NationStates Jolt Archive

On the flight deck of the FNS Tiamat, Secretary-General Wright himself stands along with his entourage of diplomats and military officers to wait for the diplomatic delegations to arrive.

A Skycrane arrives with a delagation of Attican diplomats, including Kaiser Otto Petinski.

OOC: plz ACS, state taht only FPC, Attica and ACS + perhaps McLeod, Crookfur and Felimid MacFal will be allowed to post.

The delegation of FPCian diplomats arrive. 5 experts are accompagnied by a dozen armed guards and some other diplomats(5).

Admiral Harris on board the carrier HMCS Agamenon uses his really big telecope to try and see what is going on.

Three tables, set up in an equilateral triangle, have been set up on the deck of the submersible aircraft carrier. The open air meeting not only is symbolic of the new openness between the FPC and the Attican Empire... it also means that the Federation has total operational security over the area, which is in international waters.

OOC: Other nations can send observers... but only the FPC, Attica, and FACS are allowed to negotiate.

Sorry about that post...

Secretary-General Wright shakes the hand of each individual in both the Attican and FPC delegations before showing them to their tables. He then takes a seat at the center of the FACS table and sits for a few minutes, so the photographers can all take their pictures.

The FPCain diplomats give a sheet of paper to the ACS diplomats with requests and offers to be given to Attica.

Attica
1- Attica will remove all forces from FPC and, if there are some, the 2 rebelling countys.
2- Attica will sign a form stating that it recognises the neutrality of FPC and will not attack it in the future.
3- Attica will send apoligies to the people and government of FPC.

FPC
1- FPC will recognise the 2 rebelling countys as an independant state and will give them their respective land to control.
2- Though giving them freedom, FPC will be allowed to keep some checkpoints and small bases in the newly formed country only at the border with Attica to secure the future security of FPC.

I would like to contest part of #3, the apologize to government part. That would imply their government is superior to the people, if I am apologizing to the people.

I would like to contest part of #3, the apologize to government part. That would imply their government is superior to the people, if I am apologizing to the people.

well, I'll agree that you won't be obliged to send public apologise to the governement but a secret one would do.

Secretary-General Wright sits back a little and smiles... while he is ready to step in if things get heated, he's content to let them talk it out for the moment.

Could LRR sned a delegation too? We need to reconsile with Attican.

Could LRR sned a delegation too? We need to reconsile with Attican.

That would be for another conference... perhaps you can privately reconcile with the Atticans, they are being quite civil now.

I would like to contest part of #3, the apologize to government part. That would imply their government is superior to the people, if I am apologizing to the people.

well, I'll agree that you won't be obliged to send public apologise to the governement but a secret one would do.

Would the Attican delegation be agreeable to that?

I guess.

Is it possible for us to have Reichsgehemdienst agents in FPC to make sure civil liberties are not comprimised for a few years?

Is it possible for us to have Reichsgehemdienst agents in FPC to make sure civil liberties are not comprimised for a few years?

I think that might perhaps be an issue to negotiate after we get a peace deal in ink.

So that we can move forward on the peace settlement... Do both parties agree on the terms stated below?

The Attican Empire
1- AE will remove all forces from FPC and, if there are some, the 2 newly independent counties.
2- AE will sign a form stating that it recognises the neutrality of FPC and will not attack it in the future.
3- AE will send public apologies to the people and private apologies to the government of FPC.

FPC
1- FPC will recognise the 2 breakaway counties as an independent state and will give them their respective land to control.
2- Though giving them freedom, FPC will be allowed to keep some checkpoints and small bases in the newly formed country only near the border with Attica to secure the future border integrity of FPC.

FPC #2 makes little sense. If the revolting states are on the Attican border, their bases should only be on the border with the new states...

FPC #2 makes little sense. If the revolting states are on the Attican border, their bases should only be on the border with the new states...

I get the impression it would be like how the United States kept a few bases in Japan after it gave them back self-government. The bases aren't there to keep the Japanese in line... they were there to protect American interests against the Soviets. I think FPC is proposing something similar here.

But, they are revolting from FPC. How would they feel having FPC bases there? Peacekeeping bases might be better, IMO.

We need to see what FPC has to say about it.

Though must say, I agree with you Attica, it's for FPC'S security to ensure that you or any other country won't be shipping men or equipement to these rebelling countys to atack me. But I'd be willing to replace those FPC checkpoints with international police or peace-keepers checkpoints.

The Federation would be willing to support an independent, multinational peacekeeping force.

Also, are we going to rebuild the government of this new nation, or let them handle it themselves?

Prince Michael himself stepped off the modified Kl-55N gunship onto the deck of the Tiamat.

He sat silently observing the meeting, before making his own demand.

"In addition, we request a general reduction in arms by 20% from the Attican Empire, in order to protect FPC, the new states, and others from their warmongering. If this is acceptable, we propose a strategic alliance with the Attican Empire, and promise to never again attack them, but to step in and defend them if needed."

"We will also happily leave troops in the area to act as part of an international peacekeeping force, and urge others to do the same. BY gettin gour armies to work together, we can seal a pact of friendship between all our countries, securing this area from violence for years to come."

"I do not beleive McLeod03 was allowed to these discussions. Therefore, they have no right to make any demands, especially after destroying several billion dollars worth of Attican equipment."

The Gun Brothers would like to send a reporter from the state run newspaper, so that they can properly report on these proceedings (and possibly beat the AP Press to the story).

"I do not beleive McLeod03 was allowed to these discussions. Therefore, they have no right to make any demands, especially after destroying several billion dollars worth of Attican equipment."

"And you the same. You destroyed many fighters , tanks, and APCs, as well as killing numerous infantryment on the ground, all so you could gain access to two small rebelling states to get your imperialistic claws into them.. You launched fighters when i intercepted nuclear weapons. You are the aggressor here.

My nation does not take the use of nuclear weapons easily. FOllowing the attacks by KI, we began planning on bringing his forces to justice by luring them into our country to stay. But, before we could, you retaliated. ANY nuclear weapons would have been shot down had i known about them.

I am offering you an alliance, a seal of goodwill and friendship. If you wish to throw it back in my face, so be it."

"Attica, I will not allow you to help them rebuild their government. They will do this on their own. It is their society taht they want and they will ahve it. Let them have peace for once. These 1 million individuals will remain free until they want to be part of a country once again. So, Attica, do we have a deal here? Do you accept to the propositions that I stated? I'll state them again:

The Attican Empire
1- AE will remove all forces from FPC and, if there are some, the 2 newly independent counties. Plus, they will not rebuild the governement of the newly formed coutnry. They will let it be as they want.
2- AE will sign a form stating that it recognises the neutrality of FPC and will not attack it in the future.
3- AE will send public apologies to the people and private apologies to the government of FPC.

FPC
1- FPC will recognise the 2 breakaway counties as an independent state and will give them their respective land to control.
2- Though giving them freedom, FPC will be allowed to keep some checkpoints and small bases in the newly formed country only near the border with Attica to secure the future border integrity of FPC.

OOC: Also, I wil be the one to post things that are going on in the newly formed country. No one will cuz basicaly they are still FPCian.

OOC: I'm gonna be away for the rest of the night. Maybe I'll be here for a couple of minutes but that would be very unlikely. So see ya all tomorrow!

Deal.

OOC: Keep the dealings with the rebel country realistic, ok?

If the Attican-FPC negotiations are complete, we would be happy to also host any additional negotiations at this time.

Deal.

OOC: Keep the dealings with the rebel country realistic, ok?

Yes, we have a deal too.

OOC: Don't worry, I'll keep it realistic.

Federation naval officers bring out copies of the completed deal for FPCian and Attican leaders to sign. The photographers, of course, are just eating it up and taking as many pictures as they have film or digital memory for.

Kaiser Otto Petinski signs the document.

"Now if you will excuse me, I must head to Attican Aerospace. They will be showing me some new designs for aircraft."

The Kaiser hops onto his Skycrane.

OOC: sorry about my... er.. uneventfullness. i had school and stuff and it was too hard to play catch up. but the whole thing was really fun, while i was able to participate.

IC: General Treynok, representitive of the Federation of Felimid MacFal, nodded in approval at the outcome of the entire event. He then sighed "Back to the fun life of sitting behind a desk." His new aid and military advisor, Samoht, laughed and agreed.

Message to Felimid MacFal

Would you like to have military wargames?

OOC: Attican, check TGs.

Message to Felimid MacFal

Would you like to have military wargames?

We do think that military wargames might be benificial. What do you have in mind, exactly?

OOC: Ground Warfare. Our tanks and infantry vs your tanks and infantry.

that sounds just fine. you name the rules and we'll pick the time and place.

OOC: t-gram me with details and stuff and i'll set up the thread when i can.

We have several research projects into armored vehicles going. We would like to finish those first.

Federation naval officers bring out copies of the completed deal for FPCian and Attican leaders to sign. The photographers, of course, are just eating it up and taking as many pictures as they have film or digital memory for.

Emperor Komarninski signs the paper that was transmitted to him through instant fax and sends it back to his ambassadors that, in turn, sign it also.

We have several research projects into armored vehicles going. We would like to finish those first.

um... in all honesty... i think that your nation should be working on recovering from the war(s) it just fought... developing more technology is kinda unrealistic.

We have several research projects into armored vehicles going. We would like to finish those first.

um... in all honesty... i think that your nation should be working on recovering from the war(s) it just fought... developing more technology is kinda unrealistic.

Ditto. Especially since the nuclear weapons dropped on your country would have wiped out many, if not most, of your unhardened electronics in the general vicinity of the blasts.

yeah so i'm all for having wargames, but within a realistic time span for your nation to "heal"... and perhaps get a new leader. :lol: :P

nuclear blasts in the industrial and residential districts of Attica city. Which, one of the vehicles we are building, is designed for nuclear cleanup. And my COUNTRY isnt developing them, Attican Aerospace and Motorwerke is.

Just because companies aren't listed in your countries budget doesn't mean they wont be affected. Supplies, workers, materials, even facilities would be affected, slowing research, and you would still have to fund all that research with money that should be used for a clean-up operation.

nuclear blasts in the industrial and residential districts of Attica city. Which, one of the vehicles we are building, is designed for nuclear cleanup. And my COUNTRY isnt developing them, Attican Aerospace and Motorwerke is.

And I imagine the industrial district is where most of that stuff would have been made...

Once all the delegations leave and the flight deck is cleared, the crew of the Tiamat and its diplomat passengers head back below decks and prepare to depart the area.

Once the submersible carrier clears the edge of the continental shelf, it recalls its aircraft on patrol, retracts the bridge/control tower to its secured position, and then glides beneath the surfaces of the waves. The Tiamat's subfighter escort keeps pace with the single largest submarine in the Federation Navy as it sets course for home.