NationStates Jolt Archive

Today the government of West Moon and opened up its region of Earths Moon to colonization by other nations.
As long as said nations agree to a permanent peace treaty with West Moon.

Indiastan does not recognize WestMoon's claim of total control over the moon. We will feel free to establish a luner base at will, and will do so on our own terms. Thank you.

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry

Indiastan does not recognize WestMoon's claim of total control over the moon. We will feel free to establish a luner base at will, and will do so on our own terms. Thank you.

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry
That is the same position we have taken.

According to the Moon Treaty, you cannot claim to control any of it. I will build colonies wherever I want (when I can).

We will take advantage of the West Moon and begin colonization immediately.

Indiastan does not recognize WestMoon's claim of total control over the moon. We will feel free to establish a luner base at will, and will do so on our own terms. Thank you.

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry

West Moon only claims control over the region of the moon he created.
That is the region he has opened up to colonization. As for the treaty. It is only binding on signatory nations. As far as I know, West Moon is not a signatory to the treaty.

According to the Moon Treaty, you cannot claim to control any of it. I will build colonies wherever I want (when I can).

I do not recognize that treaty and have never signed it.
I have a large stockpile of nuclear weapons to use against anyone who tries to force it on me by violating my soverignty.

Indiastan does not recognize WestMoon's claim of total control over the moon. We will feel free to establish a luner base at will, and will do so on our own terms. Thank you.

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry
That is the same position we have taken.

We do not claim the whole moon. Just the region we created to make the moon much bigger. Most nations recognize my soverignty over this region. However, if you try to violate my soverignty over it, I will shove 5,000 nuclear up your.....

Indiastan does not recognize WestMoon's claim of total control over the moon. We will feel free to establish a luner base at will, and will do so on our own terms. Thank you.

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry
That is the same position we have taken.

We do not claim the whole moon. Just the region we created to make the moon much bigger. Most nations recognize my soverignty over this region. However, if you try to violate my soverignty over it, I will shove 5,000 nuclear up your.....And be forever noted as the second nation to start an Ubercaust.

For those who don't know: The Ubercaust was started in the Midnight/Sunlight interegional war, when Sunlight detonated a nuclear weapon hiddinen in Steel City(Steel Butterfly's capital). That started a nuclear war in which Garrison II launched 5000 nuclear warheads at Sunlight, wiping out the region and all nations in it. He killed more people in one attack than any other nation in NS history.

And... got away with it. :shock:

I doubt you'd be so lucky though. Nukes were commonly used back then. They are grounds for total destruction now.

OOC: And Valinon will be more than willing to show Westmoon that nukes are not the solution to all your little problems. In fact, we would be more than willing to show you how wars are meant to be fought. This will of course be after you exhaut your nuclear arsenal because you will have so many enemies you will run out of your pathetic little missiles.

OOC: And Valinon will be more than willing to show Westmoon that nukes are not the solution to all your little problems. In fact, we would be more than willing to show you how wars are meant to be fought. This will of course be after you exhaut your nuclear arsenal because you will have so many enemies you will run out of your pathetic little missiles.

Do not violate my soverignty and you will have nothing to fear little one.

Treaties can only be enforced on those nations that sign them.
This precept is codified in international law.

lol threaten me with nukes and I will threaten you with my fleet

Indiastan does not recognize WestMoon's claim of total control over the moon. We will feel free to establish a luner base at will, and will do so on our own terms. Thank you.

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry
That is the same position we have taken.

We do not claim the whole moon. Just the region we created to make the moon much bigger. Most nations recognize my soverignty over this region. However, if you try to violate my soverignty over it, I will shove 5,000 nuclear up your.....And be forever noted as the second nation to start an Ubercaust.

For those who don't know: The Ubercaust was started in the Midnight/Sunlight interegional war, when Sunlight detonated a nuclear weapon hiddinen in Steel City(Steel Butterfly's capital). That started a nuclear war in which Garrison II launched 5000 nuclear warheads at Sunlight, wiping out the region and all nations in it. He killed more people in one attack than any other nation in NS history.

And... got away with it. :shock:

I doubt you'd be so lucky though. Nukes were commonly used back then. They are grounds for total destruction now.
This is the moon of the late 20th century. For those of you haven't figured it out.
During the time of West Moon, there were no other nations or colonies on the moon. (But in the very distant future, an economic breakdown and severe societal crises resulted in the break up of West Moon into many smaller nations.) West Moon is the progenitor of all future moon nations.
The ubercaust you speak of would not be possible in West Moon's time period because that type of tech has not been invented yet. Hence, you speak of an event which won't happen for another few centuries at least, or one thousand years preferrably.

lol threaten me with nukes and I will threaten you with my fleet

ooc: what type of fleet do you have. ANd you might read my previous post to help you figure out if you can use it here.

I have a space fleet, a navel fleet, and a ground force

I do not recognize that treaty and have never signed it.
I have a large stockpile of nuclear weapons to use against anyone who tries to force it on me by violating my soverignty.
Using a nuclear stockpile to defend your rights not to sign a treaty...hmmm...

This is the moon of the late 20th century. For those of you haven't figured it out.
During the time of West Moon, there were no other nations or colonies on the moon. (But in the very distant future, an economic breakdown and severe societal crises resulted in the break up of West Moon into many smaller nations.) West Moon is the progenitor of all future moon nations.
The ubercaust you speak of would not be possible in West Moon's time period because that type of tech has not been invented yet. Hence, you speak of an event which won't happen for another few centuries at least, or one thousand years preferrably.
In the late 20th century, the USA and USSR could do an Ubercaust easily. Nice try though, good effort :D .
ooc: what type of fleet do you have. ANd you might read my previous post to help you figure out if you can use it here.
I'd guess it would be a space fleet...

Indiastan does not recognize WestMoon's claim of total control over the moon. We will feel free to establish a luner base at will, and will do so on our own terms. Thank you.

-Indiastan Foreign Ministry
That is the same position we have taken.

We do not claim the whole moon. Just the region we created to make the moon much bigger. Most nations recognize my soverignty over this region. However, if you try to violate my soverignty over it, I will shove 5,000 nuclear up your.....And be forever noted as the second nation to start an Ubercaust.

For those who don't know: The Ubercaust was started in the Midnight/Sunlight interegional war, when Sunlight detonated a nuclear weapon hiddinen in Steel City(Steel Butterfly's capital). That started a nuclear war in which Garrison II launched 5000 nuclear warheads at Sunlight, wiping out the region and all nations in it. He killed more people in one attack than any other nation in NS history.

And... got away with it. :shock:

I doubt you'd be so lucky though. Nukes were commonly used back then. They are grounds for total destruction now.
This is the moon of the late 20th century. For those of you haven't figured it out.
During the time of West Moon, there were no other nations or colonies on the moon. (But in the very distant future, an economic breakdown and severe societal crises resulted in the break up of West Moon into many smaller nations.) West Moon is the progenitor of all future moon nations.
The ubercaust you speak of would not be possible in West Moon's time period because that type of tech has not been invented yet. Hence, you speak of an event which won't happen for another few centuries at least, or one thousand years preferrably.

And if you wipe out West Moon in the 20th century, you end up wiping out the descendant nations that exist in the far future.

Did they have space fleets in the 20th century?

did they have regions on the moon for colinization in the 20th century?

We've had a secret base on the moon for years.

did they have regions on the moon for colinization in the 20th century?

They had the capability in RL but they never did it because NASA could never get its priorities straight due to politics. The NASA funding was cut by over 74% to make money available for welfare programs and illegal immigrants. Hence, the recent shuttle disaster in RL. Caused by Congress eliminating all funding for shuttle maintenance.
However, if they had done it, it would look nothing like Star Trek, Star Wars or even Babylon 5.
The closest to a space fleet would be a fleet of space planesand space shuttles.

Colonizing the moon in our time, in RL, is technically feasible if we had the will to do it.

http://www.greaterearth.org/laws/moon_try.htm

No nation can claim total control of any celestial body within our solar system (minus asteroids). It is against international law, and should therefore be adbided by.

Of course, you may not regocnise international law; in which case your claim on the moon shall be ignored.

http://www.greaterearth.org/laws/moon_try.htm

No nation can claim total control of any celestial body within our solar system (minus asteroids). It is against international law, and should therefore be adbided by.

Of course, you may not regocnise international law; in which case your claim on the moon shall be ignored.

Ignored cause its offtopic.

http://www.greaterearth.org/laws/moon_try.htm

No nation can claim total control of any celestial body within our solar system (minus asteroids). It is against international law, and should therefore be adbided by.

Of course, you may not regocnise international law; in which case your claim on the moon shall be ignored.

BTW, this is a treaty. And treaties are only binding on signatories.
That means it only constitutes international law for those who sign it.
That is the main precedent of international law. You' cant force treaty obligations on nations that refuse to sign. Nor can you use refusal to accept a treaty as an excuse to invade or otherwise violate another nation's neutrality.

Of course you can force nations to abide by the treaties.

Of course you can force nations to abide by the treaties.

Are you nuts or are you another one of those GWs running around here.
You cannot do that cause it would violate international law.
It would be like me signing a treaty with say Whittier saying all of the moon all of mars and all of earth orbit will divided between our two nations and no nation may colonize either place with the knowledge or consent of the other. Then I decide to attack, say you for putting a colony on Mars without getting permission from me and Whittier.
It doesn't work that way cause you are not bound by the treaty cause you didn't sign it. Hence, as a nonsignatory you could put colony on the moon whenever you wanted without having to abide by the treaty you never signed. As long as you do not violate national soverignty.
International law puts national soverignty ahead of everything else. Even ahead of treaties.

OOC: Well, the current year in Indiastan is 2237. Meaning that really, there's not a lot you can do to me. So, the moral of this story is that we can both do what we want without worry of effecting each other.