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Penguenian Aerospace - CLOSED

Penguenia
28-09-2003, 00:57
IC: Penguenian Aerospace is closed. We will sell starfighters if asked to do so, but official buisness is closed. Rashad-Anyon has employed anti-buisness tactics against us and ruined our buisness.

OOC: Really fucking low of the person behined Rashad-Anyon. "THEYRE MY PICS!! NO YOU CANT USE THEM BECUZ THEYRE MINE!!!" Bad mentality, please go die somewhere.


The artist of the images of the Levianthan, Iskulde, Pontius, and Mantis has asked me to take those images down, I have complied. The owner of Mr Piccolo's images doesn't even want to let me represent them as my ships would look like in this completely unrelated universe, (which is really silly because he displays them publically online for the world to see, and every other storefront here is of copyrighted images as well, but he thinks hes special) I have also complied with this.
Klonor
28-09-2003, 00:58
Okay, you're to young to be able to build those, and probably to young to have RP'd their development. They look good, just wait a few years.

Wazzu, don't say one word!
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 00:59
Thats why the larger ships require pre-payment :lol:
28-09-2003, 01:00
Okay, you're to young to be able to build those, and probably to young to have RP'd their development. They look good, just wait a few years.

Wazzu, don't say one word!


Maybe he's a space nation
Klonor
28-09-2003, 01:01
That's why I said probably to young to have RP'd their development, I don't know what tech he started at.
Klonor
28-09-2003, 01:02
Wait, when you said wait 4 months for delivery, did you mean RL time or NS time?
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 01:02
Oh I am a futuretech nation, don't worry. Our army may use some older weapons, but the weapon is only as good as it's weilder :roll:
28-09-2003, 01:02
Well I'll help him make them
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 01:03
Wait, when you said wait 4 months for delivery, did you mean RL time or NS time?

NS time
28-09-2003, 01:03
I can afford one, but i not that high-tech yet... :(
Klonor
28-09-2003, 01:04
Wait, when you said wait 4 months for delivery, did you mean RL time or NS time?

NS time

Then my first point still stands, you are way to young to be able to manufacture, crew, or pay for those ships. Sorry.
28-09-2003, 01:06
Well I'll help him make them
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 01:06
Wait, when you said wait 4 months for delivery, did you mean RL time or NS time?

NS time

Then my first point still stands, you are way to young to be able to manufacture, crew, or pay for those ships. Sorry.

Hey, my nation hasn't built a single one yet :lol: We don't plan on using our own money to manufacture them for our use yet, but we have the blueprints, and if people begin to order, the high prices will cover the manufacturing cost with a small profit.
Klonor
28-09-2003, 01:07
Well I'll help him make them

Sorry, I didn't see that. Objection withdrawn. Good luck!
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 01:09
Sean, you have TM
Klonor
28-09-2003, 01:12
And Penquenia, if you want to get some ships for yourself while you manufacture those ships feel free to stop by my store thred. I'm sure you'll find all you need.

And sorry for adding this in your thread, but I really like the picture and try to post it whenever possible


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Duke Solomon Klonor
Founder: Galactic Alliance
Member: The New Jewish Alliance
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/ksig.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081)
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 01:13
Heh, I don't mind you advertising. It's all about competition :lol: I may just pick up some of your craft.
The Resi Corporation
28-09-2003, 01:19
I can afford one, but i not that high-tech yet... :(It's hard for a lake to have any technology at all, isn't it?
28-09-2003, 01:20
Sean, you have TM

no i dont lol you sure you sent it?
Klonor
28-09-2003, 01:21
he sent it to me.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 01:24
oops :?
Klonor
28-09-2003, 01:26
I thought it was odd when you asked me to go into business with you when you already had an older nation offering his help.
28-09-2003, 01:34
I'd like
1 Levianthan MKII Capital Ship
3 Iskulde Light Cruisers
10 Pontius Persuit Destroyers
50 Mantis MKIII Dropships
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 01:44
your total is $1,770,350,000,000. Details 2 posts down.
28-09-2003, 01:59
To lazy to log back in as Jump-Tech

Actually that comes to $1,770,350,000,000
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 02:01
You're right, the total is $1,770,350,000,000. Adding amazingly huge numbers is quite hard :lol:. Your order will commence construction upon payment being wired. It will be in Jump-Tech within the next 5 NS moths.
28-09-2003, 02:20
*is still to lazy to log back in as Jump-Tech*
Money wired
*wires money*
28-09-2003, 02:26
We would like to purchase:

(1) Leviathan MKII Capital Ship ($1,500,000,000,000)
(14) Iskulde Light Cruiser ($1,260,000,000,000)
(20) Pontius Persuit Destroyer ($200,000,000)
(24) Mantis MKIII Dropship ($120,000,000)

TOTAL: $2,760,320,000,000

Please split the order in half, and bill the nation of Sniper Country with half.

::$1,380,160,000,000 WIRED::
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 02:27
Jump Tech: Order confirmed. We assure you that you will be most pleased with your new ships. The Levianthan will arrive in your airspace 5 monthes from now on autopilot along with the Mantis' in launch bay 1. The Cruisers and Destroyers will arrive the same time by the same methods.

Arba/Sniper Country:Order Confirmed. Same proceure as Jump-Tech. Enjoy.
28-09-2003, 02:41
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Klonor
28-09-2003, 03:00
Okay, some of your stuff is way to much, some is way to little. Get a little balance in here.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 03:13
Some price changes have been made. If you already bought stuff, no need to pay the diffrence.
Klonor
28-09-2003, 03:18
The Destroyer is way to low. Destroyers should at least be in the billions. The light cruiser is a little to high, but it's nowhere as far off as the Destroyer.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 03:23
That's all I'll raise it and lower it. I find it reasonable. As said before, no need to pay me the diffrence for price increase if you already bought.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 03:47
Topz
28-09-2003, 04:09
2 MKII
5 cruisers
10 destroyers
20 MKIII
money wired after shipment complete
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 04:17
Unless you are another nation's puppet who forgot to log out, you dont have enough money. And the MKII and Cruisers must always be paid for in advance.
28-09-2003, 04:20
puppet? ha! fine, ill take 1 MKII, 2 cruisers, 7 destroyers, and 15 MKIII
everything paid for in advance
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 04:24
You don't even have enough for one MKII. They cost 1.5 trillion dollars, your national budget without calculating military spending is only about $19,000,000,000.

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Jumping%20Cow
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 04:50
Noone else wants the best invasion craft in the galaxy?
Klonor
28-09-2003, 04:55
The best? I doubt that. But, why don't you enter your ships in the "best fleet" contest? So far we have two entrants, and one of them only has a single shuttle.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 04:56
How can I enter them when I myself don't actually have a fleet?
Klonor
28-09-2003, 04:57
You make a good point.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 05:32
Updated with fighters.
Luna Amore
28-09-2003, 05:52
Hey, my nation hasn't built a single one yet :lol: We don't plan on using our own money to manufacture them for our use yet, but we have the blueprints, and if people begin to order, the high prices will cover the manufacturing cost with a small profit.I like the way you think. :D

Amore's Order:

2 Levianthan MKII Capital Ships : 3,000,000,000,000
5 Iskulde Light Cruisers : 175,000,000,000
10 Pontius Persuit Destroyers : 100,000,000,000
100 Mantis MKIII Dropships : 500,000,000
100 Starscythe Fighters : 600,000,000

Subtotal : $3,276,100,000,000

The Amorian Empire
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 05:58
Order confirmed. We assure you that you will be most pleased with your new ships. Once the money is wired, we will begin construction and delivery will commence once the construction is complete. The Levianthan will arrive in your airspace 5 monthes from now on autopilot along with the Mantis' in launch bay 1. The Cruisers and Destroyers will arrive the same time by the same methods.
Luna Amore
28-09-2003, 06:13
Right. Money wired.

Amore
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 06:20
Thank you for your buisness. The details of your order were already explained, have a nice day.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 08:27
topz
Klonor
28-09-2003, 08:32
Hey, off topic post, do you have any interest in joining the Galactic Alliance? If so, just post an application the GA thread (there's a link in my sig)


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Duke Solomon Klonor
Founder: Galactic Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71260)
Member: The New Jewish Alliance
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/ksig.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081)
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 08:38
I would join the Alliance, but I am an Earth Based futruetech nation. This seems to conflict with some of the mandates.
Klonor
28-09-2003, 08:39
it does? Which ones? We have many Earth based members.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 08:41
I must have misunderstood, I will consider joining, but for now, the Emperor of Penguenia needs to sleep his sick off :lol:
Klonor
28-09-2003, 08:44
If you do join there's a 50% discount at my ship store.
28-09-2003, 08:48
Penguinea, are you Christian piccolo, the artist that drew those images? if so, they look REALLY COOL!
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 08:51
Alas I am not. He's a great artist though. I searched google "dropship" because I wanted to remodel my current dropships, then I found his whole site, and BAM! Penguenian Aerospace is born.

Ps: expect more ships by Cheif Designer Piccolo in the future :wink:
Pss: The troop capacity of the Mantis has been found to actually hold 40 troops, all who have ordered will recieve this upgrade. We underestimated the troop capacity earlier. The vechile capacity is them same. Sorry for any inconvienances this may have caused.
28-09-2003, 17:59
fine. no MKII, 5 cruisers, 10 destroyers, and 20 MKIII, money wired in advance
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 18:38
Order confirmed. We assure you that you will be most pleased with your new ships. We will begin construction immediatly and delivery will commence once the construction is complete. Your shipment should be in your country's airspace in 2 months. The Crusiers and destroyers will arrive by autopilot and the dropships will arrive by sea. Enjoy.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 18:55
*giggle* topz lol *giggle*
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 19:51
:? Even though I'm pretty rich now from all the profits, I need more. Buy the greatest warships in the Galaxy.
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 21:19
Updated with interior images of the Levianthan
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 21:54
topz
Penguenia
28-09-2003, 23:00
APC's added soon. Cost: 3 million each. Any preorders?
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 01:28
topz
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 02:42
topz again.
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 07:34
We only have about 4,000,000,000,000 USD left. We need your buisness
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 09:39
topz before sleep
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 12:57
topz as waking up an hour later.
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 02:56
love the ships, touch the ships, feel the ships, buy the ships.
30-09-2003, 03:01
Got a package deal?
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:03
Hmmmz.... not yet, not enough sales. Since your in the alliance I could give you a small discount though :wink:
30-09-2003, 03:04
Well, how about this... No discount, but you pick out enough ships to make a fleet for me and I'll buy them.
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:05
Don't you have several fleets? :?
30-09-2003, 03:06
Yes, 5 VERY large and powerful ones. plus 2 Klonor prefabs and some others I bought.
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:08
What do you need it for? I could make variants of the Levianthan to hold more ships, more troops and equipment, more small guns sacrificing the big one, ect...
30-09-2003, 03:09
I didn't ask you for that, do you want my money or not?
Artitsa
30-09-2003, 03:16
If I ever become a space nation, I'll keep this store in mind. Good stuff it is.
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:22
Ok Jim, Penguenian Fleets are built for fast attack and persuit, so I'll give you 2 packages, low and high budget.

Low Budget:
-1 Levianthan
----200 Starscythes
----200 Sentinels
----------------OPTIONAL: 500 Manits Dropships for landing troops/taking ships
-10 Iskuldes
-8 Pontuis

High Budget:
-2 Levianthan
----400 Starscythes
----400 Sentinels
----------------OPTIONAL: 1000 Mantis Dropships for landing troops/taking ships
-20 Iskuldes
-18 Pontius
30-09-2003, 03:23
High budget one, no option. I have ducks for that.

*Money wired*
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:27
$3,885,600,000,000 USD recieved.

We assure you that you will be most pleased with your new ships. The Levianthans will arrive in your airspace 5 monthes from now on autopilot along with the fighters in their in launch bays . The Cruisers and Destroyers will arrive the same time by the same methods.
30-09-2003, 03:28
Wanna buy a duck?
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:30
link to your store plz
30-09-2003, 03:36
link to your store plz

I don't have one, I think. If you need a pic or stats I can post them here.
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:41
sure.
30-09-2003, 03:43
Sheba Class

http://www.midwinter.com/b5/Pictures/Misc/starship.gif

A transport ship made for large Mech and infantry divisions. Powered by a ministar II engine.

Mech capacity: 5000
Infantry: 50000
anti-scanning hull
anti-ion shielding
Capable of planet landings
30-09-2003, 03:44
Hey I want you to make me a fleet exaclty like yours and add & update when you update your k? whats the cost?
Klonor
30-09-2003, 03:45
Those ducks ROCK!
30-09-2003, 03:46
yep i have 500 :lol:
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:46
Jim: OMFGIES COOL!!! When I expand my ground troops I'll be sure to buy some.

LoA: you talking to me?
30-09-2003, 03:46
yep
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:47
ok... you want my fleet or Jims new fleet?
30-09-2003, 03:48
Show Me Yours And Jims!
Klonor
30-09-2003, 03:48
Why not my fleet? I have a good package fleet.
30-09-2003, 03:49
Cuz you won't build me a colosus :wink:
30-09-2003, 03:49
Show Me Yours And Jims!

I have a new fleet?
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:50
Jim's new fleet is on the bottom of the previous page, my fleet can be seen on the fleet contest thread. Jim's fleet costs around 3.5 trillion, mine is more like 1.7 trillion.
Klonor
30-09-2003, 03:53
Cuz you won't build me a colosus :wink:

I built one for the GA, isn't that enough?
30-09-2003, 03:57
I'll Have The Low Budget One!

Post All The Ships Here Liek You Di On The Klonor contest
30-09-2003, 03:57
Cuz you won't build me a colosus :wink:

I built one for the GA, isn't that enough?

I I Want One

My Goal Is To Have One of Every Flagship :wink:
30-09-2003, 03:58
How much for the Kabal class design?
30-09-2003, 03:58
Show me specs and everything
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 03:59
LoA, do you want the optional dropships?

Low Budget:
-1 Levianthan
----200 Starscythes
----200 Sentinels
----------------OPTIONAL: 500 Manits Dropships for landing troops/taking ships
-10 Iskuldes
-8 Pontuis
Klonor
30-09-2003, 04:00
The cost for the Colossus specs will be 50 trillion, including the cost of all materials and construction crews.

And that's only if I decide to sell. Most likely I'll chose not to.
30-09-2003, 04:01
LoA, do you want the optional dropships?

Low Budget:
-1 Levianthan
----200 Starscythes
----200 Sentinels
----------------OPTIONAL: 500 Manits Dropships for landing troops/taking ships
-10 Iskuldes
-8 Pontuis

no
30-09-2003, 04:01
please klonor
30-09-2003, 04:01
just production rights :wink:
30-09-2003, 04:03
The cost for the Colossus specs will be 50 trillion, including the cost of all materials and construction crews.

And that's only if I decide to sell. Most likely I'll chose not to.

10 trilllion, and my Sidney medal.
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 04:04
Low Budget:
-1 Levianthan
----200 Starscythes
----200 Sentinels
-10 Iskuldes
-8 Pontuis

LoA the fleet above will cost: $1,932,800,000,000 USD
30-09-2003, 04:06
can I pay over like 10 years?
Klonor
30-09-2003, 04:06
I still haven't even decided to sell the specs.
30-09-2003, 04:07
I still haven't even decided to sell the specs.

*shakes fist, the one that shot you once.*

Sell them...
30-09-2003, 04:07
not you klonor :wink:
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 04:09
can I pay over like 10 years?

no :? your budget is over 6 trillion. Click Here (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Lands%20of%20Ages)
30-09-2003, 04:12
I just had a rwar and rebuild!
1 Trillion A year For 10 Years
First Part Wired :wink:
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 04:14
Ok so I have 1 trillion, you still owe me $932,800,000,000. I expect it next NS year. Or I'll reposess your fleet :twisted:
30-09-2003, 04:20
Oh never mind I though it was 10 trillion

Rest of money wired :wink:
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 04:25
Thank you

We assure you that you will be most pleased with your new ships. The Levianthan will arrive in your airspace 5 monthes from now on autopilot along with the fighters in their in launch bays . The Cruisers and Destroyers will arrive the same time by the same methods.
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 08:51
Edit: Nevermined
30-09-2003, 08:55
Can I Production Rights?
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 22:34
No, bump ro the top.
01-10-2003, 05:16
"The artist of the images of the Levianthan, Iskulde, Pontius, and Mantis has asked me to take those images down, I have complied. TM me and I'll tell you where you can find the images."

I happen to be the owner of those concept images. I commissioned the artist to create them as per my specifications for my project. I would apprecaite it if you do not use them as 'representations' of your own ships, as they are, in all ways. my property.

Thank you.
Penguenia
01-10-2003, 05:24
I get it, now that you play, you plan on making your own sotrefront in the future and using them as your tech. Well feel special, I'm looking for other pictures, but the ships that have already been produced keep that design, future vessels will change look.
01-10-2003, 05:30
The ships have nothing to do with Nationstates. I used to play as the nation Anyon amongst friends. Our roleplaying died off, as did Anyon. After hearing about this incident from my artist, I created a new account so I could post my request.

Thank you for your compliance.
Penguenia
01-10-2003, 05:33
you should tell your artist to take your images of the internet if you don't want anyone but you to use them. End Rant, if you want to take this further TM me, though I don't like to fight.
01-10-2003, 05:47
Incorrect. His page had a legal notice stating that the artwork was not to be taken and used elsewhere. Furthermore, it is copyright-law and common sense that another person's artwork is in NO way your artwork, no matter where it is posted. And now, his site has an even stronger legal notice.

What you're saying is like saying "Lucas shouldn't post concepts of his new Stormtroopers on Starwars.com if he doesn't want people to steal them." You cannot justify theft, so don't try it.

If the artist's portfolio website said "these images are free. public domain. take and use as you will" then you would have a point, but it does not say that. You have no ground to stand on, so don't make such foolish statements.

As for TMing, I prefer this to be handled and concluded openly. I consider the matter closed. Done and done.

End of story.
Penguenia
01-10-2003, 06:01
I'd like to get my last word in: I never claimed thy were mine. I was not stealing Mr. Piccolo's work, and even originally gave a link to your site saying "I got the pics here." I will hear no more of this, I took them down, there is no reason to fight over some silly pictures. KTHANXBYE.
Penguenia
01-10-2003, 06:08
PE is now closed until we can find sutable images for our ships or redesign the ships to new images.