NationStates Jolt Archive

Esamopian Foreign Minister:

"It has come to our attention that RF may be willing to end its invasion and hold a referendum. We are not sure if this is simply a ploy or if the RF's intentions are real, yet they give us hope for peace."

"We request that all nations, however bitter they have been by the long conflict, come together to express their hopes for peace and an end to the turmoil and madness. None of us like to see the death of our comrades, nor would we like to turn the West Ukraine into an utter wasteland."

"We know ask RF to clarify its statement regarding the holding of a referendum, and thereafter the reaction of other belliegerents."

I suggest we leave it to the Western Ukrainians to vote. At this time of vote all troops must stop fighting and await the results.

However every nation must create a party. Like a communist Party,Capitalist one or so fourth.

I see. We find this to be favorable, we await the approval of the West Ukraine.

However, in the meantime, does the RF give its solemn word that it will obey they results, regardless of what they may be?

"As for all nations involved in the conflict, we request that they cease combat operations tentatively. This may be a sign for peace to come..."

my troops will stand down once West Ukraine agree's with this.

my troops will stand down once West Ukraine agree's with this.

OOC: I don't think West Ukraine is on right now.

IC: We appreciate this pledge by the RF forces, however we note that it has not yet responded to the question regarding the RF's approval of the referendum results. Would the RF abide by the results of a referendum, regardless of the outcome?

yes we will. Now i ask of you to tell the invaders to back off or this vote will be terminated.

yes we will. Now i ask of you to tell the invaders to back off or this vote will be terminated.

"We will recommend that all troops stand down, but not withdraw, while the West Ukraine official is reached to determine their stance. We would also ask your troops to stand down until West Ukraine is contacted. If West Ukraine is reached and it approves the referendum, then we will call on all pro-Ukraine forces to leave the country, if RF forces do the same, to await the results of the election."

"If these terms are agreeable then we are prepared to endorse them. We only await your confirmation, RF."

I agree. He should go with this. His the one with only 40% of his country under control.

"Esamopia recognizes the approval of Russian Forces. WE hereby declare a temporary cease-fire, pending a review of this proposal by the West Ukranian government. Until such time we request that all nations who support either side stand down from military occupations and hold their positions. Further instructions will be given when West Ukraine responds."

"That is all, we are adjourned until West Ukraine gives its official response."

OOC: Seeing as West Ukraine is not on today, or at least not right now, I recommend that everyone lay off the conflict until they get back and respond. I suspect that they will agree, and then we can go from there. For now, I sleep!

The government of West Ukraine accepts this offer. But we want international observers in country to ensure RF does nothing tricky with the ballot box.
We also wish all nations defending Ukraine to stay.
We accepted peace with RF before and they rejected it. We fear they may be tricking us.

Esamopia recognizes the acceptance of West Ukraine's offer, but since they have added new conditions:

1. International Observors.
2. Keeping troops on the ground (but not fighting) until referendum is complete.

We will have to wait and see if RF confirms these conditions.

If so, we can all shake hands, if not... more negotiations I guess.

We would also like to thank all sides for their temporary cease-fires during this critical interval.

We are accepting due to telegram from RF government suing for peace.
We wish to thank our allies for their support.

We are accepting due to telegram from RF government suing for peace.

"ORDER! ORDER! THIS is not a forum for revealing the private messages sent between governments. Although we understand the bitter atmosphere we ask that negotiations be made in a business-like fashion."

WE await RF's confirmation of the new conditions, if this is present then we can implement the peace!

The RevivedRomanEmpire requests permission to speak.

You are recognized, speak...

OOC: Since it appears that Russian Forces is no longer on, please keep the temporary truce until it responds. I suspect that it will agree with the proposal and that a referendum can be held. In that case I also ask that the results of the referrendum be realistic. I doubt that RF-communists would win due to the invasion, but please don't ignore completely the urges for Ukraninan unification. For now, sleep I guess... I will be logging off very soon, unless RF shows up. If that is the case, good luck for you all.

Esamopia recognizes the acceptance of West Ukraine's offer, but since they have added new conditions:

1. International Observors.
2. Keeping troops on the ground (but not fighting) until referendum is complete.

We will have to wait and see if RF confirms these conditions.

If so, we can all shake hands, if not... more negotiations I guess.

We would also like to thank all sides for their temporary cease-fires during this critical interval.

agreed

TheRevivedRomanEmpire supports this peace process and will help all nations involved rebuild. Cause we believe we are all one species.
Our nations detests war. The suffering caused by this conflict has brought tears to the eyes of our leader.
We would like to 545 billion dollars in aid both major belligerents.
We would also like to donate a special technology that can make any land capable of growing fruits and vegetables and grains.
We also donate a new device that can make it rain anytime you want it to.
We also offer a free trade agreeement with all beligerents.
And we finally offer to make this treaty secure for at least 7 years guaranteed.
All we ask is for support for a temple we wish to build in Jerusalem.

well we must organise the parties.

I Support the Ukrainian Communist Party.

http://www.parties-and-elections.de/ukraine.html

The Ukraine Party index is here. Each nation should support a party.

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My Party

We mostly see the Rebels supporting this party.

Ukrainian People's Movement

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BUMP

TheRevivedRomanEmpire supports this peace process and will help all nations involved rebuild. Cause we believe we are all one species.
Our nations detests war. The suffering caused by this conflict has brought tears to the eyes of our leader.
We would like to 545 billion dollars in aid both major belligerents.
We would also like to donate a special technology that can make any land capable of growing fruits and vegetables and grains.
We also donate a new device that can make it rain anytime you want it to.
We also offer a free trade agreeement with all beligerents.
And we finally offer to make this treaty secure for at least 7 years guaranteed.
All we ask is for support for a temple we wish to build in Jerusalem.

The following aspects of your proposal will be ignored by the order of the Minister of Reality:

545 Billion in aid (you don't have 1 Billion so early... so save up your pennies and maybe next time.)
Special Technology: Again, maybe its possible, one day, but not one of the first days of your life!

OOC:
Although I think this is painfuly obvious for me, I'm not sure if anyone else sees all of the references you keep on bringing up. The use of the number 7, for example, or the temple in Jerusalem... not to mention your leader's name... people should put two and two together and take immediate action against this person before he causes an apocalypse... that is all.

We recognize the agreement of both sides regarding the Western Ukraine/RF conflict.

We will now withdraw into a supervisory position, urging both sides to keep their allies away from battle and insuring that free and unfettered elections take place.

We thank the progress that has been made on all sides, and we hope to adjourn these proceedings soon.

Kekkosmaa has not taken part in this conflict, and is willing to send officials to observe the elections, if all involved nations accept it.

We recognize your wish for monitoring the elections and endorse it, pending the approval of West Ukraine and Russian Forces.

We recognize the Soviet Ukranian party, currently endorsed by Russian Forces, as a political party that will take part in the referendum on the future of the West Ukraine.

We await West Ukranian officials to announce what parties will be involved in the referendum (and thereafter the results of the referrendum.)

We ask both the RF and West Ukraine to urge their allies to stand down, as several forces have attacked each other since the declaration of the cease fire agreement. We further ask that this matter be expedited so that we can finally end it.

After election results are revealed, we ask for the evacuation of the West Ukraine (all forces leave West Ukraine) and for a formal peace treaty to be signed between RF and West Ukraine to legitimize the results. As soon as this happens, Esamopian foreign minister can get some sleep and the conflict will finally disappear.

We thank all sides for their cooperation, we will be making OOC reflections regarding the conflict after the peace treaty is signed.

We fear many nations are still plotting an invasion of mother Russia.

Our party shall be the Ukrainian People's Movement.

2 regiments of troops will help peacekeep.

Garrison when this heats up get your forces outa there! But i think it won't.

ooc: How did I miss this... *shoots intelligence chief*

ic: Bonstocknian forces will stand down and leave, but they are somewhat sad taht there was not much of a fight.

Bonstocknian casualties: 45 CV 90s destroyed, 3 JAS 39 Gripens destroyed, 235 Bonstocknian soldiers killed, 678 wounded, 3 missing in action presumed captured. We demand that any prisoners be released.

We are not opposed to the idea of a POW swap.

POW swap will happen once this vote is complete.

OOC: How do we do this vote?

POW swap will happen once this vote is complete.

OOC: How do we do this vote?

RF see your telegrams.

OOC: When is the next RL ukrainian election?

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It is not exactly my place to as a moderator/arbitor to mandate how the referendum will go ahead, as you have seen I have only offered "suggestions" and "advice" in the past, and all I can do is clarify issues and make sure both the West Ukraine and RF agree on them.

If there is serious doubt on how to proceed, please TM and I can think of something, although I believe that this can be easily handled by you...

Good luck in the days ahead.

The government of West Ukraine accepts this offer. But we want international observers in country to ensure RF does nothing tricky with the ballot box.
We also wish all nations defending Ukraine to stay.
We accepted peace with RF before and they rejected it. We fear they may be tricking us.

With elections forth coming we would like to establish diplomatic relations(embassy) and offer engineers to help in rebuilding .
We would be glad to act as observers if you wish.

Bonstock would like to make two demands on the treaty to Russian Forces. If these demands are not met, we will continue hostilities, only Bonstocknian forces are ready in their positions.

The demands are:

1 Sovriegnty of the Crimean Penninsula shall rest with Bonstock, and a demilitarized zone will be created as a buffer zone between Bonstocknian defenders and Russian forces in the area.
a. The demilitarized zone, being 2 kilometers in width, will run along the borders of the Crimean province of Ukraine.
b. The demilitarized zone will not be intruded by heavy equipment of wither sides, as not to provoke incidents.
c. However, neither side will be able to stop civilian traffic across the border without the consent of the other party.
d. Crimean territorial waters will go out 10 kilometers, will rest in Bonsocknian sovreignty, and Russian military ships will not be allowed in this area without Bonstocknian approval.

2 Bonstocknian companies will have the right to operate in Ukraine without interference from Russia.
a. Russian Forces will not be able to tax Bonstocknian assets in Ukraine
b. Bonsotcknian companies will be exempt from tariffs
c. If a Bonstocknian businessman commits a crime on Ukrainian soil, he will be extridited for trial in Bonstocknian courts.

These can be altered. Negotiations will continue.

The United Socialist States of Benghor currently suports the KPU ; Communist Party of Ukraine

How about Benghor i kill you and turn your country into a wasteland. ALoen you are weak and naked and my troops will rip you apart. Let these negotiations continue.

Bonstock would like to make two demands on the treaty to Russian Forces. If these demands are not met, we will continue hostilities, only Bonstocknian forces are ready in their positions.

The demands are:

1 Sovriegnty of the Crimean Penninsula shall rest with Bonstock, and a demilitarized zone will be created as a buffer zone between Bonstocknian defenders and Russian forces in the area.
a. The demilitarized zone, being 2 kilometers in width, will run along the borders of the Crimean province of Ukraine.
b. The demilitarized zone will not be intruded by heavy equipment of wither sides, as not to provoke incidents.
c. However, neither side will be able to stop civilian traffic across the border without the consent of the other party.
d. Crimean territorial waters will go out 10 kilometers, will rest in Bonsocknian sovreignty, and Russian military ships will not be allowed in this area without Bonstocknian approval.

2 Bonstocknian companies will have the right to operate in Ukraine without interference from Russia.
a. Russian Forces will not be able to tax Bonstocknian assets in Ukraine
b. Bonsotcknian companies will be exempt from tariffs
c. If a Bonstocknian businessman commits a crime on Ukrainian soil, he will be extridited for trial in Bonstocknian courts.

These can be altered. Negotiations will continue.

Esamopia must insist that you abide by the armistice, although you were not a party to the negotiations, this agreement was signed by the main belligerents, making any conflict you have now with RF totally illegitimate, furthermore, with the RF/WU conflict largely over, there will be many RF forces available to deal with this situation. With no international support, a completely selfish claim, and RF soldiers no longer engaged in heavy fighting, your defeat will be likely.

Please accept what is going on and embrace peace, I am sure that diplomacy can win again.

Esamopian FM