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The Armed Republic of Windspear is looking to purchase a large amount of military equipment for use in our army. We are interested in all aspects of military combat, and will purchase land, air, or sea weaponry.

Military Budget:

$28,000 MCI x 27% Taxes = $7560
$7560 x 31,000,000 (My Working Population) = $234360000000
$234360000000 x 8% (My Military Armoury Budget) = $18748800000

OOC: Before I go on I'm goig to have to ask what's gone wrong, that budget looks way too high.

Its way too high, use this http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Windspear&defenseprovided=1&defense=20&militarybudget=1 Allways when you acces it it calculates those numbers. Your military budget is 95,365,920,000 $

Also, here is my national site and my storefront http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/villerainamo/Index.htm

Thanks, that's a great help.

I'll give u a great deal on B-2s I've got a hundred I'll give them all to you for ten billion thats saving 90%!

You also need to consider that acquisitions is only one part of the military budget. Most of it should go to maintenance, training, personnel, etc.

I'll give u a great deal on B-2s I've got a hundred I'll give them all to you for ten billion thats saving 90%!

How does your nation have access to B-2 bombers, among the most technically complex aircraft ever built?

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I'll give u a great deal on B-2s I've got a hundred I'll give them all to you for ten billion thats saving 90%!

How does your nation have access to B-2 bombers, among the most technically complex aircraft ever built?
The same way he got a bomber with 16 engines that carries more than 24 C-130s in bombs, by making it up.

I'll give u a great deal on B-2s I've got a hundred I'll give them all to you for ten billion thats saving 90%!

How does your nation have access to B-2 bombers, among the most technically complex aircraft ever built?

One could also ask what the circumstances are that would allow him to profitably sell them for 90% off...

we got the B-2s from buying them from this crazy guy selling them for 50 million

we got the B-2s from buying them from this crazy guy selling them for 50 million

I've got the Brooklyn bridge for sale...200 million...cash upfront. I also have some nice beachfront property in Kansas I'm selling on the cheap.

we got the B-2s from buying them from this crazy guy selling them for 50 million

For God's sake, Jono Land, admit it! ResiCorp dissolved all of your nation, you retreated your population into GeForce, you have nothing left! NOTHING! YOU CAN'T SELL B-2'S RIGHT AFTER YOUR COUNTRY WAS DESTROYED AND YOUR POPULATION HAD RETREATED!!!

Huff... Puff...

For those who don't know, ResiCorp (I think) dropped some kind of stuff that dissolves everything non-organic (as in everything but humans) and his people dashed into GeForce's nation. How he's able to build a giant airplane and sell B-2's at an ungodly cheap price, when a September nation, is beyond me.

Terepa now selling military products under the name "Worker's Weapons!"

Communist nations get a 10% Discount.

Worker's Tanks!

OOC Note: We can make this stuff... we were resurrected. Check our population.


T-55

Our current primary MBT, they are being phased out in favor of newer models.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/t54-2.gif

CREW: 4
ENGINE: 690 hp Diesel
TOP SPEED: 50 KPH
MAX OFF-ROAD: 35 KPH
AVERAGE OFF-ROAD: 25 KPH
RANGE: 390 KM, 600 KM with extra tanks.
ARMOR: 200 MM
NBC PROTECTION: YES
MAIN GUN: 100 MM
COAXIAL MACHINE GUN: 7.62 MM Machinegun
COMMANDER'S MACHINE GUN: 12.7 MM Machinegun
COST: $500,000

T-72

This MBT is issued to our elite armor units. They will be filtered down to normal armor units as the newer T-90 tanks are phased into service.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/t72-2.gif

CREW: 3
ENGINE: 840 hp Diesel
TOP SPEED: 60 KPH
MAX OFF-ROAD: 45 KPH
AVERAGE OFF-ROAD: 35 KPH
RANGE: 500 KM, 900 KM with extra tanks.
ARMOR: 950 MM
NBC PROTECTION: YES
MAIN GUN: 125 MM
COAXIAL MACHINE GUN: 7.62 MM Machinegun
COMMANDER'S MACHINE GUN: 12.7 MM Machinegun
COST: $1,000,000

Worker's Artillery!

Kondensator 2P

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/cannon-001.jpg

We use this self-propelled artillary piece for heavy bombardment of cities since we do not have nuclear weapons.

BARREL DIAMETER: 406mm (That's not a typo... 406mm!)
RANGE OF GUN: 28 KM
COST: $1,000,000

2S5 Giatsint-S

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/2s5-line.gif

Our primary self-propelled artillary,

CREW: 5
ENGINE: 520-hp V-59-V-12 multi-fuel Diesel
MAX ROAD SPEED: 63 KPH
MAX OFF-ROAD SPEED: 25 KPH
NBC PROTECTION: YES
BARREL DIAMETER: 152 MM
RANGE OF GUN: 30.5 KM
COST: $550,000

Type 54

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/t54-001.jpg

Our most numerous artillary. Typically one is hauled along with each infantry platoon.

BARREL DIAMETER: 122 MM
COST: $8,000 (Please note the price was 100,000. After some thinking, I decided to lower the price. Rebates have been wired to all countries who bought it at the first price.)

OOC NOTE: All above information from Globalsecurity.org. All information below from world.guns.ru.

Worker's Aircraft

AN-2/3 Utility Aircraft

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/an2sch.gif

Please note the AN-2 is the piston-powered version, and the AN-3 has a turboprop.

Role: Light-transport (10 equipped troops), general utility
Wing Span: 18.19 m
Length: 12.75 Meters
Height: 4.1 Meters
Engine (AN-2) 1xASh-62 IR, 985 hp (Piston)
Engine (AN-3) 1xTVD-10B, 959 hp (Turboprop)
Maximum Speed (AN-2): 250 KPH
Maximum Speed (AN-3): 260 KPH
Crusing Speed: 220 KPH
Ranges:
1025 km - with maximum fuel
300 km - with maximum load

Maximum Altitude: 5000 Meters

Runway Distances:

650 m - dirt takeoff-landing strip
400 m - surfaced takeoff-landing

Armament: Usually none, but ours include mounts for 12.7mm Machine Guns on the wings

Crew: 2

Weights:
3330 kg - empty
5500 kg - maximum takeoff
5800 kg - maximum takeoff [An-3]
1500 kg - maximum payload
1800 kg - maximum payload [An-3]

COST:
$80,000 AN-2
$90,000 AN-3

Worker's Guns!

AKM

http://world.guns.ru/assault/ak_54.jpg

Our primary assualt rifle

Caliber 7.62x39 mm
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Overall length: 870 mm
Barrel length: 415 mm
Weight, with empty magazine: AK 4,3 kg; AKM 3,14 kg
Magazine capacity 30 rounds (40 rounds box magazines and 75 rounds drums from RPK also may be used)
Cyclic rate of fire 600 rounds per minute
Maximum effective range: about 400 meters
COST: $145

Skorpion vz 61

http://world.guns.ru/smg/skorpion_vz61-7_65.jpg

Our primary submachinegun

Caliber: 7.65x17mm (.32ACP) in vz.61; also 9x18mm Makarov in vz.82 and 9x17mm (.380ACP) in vz.83
Weight: 1.28 kg without magazine
Lenght (stock closed/open): 270 / 517 mm
Barrel lenght: 115 mm
Rate of fire: ca. 850 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 20 rounds
Effective range: 25 meters
COST: $130

GSh-18

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/gsh18-1.jpg

Our primary pistol.

Type: Double Action Only
Chamber: 9x19mm Luger / Parabellum (also 9x19mm +P+)
Weight with empty magazine: 580 g
Length: 183 mm
Barrel length: 103 mm
Capacity: 18 rounds
COST: $120

Worker's... Other Stuff?!

Field Kitchen

http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/fieldkitchens/Kitchenlargeweb3.gif

http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/fieldkitchens/kitchen1e.gif

We are pleased to announce the sale of our field kitchens, which have fed semi-tasty chow to the soldiers of Terepa for 66 years. (No, not the exact same ones, at least in most cases :) Be assured, the ones you are buying are built brand-new.)

Length 2.100mm
Width 2.438mm
Height 1.565mm
Weight 580kg
COST: $200

OOC: The specs for the field kitchen are from the site the picture is from.
Sorry, no sea weaponry yet. We can reccomend United Elias though. He sells several patrol boat type vessels for under 50 million.


Premier Nikita S. Khrushchev II
Leader of Terepa
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/terepa.jpg
http://novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/HIS135/photos/khrushchev.jpg
Workers of the World Unite

Any pistol that can be sold for a profit at $ 120 is junk.

OOC: I have no idea how much any of the stuff would cost, so I just guessed.

IC: Look at the picture. Does it look like junk? Look at the specs. Are they junk? No.

Premier Nikita S. Khrushchev II
Leader of Terepa
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/terepa.jpg
http://novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/HIS135/photos/khrushchev.jpg
Workers of the World Unite

You also need to consider that acquisitions is only one part of the military budget. Most of it should go to maintenance, training, personnel, etc.

We already have. In total 20% of our national budget goes towards the military. 8% towards training of troops, 3% towards maintenance, and 9% towards purchases.

OOC-Your specs don't tell us the range, accuracy, etc. That's what counts when it comes to firearms.

I should also say that we are a modern tech nation, set 15 years in the future max.

OOC- my specs for all the firearms but the pistol tell the range, because the website did not list range for the pistol. As for the accuracy, I don't think their is any way to quantify as a number the accuracy of a gun.

OOC- my specs for all the firearms but the pistol tell the range, because the website did not list range for the pistol. As for the accuracy, I don't think their is any way to quantify as a number the accuracy of a gun.
OOC-Accuracy is usually measured in MOA, or just give us a statistic, like, can hit within 3inch circle at 20 yds, or something along that line.

OOC: Okay, I'm not an expert on guns, I can identify them, give you basics like what size of bullet, so does anyone know the "MOA" or some other type of figure for the AK-47, the Skorpion vz 61, or the GSh-18?

OOC: Sorry, Terepa is my puppet. I have a puppet for basically every philosophy of government. I've got a dictatorship, a communist (Terepa), a conservative, a libertarian, a socialist, etc.

OOC: Minute of Angle, a mathematical term that's useful in determining rifle/bullet accuracy. When used as a military term, it represents 1" at 100m, 2" at 200m and so on. So 3 MOA at 300 meters means 9 inches off mark at 300m. Pretty wide miss.

Okay, but does anyone have these figures for the guns I sell?

OOC: Minute of Angle, a mathematical term that's useful in determining rifle/bullet accuracy. When used as a military term, it represents 1" at 100m, 2" at 200m and so on. So 3 MOA at 300 meters means 9 inches off mark at 300m. Pretty wide miss.
That's not quite how MOA works. MOA is a measurment of the grouping, as accuracy is really based on consistency. 3 MOA means that at 300 yards (not meters), a grouping of 3-5 shots can be covered by a 9" diameter circle. If the weapon is properly sighted and aimed, however, that means that it is unlikely for it to be much more than 4.5" off target.