NationStates Jolt Archive


Alert to Int'l Community

Unum Veritas
26-09-2003, 00:37
The Armed Republic of Unum Veritas will be commencing massive naval excercises for the following month. This training will server to better prepare the nation to enter the political/military stage in a more active way, and will include 20 dual-carrier battle groups. These workups are not meant to be seen as aggressive or dangerous to any nations, as Unum Veritas is a peaceful country.

These excercises will be conducted in international waters, away from the CDOM region, but also away from commercial shipping lanes. There are no major air traffic corridors in the immediate vicinity of the staging area, but airlines have been notified to keep clear of the "No-Fly Zone".

Most of the training will be done with practice ammunition only, but there will be some live-fire drills, so please keep any ships/subs/planes under your country's control away from the area.

Thank you for your cooperation.
Unum Veritas
26-09-2003, 01:00
And I guess no one really cares. Just thought I'd give everyone a warning so no innocent bystanders get hurt.
Pilot
26-09-2003, 01:08
The Free Market States of Pilot
Statement to Unum Veritas

Should any Pilot military equipment get damaged, or any lives lost as a result of your exercises, regardless of where they are taking place, it will preceed a strong response from our government.
Unum Veritas
26-09-2003, 01:47
The Int'l Community has been warned, there should be no need for any loss of civilian life; however our government will stand behind our pilots. It will not be there fault if some fool ignores the warnings and wanders into an all-out military excercise.
26-09-2003, 01:51
Your warnings have been headed by the branches of our military, and we thank you for issuing them.
26-09-2003, 01:55
Gradenkian Military have received your warnings. As per tandem with your warnings, We have suspended all operations (i.e patrols ) at waters near your exercise. We bid you all the best in your exercise.

General William Wallace,
Joint Chief of Staff,
Empire of Gradenk
Copiosa Scotia
26-09-2003, 01:59
Noted.
Unum Veritas
26-09-2003, 02:02
Thank-you all; we merely do not wish to see the loss of innocent life as a result of mere workups.
Indra Prime
26-09-2003, 02:16
Indra Prime Naval Vessels are ordered to stay out of the region so there is no threat of damage to our ships. How would you like a live opponent in Naval War games without live ammunition? Our Navy is getting restless for the most part.
Unum Veritas
26-09-2003, 02:24
As of now we are working just within our country; however we would be quite pleased to set up a future excercise with you. If youre bored now, then check out the "marcell launches another spy plane' thread...itll give your guys some excercise.
Indra Prime
26-09-2003, 02:28
We do need to practice against a worthy adversary. So Future excursions into naval war games and even possibly full scale war games are of an interest to our leaders. Currently we are closely monitoring a peace conference with more than our full 5th fleet so once that settles down then we would have no activities planned for our enormous fleet. We have built/ purchased/ obtained more than 50 carrier battle groups from around the world and most of them are just parked in the docks as most of the Sailors are off on extended R&R. So any activity would be wonderful.
Shildonia
26-09-2003, 02:29
An NR-157 has been dispatched to monitor the "excercises". It will remain in international airspace at all times. If you shoot it down, then don't blame us when the area starts glowing in the dark.
Kotterdam
26-09-2003, 04:17
Impressed with your performance against Marcell, the Dominion of Kotterdam would like to send observers to witness your exercise as a first step towards forming closer relations with your nation should your nation be so interested.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 00:05
Kotterdam, you're request is granted. We would be more than willing to allow some government officials to observe our excercises. Fostering long-lasting relationships is in the interests of both our countries.

Shildonia; first of all you don't nuke international waters because a peaceful excercise of a sovereign power shot down one of your spy planes. Second of all, the point of this was so that everyone would remove their airplanes/ships/subs from the area...not move them closer. It is unwise to move spy planes close to fighter pilots who are "in the zone" and looking for kills so that they'll have bragging rights.

Indra Prime, keep in contact with our government, and at some point in the future we will definitely schedule a war game...perhaps with multiple countries.
Shildonia
28-09-2003, 00:24
Shildonia; first of all you don't nuke international waters because a peaceful excercise of a sovereign power shot down one of your spy planes. Second of all, the point of this was so that everyone would remove their airplanes/ships/subs from the area...not move them closer. It is unwise to move spy planes close to fighter pilots who are "in the zone" and looking for kills so that they'll have bragging rights.


1. It's a nuclear powered plane. If you shoot it down, there will be radioactive debris everywhere.
2. These excercises aren't necesarily "peaceful".
3. If you did shoot it down in International Airspace, that would be a declaration of war, and those large concentrations of ships would look even more hostile than they do now, so we would be well within our limits to use our nuclear deterrent against your imperialistic and war mongering regime.

Kindly think before accusing passersby of trying to nuke you.
28-09-2003, 00:28
Neroland Nation Newscenter (NNN) report #1.

Today, a carriers smashed into a small fishing boat off the coast of Neroland. The fishermen are outraged.

Fisherman Bob: He killed my wife!
Fisherman Eric: That boat was private property!
Fisherman Fred: We lost a week of fish!

The Neroland Military Forces say they weren't involved in the incident, however they'll step up their patrols to reduce fishing accidents.

NN News, Neroland Coast, Signing off.
28-09-2003, 00:32
Due to these exersizes a Jono Land Cruise Ship was destroyed. It was ailing through before the captain had time to react it w as fired apon. The ship is destroyed and we are sending in 5 Iowa Class battleships to investigate. Also its carriers are on stand by.
Barbarosea
28-09-2003, 00:35
Anyone attacking UV because of any incindents, will be facing Barbarosea also.
28-09-2003, 00:36
Jono Land is not attacking anyone. The fact remains though that thousands of Jono Land citizens were killed,a nd we are sending in a light force to investigate!
The Resi Corporation
28-09-2003, 00:37
Neroland Nation Newscenter (NNN) report #1.

Today, a carriers smashed into a small fishing boat off the coast of Neroland. The fishermen are outraged.

Fisherman Bob: He killed my wife!
Fisherman Eric: That boat was private property!
Fisherman Fred: We lost a week of fish!

The Neroland Military Forces say they weren't involved in the incident, however they'll step up their patrols to reduce fishing accidents.

NN News, Neroland Coast, Signing off.It's interesting that a lake would have its own news network. Buuuut I guess everything does, nowadays.

Nerolands, you're a crater/lake, stay in character.
Barbarosea
28-09-2003, 00:39
Jono Land is not attacking anyone. The fact remains though that thousands of Jono Land citizens were killed,a nd we are sending in a light force to investigate!
That was not just pointed at you
McLeod03
28-09-2003, 00:39
Due to these exersizes a Jono Land Cruise Ship was destroyed. It was ailing through before the captain had time to react it w as fired apon. The ship is destroyed and we are sending in 5 Iowa Class battleships to investigate. Also its carriers are on stand by.

As the 5 Iowa class approach, the streamlined shape of the MSF Monitor can be seen cutting through the waves beneath them.

"Sir, we have 5 unescorted, outdated battleships on the surface, steaming towards the UV fleet. Should we take any action?" said Second Mate Harry Welton.

"No Harry, we'll sit back here and sink the Iowas if they dare to open fire. Weapons, load tubes 1 through 15 with Mk-110s. Get firing solutions for each ship, three tubes per ship." replied Jules Hilton, looking up from his paperwork spread across the arm of the Captains chair. "Then, we just sit back and watch"
28-09-2003, 00:40
Neroland Nation Newscenter #2.

We are not a crater or otherwise. Our country was rebuilt.

NN News, NEROLAND IS NOT A CRATER, Signing off (and on)
28-09-2003, 00:48
We only wish to find the surrvivors and request help in finding any!
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 00:52
Shildonia; first of all you don't nuke international waters because a peaceful excercise of a sovereign power shot down one of your spy planes. Second of all, the point of this was so that everyone would remove their airplanes/ships/subs from the area...not move them closer. It is unwise to move spy planes close to fighter pilots who are "in the zone" and looking for kills so that they'll have bragging rights.


1. It's a nuclear powered plane. If you shoot it down, there will be radioactive debris everywhere.
2. These excercises aren't necesarily "peaceful".
3. If you did shoot it down in International Airspace, that would be a declaration of war, and those large concentrations of ships would look even more hostile than they do now, so we would be well within our limits to use our nuclear deterrent against your imperialistic and war mongering regime.

Kindly think before accusing passersby of trying to nuke you.

I do believe threatening to make things "glow in the dark" would be a reference to nuclear war. These excercises are peaceful. It would not be shot down intentionally, but sending spy planes to spy on fully appropriate naval excercises isn't prudent...much less smart. Neither are we imperialistic or war mongering, we are merely training. Your personal attacks are duly noted and definitely not calculated to please us.
The Resi Corporation
28-09-2003, 00:53
Neroland Nation Newscenter #2.

We are not a crater or otherwise. Our country was rebuilt.

NN News, NEROLAND IS NOT A CRATER, Signing off (and on)"Interesting. The bubbles claim that they rebuilt their country underwater, even though they are annexed by us. Ms Kradii?"
"Yes, Jai?"
"Boil the water with our ortillary."
"Yes, Jai."

A giant beam fires down from space, heating up the water in Lake Nerolands to a rolling boil. Several minutes later, the bombardment stops and several thousand mutant fish and a couple of merfolk float to the top of the water, completely fried.

Well, Nerolands, looks like your country has been killed AGAIN.
28-09-2003, 00:54
To find any survivors from the cruise ship. The planes are flying over the ships last stated position
28-09-2003, 00:55
NNN Newas center... blah blah blah

U missed. U hit the lake, not the city.

NNN News, U MISSED THE CITY, Signing off (and on)
McLeod03
28-09-2003, 00:56
We only wish to find the surrvivors and request help in finding any!

OOC: By sending 5 heavily amred warships into the area? Yeah, not at all hostile.

IC: On seei nghte wreckage of the cruise liner, the Monitor launches a sole Raptor sub-fighter to sweep the area for survivors. and readies a Typhoon transport to pick them up again.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 00:57
First of all Jono Lands and Nerolands, you cannot RP that my ships caused any damage to your own w/o me first stating that they hit something or fired upon something. Also, if your ships were still in the area after my warnings (now two days old in RL) then it was your own fault. Second of all, I would suggest you return your battleships to their original courses before they encounter 20 (I believe that's the number) fully formed dual-carrier battle groups, along with countless jet fighters in the air. The excercise area is crowded and confused enough without having 5 outdated battleships belonging to a foreign power in the area.

Barbarosea, we thank you for your support.
28-09-2003, 00:57
5 Soyuz III class battleships to help the Iowa class battleships with finding survivors. 10 L.A. class subs have also been deployed to look for boddies on the ocean floor. All units deployed are armed in full.
28-09-2003, 00:59
in finding surrvivors. The reason of the heavy deployment is beacause they were closest to the area. We will charge ten million dollars in damages for every person killed. Already we have found 1000 boddies
McLeod03
28-09-2003, 01:00
OOC: UV, mind if i help deal with these outdated Jono Land systems?
28-09-2003, 01:01
untill all bodies, and survivors are uncovered. Now u sunk our ship in international waters. We have the right to stay in the regon. Please pay the fee.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:01
5 Soyuz III class battleships to help the Iowa class battleships with finding survivors. 10 L.A. class subs have also been deployed to look for boddies on the ocean floor. All units deployed are armed in full.

Puts hand on Jono Land's forehead....are you feeling okay? You're a September nation who's moving a few subs and five outdated battleships to a highly volatile excercise area with 20 complete dual-carrier battle groups, not to mention RPing that my ships attacked things w/o my consent. Are you just looking for trouble?
28-09-2003, 01:03
Mayday! I'm going down im an F-15 pilot I've lost controll. Oh shit thats a carrier im going down sry. To every one I hope this doesn't start a war. No response I'm ejecting!

With that an F-15 crashed into a foreign carrier. Fulll apologies from Jono land
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:07
OOC: UV, mind if i help deal with these outdated Jono Land systems?

Be my guest....between the two of us, this could be fun.

IC- Over the int'l guard channel, Commodore Halsey called,
"Jono Land craft, this is the UVS Mystere, please stand down immediately. If your ships continue in their current path they will be viewed as aggressors and will be dealt with accordingly."

Even as he spoke, two flights of F-22 Sea Raptors and a flight of X-29's were vectored towards the incoming ships by an airborne E2-C Hawkeye. The 20 battle groups (over 5,000 seacraft) come to a halt and take up defensive postures. All AEGIS ships have their SPY radars running at full blast (the radar waves are enough to cause any nearby birds to be born with four wings for the next few generations) forming a protective "bubble" around the ships. Perry Class ASW frigates take forward positions and the cruise missile-equiped destroyers begin picking targets.
Shildonia
28-09-2003, 01:08
I do believe threatening to make things "glow in the dark" would be a reference to nuclear war. These excercises are peaceful. It would not be shot down intentionally, but sending spy planes to spy on fully appropriate naval excercises isn't prudent...much less smart. Neither are we imperialistic or war mongering, we are merely training. Your personal attacks are duly noted and definitely not calculated to please us.

1. It wasn't a threat, it was merely a statement of fact. If our plane is shot down, the reactor will explode, and there will be debris everywhere. That debris will be heavily radioactive. Radiation makes things glow in the dark.
2. Perhaps you should excercise better restraint on the members of your armed forces if they make it a habit of shooting down passing aircraft in International Airspace.
3. We refute the allegations of spying. We are merely observing your increasingly rapacious actions.
4. Training for what? War? Sounds a bit aggressive to us, especially excercises on this scale, coupled with the bellicose and gung-ho attitude expressed to passersby.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:08
Mayday! I'm going down im an F-15 pilot I've lost controll. Oh shit thats a carrier im going down sry. To every one I hope this doesn't start a war. No response I'm ejecting!

With that an F-15 crashed into a foreign carrier. Fulll apologies from Jono land

Jono Land, first of all I'm just going to let the fact that someone how you snuck an F-15 into my inner sanctums and go with this.

20 sailors were lost in this "accident" as well as damage to the flight deck of a Veritasean carrier. The Armed Republic of Unum Veritas requires that Jono Land make full monetary amends and demands that they remove their ships from the excercise area.
28-09-2003, 01:09
I am in International Waters and this would be disgusting if a ship was sunk looking for survivors in international waters. But the ships will stop if u promise to send a carrier group to look for survivors the 400 F-15s will stay!
28-09-2003, 01:09
How much will it cost!
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:10
I do believe threatening to make things "glow in the dark" would be a reference to nuclear war. These excercises are peaceful. It would not be shot down intentionally, but sending spy planes to spy on fully appropriate naval excercises isn't prudent...much less smart. Neither are we imperialistic or war mongering, we are merely training. Your personal attacks are duly noted and definitely not calculated to please us.

1. It wasn't a threat, it was merely a statement of fact. If our plane is shot down, the reactor will explode, and there will be debris everywhere. That debris will be heavily radioactive. Radiation makes things glow in the dark.
2. Perhaps you should excercise better restraint on the members of your armed forces if they make it a habit of shooting down passing aircraft in International Airspace.
3. We refute the allegations of spying. We are merely observing your increasingly rapacious actions.
4. Training for what? War? Sounds a bit aggressive to us, especially excercises on this scale, coupled with the bellicose and gung-ho attitude expressed to passersby.

Shildonia, the RP has progressed so there's no point in continuing this. You can think us aggressive or war mongering all you want, but training is merely training.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:11
How much will it cost!

$1 million USD to the families of all 20 sailors as well as $20 million USD for repairs to the carrier. Your ships must stand down immediately. Our carriers have gone to DefCon1 and will see any advancing ship as a threat and act accordingly.
McLeod03
28-09-2003, 01:11
OOC: Heheheh

IC: "COmms, send this to the Jono Lad Fleet" said Hilton t his Comms operator.

<Message>

TO: Jono Land Fleet Commadner
FROM: MSF Monitor

Recommend you stand down immediately. Failure to do so will lead to hostilities between our nations.


<End of Message>

The Monitor slowed, and lined herself up on the five Iowa battleships. She drifted to a halt, then flooded tubes 1 through 15.
28-09-2003, 01:11
Jono Land will pull out all forces and will pay for the carrier. More you will pay 10 million for evry person killed, and you will send a carrier group to look for surrvivors.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:13
Jono Land, you are in no position for bargaining. You CANNOT RP my ships firing upon a cruise ship. I have to RP that. And if you do not want complete and utter military actions taken against your country then have your ships and planes leave the area and make no further requests.
Mef
28-09-2003, 01:13
Jono Land will pull out all forces and will pay for the carrier. More you will pay 10 million for evry person killed, and you will send a carrier group to look for surrvivors.
ooc: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't think he's gonna do it, or you can make him do it.
Shildonia
28-09-2003, 01:14
I do believe threatening to make things "glow in the dark" would be a reference to nuclear war. These excercises are peaceful. It would not be shot down intentionally, but sending spy planes to spy on fully appropriate naval excercises isn't prudent...much less smart. Neither are we imperialistic or war mongering, we are merely training. Your personal attacks are duly noted and definitely not calculated to please us.

1. It wasn't a threat, it was merely a statement of fact. If our plane is shot down, the reactor will explode, and there will be debris everywhere. That debris will be heavily radioactive. Radiation makes things glow in the dark.
2. Perhaps you should excercise better restraint on the members of your armed forces if they make it a habit of shooting down passing aircraft in International Airspace.
3. We refute the allegations of spying. We are merely observing your increasingly rapacious actions.
4. Training for what? War? Sounds a bit aggressive to us, especially excercises on this scale, coupled with the bellicose and gung-ho attitude expressed to passersby.

OMG. J00 have clearleh out argued meh. I 1gn0r3 j00
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:16
I do believe threatening to make things "glow in the dark" would be a reference to nuclear war. These excercises are peaceful. It would not be shot down intentionally, but sending spy planes to spy on fully appropriate naval excercises isn't prudent...much less smart. Neither are we imperialistic or war mongering, we are merely training. Your personal attacks are duly noted and definitely not calculated to please us.

1. It wasn't a threat, it was merely a statement of fact. If our plane is shot down, the reactor will explode, and there will be debris everywhere. That debris will be heavily radioactive. Radiation makes things glow in the dark.
2. Perhaps you should excercise better restraint on the members of your armed forces if they make it a habit of shooting down passing aircraft in International Airspace.
3. We refute the allegations of spying. We are merely observing your increasingly rapacious actions.
4. Training for what? War? Sounds a bit aggressive to us, especially excercises on this scale, coupled with the bellicose and gung-ho attitude expressed to passersby.

OMG. J00 have clearleh out argued meh. I 1gn0r3 j00

WTF? Don't change my quotes. I just don't have the time to debate you on this (nor the energy) because I'm dealing with Jono Land (a n00b). But if you want to to think you won, then that's fine with me.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:16
Jono Land will pull out all forces and will pay for the carrier. More you will pay 10 million for evry person killed, and you will send a carrier group to look for surrvivors.
ooc: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't think he's gonna do it, or you can make him do it.

Oh how correct you are.
Barbarosea
28-09-2003, 01:23
Barbarosea Military Channel
Barbarosean offical, Genreal Doug McCower, turns on the mic and begins...
"Good Evining, today while Unum Veritas was peacefully training soldiers, 2 countries have threatened them while one has attacked them. I have cleared it with Fredrick Barbarosea Jr. to allow 2 Barbarosean Standard fleets to go out and make a radius around the training grounds to stop any other riff-raff. That is all"

OOC:
One Barbarosea Standard Fleet
1 Nimizt Carrier
3 Ticonderoga Missile Cruisers
3 Arleigh Burke Missile Destroyers
4 Oliver Hazard Perry All Purpose Frigates
3 Nuclear Powered Attack Submarines
3 PT-B boats
1 AAAS
1 Skiving Class AEGIS Destroyer
1 Iowa Class Battleship
Kotterdam
28-09-2003, 01:25
Kotterdam, you're request is granted. We would be more than willing to allow some government officials to observe our excercises. Fostering long-lasting relationships is in the interests of both our countries.

Unum Veritas, I am quite happy with this arangement, and extend a similar invitation to the next large-scale exercise we hold. As the troops currently engaged in combat were the next ones on the training rotation, it will take some time before we are able to hold such an exercise.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:25
Barbarosea, your support is greatly appreciated. We are currently awaiting Jono Land's response through diplomatic channels (the other guy seems to have pulled out of this RP). If Jono removes his ships and ceases annoying us then everything will be cool, if not then you can join with us and your troops (as well as ours and McLeod03's) shall receive some "real-life training". 8)
28-09-2003, 01:26
Will pull out as of now with no charge if u send a carrier group to look for survivors. Is that too much to ask. We did not say u fired apon it. We just said it got destroyed in th emiddle of your exersize
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:26
Kotterdam, you're request is granted. We would be more than willing to allow some government officials to observe our excercises. Fostering long-lasting relationships is in the interests of both our countries.

Unum Veritas, I am quite happy with this arangement, and extend a similar invitation to the next large-scale exercise we hold. As the troops currently engaged in combat were the next ones on the training rotation, it will take some time before we are able to hold such an exercise.

Very good very good. Just telegram me the time of your next major training excercise and we'll work out the details. We thank-you for your willingness to increase the goodwill of our two nations.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:28
Will pull out as of now with no charge if u send a carrier group to look for survivors. Is that too much to ask. We did not say u fired apon it. We just said it got destroyed in th emiddle of your exersize

Jono Land, we still request you pay for our sailors and damages to our carrier, however we will commence rescue operations to look for the survivors. Our ships will stand down to give yours the chance to remove from the area. Our S&R helos will be up within the hour.
28-09-2003, 01:29
We are in international waters looking for survivors. Is that hostilites?
28-09-2003, 01:30
10 million in total damages to your carrier and the soldiers. It was not on purpose
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:31
If it is battleships and attack submarines doing the "looking" then yes it is. If you'd like to send in some Coast Guard cutters or S&R craft to look then that is fine. Ships of war would just lead to more accidents (such as the F-15 case). Our own helos are already lifting off to search for survivors. Do you request any other assisstance?
28-09-2003, 01:32
Our ships ahve pulled out of your exersize area, but the planes remain until u ok our agreement. We wish u send the surrvivors to Jono land
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:34
10 million in total damages to your carrier and the soldiers. It was not on purpose

It will cost $20 million alone to repair the carrier's flight deck! It matters not whether it was on purpose or not, your government must make full amends.

OOC-For your future RPing, you cannot have 500 F-15's materialize out of thin air, and somehow have at least one get all the way through 300 AEGIS destroyers with their radars on, not to mention countless Hawkeyes and fighter jets, to hit a carrier (which is almost always at the center of a battle formation, and inside all of the protection).
28-09-2003, 01:34
We have no cutters. And the ships were the closest ones all our other ships do not have that range. The ships were also considering lifting the ship from the sea. We request no more asistance but demand u say we committed no hostilites.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:35
Our ships ahve pulled out of your exersize area, but the planes remain until u ok our agreement. We wish u send the surrvivors to Jono land

Your planes cannot just stay. You have no carrier or tanker support. Soon they will run out of fuel and crash, or be forced to return to whatever base they materialized from. Of course the survivors will be sent wherever they please, but your planes can't just magically stay up for days on end.
28-09-2003, 01:36
we will pay 40 million. They were not mattirialized we announced erlier we were sending them in and u did nothing. Once u say we commited no hostilites we will pull out in full.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:37
We have no cutters. And the ships were the closest ones all our other ships do not have that range. The ships were also considering lifting the ship from the sea. We request no more asistance but demand u say we committed no hostilites.

"Demand" is a harsh word (in diplomatic terms) for a Sept. nation facing down 20 dual-carrier battle groups with 5 outdated battleships and 500 magic F-15's. We never said you committed hostilities, just that your actions could be seen as hostile (which, in all honesty, they could be).
28-09-2003, 01:37
they are based on 4 nimitzs that are right outside the combat zone they refuel in shifts. So you must announce that we commited no hostilites!
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:38
we will pay 40 million. They were not mattirialized we announced erlier we were sending them in and u did nothing. Once u say we commited no hostilites we will pull out in full.

I know when you announced that...but where did they fly in from? So long as the $40 million is paid, then we will recognize that it was all a tragic misunderstanding between our two nations and wish for this tension to ease.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:38
they are based on 4 nimitzs that are right outside the combat zone they refuel in shifts. So you must announce that we commited no hostilites!

For future reference, F-15's are not usually carrier-based aircraft, and you never mentioned the presence of four aircraft carriers (quite a large number for a brand new nation).
28-09-2003, 01:39
now these did not come out of thin air. We apologize in full but it was a rescue operation. We bought the F-15s fair and square. So pleasse explain how our actions were hostile.
28-09-2003, 01:40
i posted a thread asking for carrier aircraft and this guy sold us these F-15c the nimitzs were also bought fair and square if u want we're give u the link.
Kotterdam
28-09-2003, 01:41
Very good very good. Just telegram me the time of your next major training excercise and we'll work out the details. We thank-you for your willingness to increase the goodwill of our two nations.

In my country, we have a saying. "Between friendship and emnity, always bet on friendship, for it will accomplish things emnity never could." We have much to learn from one another, and the benefits of such a friendship would be great to all involved. My observers are ready to join your exercise.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:41
They could be seen as hostile. That was all we said. Also, fighter jets and battleships don't exactly make for very good search and rescue craft. You're actions were not intentionally hostile, but being viewed by naval warships running extensive excercises, could be construed that way.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:44
Very good very good. Just telegram me the time of your next major training excercise and we'll work out the details. We thank-you for your willingness to increase the goodwill of our two nations.

In my country, we have a saying. "Between friendship and emnity, always bet on friendship, for it will accomplish things emnity never could." We have much to learn from one another, and the benefits of such a friendship would be great to all involved. My observers are ready to join your exercise.

Those are very admirable sentiments. The excercise will be getting back under way as soon as rescue operations have been completed and Jono Land's forces have vacated the area. The excercise will be a standard 10 battle groups vs. 10 battle groups. Red Team playing the attacker and Blue Team playing the defender. Have your observers jet to the Veritasean capital of Ingonyama. They will be ferried from there to the UVS Mystere, the command ship of Red Team.
Kotterdam
28-09-2003, 01:49
Unum Veritas, one of our carrier battlegroups was diverted to the area to transfer our observers via COD aircraft. Do you require support?
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:50
Not at all, it seems that the situation has defused, although we thank you for your support.
Kotterdam
28-09-2003, 01:55
Glad to see cooler heads prevail. After transfer, we will return to our original patrol pattern.
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 01:57
Alrighty. I'm still trying to decide if I'm actually going to RP the excercise or just leave it unspoken, any ideas?
Indra Prime
28-09-2003, 09:29
If you have someone to fight against, it would give you a good opportunity to test your RP skills, and it would be more interesting.
28-09-2003, 10:07
OOC: A B-2 HAOP (High Altitude Observation Plane) is being readied to take off over Unum Veritas's exercise, to see his strength.

Of course, you shouldnt know this IC.
Barbarosea
28-09-2003, 13:35
OOC: I don't know that, but I still have radars.

IC:
As the boring-ness of this job wore on, finally a bing showed up.
"Sir, incoming aircraft."
"What type is it?"
"Um.....can't tell, it's moving too slow to be a fighter."
"Probably a cargo plane, can you establish raido contact?"
"I can try."
"Ok."

Raido Connection, ch 158

*static*...Please turn back...*static*...is doing training...*static*...anyone flying overh...*static*...will fire...*static*
End transmission
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 18:44
If you have someone to fight against, it would give you a good opportunity to test your RP skills, and it would be more interesting.

You've got a point. Would you like to go ahead and do that joint-training excercise? Perhaps 5 battle groups vs. 5 battle groups? Or larger? Its up to you.

Also, Freedom Country, although spy planes are hard to spot on radar (by their very nature), when you have nearly 300 AEGIS destroyers, all with SPY radars operating 24/7, it can be spotted (and that's not even counting the airborne early-warning aircraft such as Hawkeyes).
28-09-2003, 19:14
THANX 4 WARININ US UNUM
Unum Veritas
28-09-2003, 19:45
THANX 4 WARININ US UNUM

Anytime...lol
Indra Prime
29-09-2003, 06:38
Five CBGs would be just fine. How large are your CBGs? This is the breakdown of one of our Carrier Battle Groups. Ours are moderately large in size With Three Carriers (two of the Defiant Class, one of the Texas Class) Our Texas Class Carriers are our Command Battle Carrier Designed for long term, extreme range operations and holds 50% more than the Defiant Class Carriers. With these ships are 6 Battleships, 8 Destroyers, 4 Da Vinci Class Refueling Tankers, 5 Aegis Type AA Ships and 10 Amphibious Landing Attack Craft (which we will leave at port). All our craft will use non lethal rounds of your choice. We will need some way to determine hits. If this is too large
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 23:21
My battle groups are dual carrier battle groups. A run down of the numbers and total air wings for the group is below. Most of the specs can be found at my store thread (link also below). We can use an adapted version of the IVIS system to score hits. It uses laser designators to do so (not quite sure how, but its used in RL I believe).

2 Hover Carriers
4 Minesweepers
1 Command Ship
100 Hovercraft Troop Transports
2 Hospital Ships
12 Los Angeles Class Attack Subs
70 Hover Attack Boats
5 Hovercraft Transport Ships
2 Amphibious Assault Ships
15 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Class Destroyers
6 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
8 Replenishment Vessels
4 Iowa Class Battleships

Aerial Assets:
40 X-29's
60 F-22 Sea Raptors
10 AC-150 Tankers
10 E2-C Hawkeyes
20 Sea Kings VIP/ASW Helos
40 F-14 Tomcats
20 F/A-18 Super Hornets

Specs at: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=655745#655745
Indra Prime
29-09-2003, 23:30
We will have to add a few ships to equalize the support ship amounts but other than that 5v5 sounds just about right.
Barbarosea
30-09-2003, 01:34
We'll keep everyone else (that's not permitted) out. Have fun
Indra Prime
30-09-2003, 02:54
Thank you Barbarosa.
Barbarosea
30-09-2003, 03:42
Thank you Barbarosa.
no problem
Unum Veritas
01-10-2003, 23:49
Alrighty. I'll pull out fifteen of my groups and leave 5. The remaining 5 are now officially known as Task Force Pride. The ships leaving the area will return to their home ports for overhaul, and then resume their usual patrol patterns. Replinishment planes will reload Pride with practice munitions and will bring computer techies to synchronize the laser wavelengths for the kill-designators. Task Force Pride can either be the aggressor or the defender, its your choice Indra Prime.
Indra Prime
02-10-2003, 00:29
We have enhanced each of our fleets to include two hospital ships, three antimine vessels, and 15 Omega Class Attack subs, and 3 Theta class stealth catterpillar missile support subs. Our Theta class subs are usually amed with a full compliment of nuclear ICBMs which we have removed and loaded ICBMs with our special practice missiles. These numbers are per fleet and we have five CBGs en route. All our ships are armed with practice rounds created in the Indra Prime testing labs. They are made out of aerogel and dyes to show a hit. They are also fit with a biodegradable transponder that records hits and transmits them to the battle monitoring station. We are bringing the CPUs onboard one of our ships, the IPDS Indbar so that can serve as a monitoring station for both our sides it will arrive in your waters in 18 Hours. As for the sides, we would like to practice our assault techniques against both land and sea targets. We would be happy to take the agressor position if that would work for you.
Unum Veritas
04-10-2003, 14:49
Task Force Pride has been ordered to assume a defensive position. Attack discretion has been granted to the Force's commanding officer, Commodore Thale, and the ships are currently weapons-free.

OOC-You can't know this IC, but my ships are arranged in two groups, with about 20 nautical miles in between. At the center of each group are the carriers, and outside of those are the AEGIS destroyers (half of the destroyers in each group are running their SPY radars at all times). Outside of the destroyer screen are the minesweepers, ASW frigates, etc. The replinishment ships are behind the carriers, but within the destroyer screen. I'm not telling where my subs are just yet, but suffice it to say that they tend to be rather "aggressive" :wink: . I have a standing CAP of a minimum of 10 jets over each group, with at least 5 per group ready to launch with 5 minutes notice.
Indra Prime
05-10-2003, 04:19
The IPDS Indbar is achored off the coast and all relevant data ports are active. She is ready to recieve combat data from both sides. So without further ado we will begin this operation. IP Task Force Incursion (our fleet that is to invade your land) will begin its movements within the next 48 hours (giving it some variability so to keep you on your toes).

OOC: My ships are in an offensive pattern spread out in three smaller Battle Groups With the Bulk of the Carriers in two groups that are approx. 40 naut. mi. apart. The Third Battle group is coming in from a different trajectory with the bulk of the subs. All have their version of defenses, the Carriers and battleships all have their destroyer escorts and Aegis Cruisers defending their areas.

Our Primary target will be the central Naval Command Station of yours and the Primary Military Targets most nations are after (ie CnC's Residence and the Base to your military operations) So those are our three targets. plus any ships we "destroy".

I wish you well Commander. Whether we win or lose, we will both learn valuable defensive/offensive tactics to use when the rounds become real in other conflicts.
Unum Veritas
05-10-2003, 18:19
So let me get this straight: you're ships are attempting to "invade" my country and mine are supposed to stop them? If so then we won't be using my actual mainland, but instead a medium-sized island that is government owned and uninhabited. There are skeleton buildings on it to simulate major installations for you to target. My ships will now take up aggressive-defensive positions around this island and the games shall begin. (I'll make a longer, more detailed RP post in an hour or so).
Indra Prime
05-10-2003, 19:05
Exactly right. We need to test our offensive capabilities with a limited fleet. We need to see if we would be victorious with a small flotilla.
Unum Veritas
05-10-2003, 21:03
OOC-F.Y.I.-my naval aviation detachments have changed somewhat, now each battle group has the following aircraft:
Aerial Assets:
40 X-29's
20 F-117 Nighthawks (CTOL Version)
40 F-22 Sea Raptors
10 AC-150 Tankers
10 E2-C Hawkeyes
20 Sea Kings VIP/ASW Helos
40 F-14 Ultra Tomcats
20 F/A-18 Super Hornets


IC-Task Force Pride began taking up defensive positions surrounding the Isle of Bartoule. Recon planes have been sent out to try and determine the "enemy" positions, while all of the amphibious assault ships have landed their marine detachments aboard the isle, in the event of a full scale invasion (OOC-they are armed with paintball guns, hehehehe). Radars are running full-blast, and the air is thick with fighters. The brand-new F-14E Ultra Tomcats are being used for the first time by the Unum Veritas navy, and expectations are high. The Los Angeles Class attack subs that have been sent forward in an intel-gathering/ambush mode are approaching what appears to be a medium-sized battle group, but have paused to await further instructions. Recon aircraft have been vectored in that direction, and a flight of F-22 Sea Raptors has been sent forward to see what they can find.

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-George Orwell
Unum Veritas
05-10-2003, 22:23
The marines have finished constructing their semi-permanent barracks. Mobile SAM units have been set up surrounding each, and jet fighters are always within 1 minute of each base. The amphibious assault ships, having deposited their equipment, and marines, have pulled away from the excercise area and will remain so, unless they are needed for an emergency evac (consider them out of the game). The SPY radars are now all fully operational, and the carrier flight operations are in full swing. Land-based radars are being coordinated with the "take" from airborne Hawkeyes, as well as the sea-based radars, but so far nothing has shown up on the scope. The forward screen of attack subs have been issued classified orders, and will act upon them shortly.
Indra Prime
07-10-2003, 22:59
***Emergency Action Message***

Unknown Fleet has been detected entering the waters of Unum Veritas. Current strengths are unknown. Current total numbers of fleet are unknown. Sonar has picked up subs but no identification as of yet. Numbers of subs unknown. Intentions of fleet unknown. Appear to be battle ready.

Authorized to intercept. Verification Code: ABBHCDA
Indra Prime
07-10-2003, 23:07
Indra Prime
07-10-2003, 23:07
As the Indra Prime Ships of the line prepare for war, the fleet was getting in battle ready condition. Subsidiary ships were being fueled, and the aircraft wings were armed to the teeth. The flight deck of the IPS Newton, the Texas Class Carrier in command of the third fleet, was bustling with the activities of the crew trying to prepare for the invasion of Unum Veritas. Intelligence had put a target on them earlier this month as being responsible for the increased threats against Indra Prime. Command had decided to nip it in the bud. They had given full clearance to use any and all means to destroy the command centers that were the control centers for the terrorist attack threats. So the captain gave to order. Full steam ahead. Go to DEFCON 2. We are starting this war and finishing it.
Unum Veritas
07-10-2003, 23:27
OOC-I sincercely hope all of this "background" info is just for your troops to play better in the war game. Also, you aren't invading my country's mainland....just an uninhabited island. This: bustling with the activities of the crew trying to prepare for the invasion of Unum Veritas. Intelligence had put a target on them earlier this month as being responsible for the increased threats against Indra Prime. Command had decided to nip it in the bud. They had given full clearance to use any and all means to destroy the command centers that were the control centers for the terrorist attack threats. is making me nervous...
Unum Veritas
07-10-2003, 23:45
As a result of some ELINT intercepts, several of the battle groups patrolling the CDOM region have increased their alert status, just in case Indra Prime has non-peaceful intentions (OOC-I truly hope this isn't the case, and that I'm just misreading your posts). Other than that, the excercise is continuing as planned. UVS Mystere, a Los Angeles Class attack sub, as well as the other attack subs working with it have closed in on one of Indra Prime's battle groups and are currently in firing position. So far indications are that Mystere has not been identified. A flight of X-29's has made visual contact with yet another of Indra's battle groups, but intel indicates there is another, undiscovered, convoy of ships in the area...

"Commodore, we're receiving SPRINT traffic from Mystere; "In position, awaiting 'go' order," a young communications officer said.

"Very well, send this reply, 'Execute Operation Deep Drive'," Commodore Prasine said.

A pause, while the officer typed frantically on his keyboard, and then the reply, "Mystere and the other subs copy. They'll execute immediately."

"Very well, we shall see who the better gamesman is," was the commodore's reply.

A few minutes later, sonar operators reported multiple torpedoes (the practice sort, of course) in the water, all heading towards the Indra battle group that the attack subs had targeted. When the final data was collected, 20 torpedoes had been fired at 15 ships, including two carriers. The subs then proceeded with their operation orders, and sped from the scene of the attack and then froze, drifting to the lowest spot on the sea they could find.

The second part of Operation Deep Drive was just beginning, as an airborne E2-C Hawkeye vectored a flight of 6 F-117 Nighthawks (new CTOL version), with the protection of 5 F-14E Ultra Tomcats, towards the second Indra Prime battle group. Each of the Nighthawks was equipped with 6 Brahmos long-range, anti-ship missiles (a supersonic missile, for details see my store thread). Once the missiles were within range, the Nighthawks fired them and immediately returned to the safety of the SPY radar screen. The 5 Ultra Tomcats and the Hawkeye remained just behind the bombers, to cover their retreat.
Unum Veritas
08-10-2003, 01:19
***All munitions used in this excercise are merely practice versions of the actual weapon. They can do no damage-they merely simulate it.
08-10-2003, 01:57
Well if ANY of your troops enter my water territory or shoot into it then my country will take evassive actions which contain but are not limited to destroying all your troops, :D nuking your country :D , or going to war.



Dictator
The Red Bat
Dragonia
Unum Veritas
08-10-2003, 02:00
Well if ANY of your troops enter my water territory or shoot into it then my country will take evassive actions which contain but are not limited to destroying all your troops, :D nuking your country :D , or going to war.



Dictator
The Red Bat
Dragonia

Once I pick myself up off of the floor from rolling on it while laughing, then I shall address this "threat". *picks self up, while clutching stich in side*

This has evolved into a war game and is being held in the waters off of my own country so you are not threatened at all. But, just so you know, you would stand absolutely no chance whatsoever in a war with me. You are also far too young to have nukes (and besides, good RPers don't use nukes).

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-George Orwell
Indra Prime
08-10-2003, 18:21
(OOC: It is all wargames, is it not? OF course, we need some excuse to invade, so I made something up. All munitions are target practice munitions, not live munitions, repeat, NOT live munitions.)
Unum Veritas
08-10-2003, 21:46
Okay, thanks for clarifying that Prime, I just wanted to be sure (nations tend to get jumpy when they hear something like that coming from a nation with 5 CBG's in close proximity to their mainland :) . Sorry for the confusion, but let the games carry on...
Barbarosea
08-10-2003, 22:44
OOC:Just a note, No one would have gotten through, My ships are protecting the waters, so no one can get in (or out :twisted:).

IC: The Barbarosean Fleets have steped up in awareness as the games are about ready to begin...
Unum Veritas
09-10-2003, 00:12
LoL....thanks Barbarosea. The games have begun. I launched a sub attack and a fighter attack in my last, long post. I'm just waiting for a damage assessment, before I begin again. I just revamped my CBG's (again), and its such a shame that I can't use the new, added ships in this. I'd love to try them out (their the ones I just added to my store thread). Oh well, I can't keep adding ships, it wouldn't be fair. So, Indra, let the games continue...

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Barbarosea
09-10-2003, 00:17
mm-hm
Unum Veritas
09-10-2003, 00:22
lol....quite profound.
Barbarosea
09-10-2003, 00:34
lol....quite profound.
Very.
Indra Prime
09-10-2003, 01:55
Admiral Redding, commander of the Indra Prime 3rd Fleet surveyed the bridge of his ship and saw the bustle of his crew with the warning of torpedo launches against his ships. His second in command, Commander Billings, approached him with the latest information about the attack.

"Sir, UV ships are attacking, torpedoes in the water!"

"Commander, order the lead destroyers Reliant and Vertigo to order all ships to close in the net those torpedoes must not reach their targets. They are to launch available countermeasures in the water. Have them start with something easy, the supercav generators and the anti torpedo nets will do just fin. That should eliminate the first few volleys of them. I know they aren't expecting that. By the time that they reaquire us as targets we will have gotten the subs in position for firing. Order the Dauntless, the Solaris and the [i]Treste[/i[ to get a fix on enemy patrol subs and ships and sink them. Let them think that they have us worried turn us hard to port and launch starboard countermeasures! MOVE!"


As the torpedoes approached the Reliant and the Vertigo pulled in closer in between the reported position of the subs and the carrier group they were assigned to protect. On the aft deck of both ships the crew was busy in the task of releasing the small supercav generator that would disrupt the water with air jets and would cause the incoming torpedoes to lose their targets in the haze and sink to an incredible depth. With two of these devices in the water there would be a difficult time to track the battle fleet from their current zone. Crewman Welling looked up from his assigned task to see the carriers that were following his ship bank hard to port and launch the countermeasures they had into the dark sea. He finished the task at hand and released to generator in the water. The SCGs were built to sink like stones and to start generating their disruptive field as soon as they hit the water. As the SCGs hit the water the crew also launched the other countermeasures they were ordered to release. They knew that even if they were "damaged" beyond repair that they would still succeed, all becuase of that special task force now heading deeper into UV territorial waters. Just becuase of the armaments of that force, they knew they would win this conflict. It was imperative that they keep all attention on that part of the waters so the task force "Omega" would be able to complete its mission and destroy the key points.

In the sonar room aboard the Vertigo, The Sonar Officer watched as all the torpedoes were destracted and destroyed by the countermeasures... all but two. He radioed up to the bridge of the Vertigo.

"Captain! Two torpedoes made it through the net! They lost the target craft and aquired another target!"

"What is the new bearing of the torpedoes?"

"Torpedoes have aquired the Vertigo! Impact in 90 seconds!"

Helm, Increase to flank speed and Turn hard to starboard! Launch countermeasures! Release depth charges! That may remove at least one of them. Get it done!"

"Captain, the Apocalypse and the Schrodinger reports lock on as well. We don't know how those other torpedoes got through."

Lieutenant, are they evading?"

"Yessir. They are doing what they can."

"Then there is nothing that we can do for them. Just keep those damn torpedoes away from our hull. We can't lose this conflict because of incompetance."

"Yessir"
Indra Prime
09-10-2003, 02:27
On the bridge of the Challenger, captain Nurrala of the Omega task force watched with ever growing anticipation of the attack she was about to launch against their enemy, Unum Veritas. She watched the crew as they went about in their way taking care of what they had to take care of.
She looked over at her second in command, a 35 year old veteran of the Indra Prime Special Naval Forces. Command had placed him here just in case there was a situation that she couldn't handle. Command was pleased with her, abilities and all, but she was the youngest fleet captian to ever be on record, or off the record, for more precision. The Omega task force was a fleet of newly created Theta Class ICBM subs and a mixture of Omega Class and Sea Wolf Class Attack Subs. They had specifically handpicked her for this assignment becuase of her untarnished record and her unofficial record as the undefeated Captain of the Fleet. No one had beaten her in any combat situation. However, this new class of Sub was unfamiliar to her so her XO was a necessity. She called out for status reports from all stations.

"Conn, Engine Room. Catterpillar drive is operating at 100% efficiency. Emergency Systems are ready to kick into place at a moments notice."
"Conn, Sonar. No contacts in our radius of threat warning. A few surface ships up there but none larger than the size of a frigate."
"Conn, Weapons. Missiles primed and armed for attack. Missiles 5-15 and 20-30 are all armed and ready for release. Only require 15 minutes to equalize and launch."
"Conn, Radio. Fleet 3 radio traffic reports an attack against the carriers and destroyers of that fleet. Four Ships reported as targeted currently and evading. No Communication on the XLF. We are awaing to hear confirmation orders."

Good, she thinks, everything is as it should be. Everything except the attack on the third fleet. That wasn't expected to happen until later in the operation. No worries, Admiral Redding was a capable officer. Well God speed to us all.

"Helm, Set course to first launch site. increase speed to 1/2 Flank. Radio,Conn. Send a short burst transmission to the other ships. Tell them it is time to roll."

"Yes Ma'am"
"Conn, Radio. Aye Ma'am"
Unum Veritas
09-10-2003, 21:19
"Hmmm...they've got better anti-torpedo measures than we thought," said Commodore Prasine as he watched a monitor showing the somewhat-failed torpedo attack. "Its too bad we used the practice model of the Mark 50 torpedo...those ships have very little chance of evading. Now, what about the fighter attack on that other segment of Prime's ships?"
"We're still waiting on a damage assessment, sir," a young enlistee said.
"Very well, let me know the results as soon as we get them."

The Commodore then wandered out of the CIC and was heading towards his stateroom when a young seaman ran up to him,
"Sir, you're wanted in the intelligence suite immediately!" he exclaimed, while panting to catch his breath. Prasine didn't even reply, he merely turned on his heel and headed to one of the most impressive displays of cutting-edge technology anywhere: his command ship's intel suite. As soon as he walked in, he could tell something was up by the way the intel-ferrets were running around.
"I believe I was summoned here?" said Commodore Prasine in a loud voice. Everyone in the room jumped and came to attention.
"As you were, as you were; now, what is so important that I had to rush down here?" Prasine asked.
"Sir," the senior Intelligence officer replied, "the sensors we placed at the bottom of the waters in, and surrounding, the region have suddenly reported rather massive submarine operations...on the other side of the island. We also just received satellite photos of the two known enemy formations and they are quite a few subs short. We just ordered 5 P-3 Orions to fly over the area and see if they can spot anything, so we're waiting on the info they develop."
"Hmmm....this isn't as bad as it looks. I was just beginning to think I'd made a mistake in having the other half of our force guard the opposite side of the island, but evidently we can put them to good use. Our forces will hold off the two known formations, while our other forces deal with these subs." Prasine replied calmly. Just then one of the technicians operating a radio called out that the Orions had dropped sonobuoys and got a return off some of them. The Orions responded by dropping several torpedos and calling in backups. The sonar operator aboard one of the Orions also reported a strange noise, much like an underwater earthquake. Commodore Prasine seemed to find this bit of information far more valuable than anything else.
"Most of you don't know this, but our naval forces operate a small fleet of special operations subs, all of which use a drive system known as a 'Caterpillar' drive. It basically works by sucking water in the front and driving it out the rear. On sonar it sounds just like a seismic anamoly. It would appear the the enemy has subs using this propulsion mechanism as well. Have the sonar operators tweek their software to hone in on these strange noises, and destroy them. Also, position Beta force (the force on the other side of the island that hasn't seen battle yet) nearer to the subs and have them seriously step up their ASW efforts."

"Thirty minutes later the air was thick with ASW helos and jets, while the Perry Class Frigates combed the seas below. Torpedos were being fired, depthcharges dropped, and enough sonobuoys set up to form a bridge. The protection around that groups carriers dramatically increased, and Alpha force began planning another major offensive against Indra Prime's other two battle groups.
Unum Veritas
09-10-2003, 21:19
"Hmmm...they've got better anti-torpedo measures than we thought," said Commodore Prasine as he watched a monitor showing the somewhat-failed torpedo attack. "Its too bad we used the practice model of the Mark 50 torpedo...those ships have very little chance of evading. Now, what about the fighter attack on that other segment of Prime's ships?"
"We're still waiting on a damage assessment, sir," a young enlistee said.
"Very well, let me know the results as soon as we get them."

The Commodore then wandered out of the CIC and was heading towards his stateroom when a young seaman ran up to him,
"Sir, you're wanted in the intelligence suite immediately!" he exclaimed, while panting to catch his breath. Prasine didn't even reply, he merely turned on his heel and headed to one of the most impressive displays of cutting-edge technology anywhere: his command ship's intel suite. As soon as he walked in, he could tell something was up by the way the intel-ferrets were running around.
"I believe I was summoned here?" said Commodore Prasine in a loud voice. Everyone in the room jumped and came to attention.
"As you were, as you were; now, what is so important that I had to rush down here?" Prasine asked.
"Sir," the senior Intelligence officer replied, "the sensors we placed at the bottom of the waters in, and surrounding, the region have suddenly reported rather massive submarine operations...on the other side of the island. We also just received satellite photos of the two known enemy formations and they are quite a few subs short. We just ordered 5 P-3 Orions to fly over the area and see if they can spot anything, so we're waiting on the info they develop."
"Hmmm....this isn't as bad as it looks. I was just beginning to think I'd made a mistake in having the other half of our force guard the opposite side of the island, but evidently we can put them to good use. Our forces will hold off the two known formations, while our other forces deal with these subs." Prasine replied calmly. Just then one of the technicians operating a radio called out that the Orions had dropped sonobuoys and got a return off some of them. The Orions responded by dropping several torpedos and calling in backups. The sonar operator aboard one of the Orions also reported a strange noise, much like an underwater earthquake. Commodore Prasine seemed to find this bit of information far more valuable than anything else.
"Most of you don't know this, but our naval forces operate a small fleet of special operations subs, all of which use a drive system known as a 'Caterpillar' drive. It basically works by sucking water in the front and driving it out the rear. On sonar it sounds just like a seismic anamoly. It would appear the the enemy has subs using this propulsion mechanism as well. Have the sonar operators tweek their software to hone in on these strange noises, and destroy them. Also, position Beta force (the force on the other side of the island that hasn't seen battle yet) nearer to the subs and have them seriously step up their ASW efforts."

"Thirty minutes later the air was thick with ASW helos and jets, while the Perry Class Frigates combed the seas below. Torpedos were being fired, depthcharges dropped, and enough sonobuoys set up to form a bridge. The protection around that groups carriers dramatically increased, and Alpha force began planning another major offensive against Indra Prime's other two battle groups.
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 02:01
OOC-What are you viewing as a victory? The destruction of the "command posts", or actually gaining control of the island? Also, sorry for that double post. :oops:

By this time, Alpha force had positioned itself between two of Indra Prime's battle groups and the Isle of Bartoule. Each of the two groups of opposing forces were at about 45 degrees to Alpha group (kinda making a triangle between the groups). It would be Alpha's job to deal with both of these groups, while Beta group dealt with the subs on the other side of the island. Well, Beta group was not Commodore Prasine's concern, the surface ship groups were, and he was going to "sink" as many of them as possible. To reach this end, he had devised Operation BlueOp. Indra Prime's surface ships had finally appeared on the fringes of the AEGIS destroyer's radar scope, and Prasine was going to take advantage of this. He ordered his destroyers to within missile range, and told them to each pick surface targets, primarily the carriers and destroyers, and to wait for one hour before firing. Simultaneously, each of his carriers sent off half of their fighter-bombers (a total of 37 F-117 Nighthawks and 25 F/A-18 Super Hornets) under heavy fighter escort, to launch anti-ship missiles at even more surface ships.

One hour later the first shots were fired. The 35 destroyers fired a total of 115 missiles between the two concentrations of ships. The fighter/bombers then moved in, to fire a second volley of missiles. The bombers split into two groups, each heading for one of the battle groups. Once within range, each bomber fired its entire payload of anti-ship missiles and began to race back to the carriers. The Sea Raptors, Ultra Tomcats, and X-29's detailed to the bomber's protection began circling the air between the ships and the retreating bombers, but heavy aerial resistance was not expected. The sailors would have their hands full dealing with the massive amounts of missiles headed their way.

As the first missiles began their final descent, the Los Angeles Class attack subs, which had been lurking in the depths, began to put themselves back in firing positions. It would be their job to play janitor: cleaning up any ships the missiles missed...
Indra Prime
10-10-2003, 02:01
Commodore Ghrelling of the Indra Prime second fleet has his own hands full. A flight of enemy jets were streaming areound the area targeting the carriers and support ships. There were resounding booms throughout the fleet as the ships were attacked from the air.

"Damage Report!"

"Commodore! we have sustained minor damage to the flight deck and have exhausted the ships complement of AA rounds from the Vulcan Gattling Guns! The Agamemnon and the Hercules report that 85% of the enemy wing has been eliminated. However in the firefight, we have lost 12 F-14s and one AEGIS Cruiser. There were a few well placed shots. The Babel is out of commission. Other ships are reporting minor damage."

"Damn! We have been training for this. How can we lose a ship this early?!? Inform the other carriers to launch their Alpha squadrons and take out those damn planes and their Base of Operations. What about the other enemy fleet?"

"Sir, reports show that they are proceeding to the zone. They are taking the bait."

"Excellent. Contact the Omega Fleet on our secure transmitter. Tell them to deactivate the probes on the far side of the island when the ships come in range of the probes. On second thought let them continue to thing they have found our subs. When they launch there offensive against the probes and find out that they are not our subs then have them launch their arsenal."

"Aye aye sir!"

"And tell the fleet, prepare to attack."
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 02:07
OOC-You might want to revise your aerial damage assessment. My bombers retreated immediately, and I only had 5 Ultra Tomcats for protection, so unless you're saying those 5 shot down 12 of your planes, then you might want to change it...

"Commodore Prasine, we have a damage report from the first attack against the second battle group (henceforth its UV designation shall be CBG II). The bombers managed to retreat, and their stealth features saved them from the enemies AA countermeasures, but the Ultra Tomcats are engaged in multiple dogfights. We estimate 3 of them have been lost, and the remaining two are attempting to return to their carriers. We believe one destroyer has been sunk and several others damaged. When we have more info, we'll give it to you."
"Alright son, thanks. Now, let's see how they deal with this latest assault." Prasine muttered to himself.
Indra Prime
10-10-2003, 02:12
(OOC: I would consider it a victory if all the command structures were "destroyed" and a good portion of the fleet were damaged beyond any ability to intercept and turn away an invasion force that was to land on your soil for complete domination. Also those numbers include the fighters that were "shot down" and the ones that were hit on the deck of the carriers and rendered inoperable.)
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 02:17
OOC-Okay, glad that's cleared up. The fighter numbers are fine then, for some reason it didn't occur to me to think of fighters on carrier decks. Alright, let the RP continue (and if I'm being a bit excessive in the attacks, just let me know).
Indra Prime
10-10-2003, 02:24
Admiral Redding of the 3rd Fleet looked over a battle damage assessment from the Harding regarding his fleet and tries to make sense of it all.

Damn, he thought, we lost the Babel and sustained major damage on the Hawking. What a bloody mess. Its just one ship. We can survive the attack.

"Sir! Sonar reports a broad band contact bearing 230. Multiple bands! Indetification still unknown but if its subs they will be in firing range momentarily."

"Damn, here we go again. Helm hard to starboard!Increase speed to Flank. Flight Officer, Get our planes in the air. ALL OF THEM! Have them dive forward and destroy that fleet in front of us.Contact the Commodore. Tell him to put all of his planes in the air."

"All of them, sir?"

"YES, ALL OF THEM. NOW!! Those contacts can only be subs and they are in prime position for an attack. If we launch all our planes now, they can destroy that fleet ahead of us and eliminate any posible threat standing between us and shore. Send planes heading 230 and launch torpedoes and eliminate the subs!"
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 02:36
The sudden rush of planes caught the bomber's escorts somewhat by surprise. Luckily the Hawkeye that was airborne at the time gave them some warning, before they were plunged into a major air battle above the crystalline waters. The Hawkeye's radio operators immediately sent out a call for reinforcements from the hover carrier's air wings. The destroyers that had only just fired some of their missiles immediately pulled back to defend against any enemy fighter that got through the dogfighting. Alarms began to sound throughout the formation, and the carriers flight crews began to get their planes in the air as soon as they possibly could. Flights of three or four Veritasean jets began to throw themselves into the maylay that was one of the largest aerial dogfights any of them had ever heard. It seemed as if Indra Prime had completely emptied their carriers of fighters and sent them all towards the UV formation. The AA operators aboard the destroyers and Hawkeyes soon found themselves so busy that they didn't have time to wonder how many of the anti-ship missiles hit the enemy. Finally, the carriers got things under control. There were twenty fighters staying over the UV formation, while every other battle-capable fighter was sent to the spot where the UV forces and IP forces were locked in a deadly struggle. Even the F/A-18 Super Hornets were armed with AA missiles and sent back out. Three more Hawkeyes were launched, to keep track of friendly and enemy forces.

Sailors watched the movie-screen-sized radar readouts with baited breath as red and blue dots flew at one another and slowly more and more of the dots began to be marked yellow (for "splashed"). The yellow dots slowly made their way back to their respective carriers, to sit out the remainder of the excercise like players on a bench. It soon became apparent that no side was able to completely defeat the other, and Commodore Prasine made the decision to recall all of his remaining fighters, hoping the enemy forces would think this a retreat and pursue them. As his forces slowly pulled back towards the UV battle group, he got a readout on how many planes he had "lost":

7 X-29's
8 F-22 Sea Raptors
5 F-14E Ultra Tomcats
6 F/A-18 Super Hornets

His AEGIS destroyers continued to track the enemy planes, hoping they would continue pursuing the "retreating" fighters...
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 02:36
The sudden rush of planes caught the bomber's escorts somewhat by surprise. Luckily the Hawkeye that was airborne at the time gave them some warning, before they were plunged into a major air battle above the crystalline waters. The Hawkeye's radio operators immediately sent out a call for reinforcements from the hover carrier's air wings. The destroyers that had only just fired some of their missiles immediately pulled back to defend against any enemy fighter that got through the dogfighting. Alarms began to sound throughout the formation, and the carriers flight crews began to get their planes in the air as soon as they possibly could. Flights of three or four Veritasean jets began to throw themselves into the maylay that was one of the largest aerial dogfights any of them had ever heard. It seemed as if Indra Prime had completely emptied their carriers of fighters and sent them all towards the UV formation. The AA operators aboard the destroyers and Hawkeyes soon found themselves so busy that they didn't have time to wonder how many of the anti-ship missiles hit the enemy. Finally, the carriers got things under control. There were twenty fighters staying over the UV formation, while every other battle-capable fighter was sent to the spot where the UV forces and IP forces were locked in a deadly struggle. Even the F/A-18 Super Hornets were armed with AA missiles and sent back out. Three more Hawkeyes were launched, to keep track of friendly and enemy forces.

Sailors watched the movie-screen-sized radar readouts with baited breath as red and blue dots flew at one another and slowly more and more of the dots began to be marked yellow (for "splashed"). The yellow dots slowly made their way back to their respective carriers, to sit out the remainder of the excercise like players on a bench. It soon became apparent that no side was able to completely defeat the other, and Commodore Prasine made the decision to recall all of his remaining fighters, hoping the enemy forces would think this a retreat and pursue them. As his forces slowly pulled back towards the UV battle group, he got a readout on how many planes he had "lost":

7 X-29's
8 F-22 Sea Raptors
5 F-14E Ultra Tomcats
6 F/A-18 Super Hornets

His AEGIS destroyers continued to track the enemy planes, hoping they would continue pursuing the "retreating" fighters...
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 02:40
The LA subs had only just begun to get into position when alarms sounded, announcing the presence of "fish" in the water. Each sub launched its countermeasures immediately, and dove beneath the "curtain" (the spot where temperatures change rather dramatically...this temp change causes for different sonar conditions and often causes torpedoes to lose acquisition). One sub had a very close call and another was damaged and had to call itself "dead". Most of the other torpedoes either lost their lock or hit chaff clouds instead.
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 02:40
The LA subs had only just begun to get into position when alarms sounded, announcing the presence of "fish" in the water. Each sub launched its countermeasures immediately, and dove beneath the "curtain" (the spot where temperatures change rather dramatically...this temp change causes for different sonar conditions and often causes torpedoes to lose acquisition). One sub had a very close call and another was damaged and had to call itself "dead". Most of the other torpedoes either lost their lock or hit chaff clouds instead.
Indra Prime
10-10-2003, 02:55
On board the command carrier of the 3rd Fleet Admiral Redding sat with his command crew in the situation room just off the bridge watching the largest arial combat in History, with more than three hundred Indra Prime Planes in the fray as the first wave, things were about to get extremely dicey. The Harding wa having a difficult time in determining what planes had been splashed and which ones were still combat ready. In the bottom corner of the screen that displayed to arial battle was a list of splashed planes.

6-A6 Intruders
12-F14 Tomcats
3-JSFs

The Admiral looked pleased at the latest number, the modified JSF was faring better than he had hoped. He would have to commend the fighters and the people at Naval Command.

(OOC: The Defiant class carriers are capable of holding a full complement of aircraft totalling 70 planes and the Texas Class 105 planes. 5 CBGs= 5 Texas and 10 Defiant Carriers totalling in 1225 total planes in the Indra Prime Fleet, just FYI)
Indra Prime
10-10-2003, 02:57
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Indra Prime
10-10-2003, 02:57
On board the command carrier of the 3rd Fleet Admiral Redding sat with his command crew in the situation room just off the bridge watching the largest arial combat in History, with more than three hundred Indra Prime Planes in the fray as the first wave, things were about to get extremely dicey. The Harding wa having a difficult time in determining what planes had been splashed and which ones were still combat ready. In the bottom corner of the screen that displayed to arial battle was a list of splashed planes.

6-A6 Intruders
12-F14 Tomcats
3-JSFs
4- F/A 18 Super Hornets

The Admiral looked pleased at the latest number, the modified JSF was faring better than he had hoped. He would have to commend the fighters and the people at Naval Command.

(OOC: The Defiant class carriers are capable of holding a full complement of aircraft totalling 70 planes and the Texas Class 105 planes. 5 CBGs= 5 Texas and 10 Defiant Carriers totalling in 1225 total planes in the Indra Prime Fleet, just FYI)

The Second Wave was just reaching the edge of the fray and immediately added 250 planes to the fray.

(OOC: If you think that this is a little overzealous then let me know This is just how my carriers are set up)
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 16:06
OOC-I thought we were sticking with dual carrier battle groups, which means each of us could only have 10 carriers total. My hover carriers hold 100 planes total, but I've already given my exact numbers somewhere in this thread.

IC-A cheer erupted throughout the destroyers CICs, as the second wave of Indra Prime aircraft rushed into the fray, only to find the UV jets had retreated to the cover of their AA ships. The pilots in the air had their fuel topped off, and several landed to rearm. Finally everything was in position, and pilots and sailors alike waited with baited breath to see if Indra Prime's jets would continue their pursuit or turn back to their own carriers.

The LA class attack subs had been given attack discretion and decided to take advantage of everyone having their attention locked on the air battle. The submarines slowly snuck up on Indra Prime's CBG I (UV designation) and launched 6 torpedoes at its aircraft carriers. But this time, instead of immediately retreating, they rushed in after their torpedoes, continually firing wave after wave. The commander of this sub squadron was hell-bent on taking out aircraft carriers. Finally, he ordered his subs to dive back below the layer and hide once more. A total of 14 torpedoes had been fired at the carriers in this enemy concentration.

Aboard his command ship, Commodore Prasine took advantage of the lull in the air battle to demand a damage-report on enemy ships from the countless anti-ship missiles his destroyers had fired just prior to the aerial fray. The intel weenies began scurrying about, trying to determine how many of the enemy ships had been struck, while everyone else's attention returned to the radar screen readout, watching to see if the enemy would pursue the Veritasean planes, or whether they would return to their carriers.
Indra Prime
10-10-2003, 18:11
(OOC: I was under the impression that we agreed to five CBGs. In doing so I merged the five CBGs into two carrier task forces, Indra Prime 2nd Fleet and Indra Prime 3rd Fleet, Commanded by Commodore Ghrelling and Admiral Redding respecitvely.)
Unum Veritas
10-10-2003, 18:52
Yes, we did agree to 5 CBG's, but I thought each CBG was a dual-carrier group, meaning the most carriers each of us could have would be 10. Perhaps I was mistaken, my bad.
Indra Prime
10-10-2003, 20:40
I could remove 5 Defiant Class from the conflict, if that would suit your needs. But logistically speaking, wouldn't an invading force try to do what ever it can to insure its victory? Including bolstering a carrier Battle Group with an additional carrier? Just a thought. If the extra carriers are too much then we can eliminate them from the fray.
Unum Veritas
11-10-2003, 18:36
It doesn't really matter to me, I can deal with a slight disadvantage since this really doesn't matter.
Unum Veritas
15-10-2003, 21:50
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Unum Veritas
15-10-2003, 21:50
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Unum Veritas
15-10-2003, 22:19
Unum Veritas
15-10-2003, 22:24
My apologies for the double post

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Indra Prime
15-10-2003, 23:16
(OOC: Sorry for the delay. I've been caught up in RL with a few more pressing matters, but I'm back now, I'll make a few posts fairly close to one another, so please be patient thanks)

IC:

As the Second Wave of the Indra Prime Fighters arrived on the scene of the largest arial combat in the history of dog fights, They came to realize that the planes that appeared to be moseying around were only Indra Prime Fighters. The Unum Veritas planes had retreated. Colonel Gerry Seaver took command of the fighters who were lost with no purpose at the time being. He ordered the Air Wing (both waves, whats left of them to push on to the Unum Veritas Ships standing in their way. They would do as much damage as they could before the third wave of fighters and bombers reached their location and bombed the holy hell out of the enemy ships. So as one, the Air wing turned to follow their new leader in the unified goal to strike back at the enemy. Once the ships were taken out then the Omega task force can go to work.
Unum Veritas
15-10-2003, 23:24
No problem...
Indra Prime
19-10-2003, 04:11
As the Indra Prime first and second wings almost in range of the Unum Veritas Carrier Battle Group, things began to get more tense, if that were possible. As the pilots flew ever so closer to danger they began to get the weapons systems ready. Once they recieved word from the Omega Task Force they woud strike with everything thy had. When the first and second wings were in position they would await word from the third air wing bombers. Once they were in position as well they would attack.

"Colonel Seaver, This is Omega Task Force One niner. We are now in position for attack and await the final go command."
'Omega Task Force One niner, this is Colonel Gerry Seaver of the Indra Prime Second Air Wing. We are now in position and are awaiting for the Third Bomber Fleet. They should be in position in a few minutes.
Unum Veritas
19-10-2003, 16:52
Commodore Prasine watched the blinking lights representing Indra Prime planes move closer and closer to his ships. He smiled to himself at the irony of the situation. Those fighters expected to damage his ships and then move on to invading the island...such a shame they didn't know that he'd ordered all his surface ships from the other side of the island to rendevous with his ships, but to leave their radar off to avoid detection. The new ships were set at a right angle to those the Prime fighters were attacking. The jets were flying straight into a trap as eagerly as they could.
"Sir, Admiral Portus [the commanding officer of the ships that you don't know about] says the enemy planes just entered his passive radar scope and appear to be within firing range," a communicator called.
"Very well, in one minutes time have them go active and begin knocking those fighters out of the sky." was Prasine's reply.

One minute later, the radar screens aboard every ship in the area suddenly blazed with the sudden appearance of a complete task force that no one knew about. The new ships immediately turned their AA systems on and began targetting and firing at the incoming Indra Prime fighters. Veritasean fighters from both Task Force's air wings advanced behind the missile volley, loosing their own anti-air missiles at the enemy fighters. The air seemed to be one loud whistling as over one hundred missiles flew towards the Indra Prime jets.
Unum Veritas
25-10-2003, 22:53
ummmm....BUMP?