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i'll take it

-Buy from new storefront topic-

Too expencive...

Other (missiles, space, amphibious, etc.)

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BGM-109 Tomahawk
Length: 18 feet 3 inches (5.56 meters); with booster: 20 feet 6 inches (6.25 meters)
Weight: 2,650 pounds (1192.5 kg); 3,200 pounds (1440 kg) with booster
Diameter: 20.4 inches (51.81 cm)
Wing Span (when deployed): 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 meters)
Range: Land attack, conventional warhead: 600 nautical miles
Speed: Approx. 550 mph
Warheads: Conventional 1000 lb high explosive warhead OR conventional munition bomblet dispenser OR 200 kiloton W-80 nuclear warhead. Comes with standard high explosive warhead.
Cost: $750,000. 10% discount to regional allies, 10% discount on orders of more than 2500.

Launched from the sea via a torpedo tube, Vertical Launch System, or Armored Box Launcher, this highly destructive, highly accurate, and highly versatile missile has been the main land attack missile of the American navy for the last decade. It is also highly accurate, with only a handful of booster failures in its history, and a 90%+ strike success rate in both Iraq and Bosnia. Great addition to any navy.


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Jono lands wants this

Jono Lands announces this.

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Engine: 275 hp Detroit Diesel
Speed: 62 mph land, 6 mph swimming.
Drive: All time 4x4, selective 8 wheel drive. 2 propellers, 4 rudders when swimming.
Maximum grade: 60%
Maximum side slop: 30 degrees.
Onboard equipment: Mechanical and engineering tools, camouflage nets. One self recovery winch.
Armament: GMLAV-25: One M242 25mm Bushmaster chain gun (210 rounds ready to fire, 210 rounds stowed.). One dual tube TOW launcher mounted on the left side of the turret (2 missiles ready to fire, 10 stored). One coaxially mounted 7.62mm machine gun(440 rounds ready to fire), and one pintle mounted 7.62mm machine gun (220 rounds ready to fire). 660 stowed 7.62mm rounds. 8 ready to fire smoke grenades. GMLAV-AD One Avenger SAM system (8 missiles ready to fire, 8 stowed). Two 20mm chain guns (200 rounds ready to fire, 400 stowed for each). One coaxially mounted 7.62mm machine gun (250 rounds ready to fire, 300 stowed).
Passengers: GMLAV-25: One driver, one commander, one gunner, 5 infantry. GMLAV-AD: One driver, one commander, two gunners.
Cost: GMLAV-25: $1.2 million. GMLAV-AD: $2.6 million. These vehicles are not available to allies due to a trade agreement with the Federation of the Eternal Flame. 10% discount on orders greater than 1600.

These are the Great Mateo modified versions of the USMC LAV series. Fast on land and completely amphibious, these vehicles can be modified to suit a variety of needs and can pack a heavy punch.

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M220 TOW missile launcher
Weight: 204.6 lbs
Armament: TOW missiles, fired one at a time and then reloaded.
Maximum effective range: 2.3 miles.
Cost: $180,000 without truck. This system cannot be purchased by allies due to a trade agreement with the Federation of the Eternal Flame. 10% discount on orders of 20,000 or greater.

Tube launcher, Optically tracked, Wired guided missile that can be fired from vehicles, helicopters, or tripods. Amazingly accurate, these powerful missiles can and will devastate almost any form of armor.

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Avenger Pedestal Mounted Stinger
Weight: 8,300 lbs
Armament: 8 Stinger missiles. One .50 caliber machine gun with 200 rounds.
Max acquisition range: 10 km (Approx. 6 miles)
Turret rotation: -10 to +70 degrees vertically, 360 degrees horizontally.
Cost: $1.1 million without truck. Allies may not purchase this system due to trade agreement with the Federation of the Eternal Flame.

Shoulder launched Stinger SAM canisters mounted onto a rotating turret on a military vehicle. Heat seeking and very agile.

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Harpoon Antiship Missile
Length: 15 feet
Weight: 1,470 lbs
Range: 60+ nautical miles
Speed: Approx. 513 mph
Cost: $550,000. 10% discount to allies, 10% discount on orders of more than 2500.

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LCAC
Length: 88 feet
Beam: 47 feet
Capacity: 60 tons, 75 tons overload.
Speed: 40+ knots with full payload.
Armament: 2 12.7mm machine guns. Machine gun mounts will support: M2 .50 caliber machine gun, Mk 19 40mm grenade launcher, M60 machine gun.
Crew: 5
Range: 200 miles at 40 knots. 300 miles at 35 knots.
Cost: $22 million. 10% discount to allies, 10% discount on orders of 120 or greater.

Heavy duty hover craft capable of carrying large quantities of vehicles or cargo to shore rapidly during an amphibious assault. Since it is a hover craft, it is able to operate in any water depth, and over mine and obstacle filled water. Once it reachers the shore, it can proceed to drive up onto the short and continue to go until it reaches an offloading point.

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GM TITAN I LCAC
Length: 165 feet
Beam: 60 feet
Capapcity: 130 tons, 145 tons overload.
Armament:2 20mm chain guns, 2 .50 caliber machine guns, 1 Mk 19 grenade launcher
Speed: 35 knots with full payload.
Range: 275 miles at full speed.
Crew: 12
Cost: $50 million. 10% discount to regional allies, 10% discount on orders of 90 or greater.

Basic LCAC extended to accomodate a larger load per sortie.

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Peacekeeper ICBM
Booster: 3 solid fuel stages, 1 liquid fuel stage.
Length: 71 feet
Diameter: 7 feet, 8 inches
Weight: 195,000 lbs
Range: Greater than 6,000 miles
Speed: Approx. 15,000 mph (Mach 20) at burnout
Amount of reentry vehicles: 10
Cost: $75 million. 10% discount to allies, 10% discount on orders of 150 or greater. Price does not include warheads of any kind. GM cannot provide these at the moment, and, even if our nation could, would not in most cases.

Intercontinental Ballistic Missile designed to deliver heavy conventional or nuclear payloads to multiple targets thousands of miles away.

75 knots? Is it supercav dependable, or does it use some insanely fast engine system with unbelievably frictionless motors, and a VERY streamlined hull?

Hmm, 75 knots for a 10 meter long craft isnt impossible McLeod, if im not terribly mistaken the sub-fighters that we both use can reach 100 knots with their regular engines and most of them are easilly larger than this, the Chimaera for one is 29 meters long.

And the price is simply insanely high Mateo. Check my site for some idea how much this kind of things should cost to be worth it http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/villerainamo/Index.htm

BUT, they don't have ten Mk48 torpedo tubes, which is a) loads of drag, and b) loads of weight.

OOC: I was loosely basing the price off of the price of Advanced SEAL Delivery System, which is a basic minisub the seals use with no armament, and it's fairly slow. One of those runs the US Navy 230 million. I raised the price since this would be armed and much faster, and then added some more so I would actually make a profit. Anyway, I'll lower the price. And change it to say 75 knots as the max speed with standard armament, which is Mk. 50 torpedoes that are about 1/4 the size of the Mk. 48.

OOC: Nice to see that someone else uses the Manta concept in their navy. :) Although, my picture isn't as good as this one. ;)

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ill take 50, paid for in advance

You can't afford that. At your size, 50 of these would be more than half your national budget.

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OOC: Nice to see that someone else uses the Manta concept in their navy. :) Although, my picture isn't as good as this one. ;)

OOC: Stole the picture from an article in Popular Science about unmanned minisubs exactly like the ones in the picture that the Navy is developing. :D

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This new class of sub can bring a great advantage to any submarine in a battle! 10% discount off purchases of more than 8 subs.

OOC: Nice to see that someone else uses the Manta concept in their navy. :) Although, my picture isn't as good as this one. ;)

OOC: I've been using them since late March in RPs....on my 4th Gen Manta and 3rd Gen Mother Sub...

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fine, ill take 15, paid for in advance

Order confirmed. Total cost will be $7,087,500,000. Subs will ship in 4-5 days RL.

OOC: Just so you know, that's something like 90% of your defense budget that you just spent.

I will take 100,

47.25 billion will de wired upon confirmation.

Tisonican order confirmed. Subs will arrive in 5-6 days real life due to the large order. And the price is actually $42,525,000,000 for you Tisonica, you're getting regional and bulk buying discounts.

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These fast attack subs are a great addition to any Navy! Buy now!

I guess I'll take 1

Order confirmed, will be shipped once cost of $525,000,000 is wired.

money wired

Sub should arrive in tomorrow RL.

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Buy now!

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I will take ten of them...*money wired*

Order confirmed, will arrive in 2-3 days RL.

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Daaaaaaayam you bump this topic alot.

Not going to get any sales with the topic 5 pages back.

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Buy our subs!

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take three money wired

Order confirmed, arrive tomorrow RL.

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i'll take 10.
no i am not a noob.
595 million pop and growing.
money wired upon confirmation.

Confirmed. Order will arrive in 2-3 days RL.

thanks

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To: Great Mateo diplomats
From: Vrak Military Procurement Division
Subject: production rights

We would like to know if we could purchase the production rights for your mini sub.

Sorry, production rights for these subs are not for sale. We wish to keep them exclusive to our nation.

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will take 100,

47.25 billion minus whatever applicable discounts that apply will be wired automatically upon confirmation.

We want 100

* Money Wired Upon Confirmation *

Both orders confirmed. They both total $42,525,000,000. Subs have been shipped, but will not arrive for 5-6 days real life due to the simulataneous large orders.

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I'll take 20 of them, with 10 mother subs.

The mother subs are currently unavailable, as we have not finished developing them though. They will be available in about 2 weeks RL, however. Do you still wish to place an order for 20 minisubs?

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Thanks to massive loans and other aid from our ally Federation of the Eternal Flame, the Armed Republic of Great Mateo's first major military project has been finished well ahead of schedule!


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Length: 30 feet
Height: 9 feet
Width: 28 feet
Max speed with standard armament: 75 knots
Max Operating Depth: 700 feet (home sub may not go below this depth either, or the mini sub will be crushed)
Crew: 3
Combat Radius: 100 miles
Armament: 10 horizontal launch tubes, which can hold any tube launched weapon under 20 feet in length, including Mk. 48 and torpedo tube launched Tomahawk cruise missiles. Tubes can be simultaneously fired. No added storage. Comes with Mk. 50 torpedoes.
Cost: 525 million, 10% discount to regional allies, and 10% discount on orders of more than 8.

Deployed from a larger sub, this vessel's speed and ability to empty all of its weaponry at once makes it perfect for fast hit and run attacks on enemy coast lines. The high amount of noise it generates while operating does not matter in most cases, because its amazing speed enables it to outrun most torpedoes. In fact, this speedy ship is able to become completely airborne for a very brief moment when performing an emergency rise at full speed. Its short combat radius requires it to return to the "mother" sub or base very often for refueling, limiting it to fast attack and return missions, close quarters aid for battles with other subs, and close range coastal defense.

Tube launched Tomahawks and Mk. 48 torpedoes will be available for purchase as well within 2 weeks RL.

A 30 foot long vessel has 10 horizontal launch tubes? Where in the heck did you manage to fit them all? Where are the main engineering spaces?

ill buy some of them only for a reasonable price wot u offering?

A 30 foot long vessel has 10 horizontal launch tubes? Where in the heck did you manage to fit them all? Where are the main engineering spaces?

You have to remember, it's a minisub. The crew is only 3, and they're in rather cramped quarters, and there are no engineering spaces. Most of the width is the "wing". The 21" wide launch tubes are packed close together, and are preloaded with their armament before the mother sub leaves the naval base. Once it fires off what it carries, it's of no use until it returns to base and is rearmed, other than maybe a scout vessel.

As for Albertz, the price is listed right in the description of the sub.

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A 30 foot long vessel has 10 horizontal launch tubes? Where in the heck did you manage to fit them all? Where are the main engineering spaces?

You have to remember, it's a minisub. The crew is only 3, and they're in rather cramped quarters, and there are no engineering spaces. Most of the width is the "wing". The 21" wide launch tubes are packed close together, and are preloaded with their armament before the mother sub leaves the naval base. Once it fires off what it carries, it's of no use until it returns to base and is rearmed, other than maybe a scout vessel.

As for Albertz, the price is listed right in the description of the sub.

The Tomahawk is larger than 21" (22 in fact) The unit is not capable of being launched from a horizontal tube...additionally mark 48ADCAP torpedos aren't launched from the same tube as a tomahawk. Since the vessel is only 9 feet high and each tomahawk is around 23 feet long I dont see how you can build a mini sub with that many weapons tubes, and no room for ballast tanks,lifesupport,power systems (nuclear reactor or storage battery?) In either case you need to have space to house the reactor vessel and engine turbined or storage batteries and an electric motor(and a way to recharge the battery)

Not to mention the rather bulky sonar transducer and firing control computers.

The Los Angeles class attack subs have 12 vertical launch tubes and it's 360 feet long.

I think you've created an impossible design here.

Actually, the UGM-109 Tomahawk is 18 feet long, 20 inches wide, and can be launched horizontally. It's just that most current US nuclear subs use a VLS system, or the Mk 143 Armored Box Launcher. But it CAN be launched from a torpedo tube. 10 tubes, 21 inches wide, with 5 inches in between them, comes to 21 2/3 feet. This leaves 8 1/3 feet width for the crew and computers and other systems, most of which can be taken up by the electronics. Engine systems, life support, and the recharging system can be mounted in the rear of the sub, behind the horizontal launch tubes. There is also no need for ballast, as this craft is more of an underwater airplane than anything. Yes, technology like that does exist, do a Google search for Deep Flight Aviator if you want to know more.

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My subs
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How much would it be for 20

More than you could afford.

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Sorry, I realized your right about the Diameter and launch capability of the tomahawk. I was operating from memory and I guess my memory betrayed me:)

But still how is this vessel able to achieve a 75knot speed of advance with almost no space devoted to engineering? Obviously you couldn't use a battery system, and a reactor would take up too much space. So I'm thinking a form of super cavitation using a liquid fuel (Similar to rocket torpedoes already in production in Russia). Germany and England experimented with high-test hydrogen peroxide as a fuel for a AIP sub (Air independant Propulsion) but the problems assosiated with the Hydrogen Peroxide exploding when it comes in contact with any contaminants were unsolvable. Even at 30 feet long and 30 feet wide the drag assosiated with so much surface area would require insane amounts of power...more than a conventional propeller could produce. As you increase speed the amount of power necessary increases exponentially. Even more problems with this design is the simple fact that speed is very difficult to control and the noise of the exhaust advertises the subs position a couple dozen miles away. You also have to consider that flow noise over the submarines hull at any speed over 20kts would make passive sonar useless...so how could the little bugger find its targets if it has a limited range, and a useless passive sonar set?

Certainly one could say that launching the mini-sub from a mother craft so it could take out targets without serious risk to the larger craft is a good idea. But the instant the mini-sub uses its propulsion system its oncovers itself and its mother ship. If it's forced to move at a slow speed due to limitations on passive sonar...wouldn't it just be better to send in the larger warship?

ASW helecopters/aircraft would still be able to keep up with the sub, and they could just position themselves in front of the mini-sub and fire torpedos. Moving at high speeds its unlikley the mini-sub would be able to even detect incomming torpedoes and conduct any evasive action. Or the ASW aircraft could simply follow the mini sub and wait until it stopped making noise (WHich would indicate that it docked with its mother ship or stopped/slowed down to listen)

I did check out the deep flight links and the speed of these craft seem to be limited to around 10-12 knots at most given the traditional limitations of lead-acid batteries.

Sorry, not trying to be a pest (LOL seems like it huh?) But this is a topic that holds my interest. I'd certainly be willing to purchase a few if you could describe the propulsion system.

Pwnica will order 5 Mantas.
2.625 billion (if I did my math correctly :roll: ) will be wired upon confirmation.

Signed,
Xavier Methnor, Prime Minister of Pwnica

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I'll take 50 please
Punk Mark

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There's no way you can afford 50. No possible way that a late sept. nation has ~25 billion dollars.

More than you could afford.

wrong, i'll take 20 money wired on confirmation it comes out to be $10,500,000,000 (which i have thx)

^ not including discount

Pwnica order confirmed, $2.625 billion is correct. Delivery will arrive Saturday morning RL.

Hugh Quake order confirmed, $525 million. Order will arrive tomorrow RL.

Magna, Punk Mark, you guys cannot afford that many subs.
Magna, 20 subs is something like 35% of your national budget if you're doing your budget realistically. Punk, 50 is like 150% of your budget.

OOC: Rohan, I increased the length by 15 feet and lowered the speed by 15 knots. It's only about 20 knots faster than a full sized sub\aircraft carrier now, and is slower than supercav systems. It also has more room in the back for powerplant and engine systems.

NOTE TO ALL: SeaWolf class attack subs now available in packages with Mantas!

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fine i'll take 5 UGM-109 Tomahawk and 5 of the Crusader Tracked Mobile Artillery System you do the math

Order confirmed. 5 Tomahawks comes to 3.75 million, 5 Crusaders comes to 56 million. Total bill of 59.75 million, will be shipped once money is wired.

How many Mantas can a Seawolf hold? (Sorry if it was stated, I missed it)

2, as seen in the picture, attached to the bow of the ship.

Good. We'll order 5 Seawolfs with Mantas. 7.5 billion wired.

Signed,
Xavier Methnor, Prime Minister of Pwnica

Order confirmed, delivery in 3 to 4 days RL.

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The Dictatorship of Shob would like to purchase 2 sea wolf subs, 10 tomahawks, and 20 crusaders Will wire money upon request

Order confirmed, bill is $2,431,500,000. Will arrive in 3 days RL, please wire money.

OOC: You realize you just spent like 90% of your military budget?

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We would like 2 of the subs that have the missles and 2 mini subs. Money wired upon acceptance. OOC- Our income is $268,726,000,000.

Order confirmed. Price is $2.85 billion, will arrive in 2 days RL.

Thank you and pleasure doing business.

President Kurlej

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The mother subs are currently unavailable, as we have not finished developing them though. They will be available in about 2 weeks RL, however. Do you still wish to place an order for 20 minisubs?
Yes, I would. I would also request that you inform us how to modify our submarines to carry these smaller ships. Please TM me with your answer. Thanks.

In the time since your request has made, development of the mother subs capable of holding the Mantas have been completed. If you look at the first page of posts, you can purchase the Mantas in packages with the mother subs.

money wired and thanks

Order shipped, should arrive tomorrow RL.

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From: United Empire of Rohan
TO: Great Mateo, Military Command
RE: Purchase of Seawolf-class submarine w/ mini-sub.

The propulsion modifications have been reviewed and deemed acceptable by UER military experts. At this time we wish to place an order for one (1) unit as a proof-of-concept trial afterwhich, if deemed complaint with our needs, will result in an order of 9 additional units over a 8 year time span.

525,000,000 Million has been wired to your international account and we eargerly await delivery.

Signed,

UER Unified Military Command.

Order confirmed, should arrive tomorrow RL.

10 Manta subs ( or minisubs or whatever the one that costs $525 million is)
money will be wired automaticly

Order confirmed, cost of $4,725,000,000. Should arrive in 3 days RL.

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The glorious military of Troy wishes to place an order of 20 Seawolf Class fast-attack submarines. Credits have been transferred already.

Lucius Marcus
-The Trojan Empire-

Trojan cannot purchase that many subs, as it would cost more than their entire national budget.

I think my national budget is a little more than 20 billion. :roll:

National Budget: $117,572,000,000

Troy will purchase eight Seawolves instead.

Lucius Marcus
-The Trojan Empire-

Order confirmed, cost of $8.8 billion. Delivery in 4 days RL.

OOC: Depending on what you're using as your fiscal year reset date, your budget could be less or more than what it is now. I myself use 21 days for a NS year. http://jpatt.net/files/toys/nscalc.html is a good site to determine your economy.

OOC: Temporarily, I'm going about every day equals six months. This way my military shall be ready in 30 more RL days. :D

IC: Troy wishes to make another preorder of 12 Seawolves, six to be acquired per year for the next two years.

Lucius Marcus
-The Trojan Empire-

OOC: That's a little fast. I've seen people using five days, but two? Yeesh. Your military equipment is going to exceed your population growth, you'll have stuff you won't be able to use for a long time.

IC: Order confirmed, 6 SeaWolf subs to be delivered in 3 days RL. Cost of $6.6 billion.

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1 Crusader Tracked Mobile Artillery System *money is wired*

Order confirmed, will arrive Saturday afternoon RL.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/ssn-21-DNSD9904059_JPG.jpg

SeaWolf class attack sub
Length 353 feet (107.6 meters)
Draft 35 feet (10.67 meters)
Beam 40 feet (12.2 meters)
Speed: 35 knots submerged, 20-25 knots tactical "silent" speed
Operating depth: 1600 feet
Armament: Armament eight 660-mm torpedo tubes OR 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles OR 50 Harpoon antiship missiles OR
50 torpedoes OR up to 100 mines OR any mix of the above. Comes with Mk. 50 torpedoes.
Crew 12 Officers; 121 Enlisted
Cost: 1.1 billion, $1.525 billion packaged with one Manta fast attack minisub (see below), $1.925 billion packaged with two Manta fast attack minisubs. 10% discount to regional allies, 10% discount on orders of 15 or greater. Discount does not double with large package orders.

The latest and greatest in attack subs. Designed to take out submarine and surface targets before they become threats to a larger fleet or area on land, this sub runs virtually silent up to 25 knots. With massive weapons stores and an 8 tube, double-deck torpedo room, it can simulataneously engage multiple threats. A reinforced hull and sail enable it to operate under ice caps.

http://i.timeinc.net/popsci/images/science/sci0403subs_A1.jpg

Length: 40 feet
Height: 9 feet
Width: 30 feet
Max speed with standard armament: 60 knots
Max Operating Depth: 700 feet (home sub may not go below this depth either, or the mini sub will be crushed)
Crew: 3
Combat Radius: 100 miles
Armament: 10 horizontal launch tubes, which can hold any tube launched weapon under 20 feet in length, including Mk. 48 and torpedo tube launched Tomahawk cruise missiles. Tubes can be simultaneously fired. No added storage. Comes with Mk. 50 torpedoes.
Cost: 525 million, 10% discount to regional allies, and 10% discount on orders of more than 10 or greater.

Deployed from a larger sub, this vessel's speed and ability to empty all of its weaponry at once makes it perfect for fast hit and run attacks on enemy coast lines. The high amount of noise it generates while operating does not matter in most cases, because its amazing speed enables it to outrun most torpedoes. In fact, this speedy ship is able to become completely airborne for a very brief moment when performing an emergency rise at full speed. Its short combat radius requires it to return to the "mother" sub or base very often for refueling, limiting it to fast attack and return missions, close quarters aid for battles with other subs, and close range coastal defense.

Submarine Weapons

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UGM-109 Tomahawk
Length: 18 feet 3 inches (5.56 meters); with booster: 20 feet 6 inches (6.25 meters)
Weight: 2,650 pounds (1192.5 kg); 3,200 pounds (1440 kg) with booster
Diameter: 20.4 inches (51.81 cm)
Wing Span (when deployed): 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 meters)
Range: Land attack, conventional warhead: 600 nautical miles
Speed: Approx. 550 mph
Warheads: Conventional 1000 lb high explosive warhead OR conventional munition bomblet dispenser OR 200 kiloton W-80 nuclear warhead. Comes with standard high explosive warhead.
Cost: $750,000. 10% discount to regional allies, 10% discount on orders of more than 200.

Launched from the sea via a torpedo tube, Vertical Launch System, or Armored Box Launcher, this highly destructive, highly accurate, and highly versatile missile has been the main land attack missile of the American navy for the last decade. It is also highly accurate, with only a handful of booster failures in its history, and a 90%+ strike success rate in both Iraq and Bosnia. Great addition to any navy.



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Crusader Tracked Mobile Artillery System

Weight: 39 tons, howitzer only. 97 tons with full ammo, fuel, armor, and resupply vehicle.
Speed: 66 kph on road, 48 kph off road.
Armor: 4 ton detachable composite reactive armor kit capable of deflecting most munitions under artillery size
Crew: 3 in howitzer, 3 in resupply vehicle
Armament: 155mm howitzer capable of delivering a variety of artillery shells. 12.62 mm machine gun mounted on left side of turret.
Shell Range: 50 kilometers
Rate of Fire: 10 rounds\minute for first 3 minutes, 6 rounds per minute sustained.
Stored Ammo: Howitzer-48 rounds. Resupply vehicle-110 rounds.
Resupply rate: 4 rounds\minute and 29.5 gallons of fuel\minute. Resupply vehicle can be completely restocked in just under an hour.
Cost: $11.2 million. 10% discount to regional allies and 10% discount on orders of more than 150 or greater.

The pinnacle of mobile artillery technology, the Crusader will remain a powerful weapon well into the 21st century. Faster, lighter, and with a heavier rate of fire than the Paladin mobile artillery system, the Crusader comes with a towed resupply vehicle that enables it to go for extended periods with no logistics support. Robotic transfer systems and automated computer systems allow a crew of only 3 men in each vehicle. Advanced fire control computers allow the Crusader to fire 8 consecutive shells at different angles and velocities, so that they may all impact at the same time. The Crusader system is light enough that two of them, one complete system, or two resupply vehicles, can be carried in one C-5 or C-17 cargo plane.

50 MINISUBS AND 30 BIG ONES

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SeaWolf class attack sub
Length 353 feet (107.6 meters)
Draft 35 feet (10.67 meters)
Beam 40 feet (12.2 meters)
Speed: 35 knots submerged, 20-25 knots tactical "silent" speed
Operating depth: 1600 feet
Armament: Armament eight 660-mm torpedo tubes OR 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles OR 50 Harpoon antiship missiles OR
50 torpedoes OR up to 100 mines OR any mix of the above. Comes with Mk. 50 torpedoes.
Crew 12 Officers; 121 Enlisted
Cost: 1.1 billion, $1.525 billion packaged with one Manta fast attack minisub (see below), $1.925 billion packaged with two Manta fast attack minisubs. 10% discount to regional allies, 10% discount on orders of 15 or greater. Discount does not double with large package orders.

The latest and greatest in attack subs. Designed to take out submarine and surface targets before they become threats to a larger fleet or area on land, this sub runs virtually silent up to 25 knots. With massive weapons stores and an 8 tube, double-deck torpedo room, it can simulataneously engage multiple threats. A reinforced hull and sail enable it to operate under ice caps.

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Length: 40 feet
Height: 9 feet
Width: 30 feet
Max speed with standard armament: 60 knots
Max Operating Depth: 700 feet (home sub may not go below this depth either, or the mini sub will be crushed)
Crew: 3
Combat Radius: 100 miles
Armament: 10 horizontal launch tubes, which can hold any tube launched weapon under 20 feet in length, including Mk. 48 and torpedo tube launched Tomahawk cruise missiles. Tubes can be simultaneously fired. No added storage. Comes with Mk. 50 torpedoes.
Cost: 525 million, 10% discount to regional allies, and 10% discount on orders of more than 10 or greater.

Deployed from a larger sub, this vessel's speed and ability to empty all of its weaponry at once makes it perfect for fast hit and run attacks on enemy coast lines. The high amount of noise it generates while operating does not matter in most cases, because its amazing speed enables it to outrun most torpedoes. In fact, this speedy ship is able to become completely airborne for a very brief moment when performing an emergency rise at full speed. Its short combat radius requires it to return to the "mother" sub or base very often for refueling, limiting it to fast attack and return missions, close quarters aid for battles with other subs, and close range coastal defense.

Submarine Weapons

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UGM-109 Tomahawk
Length: 18 feet 3 inches (5.56 meters); with booster: 20 feet 6 inches (6.25 meters)
Weight: 2,650 pounds (1192.5 kg); 3,200 pounds (1440 kg) with booster
Diameter: 20.4 inches (51.81 cm)
Wing Span (when deployed): 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 meters)
Range: Land attack, conventional warhead: 600 nautical miles
Speed: Approx. 550 mph
Warheads: Conventional 1000 lb high explosive warhead OR conventional munition bomblet dispenser OR 200 kiloton W-80 nuclear warhead. Comes with standard high explosive warhead.
Cost: $750,000. 10% discount to regional allies, 10% discount on orders of more than 200.

Launched from the sea via a torpedo tube, Vertical Launch System, or Armored Box Launcher, this highly destructive, highly accurate, and highly versatile missile has been the main land attack missile of the American navy for the last decade. It is also highly accurate, with only a handful of booster failures in its history, and a 90%+ strike success rate in both Iraq and Bosnia. Great addition to any navy.



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Crusader Tracked Mobile Artillery System

Weight: 39 tons, howitzer only. 97 tons with full ammo, fuel, armor, and resupply vehicle.
Speed: 66 kph on road, 48 kph off road.
Armor: 4 ton detachable composite reactive armor kit capable of deflecting most munitions under artillery size
Crew: 3 in howitzer, 3 in resupply vehicle
Armament: 155mm howitzer capable of delivering a variety of artillery shells. 12.62 mm machine gun mounted on left side of turret.
Shell Range: 50 kilometers
Rate of Fire: 10 rounds\minute for first 3 minutes, 6 rounds per minute sustained.
Stored Ammo: Howitzer-48 rounds. Resupply vehicle-110 rounds.
Resupply rate: 4 rounds\minute and 29.5 gallons of fuel\minute. Resupply vehicle can be completely restocked in just under an hour.
Cost: $11.2 million. 10% discount to regional allies and 10% discount on orders of more than 150 or greater.

The pinnacle of mobile artillery technology, the Crusader will remain a powerful weapon well into the 21st century. Faster, lighter, and with a heavier rate of fire than the Paladin mobile artillery system, the Crusader comes with a towed resupply vehicle that enables it to go for extended periods with no logistics support. Robotic transfer systems and automated computer systems allow a crew of only 3 men in each vehicle. Advanced fire control computers allow the Crusader to fire 8 consecutive shells at different angles and velocities, so that they may all impact at the same time. The Crusader system is light enough that two of them, one complete system, or two resupply vehicles, can be carried in one C-5 or C-17 cargo plane.

50 MINISUBS AND 30 BIG ONES :roll: :wink:

Can't afford it, dude.
:roll:

Yea, what he said. <stealth bump>

Bump.

I'd like 10 seawolfs
*money wired upon confirmation*

In the time since your request has made, development of the mother subs capable of holding the Mantas have been completed. If you look at the first page of posts, you can purchase the Mantas in packages with the mother subs.
Eeeh.. sorry for the long delay, been away. Yes, then, I would like to buy 20 mantas and the equivalent number of mother subs. many thanks.
MONEY WIRED
*BEEP*

We would like to order two, with all systems not related to the Manta removed. We'll add in our own systems later.

Camels, you can't afford that many.

Gurguvungunit order confirmed, cost of $27.45 billion. Order should arrive in 3-4 days RL.

Feline order confirmed, cost of $1.05 billion. Will arrive Sunday evening RL.

Camels, you can't afford that many.

Gurguvungunit order confirmed, cost of $27.45 billion. Order should arrive in 3-4 days RL.

Feline order confirmed, cost of $1.05 billion. Will arrive Sunday evening RL.
I was resurrected. my pop is 500 million. i can afford it

Sorry then. Cost of $11.1 billion, will be shipped once money is wired.

Also, to clarify, we want the ones packaged with two. If that will change the price, we will wire more money. If these prove satisfactory in service (as we suspect they will) we may order more.

We would like to purchase two subs for the purpose of training our new navy. We also need these subs fully loaded.

Money wired on confirmation

Matthew Nowaczewski
United States of Stapestry
President

We want 40 Seawolf subs with 2 mantas each.
We will pay you the money if you confirm.

OOC: Hey look an articulated vehicle! I was thinking of using articulated vehicles for a while then decided the added vulnerability wasn't worth it.

Feline, sorry for the miscommunication, I thought you were purchasing two minisubs. Total cost of two SeaWolf subs with two Mantas each will be $3.9 billion.

Stapestry, please clarify whether you wish to purchase Manta minisubs or SeaWolf class subs.

Flk order confirmed, 40 SeaWolf sub with two manta packages. $74.1 billion total cost.

OOC: The Crusader system isn't really one articulated vehicle, it's two vehicles with the second being towed by the first. They're only attached by anything other than a tow hook\cable during rearming.

wired

Will arrive in 4 days RL.

Additional money wired.

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(OOC) One question on the minisub...if you've got the first 20feet (of 40) taken up by torpedo tubes, then three crew members, how are you going to fit in an engine big enough to propell it at 60 knotts underwater (which is faster than any RL patrol boat)? I think you may need to extend the length of it by a fair bit.

(OOC) One question on the minisub...if you've got the first 20feet (of 40) taken up by torpedo tubes, then three crew members, how are you going to fit in an engine big enough to propell it at 60 knotts underwater (which is faster than any RL patrol boat)? I think you may need to extend the length of it by a fair bit.

You're forgetting width. The "wings" of the ship have all the tubes, enabling most of the rear of the body of the craft to be taken up by the engine, because crew spaces are small, and there are very few other systems involved.

The Plaxtonian navy is looking to aquire
30 Seawolf Class Submarines packaged with two Manta fast attack minisubs each
and 40 additional Manta Minsubs
The appropriate amount of capital shall be autonomously wired on confirmation.

Order confirmed. $74.475 billion, will arrive in 5-6 days RL.

(OOC) One question on the minisub...if you've got the first 20feet (of 40) taken up by torpedo tubes, then three crew members, how are you going to fit in an engine big enough to propell it at 60 knotts underwater (which is faster than any RL patrol boat)? I think you may need to extend the length of it by a fair bit.

You're forgetting width. The "wings" of the ship have all the tubes, enabling most of the rear of the body of the craft to be taken up by the engine, because crew spaces are small, and there are very few other systems involved.

Oh right, you said it was 30 feet wide, which seemed very badly shaped...Ill admit I'm still skeptical that it would actually move anywhere near that speed (as a rule of thumbn underwater larger = faster) but I'll keep quiet.

Bumpeth.

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Advertisement: One week from today, many, MANY new items available!

the armed republic of cyber fusion will buy:

2 Seawolf attack subs all w/ manta fast attack minisubs

money wired ($3,200,000,000)

the armed republic of cyber fusion will buy:

2 Seawolf attack subs all w/ manta fast attack minisubs

money wired ($3,200,000,000)

Order confirmed, will arrive tomorrow RL.

The Queendom of Lunarion would like to purchase two SeaWolf-class attack submarines, each with two Manta fast-attack minisubs. The cost of $4 billion USD will be wired to you immediately. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Gen. Nick Shaft
Minister of War
Army Chief of Staff
Lunarion

Order confirmed, will arrive tomorrow RL.

NOTE: First aircraft now available! B-1B Lancer long range bomber!

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We have found the two modified seawolf submarines extremely satisfactory, and we would like to order ten more, packaged with two mantas each.

We would, as before, like all the systems not related to the mantas removed so we may refit them with our own technology.

Ten two Manta packages comes to $20 billion even. Order will begin shipping once money is wired, will arrive 2-3 days RL from that time.

$20 Billion wired.

Bump.

20 Seawolf w/ 2 manta subs each plus 10 additional mantas.
*money is wired automaticaly on confirmation*

Cost of $45.75 billion. Will arrive in 3-4 days RL.

the armed republic of cyber fusion will buy:

1 of everything except for the jets and tanks
money wired upon confirmation

Cost of $1,625,750,000. Will arrive tomorrow RL.

ok thnk you

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We would like to purchase production rights for the B-1B Bomber, if possible.

We await your response.

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We would like to purchase production rights for the B-1B Bomber, if possible.

We await your response.

Sorry, productions right are not available for any of the items available.

I would like a sea wof, and a b1-b

Cost of 1.365 billion. Will be shipped once money is wired, will arrive 1 RL day from that time.

OOC: You realize you just spent a nice huge chunk of your military budget?

The Armed Republic of Boomness requests 5 b-1b's
Confirm order throguh telegram please
Thank You

TG sent.

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Ill take a sea wolf

I can't sell a 1 day old nation a second sub in as many days. Sorry.

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I'll take 15 Of the Seawolfs, however I want 60 of the minisubs, money will be wired upon confirmation.

15 SeaWolf with 2 Manta packages: $30 billion.
30 additional Manta class minisubs: $15.525 billion.

Total bill of 45.375 billion.

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I Tom Axe Sr. wishes to purchase the following
2 B-1B Lancer
15 SeaWolf class attack sub
10 Mini Subs
*Money Wired*

Tom Axe Sr.

Order confirmed. Cost of $32.53 billion.

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New system development complete! Available tomorrow!

Bump....though I suggest if you want anything wait a little bit so I may get the new systems up on the first page.

Phew. First section of major update complete! New sea systems now available! Ground, air, and other systems being added shortly!

2 CVN 77 modified Nimitz class aircraft carrier.
*Money Wired*
President Kurlej 1st term

Order confirmed, cost of $9 billion. Ships will arrive in 6-7 days RL, you may not purchase more aircraft carriers until at least 3 days RL after that.

Bump.

All new air systems added, amphibious and ground systems to be added next. This may take a while, though.

All updates completely finished! The storefront is now 5 times larger! Check out the new systems!

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1 Nimitz
15 Arleigh Burke Flight II
Money autowired
(resurrected, i can afford it)

We will purchase:

2x Seawolf SSNs
4x B-1B Lancers
50x Crusader SP artillery systems

3.82 billion wired on confirmation.

Arribastan order confirmed, total bill of $16.65 billion. Will arrive in 5-6 days RL.

Remiesia order confirmed, total bill of $3.2 billion. Will arrive in 2 days RL.

Bump.

We would also like to purchase 25 Peacekeeper ICBMs for a total of $1.875 billion dollars.

We understand that these are unloaded missiles.

Order confirmed. Delivery in 2 days RL.

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