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Pilot revokes hate groups right to support violent acts

Pilot
24-09-2003, 20:43
The Free Market States of Pilot
Civil Liberties Notice

Up until this day, Pilot has not taken any measures against organizations that condone but do not explicitly involve themselves with violence. After a situation with a group called The White Aryan Pride, the Senate has approved revoking Article II.a in the Pilot Consititution that allows groups to do so.

It has been officially warned to all groups under this umbrella to denounce violence, or face government action.
24-09-2003, 20:46
We commend you for this action. These groups should learn to put their ideals across peacfully. Words speak much louder than force ever will.

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24-09-2003, 20:46
The Blackshirts support this action whole heartedly, cracking down on hate has become a great Crusade of our century.
Feline
24-09-2003, 21:02
We are disappointed to hear that one of our allies has decided to cut back on civil liberties. While violence is horrible, what is even more horrible is if we let fear destroy our freedoms. Words alone cannot kill. It is violence in the psyches of sapient beings that kills. Teach children early that violence is not the answer, teach them that it accomplishes nothing. That is what we do. We allow our citizens to say whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, to whomever they want.

Please note that the two nations who have come out in favor of your decision are a right-wing utopia and a iron fist consumerists. Not typically nations our respective nations tend to agree with...
Pilot
24-09-2003, 21:12
< Message from Diplomatic Courier to Feline >

There is a difference between free speech and free speech that hurts others. Would you not target terrorist organizations when they committ acts of violence? You certainly would. For the safety and best interest of all your people. Complete civil rights, like the ones you describe of in your country, are product of weak and cowardly governments.
Scandavian States
24-09-2003, 21:20
We commend Pilot on this decision. To take lives and to commit violence on the behalf of the greater good is the right of the state and the state only.
Feline
24-09-2003, 21:25
Speach may hurt one's emotions, but it is seldom lasting. No one is obligated to do what these hate groups may say. We currently have no known organized terrorist groups within Feline... and unorganized terrorist attacks are very, very, very rare. We target terrorists once we have evidence that they intend to do it or afterwards. Only until an organzation commits violent acts is placed on a watch list. Only members involved in those attacks are arrested. There is no purpose in taking away freedom to save it.

By the way... another type of nation we typically disagree with supporting you... a "capitalist paradise."
Scandavian States
24-09-2003, 21:32
Speach may hurt one's emotions, but it is seldom lasting. No one is obligated to do what these hate groups may say. We currently have no known organized terrorist groups within Feline... and unorganized terrorist attacks are very, very, very rare. We target terrorists once we have evidence that they intend to do it or afterwards. Only until an organzation commits violent acts is placed on a watch list. Only members involved in those attacks are arrested. There is no purpose in taking away freedom to save it.

By the way... another type of nation we typically disagree with supporting you... a "capitalist paradise."

You preach tolerance but you fail to practice it, you don't see me denouncing you for being left-wing do you? Also, the inherent weakness in your country is that you sit on you ass waiting for something to happen instead of being proactive about it, that and the fact that you are just a micron away from anarchy. It really would be too easy for a concerted terrorist effort to bring you country too its knees, especially if it was anything like Al Qaeda.
24-09-2003, 21:56
We condemn this act of curbing Civil Liberties...Why not just arrest the wrong doers and punish them. You probably have laws against Murder and assault, kidnapping , Rape. ...just enforce them.

Arrest Criminals dont , let others suffer for a few, Feral Miscreants
Pilot
25-09-2003, 00:14
< Diplomatic Courier to Rylleh >

Hate groups that our national investigation services include a population of over 50,000. This is not a few.
Penguenia
25-09-2003, 00:17
You will have a rebellion on your hands if you are going to outlaw that many peoples beliefs.

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Pilot
25-09-2003, 00:20
You will have a rebellion on your hands if you are going to outlaw that many peoples beliefs.

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Not all of them are violent, although, we are expecting small revolts against this decision. However, with this new ability, our government will be able to take action against people who comitt violence because of this decision.
25-09-2003, 00:25
We advocate the murders of, but not limited to, the president of Pilot, the congressmen of pilot, and cabinet members members of pilot.
Pilot
25-09-2003, 00:29
Pilot has no Congress. Only a Senate. And our President is largely favored in the country. Shows how much you know. 8)
25-09-2003, 00:30
Pilot has no Congress. Only a Senate. And our President is largely favored in the country. Shows how much you know. 8)
Yes, but were advocating violence, what you gonna do?
Pilot
25-09-2003, 00:33
Pilot has no Congress. Only a Senate. And our President is largely favored in the country. Shows how much you know. 8)
Yes, but were advocating violence, what you gonna do?

Well, you are a stupid 12-year-old that doesn't deserve my attention. Plus, you're not a hate group. Sod off.
Diminix
25-09-2003, 00:36
Pilot has no Congress. Only a Senate. And our President is largely favored in the country. Shows how much you know. 8)
Yes, but were advocating violence, what you gonna do?

Well, you are a stupid 12-year-old that doesn't deserve my attention. Plus, you're not a hate group. Sod off.


He really is a 12 year old who never had a girl lol
Pilot
25-09-2003, 00:37
What about "stupid 12-year-old that doesn't deserve my attention" do you not understand?
25-09-2003, 00:38
What about "stupid 12-year-old that doesn't deserve my attention" do you not understand?Diminix is a 14 year old who uses sidewinders against carriers...
Diminix
25-09-2003, 00:38
I just find it funny he's never had a girl
Adornia
25-09-2003, 00:39
we have to listen to everyone, even those we disagree with. Everyone deserves freedom of speech. Adornia does not support Pilot's action in any way, shape, or form.
Diminix
25-09-2003, 00:39
What about "stupid 12-year-old that doesn't deserve my attention" do you not understand?Diminix is a 14 year old who uses sidewinders against carriers...

Aw..that really makes me unpopular.. :roll:
25-09-2003, 00:40
I just find it funny he's never had a girl
Ah yes, me, Omz, normack, anyone else with a total post count at almost 10,000, yes I have no life.


NS--->breakfast--->school---->NS----homework at the comp while playing NS---> dinner----->NS---> more NS----> sleep.


Any questions?
Pilot
25-09-2003, 00:40
< Message to all nations >

Pilot feels no need to justify it's actions with the rest of the international community. It was a mere notice. Our people were more than 80% in favor of the decision.
Fyreheart
25-09-2003, 00:41
Well, we are a New York Times Democracy, and I fully support Pilot.

Good move. Fyreheart may follow suit.
Diminix
25-09-2003, 00:41
I just find it funny he's never had a girl
Ah yes, me, Omz, normack, anyone else with a total post count at almost 10,000, yes I have no life.


NS--->breakfast--->school---->NS----homework at the comp while playing NS---> dinner----->NS---> more NS----> sleep.


Any questions?

Don't bring other people into this. I'm dissin you..not them.
25-09-2003, 00:41
< Message to all nations >

Pilot feels no need to justify it's actions with the rest of the international community. It was a mere notice. Our people were more than 80% in favor of the decision.
Your people are intolerant of intolerance then.
25-09-2003, 00:42
I just find it funny he's never had a girl
Ah yes, me, Omz, normack, anyone else with a total post count at almost 10,000, yes I have no life.


NS--->breakfast--->school---->NS----homework at the comp while playing NS---> dinner----->NS---> more NS----> sleep.


Any questions?

Don't bring other people into this. I'm dissin you..not them.Both omz and normack said they had no life.

And I dont think either of them acted like it was a bad thing.
Blamgolia
25-09-2003, 00:43
While I applaud the intention of Pilot (to prevent further acts of violence), if I may so recommend, keep a watchout for those with past histories of violence, particularly those involving methods commonly used by terrorists.
Diminix
25-09-2003, 00:44
I just find it funny he's never had a girl
Ah yes, me, Omz, normack, anyone else with a total post count at almost 10,000, yes I have no life.


NS--->breakfast--->school---->NS----homework at the comp while playing NS---> dinner----->NS---> more NS----> sleep.


Any questions?

Don't bring other people into this. I'm dissin you..not them.Both omz and normack said they had no life.

And I dont think either of them acted like it was a bad thing.

But they probally have had girlfriends
Normack
25-09-2003, 03:36
I just find it funny he's never had a girl
Ah yes, me, Omz, normack, anyone else with a total post count at almost 10,000, yes I have no life.


NS--->breakfast--->school---->NS----homework at the comp while playing NS---> dinner----->NS---> more NS----> sleep.


Any questions?

Don't bring other people into this. I'm dissin you..not them.Both omz and normack said they had no life.

And I dont think either of them acted like it was a bad thing.

But they probally have had girlfriends

Why yes I do have a girlfriend 8)
Pilot
25-09-2003, 03:37
No one cares. This thread is not about your love life.
Normack
25-09-2003, 03:42
:-o touchy... I bet someone was born an ugly duckling 8)
Pilot
25-09-2003, 03:45
:-o touchy... I bet someone was born an ugly duckling 8)

Yes, actually, I am quite ugly. Which is probably why I don't have a girlfriend. But, no, I don't care what your life is like. So move it somewhere else. Asshole.
Normack
25-09-2003, 03:47
dwid widdle pwilwit wwake up on twhe wwrong swide oof twhe bedie?

*pinches Pilot's cheeks*

pwilwit go poopoo?
Diminix
25-09-2003, 03:49
oh thats f*cked up..
Pilot
25-09-2003, 03:55
Let him. Some people feel better about themselves that way. I like having him have to resort to that kind of stuff, shows that I'm doing something right. :D
Normack
25-09-2003, 03:58
what are you talking about?

I'm not the one flaming :roll:

I'n fact I'm feeling good about today and myself :D
25-09-2003, 12:33
Yeah, but Norm met his girlfriend on NS :lol:
25-09-2003, 12:34
lol
Normack
25-09-2003, 17:41
Yeah, but Norm met his girlfriend on NS :lol:

8)