NationStates Jolt Archive


'Crooze' Tank

20-09-2003, 13:37
A larger tank, that can fire cruise missiles, or Surface to Air missiles from the 50 tubes strategically placed in the front, rear, and on a retractable turret on the tank.

Features:
TankLocks - They retract when the tank is put into firing mode. Each of the "arms" shoots out of a corner of the tank, digs 1 foot into the ground, then latches onto the eartn, to hold the tank in place while enduring the massive firing stress caused by recoil.

Remote Control - You can control the tank by remote control, and it can be a good idea, too! If you want to ram into a building, you obviously don't want to be in there to potentially get hurt! So, we have a remote control unit, complete with video monitor. It works from up to two miles away.

PropLaunch - To help the missile ignite, we compress a mixture of 5% propane, 95% oxygen into a small compressed air tank in the tank, which then releases into the tube when the missile ignites, and pushes it up out of the tube, while having the missile ignite faster. The propane, is released into the tube before the oxygen, and the missile ignites. Why? Well, it also gives the missile a boost when the tube is 'flamed out', so we let the propane soak into the missile as well, so it reaches 2x the takeoff velocity so we have no failures... near us, at least.

Specs:
Length: 23ft
Width: 10.7ft
Missile Tubes: 50
Turret Rotate Speed: 5mph
Power: 2 Hydrogen Powered Stärke Engines
Construction: 6" Thick Steel Armor Plating - 1" Think Super-Heated Steel Frame
Armorment: Self-Destruct, 50 Missile Tubes (Accepts all Cruise & STA/STS Missiles), 2 .50 Caliber Multipurpose Machine/Sniper Rifle On Turrets
Speed: Regular Treads - 30mph :: HoverTreads (Coming Soon) 75mph

How does that look for a missile tank? Too powerful? Too weak? Just right? What should I price it?
20-09-2003, 13:39
2 strong, how long you reasearch it?
Alibakkar
20-09-2003, 13:46
It's more like MLRS than a tank.

BTW, did you get the idea from Starcraft's Siege Tank?
20-09-2003, 13:48
An MLRS armed with 50 cruise missiles? :?
20-09-2003, 13:52
I believe that "tank" looks like:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/frog-7-image12.gif
20-09-2003, 15:11
It's more like MLRS than a tank.
except that MLRS doesnt have much armor...that is the difference between mobile artillery and tanks.
20-09-2003, 17:14
No, I was just merely stating it as an idea.

And, it's in regular armored tank form, same basic shape, ect, just a tad bit bigger. Missile tubes are built into the tank itself, and a hatch needs to open on each tube for it to fire, even on the turret, which holds more than one missile.
20-09-2003, 17:16
it wouldnt fit
20-09-2003, 17:50
What do you mean... "It wouldn't fit?". 25 missiles on the turret, and 25 in the tank itself, that are launched straight up into the air. 10 in front, 15 in rear, 20 STA/STS on the turret, and 5 cruise missiles on the top of the turret.
20-09-2003, 17:51
the size of them is to big for a tank
20-09-2003, 17:52
Ah, no cruise missiles then. Just 50 STA/STS missiles.
20-09-2003, 17:55
Looks like youd be talking about a land ship
20-09-2003, 17:56
Pretty much. 50 missiles, 25 on turret, 25 in the tank. 30mph max right now... I think it's pretty decent :) It'd sure be better than bringing in 50 mortarmen to handle a situation!
20-09-2003, 17:58
Whats the armor on it, cause it its anything lower than about 1200mm than your still gonna be hit my a ton of anti-tank weapons that will still be very effective.
20-09-2003, 18:00
It's 6" thick heat-treated steel armor, with a 1" titanium frame. It's only meant for support, not front-line. I mean, it has almost no close-range defenses...
Daistallia
20-09-2003, 18:33
Hmmm... 50 cruise missiles alone would be a minimum of two or three times the listed violume of your tank... (figuring a .5 meter diameter 3 plus meter length missile).
50 SAMs or tactical missiles is still way too many.
20-09-2003, 22:19
I'm not talking large missiles here, the size of an AIM-7 or AIM-9, or a mortar. Nothing huge. I forgot cruise missiles were the giant ones :P
Carpage
20-09-2003, 22:47
Even with heavy armor, all of these massive land vehicles are sitting ducks to a good airstrike, especially with the smaller missiles you suggest.

Do the math... it would be far, far cheap and just as effective to send 50 dudes out there on motorcycles that can't be locked onto and give them a bazooka each.

Nice idea, but these are like the vehicles in anime that get blown up until the hero can come save the day. They are the technological equivalent of the ensign that always got killed when he accompanied Kirk, Spock and O'Brian on away missions.
Daistallia
21-09-2003, 03:28
An AIM-7 type missile would take up a minimum of 1 cubic meter storage space. The AIM-7 is over 3 meters long with a large wing span. Check the stats: http://www.novia.net/~tomcat/AIM-7.html.
Your vehicle would have an interior volume of less than 60 cubic meters. (being roughly 3m x 7m being your listed stats, 3 meters height being assumed). Powerplant, suspension (especially for those *hover treads* whatever those are supposed to be, you can count on it taking up lots of space), crew space, and other systems will eat up volume.
And we have yet to get to weight issues.


Check out the ADATS
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/adats.htm
This is the real life version of what you are claiming and it carries 8 AA/AT missiles in external launch tubes. Also note the ADATS is not a tank.

A realistic number of larger tactical missiles would be 6 to 12. With smaller ATGMs (TOWs) you could maybe have 25 in storage, but 4 launchers would be reasonable, and remember ATGMs are LOS weapons with a range of 2 to 5 km.
Confused States
21-09-2003, 03:31
Major GODMOD for a two day old country
21-09-2003, 15:37
Dude, I'm not saying I own it! I'm saying it's a future idea, if you n00bs would READ!