing.
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 09:13
West Ukraine has halted all executions. We are now now deporting all communist terror groups instead.
We are now engaging in guerilla tactics against the communist invaders.
Russian Forces
01-10-2003, 09:23
my troops won't assualt a single West Ukrainian unless fired upon. We also want to say this.... ESAMOPIA! Get our nose out of our frickin business! Your forms of diplomacy is useless.

OOC: Also you can not ignore someone for RPing a violation.... If you ignore us its more a good ridance for RF and WU :)
Zvarinograd
01-10-2003, 10:47
OOC:

Let it be that everyone to his own fun in roleplaying, as long as it doesn't go out of reason. If they want to fight, let them. How much is it going to affect you? None.
Bonstock
01-10-2003, 11:46
5,000 Bonstocknian Leapord IIs are now in Odessa, awaiting transfer home. But they have a new assignment. The secret army from Free Rumania is now driving to Kiev to put down the rebellion.

ooc: cant play much... sorry for short posts
The Imperial Navy
01-10-2003, 12:42
The Recon group continued o follow at a distance...

"This worries me... What if they see us?"

"They won't... if they do, it may result in war."

"Look, they're stopping."

"Must be for supples. quick, in those trees there and turn the engine off!"
Esamopia
01-10-2003, 21:35
Hmm... well we don't care! All RF and WU citizens have been placed in protective custody, and will be deported if their nations claim them or executed if they are not claimed in 24 hours.

The words: "Russian Forces, West Ukraine" are now forbidden in any area under Esamopian jurisdiction... violating this act will lead to a mandatory 12-hour lecture by Esamopian government on the stupidity of those two nations.

Esamopia has also closed all embassies/missions/diplomatic contact with RF and WU, for the duration of this conflict or perhaps permanently, and has closed all ties with such nations or any that directly support their recent operations.

Good riddance indeed!

Our press minister has also been ordered to not write in a WU or RF sponsored thread, after the completion of this sentence.
01-10-2003, 21:36
Execute Russians and well flay you.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President Vladimir Oladksy
Member of the GPA
Member of the NCA

”Just execute them all.”
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01-10-2003, 21:40
Just ignore him, all he is doing is trying to stir up trouble and destroy the thread.
01-10-2003, 21:51
In addition, to aid our Russian Allies, we will redeploy a tank army to Ukraine in case war starts.
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:19
Due to fact that our forces are still too weak after the most recent conflicts.
We are forced to seek a peace accord with the communist insurgents.
Meantime, all who love democracy will be given sufficient time to leave West Ukraine. On this, the current government will insist otherwise our offer is invalid.
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:21
(OOC) Don't have much for RP lately, and it would be unrealistic for WU and RF to go at it seriously after a war between them had just ended.
01-10-2003, 23:23
General Umetrovsky sits impatiently on a hill overlooking the Dniepr River, waiting for orders from the Bisonic Kremlin to end the existence of West Ukraine as a sovereign state...
01-10-2003, 23:29
Any intrustion of Romanian territory will be dealt with swiftly...
01-10-2003, 23:30
Any intrustion of Romanian territory will be dealt with swiftly...
OOC:
What do you control?
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:32
Any intrustion of Romanian territory will be dealt with swiftly...

However this turns out. You are illegally occupying Ukrainian territory. YOu will give it back or you will face the consequences.
In accordance with the recent treaty, all foreign powers are required to leave Ukrainian territory.
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:33
Any intrustion of Romanian territory will be dealt with swiftly...
OOC:
What do you control?

He is illegally occupying the westernmost part of my country.
01-10-2003, 23:34
You mean everything west of the Dniestr? Good job FR. An organized attack can drive him from the Dniepr to the Dniestr in a month.
01-10-2003, 23:36
I'm not leaving anything, your pathetic armed forces were beaten down by RF and if they have the stupidity to launch an attack against me...well...It would be like attacking tanks with horses. I have signed no treaty.


DT: I control Moldova, and the part of Ukraine east of the Dneister right on the border with Romania and Moldova. If he attacks me you can end his status as a nation.
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:40
RF and DT check your messages.
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:41
I'm not leaving anything, your pathetic armed forces were beaten down by RF and if they have the stupidity to launch an attack against me...well...It would be like attacking tanks with horses. I have signed no treaty.


DT: I control Moldova, and the part of Ukraine east of the Dneister right on the border with Romania and Moldova. If he attacks me you can end his status as a nation.

I advise you to reconsider as the political reality has just changed.
Xerlox
01-10-2003, 23:43
I'm not leaving anything, your pathetic armed forces were beaten down by RF and if they have the stupidity to launch an attack against me...well...It would be like attacking tanks with horses. I have signed no treaty.


DT: I control Moldova, and the part of Ukraine east of the Dneister right on the border with Romania and Moldova. If he attacks me you can end his status as a nation.

I advise you to reconsider as the political reality has just changed.
I advise YOU to reconsider.
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:46
The West Ukrainian is now rolling out the welcome mat to troops arriving from Russian Forces.
We hereby declare ourselves in alliance with the nation of Russian Forces.
Negotiations on official reunification with RF have begun it is highly advised that all foriegn nations take this opportunity to leave our territory immediately. That includes the land west of the Dnieper.
01-10-2003, 23:48
That includes the land west of the Dnieper.
If you can't even get the geographic names right why should FR listen to you?

He's west of the DNEISTR
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:50
That includes the land west of the Dnieper.
If you can't even get the geographic names right why should FR listen to you?

He's west of the DNEISTR

OOC: wait what the heck am I doing. Why am I listinening to you for?
Your those fools who have no idea what they are talking about.


IC: Never mind. FR is not occupying the area west of the Dnieper.
His claims are ignored.
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:51
the other thing is you guys are the warmongering group that's always going around causing problems and starting wars with everyone.
Your posts here are ignored.
01-10-2003, 23:52
Ok dummy, look on the map:

http://go.hrw.com/atlas/norm_map/ukraine.gif
Look SOUTHWEST of Odessa, and that's the dniester, not the dniepr.

You can't just ignore him because you feel like it :roll:
WestUkraine
01-10-2003, 23:55
Ok dummy, look on the map:

http://go.hrw.com/atlas/norm_map/ukraine.gif
Look SOUTHWEST of Odessa, and that's the dniester, not the dniepr.

You can't just ignore him because you feel like it :roll:

I'm not ignoring him because I feel like it.
I'm ignoring you. Come back when you know a thing or two.
01-10-2003, 23:56
Maybe it's you who should come back when you know a thing or two, you can't even get the names of places in your own country right.

edit: Actually you said you ignored my claims for no reason other than "convienence"
01-10-2003, 23:59
Oh yeah, all the bridges along the Dniester have been blown up by my engineers
WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 00:02
Maybe it's you who should come back when you know a thing or two, you can't even get the names of places in your own country right.

edit: Actually you said you ignored my claims for no reason other than "convienence"

NO. I am not ignoring you. I am only ignoring those two (xerlox and East Germany cause I know they have a rep for going around and ruining other people's rp with their childish behavior.)
And it is not your business what I call the features in my nation.
That is no excuse for illegal occupation.
The treaty stipulated everyone had to leave Ukrainian territory. Everyone did, except you.
And you openly said you refused the treaty which means you have hostile designs on West Ukraine. For that reason, I just TG'd RF with an offer to surrender soverignty in return for military protection since my forces are too weak at the moment.
Hence, WU is now welcoming RF with open arms.
Congrats buddy, you now occupying RF territory.
02-10-2003, 00:04
Like I said, if I don't sign a treaty there's no reason I have to comply with it.

Ignore Xerlox, I ignore you. RF has the same rep as Xerlox so don't bitch and moan about it. So you are RF's bitch now? Good for you!
Here ya go!
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WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 00:06
Ignore Xerlox, I ignore you. RF has the same rep as Xerlox so don't bitch and moan about it. So you are RF's bitch now? Good for you!
Here ya go!
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Gee. A little touch now aren't we.
I am so sorry if I hurt your wee little feelings. OR those of your so called invasion force.
Malatose
02-10-2003, 00:06
Soviet Malatose has placed all 200,000 troops,300 T-90 Tanks on high alert within Hungary.
02-10-2003, 00:07
Ignore Xerlox, I ignore you. RF has the same rep as Xerlox so don't bitch and moan about it. So you are RF's bitch now? Good for you!
Here ya go!
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Gee. A little touch now aren't we.
I am so sorry if I hurt your wee little feelings. OR those of your so called invasion force.
Am I in invasion force? Nope. Get your facts straight, son.
WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 00:07
Soviet Malatose has placed all 200,000 troops,300 T-90 Tanks on high alert within Hungary.
West Ukraine will officially welcome any Malatose troops entering Ukrainian territory as fellow commies.
02-10-2003, 00:08
Soviet Malatose has placed all 200,000 troops,300 T-90 Tanks on high alert within Hungary.
Osutoria-Hungary controls Hungary, as he stated before...and he is anti-RF.
WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 00:08
Ignore Xerlox, I ignore you. RF has the same rep as Xerlox so don't bitch and moan about it. So you are RF's bitch now? Good for you!
Here ya go!
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Gee. A little touch now aren't we.
I am so sorry if I hurt your wee little feelings. OR those of your so called invasion force.
Am I in invasion force? Nope. Get your facts straight, son.
Well, you want to ally with them. You might as well be one of them.
WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 00:09
Soviet Malatose has placed all 200,000 troops,300 T-90 Tanks on high alert within Hungary.
Osutoria-Hungary controls Hungary, as he stated before...and he is anti-RF.
He tged me that he's ignoring RF. Hence my surrender to RF.
02-10-2003, 00:09
Well, you want to ally with them. You might as well be one of them.
Xerlox hates communists, that's not my problem, it's yours. And EG is an Ally of Russian Forces.
Malatose
02-10-2003, 00:09
Soviet Malatose has placed all 200,000 troops,300 T-90 Tanks on high alert within Hungary.
Osutoria-Hungary controls Hungary, as he stated before...and he is anti-RF.

Actually I made an agreement with him about an airforce base and a Army base.
02-10-2003, 00:11
Soviet Malatose has placed all 200,000 troops,300 T-90 Tanks on high alert within Hungary.
Osutoria-Hungary controls Hungary, as he stated before...and he is anti-RF.

Actually I made an agreement with him about an airforce base and a Army base.
Ok then, 250,000 troops plus 2,000 TR-2000A4's and 3,000 Badger MICV's plus all other crap which I am too lazy to list is bieng moved to the border with hungary.
Xerlox
02-10-2003, 00:14
Ignoring me again WU? Why am I not surprised you are taking the easy way out again?
02-10-2003, 00:35
We are now neutral.
Bonstock
02-10-2003, 00:38
Bonstocknian forces are now confused. The tanks, still waiting for sealift home, but now 30 miles north of Odessa, halt. High Command waits, wondering what to do.
Russian Forces
02-10-2003, 01:07
Thats right! If you don;t get out of West Ukraine im going to make you leave. So Free Rumania please leave Russian territory in a orderly fashion.

West Ukraine is now a State of Soviet Russia which will have freedoms like Hong Kong.
02-10-2003, 02:22
Blow me, until your boy-toy WU un-ignores Xerlox and EG I'm ignoring you too.
02-10-2003, 02:31
Oh yeah;

I haven't fought a major war in 30 NS years.

My equipment is better

My troops are better trained

My tanks are 5x as good as anything you have

My airforce is great

navy=ownage
Malatose
02-10-2003, 02:39
Oh yeah;

I haven't fought a major war in 30 NS years.

My equipment is better

My troops are better trained

My tanks are 5x as good as anything you have

My airforce is great

navy=ownage

We'll see about that in due time :twisted:
02-10-2003, 02:45
We would like to help WU flush out FR force's out of WU if it is alright with WU. We have Ah-6 Little birds and a small convoy/task team that can easly repair any briges within a day. WU will you let us help you?
WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 02:49
We would like to help WU flush out FR force's out of WU if it is alright with WU. We have Ah-6 Little birds and a small convoy/task team that can easly repair any briges within a day. WU will you let us help you?
All offers to boot foreign invaders from WU must now go through Moscow headquarters as they are now incharge of foreign policy for WU.
02-10-2003, 02:50
The Batavian Soviet Socialist Republics stands by to assist in any way we can.

Soviet President Malcom

Batavian Soviet Socialist Republics
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
02-10-2003, 03:26
We will defend Romanian claims in the Ukraine.

It seems to us that they have conquered what was former ADK territory and they are a formrer ADK country, also. Although they are rebels, we think that we can grow closer together.

OOC: I'll use 2020 tech, If needed :P. ADK-RF episode 7!

EDIT: OOC: I thought EG, FR, and Xerlox were all the same person o.o...
02-10-2003, 03:28
To Russian Forces and West Ukraine:
The Sandlewood forces stationed Communist Poland are at your disposal and under your command, see that their “peacekeeping” mission there is now finished. Available forces: 1 Motorized Division 2 Infantry Divisions 1 Special Operations Regiment
WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 05:17
We will defend Romanian claims in the Ukraine.

It seems to us that they have conquered what was former ADK territory and they are a formrer ADK country, also. Although they are rebels, we think that we can grow closer together.

OOC: I'll use 2020 tech, If needed :P. ADK-RF episode 7!

EDIT: OOC: I thought EG, FR, and Xerlox were all the same person o.o...
Ukraine was never part of ADK. We do not accept your attempt at land grabing.
02-10-2003, 05:34
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Russian Forces
02-10-2003, 06:51
OOC: OMG Free Rumania get the hell out since you are the invader and im deeply touched by you comparing me to Xerloc. ADK please don't get involved..... you are always bugging me with Ukraine.

Russian Forces is sending its troops into the Rumanian Ukrainian lines and will kill anyone who decides to occupy the Ukraine.
02-10-2003, 09:07
OOC: This isn't an RP thread anymore...it's an "I'm b3tt3r then u!" thread, no one can accept defeat, so we make up bullshit to declear victory...

Well guess what, you now havce me to contend with in this debate, and before you accuse me of being bias...that's not possible...I'm bias against everyone.

Now from my stance, your all trying to ruin RF and WUs thread, this issue was primarily between them, what they did was there buisness, not yours, so everyone who thinks they have a say in what RF and WU can and can't do so long as they both agree on it can get lost now.

Next, that whole not being able to spell the name thing was complete bullshit too, and was probably one of the lamer excuses I've seen, it means little to nothing to the RP in this thread, and if it does, I think you as people are capable of making a polite correction, or is that beyond you children?, using it as an excuse to start a flame war is condemable.

Thirdly, I'm going to nail you all for abuse of ignoring, it was originally created to help move along RP threads where someone was deliberately causing trouble, sadly you've all taken it and twisted it into something for your own personal benifit.

If you all have land claims or other disputes, I want to see proof, I don't personally accept people who come out of the blue and demand rights to something without an explaination why.

ADK, if you are the decent person you always make out to be, demostrate it by leaving this thread for now until things are more peaceful...

IC:

With the situation in Europe heating up, Jace has dispatched 2 Battlefleets to the Mediterainian, there purpose, if diplomacy breaks down, to being a swift end to any conflict started over the RF/WU affair (And no one need complain about logistics, I still hold Spain, Switzerland and parts of Greece from the RF-ADK wars).

Jace has also contacted the WU goverment regarding the deportment of all capitalists, primarily Jace is concerned with the well being of these people, and will pursue all possible options to ensure there safety and that they find new homes.
Although Jace considered it an alternative, it can see that there is no place in the new communist WU for these people, and they are best moved for there own safety.
Russian Forces
02-10-2003, 11:31
Free Rumania should only just pull out of the Ukraine. Then this RP is over and done with.
02-10-2003, 12:35
ADK is here?


Just toss some nuke tipped AS-19 Koala stealth cruise missiles at him and be done with it!
Zvarinograd
02-10-2003, 12:59
OOC:

He can't, this is NS. If one guy fires a nuclear weapon, everyone involved as well as a multitude of allies and UN enforcers, except small nations will toss nuclear weapons.
02-10-2003, 19:46
OOC:

He can't, this is NS. If one guy fires a nuclear weapon, everyone involved as well as a multitude of allies and UN enforcers, except small nations will toss nuclear weapons.
UN doesnt exist in RPing.

Knock out ADK and theres no one to avenge him. Simple.
Xerlox
02-10-2003, 19:47
im deeply touched by you comparing me to Xerloc.
I suppose you should be...I'm bigger, meaner, richer, and Oh yeah, I'm right next door to Romania in Yugoslavia(Also in Poland too).

Knock out ADK and theres no one to avenge him. Simple.
Avenge ADK or avenge FR?
02-10-2003, 19:49
im deeply touched by you comparing me to Xerloc.
I suppose you should be...I'm bigger, meaner, richer, and Oh yeah, I'm right next door to Romania in Yugoslavia(Also in Poland too).

Knock out ADK and theres no one to avenge him. Simple.
Avenge ADK or avenge FR?
Avenge ADK.

If he was nuked, no one would care except Ma-tek possibley, but RF ignored Ma-tek.
Xerlox
02-10-2003, 19:50
Forumwalker would care, along with Ell.

And I'm sure he'd have 500 million mujahadeen ready lol
02-10-2003, 19:52
Forumwalker would care, along with Ell.

And I'm sure he'd have 500 million mujahadeen ready lol
They would be gassed.



FW isnt active anymore, Ell... whats he gonna do about it? Get himself nuked as well by nuking RF?
Xerlox
02-10-2003, 19:53
Anyway troop movements:
1,000,000 troops are currently bieng moved to Romania with needed equipment(5,000 or so tanks, 8,000 ICV's plus artillery and etc.). 3,000,000 are currently bieng readied in Poland, and will invade the Ukraine if FR is attacked. 2 Xerloxian Battlefleets are moving into the Baltic, and 4 are taking positions near Japan.
WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 19:53
im deeply touched by you comparing me to Xerloc.
I suppose you should be...I'm bigger, meaner, richer, and Oh yeah, I'm right next door to Romania in Yugoslavia(Also in Poland too).

Knock out ADK and theres no one to avenge him. Simple.
Avenge ADK or avenge FR?
Last I heard, you got booted out of Poland.
Communistpoland
02-10-2003, 19:59
It is the official policy of the new government of the People's Republic of Communist Poland not to be involved in any way in other people's wars.
Therefore, as Xerlox has stated his intention to use our territory as a spring board to launch a conquest of WU. We admonish him of the fool hardyness of this move as every nation that has tried to do so whether communist or capitalist has always been foiled.
Further we will not allow our land to be used in any such conflict. Hence, due to statements by Xerlox's government and in accordance with our rights as a soverign nation in the international community, we have kicked Xerlox's ambassador and have ordered all Xerloxian troops to leave Communist Poland territory immediately.
This action is taken with the blessing of the main occupying power, Whittier and their closest allies.
Xerlox has 48 hours to leave Polish territory.
Xerlox
02-10-2003, 20:01
Last I heard, you got booted out of Poland.
Heard wrong bub. No-one opposed my Invasion, even though Poland is mostly German territory(as it should be, or split between Russians and Germans) I have bases there.
02-10-2003, 20:01
This is gonna end up as an ignore fest.
02-10-2003, 20:02
This is gonna end up as an ignore fest.

Again.....
02-10-2003, 20:07
I have 2 PEACEFUL means of solving this;

Solution 1
RF pays me compensation of 20 billion USD for the cost of removing all my forces, any ukrainians wishing to flee the soviets will be given asylum in Romania.

Solution 2
I will pay RF 100 billion USD to keep the territory, and Romania will not bother RF directly ever again.
02-10-2003, 21:06
This is gonna end up as an ignore fest.

Again.....
Yeah, any RP which features Xerlox, RF, WU, and ADK in the same war is doomed from the beginning...
WestUkraine
02-10-2003, 23:05
West Ukraine, while now part of RF, is a democratic state. Hence there are no refugees fleeing from Communism in West Ukraine.
We believe FR puts out false propaganda on the government of WU to direct his own people's attentions away from their own internal domestic problems.
WestUkraine
03-10-2003, 00:09
Last I heard, you got booted out of Poland.
Heard wrong bub. No-one opposed my Invasion, even though Poland is mostly German territory(as it should be, or split between Russians and Germans) I have bases there.

No. Your invasion was ignored by most people.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
03-10-2003, 00:40
We have not dispatched any troops, we are supporting Romanian claims. If the Romanaians need us to send troops, we will.

Any use of nuclear weapons against us will result in an immediate and massive nuclear response.
03-10-2003, 01:05
Anyone who nukes ADK gets $500 bil.


PS- your massive barrage of nukes will be shot down by SDI and Im linked to Skynet as well.
Russian Forces
03-10-2003, 02:25
solution 3: I'll use military force to liberate the Ukrainians from Free Rumanian troops.

50 billion is too much. Decrease the price for such a little amount of land.
Osutoria-Hangarii
03-10-2003, 02:54
Soviet Malatose has placed all 200,000 troops,300 T-90 Tanks on high alert within Hungary.

I never allowed any tanks. Also, let me publicly state that no sorties into West Ukraine will be allowed from my airbases.
03-10-2003, 02:55
Rusian force's my we aid you in getting romiana force out of WestUkraine?
We have a carrier in the north sea's above russia and WestUkraine that has speacil force's standing by with a convoy of trucks and 2 tanks. Also we can fly in speacil force's right now on Ah-6 little birds and Uh-1s.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
03-10-2003, 03:08
Listen, DT, AMF ignored me rendering Skynet useless against me.

I have SDI too. Satellites... ground based... air based... ship based.

Don't screw around with me.
WestUkraine
03-10-2003, 04:39
This is gonna end up as an ignore fest.

I must agree with you.

OOC: I'm getting sick of this. Reason why I rped WU unification with RF.
These guys want to wine about people getting names wrong and then going around condemning a democratic nation by calling it communist.
Certain Rpers I don't trust and I think you know who I am talking about.
Also, RF, you might want to start a new thread as this one is somewhat odd given that the revos got their unification they were fighting for.
It's turning into something else cause some people can't leave other people's RP's alone.
From now on all my threads will be by invite only.
WestUkraine
03-10-2003, 04:40
Listen, DT, AMF ignored me rendering Skynet useless against me.

I have SDI too. Satellites... ground based... air based... ship based.

Don't screw around with me.
AMF was bigger than you. There is no way you can overcome his skynet.
03-10-2003, 05:13
This is gonna end up as an ignore fest.

I must agree with you.

OOC: I'm getting sick of this. Reason why I rped WU unification with RF.
These guys want to wine about people getting names wrong and then going around condemning a democratic nation by calling it communist.
Certain Rpers I don't trust and I think you know who I am talking about.
Also, RF, you might want to start a new thread as this one is somewhat odd given that the revos got their unification they were fighting for.
It's turning into something else cause some people can't leave other people's RP's alone.
From now on all my threads will be by invite only.

I suggest you add a long and detailed list of rules and restrictions too...
WestUkraine
03-10-2003, 05:28
This is gonna end up as an ignore fest.

I must agree with you.

OOC: I'm getting sick of this. Reason why I rped WU unification with RF.
These guys want to wine about people getting names wrong and then going around condemning a democratic nation by calling it communist.
Certain Rpers I don't trust and I think you know who I am talking about.
Also, RF, you might want to start a new thread as this one is somewhat odd given that the revos got their unification they were fighting for.
It's turning into something else cause some people can't leave other people's RP's alone.
From now on all my threads will be by invite only.

I suggest you add a long and detailed list of rules and restrictions too...

yeah. that too.
Russian Forces
03-10-2003, 12:52
;)

Agreed. Leave us alone and bother someone else.
03-10-2003, 19:50
50 billion is too much. Decrease the price for such a little amount of land.
Umm...I said 20 billion. And as far as I'm concerned the whole block of WU and his puppets don't exist, and RF has the Ukraine. Thanks for clearing that up OH, now that Malatose is a blatent liar I have a reason to ignore him.

RF: Problems don't just go away because you get in a hissy fit, I've had this part of the Ukraine for a while now and I have a right to be in here.
03-10-2003, 20:15
RF you're one to talk, why don't you leave alone the followers of Allah inside Chechnya?
03-10-2003, 21:55
This is a 4th solution:

You two stop bieng such a bunch of stubborn imperialists and let the disputed territory be INDEPENDENT!

(and if this is agreed to NO ONE should get to make a puppet of the region, and if anyone does it should be ignored)
New bisons
03-10-2003, 21:58
There is this final solution: He smashes into West Ukraine, gets rid of your troops the hard way, ignores your block of puppets, and simply overwhelms FR.
03-10-2003, 22:03
I'm sure FR is real scared of his T-72's and Mi-24's. And he is already in West Ukraine
New bisons
03-10-2003, 22:04
I'm sure FR is real scared of his T-72's and Mi-24'sBlack Eagles and T-90's, Mi-28's.


And oh yeah he simply has 10 times more than you.

Ill defend the Far East.
03-10-2003, 22:09
10x as much is a cakewalk. Who are you defended the far east from, anyway?
New bisons
03-10-2003, 22:11
10x as much is a cakewalk. Who are you defended the far east from, anyway?The island-continent I share with Belpem and Ardor which is just East of japan (NS geography of course).
Forumwalker
04-10-2003, 05:38
Forumwalker would care, along with Ell.

And I'm sure he'd have 500 million mujahadeen ready lol
They would be gassed.



FW isnt active anymore, Ell... whats he gonna do about it? Get himself nuked as well by nuking RF?

Oh? I still hang around sometimes, and if someone did try gassing me, they'd effectively be saying goodbye to their country.
WestUkraine
04-10-2003, 06:17
This is a 4th solution:

You two stop bieng such a bunch of stubborn imperialists and let the disputed territory be INDEPENDENT!

(and if this is agreed to NO ONE should get to make a puppet of the region, and if anyone does it should be ignored)

Fact: West Ukraine has never been imperialist. West Ukraine never invaded anyone.
However, Commie Poland, Russian Forces, and Free Rumania all three launched illegal invasions of West Ukraine with the intent of splitting my country up between their three countries.
04-10-2003, 06:18
I'm sure FR is real scared of his T-72's and Mi-24's. And he is already in West Ukraine

If FR doesn't fear RF, then he will fear me...RF might still be running T-72s and all that crap, but my army is a bit more sophisticated then that...
Russian Forces
04-10-2003, 14:24
20 billion is acceptable. Now remove your forces from all parts of the Ukraine.

Wires cash

T-72's are like our light tanks you can say now. Our primary tanks are T-80's and T-90's while the elite are black eagles. Our numbers are to be feared, especially our tanks.

http://www.ciar.org/~ttk/mbt/t90s-01.great-picture.jpg

Wouldn't you fear this smashing through your lines?
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
04-10-2003, 14:37
...

That's not frightening. Especially when you have ATGW's pointed at them.
Russian Forces
04-10-2003, 14:48
What happens if you're cornered? If you are surrounded by steel? Tanks have proven many times to be deadly in modern war.
04-10-2003, 14:49
Ok after receiving the cash Romanian troops begin withdrawing, along with destroying all Romanian built military facilities. Reminiscent of Saigon '75, people trying to flee the communists are cramming into choppers.


RF: Not really, I'm sure the TDR-3000A1's and TR-2000A4's could handle it, and once you get into urban fighting I have a seperate vehicle.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
04-10-2003, 14:53
What happens if you're cornered? If you are surrounded by steel? Tanks have proven many times to be deadly in modern war.

What happens if every third, fifth, and seventh tank in a group of eight is destroyed? That's almost 50% casualties. Besides, FR has some pretty nice ATGW's. He could pwn you himself, he doesn't need me to back him up.
Russian Forces
04-10-2003, 14:55
OCC:Tanks are not useful in urban combat alone. the Russians have learnt that in chechnya. They can become deadly in Urban warfare when clearing out buildings or shell shocking everyone in one and make it easy for infantry to take them out. Also take note.... People are researching better ways to destroy tanks but as that happens people research better armour and strength. A m1Abram or even a T-90 can cop a artillary shell on top of it and the crew inside won't feel a thing. I saw it happen myself.

ICC: We are glad that our Rumanian comrades made the right choice.
04-10-2003, 14:56
What happens if you're cornered? If you are surrounded by steel? Tanks have proven many times to be deadly in modern war.

What happens if every third, fifth, and seventh tank in a group of eight is destroyed? That's almost 50% casualties. Besides, FR has some pretty nice ATGW's. He could pwn you himself, he doesn't need me to back him up.
FYI: My tanks usually don't use ATGMs against tanks because of the countermeasures systems that can be deployed, we rely mostly on our tank's big guns(135mm ETC for the TR-2000 and 145mm ETC for the TDR-3000) to take out other tanks because no CM's can stop a shell. ATGM's are more usefull against bunkers, buildings, and helicopters.
Russian Forces
04-10-2003, 14:56
What happens if you're cornered? If you are surrounded by steel? Tanks have proven many times to be deadly in modern war.

What happens if every third, fifth, and seventh tank in a group of eight is destroyed? That's almost 50% casualties. Besides, FR has some pretty nice ATGW's. He could pwn you himself, he doesn't need me to back him up.

well there are reasons to have Mi-24's and Mi-28's? You must know nothing is good alone.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
04-10-2003, 15:06
What happens if you're cornered? If you are surrounded by steel? Tanks have proven many times to be deadly in modern war.

What happens if every third, fifth, and seventh tank in a group of eight is destroyed? That's almost 50% casualties. Besides, FR has some pretty nice ATGW's. He could pwn you himself, he doesn't need me to back him up.
FYI: My tanks usually don't use ATGMs against tanks because of the countermeasures systems that can be deployed, we rely mostly on our tank's big guns(135mm ETC for the TR-2000 and 145mm ETC for the TDR-3000) to take out other tanks because no CM's can stop a shell. ATGM's are more usefull against bunkers, buildings, and helicopters.

Meh. *shrugs* You can get more power behind ATGM's. Mi-24's and Mi-28's are alright, but whatever.
04-10-2003, 15:13
Meh. *shrugs* You can get more power behind ATGM's. Mi-24's and Mi-28's are alright, but whatever.
The AT-16(most modern Russkie ATGM) can only get from 900-1000mm of penetration, whereas my 145mm ETC gun can get nearly 2700 or something.
04-10-2003, 16:15
AT-14 Kornet gets 1300mm penetration.

RF- upgrade your T-80's to black eagles instead of building new ones.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
04-10-2003, 16:23
Meh. *shrugs* You can get more power behind ATGM's. Mi-24's and Mi-28's are alright, but whatever.
The AT-16(most modern Russkie ATGM) can only get from 900-1000mm of penetration, whereas my 145mm ETC gun can get nearly 2700 or something.

O.o...

My MiLAN ATGM gets about 2000 mm of penetration. That's scary..
Russian Forces
05-10-2003, 01:25
we already have differen't models of T-80's.

T-80 U

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t-80u-line.gif

T-80 B

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t-80b-line.gif

as well as T-80UK's and T-84's

IF we want we can install rocket launchers on them.
05-10-2003, 01:28
Use T-84U with rocket launchers.

Or Black Eagles.
Bonstock
12-10-2003, 01:27
Bonstocknian Forces, all in Odessa, are now leaving. We're gone.